day, ignore benghazi, nsa, and he goes on and on. bill: no insurance talk for me, just drumsticks, and i will be happy. martha: turkey talk, good stuff, right? happy thg. "happening now" starts right now. jenna: big question about getting to your thanksgiving table, and that's where we start today. we begin with a fox news alert on the weather and storm warnings in washington now in effect as a dangerous weather system works across the country causing a travel nightmare as millions hit the road for it's. you have parts of kentucky expecting up to 6 inches of snow, some areas of virginia are already starting to see a wintry mix with ice covering the roads. very dangerous. plus, flooding concerns in georgia. so we have a little bit of everything. we're tracking the storm as it heads east directly towards some of our biggest airports nationwide, and that's where the issue, isn't it, maria?

meteorologist maria molina has the latest. >> reporter: good to see you, and and you're absolutely right, travel such a big impact out here x. it is going to be quite dangerous. you mentioned ice, snow and, of course, flooding a concern out here all with this storm system. but now we're also concerned with possible tornadoes. we did have a tornado confirmed in the past hour across parts of the florida panhandle, and we actually have a new tornado warning that we do want to bring to you, and that's right now for bay county and calhoun county. this is in the panhandle of florida. again, bay county and calhoun county, you are under a tornado warning until 15 minutes past the hour. what that means is that there could be currently a tornado on the ground, so you need to seek shelter immediately. again, bay county and calhoun county. now, there's also a tornado watch across parts of the florida panhandle including panama city until 5 p.m. eastern because that threat for tornadoes continues in place throughout the afternoon hours ors -- hours.

otherwise threat for severe weather including damaging winds and also tornadoes still in effect across central florida, georgia and the carolinas as the storm system continues to ramp up and head northward. and this storm system is very widespread. we're already seeing a little bit of show coming down across portions of pennsylvania and the center of it still across parts of southeast where it is producing very heavy rain in georgia and tennessee. and the timing on this storm system, so through this evening we're still expecting it to be in place across parts of the southeast with heavy rain, some of the higher elevations of the central appalachias and southern appalachias are going to see that wintry mix, and by tomorrow, jenna, and during the overnight hours tonight, that's when we're going to be seeing the worst of the conditions across the northeast. we could see gusts to 50 or even 60 miles per hour, very heavy rain and as much as 6 to even 12 inches of snow in interior

areas, so pennsylvania, ohio and upstate new york. all kinds of impacts with this storm. jenna: we'll be watching it closely, maria. thank you. and right now today's top headlines and brand new stories you'll see here first. jon: new reports that information you give to the irs might not be safe from hackers. the shocking details on that coming up. plus, italian prosecutors want amanda knox back behind bars, this after she was set free when her conviction was overturned for killing her british roommate. and a sad shake-up on family guy leaves fans in a fury after man's best friend gets killed off. those stories and more, and it's all "happening now." ♪ ♪ jenna: but first today, the white house going on the offensive, pushing back against dismal press coverage of the obamacare l rollout by targeting local media in key states. have you seen that yet?

hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee. jon: and i'm jon scott. "happening now," according to politico the new local media strategy focuses on those states, 24 of them or so, that have declined federal money to expand medicaid. a decision the administration says leaves more than five million people caught in the middle, ineligible for medicaid because they earn too much and ineligible for subsidies to buy private insurance because they earn too little. we have a staff writer for the hill who joins us now. so the white house is sending its people out to try to make good headlines, positive press in smaller markets. >> that's exactly right. and they're doing this because the press coverage from the national media has been so brutal over the last two months. we know that the insurance exchanges debuted with serious technical problems on october 1st, and those have continued into this week. in fact, healthcare.gov, the federal enrollment web site for obamacare, experienced an

unscheduled outage yesterday, only days before the november 30th deadline that the administration said it would have the web site fixed by. so i think that their strategy is to go into these local communities and hope that smaller papers, local papers will tell individual stories of people being helped by the affordable care act and help kind of fend off this more negative narrative coming from the national press. jon: but it's a little backward, isn't it? or there's a bit of a catch 22 here? they're going to these states to try to get people to sign up for, you know, to sign up on healthcare.gov, and the web site doesn't work very well. >> that's right. so the administration on the one hand is trying to score political points by eye lighting the republican governors that have chosen not to expand medicaid which is the joint federal and state program for poorer people to get health insurance. but on these exchange decisions, many of these states chose not to create their own marketplaces, and so they're being served by healthcare.gov which, as i said, is still

experiencing serious problems. so this is a catch 22 for the white house. they are going to be trying to get people to visit that web site, but unless it's fixed very soon, that strategy is going to backfire. jon: and let's be clear, i mean, there's a very blatant political element to this if he's, in fact, going after republican governors in those 24 states that are using the federal health care web site. >> that's right. i think the white house knows that at this point it needs some political victories in order to build momentum for the rest of this enrollment period for obamacare which is crucial for the law's future. it lasts until march, and the white house is hoping that in these individual states it can maybe boost its poll numbers in order to allow people to continue signing up and having confidence in the administration and in president obama. so we'll have to see what happens, whether that's successful still depends on how many people actually enroll in coverage under obamacare. those numbers have been low so

far. the white house can hope that they ramp up over the next couple of months but, again, that's going to rely on the web site being fixed, and we haven't seen proof of that yet. jon: so people like, well, readers of the times and democrat of orange burg, south carolina, for instance, they can expect to be reading more positive stories about obamacare because these things are being pitched to smaller markets, individual papers? >> that's absolutely right. the white house has reached out to journal toists at the local level -- journalists at the local level in order to see them cover obamacare from a different angle, not from this wider national narrative of the law's roll outgoing so poorly, but they're hoping to underscore individual events, individual families that are signing up for coverage and hoping that'll eventually lead everyone to sign up for coverage. jon: all right, elise, from "the hill" newspaper covering washington, good information there. thank you. >> thank you, jon. jenna: in the meantime, after tribal leaders across

afghanistan approved a new security pact keeping u.s. troops there past the 2014 withdrawal deadline, afghan president hamid karzai is refusing to sign it. now in a snub for leaders on both sides, karzai is making last minute demands that could put the whole deal in jeopardy. our national security correspondent be jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon with more, and it's really becoming a very big story, jennifer. what does president karzai want, why is he doing this? >> reporter: well, jenna, in a word, to remain relevant. april is when he is slated to step down. he also wants to extract a few more concessions from the u.s. he wants the u.s. to release taliban prisoners from began a tan mow may, bealso probably wants more money from the u.s., and he wants the u.s. to stop entering afghan homes at night even in pursuit of terrorists. >> translator: we will fix the agreement and also continue our negotiations on it with america. >> reporter: now, the u.s. doesn't think that the agreement needs fixing.

karzai signed off on the agreement with secretary of state john kerry a month ago. in the last 24 hours, karzai snubbed not only the council of elders which he hand picked and invited to kabul to debate the deal which, again, he had already agreed to, but he also rebuffed national security adviser susan rice who was in kabul yesterday. rice was clearly perturbed when she left the meeting and said there would be no more negotiations. according to a white house statement, quote: >> r eporter: and no aid that the afghan government needs to keep its security force from collapsing, jenna. jenna: what about the impact on our troops? >> reporter: from all account cans, those who have met karzai recently say he is concerned about his legacy, he does not

want to go down in afghan history as an american stooge, but in terms of the troops, the impact is going to be almost immediate. it mean that is the zero-troop option is now back on the table. that would mean that the u.s. could not use afghan bases to to fly drones or target terrorists in pakistan. it also means that it is more likely that afghan security forces will crumble, and afghanistan will return to taliban rule. so a lot ott stake in terms of -- at stake in terms of the failure to reach agreement. this is exactly what happened in iraq at the end of the war there, no status of forces agreement, and no u.s. troops were allowed to stay. jenna: more on the story as we get it, jennifer. thank you. jon: you might recall the story of the motivational speaker who went to prison after three people died at his sweat lodge retreat. now one of the family members is extremely angry after that speaker got out of jail. and the iran nuke debate goes on after a framework deal is signed. how it's similar to another deal

we made with the now-nuclear-armed north korea. ♪ ♪

jon: right now a look at some crime stories we have been following. prosecutors in italy making their case against amanda knox during her retrial on murder charges. later today they're expected to ask for a life sentence for the former exchange student. knox, whose original conviction was overturned, did not return to italy for this retrial. she's living in the seattle area. family members of one victim of the sweat lodge deaths in arizona are not happy after the self-help author convicted in the deaths of three people says he wishes he could change what happened and continues to live with the anguish every day. and seven people shot and wounded in oakland after gunfire rang out at a public park. now police are on the hunt for

the suspects. jenna: well, harsh criticism still coming over this weekend's framework deal to curb iran's nuclear program. some lawmakers and u.s. allies calling this deal a historic mistake as concerns grow that it may turn out to be nothing more than words on paper if tehran does not back what it says. charles krauthammer was on "special report" last night, he says it's worst -- worse than europe's appeasement of the nazis. >> what's going to happen is the enriched uranium is going to be turned into an ox side so it's inoperative. that's chemically reversible which means iran holds on to its 20% uranium and can turn it into active stuff anytime it wants. this is a sham from beginning to end, it's the worst deal since munich. jenna: strong words there. our next guest was the chief negotiator when the u.s. held similar talks with north korea. the north, as you know, defied

the deal. they signed over nuclear arms, they now have nuclear weapons. the dean of the school of international studies at the university of denver, and that's where he began his career mowing lawns. of nice to have you with us. >> thank you. jenna: a lot of folks are making the comparison to north korea, but few of them sat there during these negotiations. what do you think of those comparisons? are we seeing the same thing here with iran? >> well, i think the structure of the two deals are very different. first of all, as off as the north koreans -- as often as the north koreans did not tell the truth, the one thing they did not lie about was the fact that they wanted a nuclear bomb. and so by the time i came along, they already had enough plutonium -- that is the material that you get out of a reactor as opposed to enriched uranium which is another process -- they already had

enough plutonium for several bombs. so our problem was to get them to reverse themselves in wanting a bomb and then, secondly, in trying to shut down their facilities and thirdly -- and we never got to thirdly -- them giving back the material that they had already produced. so it was a very different kind of deal. and we didn't so much as give them sanctions relief, we just tried to work a you do this and we'll do that. and finally when they wouldn't give us any verification worthy of the name, we simply stopped providing any kind of support to them, and the process ended. jenna: never nevertheless, we obviously see that north korea defied the framework of that agreement, does have nuclear weapons. so what would you do differently looking back on that so many years ago and seeing this line of negotiations? what causes you concern? >> well, what we were doing then too was we were getting a lot of criticism in the region especially in south korea, and that's our real partner and ally this the region.

in the region. so it was difficult to show the south korean public that we were serious about following and trying these negotiations. at the end of the day, as you say, north korea has its nuclear weapons, continues to be very proud of it. but no one at least is blaming us for not trying. so i think it was kind of the right approach. now, with respect to this iran situation, you know, as much as people have said sanctions have worked, well, they've worked in some respects. i think thai certainly helped bring the iranians to the table for what that's worth, but i'm not sure sanctions will really bring them to their knees. i'm not sure it's really of a kind of quality that we could really press them can and get them to give up their nuclear program. jenna: so are you, are you of the line of thought that no matter what we do, iran will pursue nuclear weapons and we'll get -- and will get them ask we just need to deal with it?

>> well, no, i think it's a little more complicated. i think with iran you have some people who are interested in joining the rest of the world and many people there who are not. in north korea no one seemed particularly interested in joining the rest of the world. so i think we're trying to work on that factor. i think even more important than those geneva talks over the weekend were the kind of secret bilateral discussions we're having where we put everything on the table with the iranians. because, you know, it's not just their interest in a bomb, it's also their interest in terrorism and supporting bashar al assad in syria, to we have a lot of issues. and so the question is whether the iranian leadership, which is of a different view than ahmadinejad, whether this new leadership would be interested in the taking some of these elements that we've given them, showing them to the iranian people and saying, see, we can make a little progress this way and ultimately, step by step, getting away from a bomb. i can understand this is going to be a tough haul, a long haul,

but it's probably the right approach, and, you know, my own view is that we ought to see if we can do this. it's only six months. and right now i agree with the idea that what charles krauthammer said, that this process is very reversible on this enriched uranium. but frankly, that's true, but a lot of things are reversible. so the ultimate question is whether the iranian leadership is interested in being in the rest of the world, or do they want to just be in this isolation making bombs. we'll know soon enough. i mean, this is, this is not a long-term thing. this is six months. jenna: as you point out, and i only have about a minute here, iran is the number one state sponsor of terror, period. >> yes, you've got it. jenna: and that's where the big concern is about them having nuclear weapons which is why we've wanted to prevent that, and now there seems to be a switch where we're not as concerned, apparently, by our actions about them having the capability to do so.

is that a huge mistake on our part? >> well, i think what we're doing is what with we saw in geneva was a negotiation very much dedicated to this issue of nuclear weapons. and by the way, if we allow iran to have a deliverable nuclear weapon, i can assure you other countries in the region will want to have the same. so we cannot allow that. and for that reason, i think force needs to be on the table. and i think the president has made clear it will remain on the table. so that is a big problem. jenna: but force was never used against north korea -- >> no, but there, you know, if you look at a map, you can see why. something like 20 million south koreans live within a few miles of the border. it's not an easy proposition. but i'm just telling you, in iran we need to address the terrorism questions, etc., and that was done in a bilateral, secret negotiation that ran parallel to geneva. jenna: ambassador, it's great to have you back on the program. i'm going to get cut off by the

computer, otherwise i could continue this conversation forever. i hope you'll come back and join us as we continue to move through this topic. thank you very much. >> okay, thank you. jenna: and we'll be right back with more "happening now."

jenna: right now a vietnam veteran is recovering after his heroic actions at the oakland raiders' football game. a woman jumped from the third deck last weekend, and he rushed in to break her fall. the woman is now in critical condition, but the 41-year-old marine -- 61-year-old veteran no doubt saved her life. he has some bruises, but he says he knew the risk. >> you train to make b quick decisions. as she was descending, i just reacted the way i did. regarding my life, because my wife said, you know, you could have died -- jenna: that's true.

donny says he's no hero, he would do it again if he had to. the paramedics had to cut off his prize bo jackson jersey, but now he's the proud owner of sunday's game ball given to him by the raiders for his amazing save. jon: good for him. a top hollywood producer revealing his own life story, and it's right out of a james bond flick. the man behind films like "pretty woman" and "fight club" is i now coming clean about his double life as a secret agent. william la jeunesse live from our west coast newsroom. >> reporter: what a great cover story, jon. you travel the world scouting locations and looking for investors and actors, and along the way you negotiate arms deals and smuggle nuclear materials for your country. an israeli jew born outside tel aviv recruited this 1960 as a spy by shi monoperez, israel's

current president. he was an engaging and entertaining entrepreneur who produced films like "l.a. confidential." now 68 years old, he confirmed what many in hollywood already suspected, that he led this double life. while producing films, he also helped funnel guns to the middle east and illegally helped smuggle nuclear weapons technology to the israeli defense forces. today he apologizes for nothing. >> translator: i should have said [bleep], you know what? i did it for my country, and i'm proud of it. >> reporter: he's now chairman of new regency films. he's worth about $4 billion. at one time he claimed to support apartheid in south africa to obtain nuclear triggers for the israelis. after one of his executives was indicted for espionage, rumors began to circulate that he was a spy. he was out and about two years ago in a book but did not confirm it until now. the vise, however, is that

milchan says that sidney pollack also spied for israel. speak speak tongue. >> translator: sidney was my partner in exports, in aerospace, planes, all kinds of things. with license. he had to decide what he is willing and what he is not. many things he said no. many things he said yes. >> reporter: so it's unclear at this stage if milchan broke any laws in the u.s. and, if so, will the administration pursue charges for illegally obtaining and exporting classified documents or materials jon? but it is literally right out of a movie. jon: it sure is. what a story. william la jeunesse, thanks. jenna: major concerns about the irs and questions about those concerns. the alarming new report pointing to some serious flaws that could expose millions of taxpayers to

online hackers, something we do not want. of we'll be on that story. plus, we're tracking a mess in the making, a massive storm threatening holiday travel plans for millions in a broad section of the country including right here in sweet new york city, jon. looks okay out there right now. jon: looking up towards central park there on sixth avenue. ♪ ♪

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♪ jon: lots ahead for you this hour on "happening now" including a shocking new report raising questions about the irs and how well it is protecting millions of taxpayers from hackers. a live report coming up. plus, a few study pointing out the benefits of exercise even for retirees. why it is never too late to get started. also, an anguished mother takes a step to protest the disappearance of her or son more than or -- her son more than three years ago. jenna: now a fox extreme weather alert, the deadly storm that slammed texas and oklahoma is heading east making it tough for millions hitting the road for the thanksgiving holiday, everyone that's flying from the east coast out west, if you're out west, the weather looks better, but can your family get there? chris hill is a former air traffic controller, so you're well versed on these sorts of situations, chris. what does it look like so far? there's a lot of anticipation about this storm. what does it look like for real on the ground? >> well, there definitely is a lot of anticipation because of

the storm causing so much trouble in dallas on sunday. but so far this morning we aren't seeing too many delays. we are seeing some departure delays out of reagan national and pittsburgh because of deicing, i be right now it's -- but right now it's wait and see. the potential for delays really is there because it's quite a large storm. jenna: what looks to be the gig biggest threat? >> tomorrow afternoon and morning. in the new york metros and washington, d.c. metro airports. they're expecting a lot of rain and quite a bit of wind, so we could see quite a few long delaysbe you're flying too or from those airports. jenna: the country's big, chris, right? we're out here in new york city, i know you're in chicago, but what the impact nationally when there are storms on the east coast, what sort of ripple effect does it have? >> oh, it definitely does have a ripple effect across the rest of the nation. some of the largest hubs are on the east coast, like charlotte, atlanta and the metros.

even if you're not flying to or from those airports, most likely your equipment is going through those airports, so you could definitely see delays even if you're flying into los angeles where thewet's going to be -- weather's going to be beautiful. jenna: it's been wild, some of the stories that have come out from different states. big question or fir a lot of our viewers, do they cancel their trip? try to get on a different flight? what seems to be some of solutions that are available? >> well, this is the busiest travel season of the year, so the options are limited, unfortunately. however, a lot of the airlines do have waiver codes in place, so if you can travel on a day other than today or tomorrow like maybe thursday morning, i know that's not the best time for a lot of people, but thursday really is going to be a great day when it comes to weather, and it also is going to be a good day for travel because not a lot of people do travel. you would really insure you actually would get to your destination a lot easier. jenna: you don't want to miss the stuffing, that's my favorite

part. are you staying put in chicago? is that where you stay for the holiday? >> absolutely. i'm staying here in chicago for the holiday. jenna: all right. well, you have a good one. we appreciate it. chris, thank you. jon: nobody dreams of a white thanksgiving, you know? jenna: that's true. [laughter] it's a different feel. rightfully pointed out, jon. jon: or a wet thanksgiving for a lot of people. [laughter] new concerns about how well the government is protecting your personal information. the obamacare web site taking lots of flak over security. now a new report says the irs might also be leaving taxpayers vulnerable to hackers. diane ma pa say doe from the fox business network is here with details you'll want to know. >> reporter: hi, jon. so a new report from the treasury inspector general for tax administration says the irs hasn't been keeping up with auditors' recommendations on protecting taxpayer information and that's raising concerns about the additional information the agency will store under the affordable care act. now, according to the report at least 8 out of 19 recommended

fixes hadn't been fully implemented despite the irs reporting that they were complete. as a result, the report says the agency failed to do things like properly lock user accounts, update software or scan servers for major vulnerabilities which makes it easier for people to exploit user accounts and steal taxpayer identities. with all eight of those corrective actions, the inspector general's investigation also found the irs didn't audit any of them to insure their implementation, four lacked the right executive approval to close them and three had no documentation at all to support their closure. investigators then broadened their sample size to 69 planned corrective actions and found that only 24 had documentation to fully support being closed. when the right degree of security diligence is not applied to systems, disgruntled insiders or malicious outsiders can exploit security clearances and may gain unauthorized

access. this report is just the latest irs audit to reveal lack of oversight at the agency, raising concerns it may not be equipped to take on new responsibilities including storing taxpayers' sensitive information. the report says that the irs did agree with most of them but may not necessarily address previously closed corrective actions and that implementation of some of those recommendations appears to be contingent on identifying adequate resources. jon, back to you. jon: and under obamacare, the irs is just going to get bigger, right? >> reporter: expanding. jon: diane macedo, thanks. jenna: well, a tiny miracle is getting lots of attention. this baby girl weighed just about one pound at birth: we're going to have an update on her condition now. also some researchers say exercise isn't just for the young. this is just in time for thanksgiving to make all our viewers feel guilty -- no, i mean, to feel better, right, jon? jon: exactly. jenna: there's some new information that could get you moving even if you've never,

ever, ever worked out before. jon's going to have that segment coming up on "happening now."

jon: new next hour, a terrifying explosion just steps away from a group of chirp. the heart -- children. the heartbreaking interview they were giving just before that blast. also, brand new details on a secret operation at guantanamo bay, how the cia turns prisoners into double agents, sending them home as recruits in the war on terror. now we're learning how it works. plus, a las vegas woman on trial for plotting to kill her husband. she takes the stand in her own defense. her stunning admission just ahead. jenna: well, right now a tiny baby fighting for her life in china and really getting a hole lot of -- a whole lot of attention. she weighed just over a pound when she was born three months

ago, so small she could fit in the palm of your hand. her mother had to develop prematurely, and donations have been pouring in for the little girl's medical care. she's reportedly making progress, and her weight is now up to about four pounds. ♪ ♪ jon the doctor is in now with the results of a new study that says it's never too late to start working out. researchers find exercise helps ease the effects of aging even if you don't start until you're in your 60s. dr. kevin campbell is a practicing cardiologist and an assistant professor of medicine at the university of north carolina. we see this all the time, doctor, i mean, some people are just fitness buffs, they work out all the time, some people are not. and if you get into your 60s and you've never worked out, i would think the tendency would be to just kind of continue to be a couch potato. but that could be a very bad thing.

can you explain? >> absolutely. we've known for a long time that exercise is a key player in preventing the bad things that happen when you have high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease. and now this study has shown us that no matter what your age is, if you get in the exercise game, you can reap enormous health benefits, and this is very important. jon: so starting an exercise program when you're in you're 60s, not too late? >> not too late at all. i would say that you need to have a check-up with your doctor and make sure it's safe to exercise, start slowly and then build. one of the big benefits of this exercise in the 60s is actually a prevention of cognitive decline and dementia. also it can help with depression and other things that aging populations face. part of that is because a lot of the exercise is done in groups, and it's very social and fun and engaging. so i think that's another real benefit of this. jon: and the people that were studied, and it was quite a

large study out of britain, the people who were studied enjoyed a three to four times better success, enjoyed three to four times better success as a, quote with, healthy ager. >> exactly. and, you know, they define healthy aging as, you know, less trouble with dementia, less trouble with chronic medical conditions, less hospitalizations. so very important. you know, one of the things that i see as one of the most important things that comes out of this is prevention of beastie. in the -- of obesity. if you exercise, you're going to shed pounds, and obesity-related illness may not be such a rob for you or your friends -- problem for you or your friends. jon: we're not talking about hitting the gym and pumping weights, just getting out for a vigorous walk would be a good place to start, huh? >> exactly. even walking playing 18 holes of golf, doing something that gets

your heart rate up. the cdc here in the u.s. recommends 120 minutes of exercise a week. that's really not that much. that's 10-20 minutes of walking a day. jon: so you're telling us that a good round of golf would be adequate exercise or at least helpful? >> if you hit it as many times as i do and have to chase the ball in the woods, absolutely. jon: all right. [laughter] and leave the cart in the barn. all right. >> exactly. jenna: you know, doc, before we let you go, i have a quick question. >> yes, ma'am. jenna: how do you approach the thanksgiving dinner table? i'm just curious, because you know all the bad stuff that's on there. of do you have a strategy? what's your strategy? >> well, first of all you need to know that one thanksgiving meal can contain 4,000 calories. that's twice what an adult needs for the whole day. what i'm going to do tomorrow or on thursday is i'm going to go to crossfit and do a vigorous exercise plan, then i'm going to take a shower and enjoy a big meal. jenna: and just enjoy all 4,000

calories. >> once a year in moderation, it's okay. jenna: 4,000 calories? it's nice to know you're a crossfitter, doc. we're going to check out those push-ups and see how you're doing, right, jon? jon: that's right. and i'm going to enjoy my thanksgiving meal and not count calories. [laughter] jenna: 4,000 calories. jon: doctor, thank you. and and happy thanksgiving. >> thank you, both. jenna: there's some facts you want to remember is and some you want to fight. i think the 4,000 is one we should just all agree to forget. jon: deal. [laughter] jenna: he's been missing for more than three years, and as police continue to look for leads, his here is demanding answers from the woman she believes is behind the disappearance of the little boy on your screen. his name is kyron horman. we'll have the latest on that story coming up. and a cartoon fan's favorite killed off at least for now. it's a big topic on social media. a lot of anger about this, jon. so we'll have the latest on that

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jenna: well, right now a mother demandg answers and confronting the stepmother she claims is behind the disappearance of her son, kyron horman. you may remember the 7-year-old oregon boy disappeared back in 2007. it was -- 2010. it was a big, big story. he went to school, he never returned home. desiree young and a group of protesters stood outside terri horman's home on saturday when terry's mother called the cops. >> report trespassing and vandalism in my front yard. >> of it's happening right mow? >> yes.

>> then they're carrying signs about our grandson who is missing. jenna: desiree says that will not stop her from finding the truth. >> i did stand out this front of her house and remind her of the reason we're here, and we're going to be here every day. jenna: it's a bad battle again between mother, the biological mother and the stepmother. no arrests were made. the investigation continues to try to find that little boy. ♪ ♪ >> these guns are defective, we're from a gun company. anyway, you know how we like to take things back from you people? we're going to go ahead and take these back. >> that's right. we're from gun co. >> shut up, you're blowing it. >> well, fans of the hit fox series "family guy" are setting twitter on fire after the death of the beloved family dog, brian.

julie banderas joins us now with the fox 411 and brian's prognosis. >> reporter: yes, it is not good. i have to say that the death in the family has fans hoping for a resurrection though. after 12 seasons, the animated series "family guy" on fox said good-bye to their family pet. brian, the family dog who's been a main character on the show since 1999, got hit by a car sunday night. no, there wasn't a fox news alert covering this tragedy, it was all planned by the show's executive producer steve callahan who tells e eye online it was a tough decision. during the episode titled "life of brian," the griffin family said teary good-bye toss the bruised and bloody dog. >> dammit, brian, you can't die. we were going to become wind surfers. i was going to be a little better than you, but we were both going to be good. >> you guys, i think brian's trying to say something.

>> you, you've given me a wonderful life. i love you all. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: oh, no. well, not wasting any time, the family then adopted a new pet named vinnie. the new fast-talking voice voiced by tony cirico of the sopranos, helps comfort the baby who is distraught over the loss. but fans seem to be needing comforting, because it's sparked the hash tag bring back brian on twitter. or even cast members were surprised about the decision to kill off the beloved pet. the ep of the show says not to worry, the fans do not have to worry about the inability to cope with the loss but they can trust choices like these will make the show a continued success. couldn't natural causes have

been the cause of death? it was a hit and run too. jon: yeah. >> so -- jon: i have a feeling they're going to get a cat now. >> reporter: i don't know, maybe they will. jon: just guessing. >> reporter: it was 12 long years. poor brian. jon: rest in peace. julie banderas, thanks. >> reporter: sure. jon: we have this fox news alert out of the united states supreme court, the court has agreed to take up what's called the on by lobby case. you -- hobby lobby case. you might remember that craft store chain objected to being required to cover its employees for birth control because the owners of that particular business are christians. of in their view -- in their view, birth control is about the mounter to child abuse. they should not be forced to provide contraception to their employees. the supreme court agreed to hear their case.

it's going all the way to the supreme court. we will keep you updated as what's called the hobby lobby case on obamacare gets to the nation's highest court. jenna: an interesting development there. also we're tracking a massive storm already affecting millions of americans trying to hit the road for the thanksgiving holiday. we have live fox team coverage up next. plus, some shocking think developments in the trial of a woman accused of plotting to kill her husband. what she said on the stand that has some analysts saying she may have blown her entire defense. our legal panel weighs in this just ahead.

jon: a fox news alert, you might recall it was just about a year and a half ago, june of 2012, when the supreme court ruled that obamacare is constitutional, at least the individual mandate, the part of it that requires you to buy health insurance. well, now the challenges to obamacare are not over. the supreme court has agreed to hear what's called the hobby lobby challenge. on by lobby is a christian-owned

corporation, a chain of craft stores. the owners, devout christians, and they say that the department of health and human services' requirement that they provide contraceptive care to their employees violates their religious beliefs. they say they should not be required to provide that kind of care to their employees. some types of abortive care -- of contraceptive care, i should say, they believe are tantamount to abortions. the supreme court has agreed to hear that case, it likely will be on the calendar coming up in march, and you know that fox will be there to cover it. big developments in our top stories and breaking news this hour. jenna: a big storm before the big getaway, how it could make a mess of your thanksgiving plans even if you're not in the eye of the storm. also, another obamacare

controversy, why your premiums could soon skyrocket. we're going to go in depth on that. and a stunning new report about a secret cia program that turns some gitmo detainees into double agents. details are now being revealed, we're live with that story. it's all "happening now." jon: well, it is a thanksgiving travel nightmare courtesy of mother nature. welcome to a brand new hour of "happening now." jenna: hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee. great to see you. forecasters are warning of a mass i have snowstorm that's moving east, and it could disrupt your holiday plans, the storm system slamming ice into virginia late last night and into the morning. in the meantime, the weather's threatening the busiest travel day of the year tomorrow according to aaa. the thanksgiving travel period is defined as wednesday, november 27th, to sunday, december 1st. the wednesday before thanksgiving will be the busiest single day of travel, more than 43 million americans will

journey 50 miles or more during the thanksgiving weekend. with the average distance traveled by americans over the holiday weekend expected to be more than 600 miles, and all that travel isn't cheap. the median spending is expected to be $465, nearly half of all travelers or 44% plan to shop during the holiday weekend. weekend daily car rental rates will average $50, and hotel rates at aaa lodgings have increased from last year. we have team coverage with maria molina in the weather center and steve centanni at ray began national airport -- reagan national airport. and we're going to begin with steve. >> reporter: hi, jenna. washington national airport okay so far, but there's rain here and more expected, possibly even some snow tomorrow as people head out on the roads and head for their flights on this thanksgiving holiday. they better check ahead, and it may not be smooth sailing for everybody. let's take a look at some pictures from here at national airport. things fairly normal here. the arrivals are delayed, quite

a few of them delayed, some of them canceled. departures are okay for now, but as that domino effect can kicks in, some of those departures may be canceled later on if the planes arriving don't arrive on time. all the result of a huge storm sweeping from the west coast, across the piddle of the country to the east coast that's caused all finds of problems with travel. we have a graphic showing that just today at the nation's airports there have been 318 cancellations of major flights domestically, and that's a total of 2,069 for the week so far as that storm moved its way all the way from california across the country, messing up air travel. so that's where things stand right now. okay at national airport at the moment, but things could obviously get a lot worse. listen. >> worst case scenario would be similar to what we saw in dfw

two days ago where there was roughly a thousand canceled flights and delays. so the suggestion we have is if you're traveling over this holiday season, check early and often. so, you know, basically check to see if your flight is delayed or canceled, and if it's, get in contact with your travel agent or airline to reaccommodate you quickly. >> reporter: and as always, the advice to allow plenty of time, get to the airport early and do check ahead. find out if your flight has been delayed or canceled. pack to you, jenna. jenna: steve, thank you. jon: all right. so with more of what you can expect in those thanksgiving travel nightmare scenarios, meteorologist maria know lean that. >> reporter: hi, jon. that's very good advice. check early, check often to see if your flights are canceled or delayed, and we likely are going to be seeing that number increasing as the storm system continues to move towards the north and east. now, the storm system besides travel delays, besides snow and heavy rain and even strong

winds, we're looking at anotherconcern, and that's tornadoes. we actually had a confirmed tornado earlier today across parts of the panhandle, a tornado watch including panama city because the potential to see more tornadic activity is possible throughout the afternoon. this watch goes into effect until 5 p.m. eastern time, but the threat for severe weather -- not just tornadoes, but even damaging winds this excess of 58 miles an hour -- possible in central florida, parts of georgia and also into the carolinas as the storm continues on its way. now, this storm has widespread precipitation, so while the center is across parts of the southeast, we're already seeing a little bit of snow coming down across parts of upstate new york and even across pennsylvania earlier today. and we're seeing that heavy rain, widespread. carolinas, tennessee and also across the state of georgia. the wind forecasts continue to pick up as the storm does intensify. timing on the worst of the storm, in the southeast today through the evening hours, we're expecting more heavy rain, we're

expecting that wind to continue to pick up, and then the storm heads northward. and as we head into overnight tonight and also into wednesday, that's when we're thinking the worst of the storm will be in place across the northeast. gusts to 50 miles per hour possible along the i-95 corridor, new york city, philadelphia, also the city of boston. that's what you could be looking at along with very heavy rain. then areas farther inland where we're expecting temperatures to be hovering around the freezing mark, that's where we could be looking at significant snowfall, 6 to even 12 inches of snow, and some of the higher elevations could see more snow than that. by thanksgiving day, jon, things look much quieter behind the storm system. it's going to to be on the chilly side and still very breezy in the northeast, otherwise take a look at how much rain, 2, 3, maybe even 4 inches of rain from the carolinas into the i-t -- i-95 corridor in the northeast. jon: and snow as well?

>> reporter: yes. snow is possible where you see that shading in white and also blue, so that's including parts of tennessee, parts of kentucky. of you're looking at more than 3 inches of snow possible, that shading in light blue is at least 6 inches of snow in addition to what some of these areas have already seen. and up here, this is where we're thinking some of the highest accumulations. 67-12 inches -- 6-12 inches of snow, maybe 8 inches -- 18 inches of snow. so this will be watch. jon: wow. all right. sounds like a mess coming. maria, thanks for the heads up. >> reporter: thank you. jenna: new tallout from the nuclear option the senate unleashed just days ago when majority leader harry reid pushed through a rule change to cut the number of votes needed to block a filibuster, and now with the democrats this control there, this does boost the president's power to make some builts, and this new -- appointments, and this now raises some concerns about one

of the most controversial opponents or components of obamacare. you heard a lot about them in the past, these so-called death panels. a controversial name, but something that folks are concerned about. our chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live in washington on this story. mike? >> reporter: well, hi, jenna. with the rules being changed in the senate, commissioners could be con firmed to this independent advisory board with just democratic support. last thursday harry reid changed the rules so presidential nominees could be confirmed with 51 votes instead of 60. in this case the ipab is a 15-member panel, and its role is to slow the growth in medicare spending. one lawmaker who's a medical doctor is worried there'll be very little input from physicians. >> it is an increase in power by the agency and the executive branch. and, honestly, what many of us are concerned about. but then on the doctors' side, the fact that there is so little input from physicians into this board and the fact that the

physicians that are on the board may not be practicing physicians. they are people who are well removed from the active practice of medicine. >> reporter: burgess' concern is that this independent, unelected board targets what doctors are paid, some will stop practicing, and others will stop taking medicare patients. meanwhile, the white house and senator reid's office have not responded to our requests for comment. one official noted the board would not be needed until at least 201. so far the president has not nominated anybody to serve on this advisory board. former vermont governor and dnc chairman howard dean calls the ipab a major problem writing earlier this year, quote: >> r

eporter: dean says he understands there must be control of kohs but says rate setting has a 40-year track record of failure. jenna? jenna: more on this story as we get it, mike. thank you. >> reporter: thank you. jon: well, the president saying at a fundraiser last night that the healthcare.gov web site is, quote, starting to work pretty well now, and insurance companies are now ready to make a big push to get folks to sign up on state exchanges. they want to show that obamacare is not just about politics, it's about business and affordable health care as well. this comes as the l.a. times highlights the benefits, too, with headlines like the obama success stories you have not been hearing about. joining us now, ellison barber, writer for the washington freebie con. the interesting thing is you're not going to hear a lot about, quote-unquote, obamacare as these companies make this push. >> right. they seem to be avoiding it entirely, and i think that is an interesting move. but if you look at poll numbers of the president and how obamacare is playing out, that's really more of a smart move on

their part because people are hesitant, they've seen this rollout not going well, and they're not responding all that great to it. this is a business side of things, we're insurance companies, and here's a new plan rather than tying it to the political aspect. so i think they're trying to create kind of two different veins between the business aspect and insurance policies and the politics side. jon: and we tend to forget that there is going to be a business, you know, under obamacare. i mean, these private insurance companies, the united health cares, the aetnas, the blue cross, blue shield, they are going to be, you know, handling patients and presumably making money. >> right. and they invested billions of dollars to restructure their insurance programs in order to implement the affordable care act. so really is -- sign-up is in their best benefit for a number of reasons. they've put a lot of money and effort into getting this up, but also in terms if the exchanges were to fail even though there are some safety nets with the risk corridors, at some point

that burden could fall to them. so they're very aware of the fact that they need healthy people in the exchanges so they don't have the burden of paying out these benefits to sick people without having enough healthy, viable people paying into the exchanges. jon: so last hour we had the story of how the white house is turning to local media, smaller markets to try to get positive stories out there about obamacare. this is going to be a push from business who are going to be telling, you know, people to sign up, go out and get your insurance policy, but they're not going to be calling it obamacare. >> right. they seem to be really trying to push -- change the narrative in an interesting way, and it seems it is taking it there a completely different strand or a different route. and so we'll see how well that works. i do think you have to look at the fact that in most of these states people that aren't eligible for subsidies, 1.5 million people and the number jumps up to 4.4 million, their still seeing sticker shock. no matter how many ads you have, that's not going to do much, because you still have people

who are having sticker shock. jon: but in order for this thing to work, the web site has to work. is it? >> so far not. and i think today they said they didn't think it was going to be out by december 1st. that was an arbitrary deadline set by the administration probably in a bit of haste, and a lot of people are looking at it to make sure the web site is up and rolling by the end of this month. jon: and then we get to this news that just broke that hobby lobby is going, you know, that appeal that they have made to the courts regarding contraceptive care, whether a christian-owned business should be required to provide contraception and some types of contraception the owners of the business believe are, you know, about the mount to abortion and against their religious beliefs. do they have to be -- are they required to submit to that under obamacare? supreme court has now agreed to take that case. >> oh, wow. that's one of the most interesting things i think, too, about the problems we see with

the affordable care act is supporters have a tendency to say, oh, that's just one problem, but even with that as latest example be, the problems are compounding over time and adding up to this long list where it doesn't matter if it was just the web site, because each time there's another issue they have to deal with, and they're compounding over time to make a huge problem. jon: ellison basher is with the washington free beacon. thank you. >> thank you. jenna: well, some bombshell new information about a secret government program that sounds like it's straight out of a hit tv show. maybe that tv show homeland, i'm sure you could choose one or another. the cia reportedly recruiting prisoners out of bit mow and turning them into -- gitmo and turning them into double agents. plus, the latest from the scene of a deadly bombing near a major transportation hub. [inaudible conversations] [speaking in native tongue] hey kevin...still eating chalk for heartburn? yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome.

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♪ ♪ jenna: we have some international stories making headlines today as a car bomb rocks a bus station in syria. it happened right near a group of kids as they scramble away. the attack killed 15 people including two children, but the death toll could rise because some of the more than 30 people wounded are now in critical condition. the bus station near damascus is a major hub for transportation in and out of the capital. now we're going to move you to bangladesh where political protests turned deadly. opposition groups protested the government's plans to hold elections in january. the opposition is fearing that the current prime minister will rig the elections, and so to they're demanding she step down so a neutral caretaker can oversee the polls. also, thousands of students in the ukraine joining massive protests against the government's change in plans concerning the european union. the government announcing last

week it was stopping preparations for signing the political and trade agreement with the e. u., this after russia imposed trade restrictions and threatened there would be more to come. ukraine's decision is seen as a big victory for russia, but the protesters are calling on the president to change his mind and sign the e.u. agreement at the summit on friday. jon: we are getting brand new and stunning information about a secret cia program organized after the 9/11 terror attacks. reportedly, this program carried out in a secret facility at the guantanamo bay detention center. the cia turning some of the prisoners there into double agents for the u.s. government, then sending them back to their home countries as recruits in the war on terror. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington. she has that story for us. catherine? >> reporter: well, thank you, jon. we have independently confirmed the existence of a program first reported by the associated press that the cia used to turn some

guantanamo detainees into double agents immediately after 9/11 with mixed results. one source familiar with the program said the bush administration never provided hard numbers on the detainees on guantanamo which fox has visited more than any other tv network because some prisoners were part of the cia program and left the camps under the radar. the ap today is posting this satellite image reportedly showing where the cia ran its operation from a small facility a few hundred yards from the main administrative offices. this is part of the base that is cut off from the traditional detention camps. in 2003 when the program was up and running, the number of detainees at guantanamo was nearly 750 prisoners. it appears the cia program was known to only a select few what's called highly compartmentalized in the intelligence world with one lawmaker telling fox he was not read in on the details, but at the same time, he was not surprised either. >> if you go back to the critics in the days following 9/11,

really almost the buzz word was we have to start thinking outside the box. this was an asymmetrical war. >> reporter: cia is not commenting today on the program, nor the number of detainees who agreed to cooperate, but two sources told fox news the number was very small, less than a dozen. one analyst said today there was skepticism at the time. the cia program could be effective. >> my sources have said that some of the decisions to turn some of these detainees were controversial, that, for example, military intelligence officials did not find the prospects of using them as double agents to be all that promising while other intelligence officials did find them to be useful. >> reporter: the number of detainees who are confirmed or suspected of returning to terrorism is about 28%, nearly one in three, and what's not publicly known today is whether any of these detainees were released as part of in this cia program. jon. jon: thank you very much. jenna: iran staging protests

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jenna: the impact of our framework nucr deal with iran continues to reck they around the world -- ricochet around the world. saudi arabia, for example, just announced a new defense doctrine focused on countering iranian influence in the middle east. the saudis, like the israelis, are openly questioning the wisdom of the united states as well as their partnership with washington. our next guest says this latest chapter in america's foreign policy simply part of a much bigger story. watter russell mead writes in this: increasingly, we see key actors, pote allies and

adversaries of the united states, beginning to act as if the united states is losing the the interest and the capacity to act in their regions. worse, we see signs that with the noblest of intentions the obama administration is in a kind of headlong retreat from the kind of global engagement that, in our view, offers the best hope for peace. joining me now, the professor of humanities and editor at large for the american interest which is where i read his blog online on a regular basis. walter, it's nice to have you back with us. >> good to be here. jenna: so what you really point out in your latest essay is that there's the deal with iran and the broader policy, and we have to be careful about making one or the other too big of a deal, meaning saying that this one deal with iran is our approach to the entire region. can you explain why that's important for us now? >> yeah. a lot of the professional diplomats who work on these things get very, you know, locked into one agreement, one treaty, so they want to think

about the nuclear deal in isolation from everything else. i think, you know, and if you do that, you can make an argument that it's a good idea. but if you look at what's going on in the region, we've seen iran basically with russia's help defy the united states, turn assad a couple of years ago looked like he was going to lose the civil war, he's now solidified his position. we look like we're okay with that. iran is base -- has basically been able to extend a kind of control. lebanon, iraq, syria, the whole per fill crescent, in a sense, is coming under iranian control. when people like the saudis look at this, they go ballistic. this looks to them like an existential threat to their security. jenna: the obama administration has talked about adepress withive diplomacy. the president just made a statement last night saying this is what i promised, i was going to talk to iran, and this is what we're doing.

we are engaging. you're saying that they're not. >> well, again, what i'm saying is they're engaging on a very limited context, the nuclear issue. they're not engaging with what people in the region and actually what the iranians themselves see as the big point which is that iranian influence is kind of spreading almost unchecked. across the fertile yes, sir sip. -- yes, sir sent. -- crescent. jenna: why do you think we're missing that? >> partly because it's unplease sent and also, again, things like chemical weapons and nuclear weapons for president obama seem in some ways more important and compelling than things like the regional balance of power as a reason for person engagement. jenna: one of the things that you write is that this may end up making war more rather than less likely. why do you believe that? that really brings it home to all of us. >> well, again, i certainly don't think it's the president's

intention, but if you look, for example, at just how unhappy the israelis and t saudis are, it may seem unthinkable to a lot of people, but they could decide they might work together to try to knock iran back. jenna: and you wouldn't be surprised at that. >> well, you know, when people talk about why israel can't achieve much in a strike with iran, one of the main reasons is the distance. if israel had access even more a very short term to bases in saudi arabia that were much closer to iran, the distance wouldn't be such a problem. the calculation might change. jenna: a quick p final thought from you because you say openly in your essay that you're reserving judgment on all of this as we learn more over the next several weeks, but one of the things you talk about in a broader perspective is global powers trying to rearrange themselves into a new global world order. quickly, can you just give us a taste about what you're watching heresome. >> well, russia, china and iran are none of them like the way the united states organized eurasia, europe and asia, at the end of the cold war.

they've all been looking for opportunities to change that. russia has just been able to keep ukraine from joining the european union's association agreement, iran, as i say, has defied the u.s. with russia's help in syria. and china has proclaimed this new air defense zone reaching into disputed waters with japan. so what we're seeing is a kind of a concerted pushback by these three countries. i think we have to watch it carefully to see whether, in fact, this is the opening of a new moment in international history. jenna: very interesting. walter, it's great to have you, as always. >> thanks. good to be here. jenna: thank you very much. jon? jon: well, a few bay area guys show the government that a working health care web site is actually possible. plus, those pesky insurance premiums all adding to obamacare's problems. and more live team coverage of how mother nature could get in the way of your thanksgiving holiday plans. ooh, look at that.

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islands fall into the air defense identification zone were essentially airspace it controls. japan also claims those islands and that it stays just essentially weigh in on the japanese by saying a couple of b-52 flying over those islands last night in an operation that called "operation quarrel lightning." the u.s. will ignore any request for the chinese to identify aircraft flying in that zone. anything the government can do, they can do better. three bay area men create a website that actually works and it is easy to use. already more than 1500 customers have signed up. live with details on how it works. >> one of the complaints is having to go through half a dozen steps, sometimes more,

just to window shop and compare insurance plans and prices. three young programmers came up with an easy fix at least for that problem. while president obama has been doing damage control over the rocky rollout of healthcare.gov, two of the tech buddies helped launch the guide allowing users quickly compare health insurance plans. >> where a comment to healthcare.gov. will allow you to explore your options without going through pain of the sign-up process. reporter: is a user-friendly interface. >> and those quick steps i have gone from knowing nothing about my options to know exactly which plans exist. what i can get for them and what the premiums are for exactly my family. reporter: from their users can enroll at healthcare.gov. tens of thousands have clicked

on the sign-up online tab. there is no advertising and these guys are not making money. for them it is a public service. >> i decided i wanted to focus on health care in general and really have the biggest impact on society i could possibly have, and this is a great outlet for that. >> a couple of glitches are being ironed out. unlike a lot of people, it gives big props to the federal website and to the contractors who did all the legwork to make it public. back to you, john. jon: do they have a and human services number or website? reporter: i am sure they do. jon: thank you. jenna: now one of the biggest controversies of obamacare. forcing folks to get insurance plans that meet the new standard causing millions of americans to lose their plans. some could pay higher premiums for new plans.

questions remain whether it is worth it at the end of it all if more americans have access to health care even if it is not particularly the plans they want. senior vice president for senior initiatives, he was a senior advisor to the president of the foundation as well and currently at this present time. that is one of the big questions about whether it is worth it if they get coverage even if it is not necessarily the coverage they like. how do we look at questions like that, what are the cost benefits to this rollout? >> before looking right, it makes big changes in the market for people who buy insurance on their own. when people go out and buy their own coverage now i have pre-existing conditions, like me to be denied coverage entirely by insurance companies or maybe pay more if they are sick or older. the laudably establishes new rules not market. it requires insurers to take

everyone. premiums will go up for some, many of them have better coverage is as a result but it gives people help, tax credits to low and middle income people. in the end, most people will end up paying less. jenna: they are low in cost for consumers, what are the tax credits doing for the overall cost of health coverage in general, is it helping? >> the tax credits for what people pay us what they really care about, it will certainly help. families with incomes up to $94,000 per year will be eligible for this help. the cost is actually lower than expected because the premiums came in lower than expected because of competition in the market. jenna: if there is still sticker

shock, what do the next few years look like? >> the big thing we have to look out for is controlling the cost of health care. the affordable care act did some things to bring the cost of health care under control but that is a problem he will keep returning over and over again. jenna: your work a lot in that area as well. what is something that would help control the cause of health care in this country? would it be something to add or take away? of those costs continue to go up, to still be a problem for some many families may look calm assurance they have. >> we still have a big discriminate in this country about what is right where to control health care costs. on the one hand people left of center ever more government regulation, relation premium, of what hospitals and doctors can charge, more conservatives tend to favor market competition. in fact before will care act is

a very conservative approach. increases competition among insurers for the first time they have to compete for business rather than try to keep premiums low by cherry picking and attracting healthy people keeping out sick people. jenna: one of the reasons it has to be kept up. a lot of focus on that as well. thank you. >> thank you, my pleasure. jon: las vegas woman on trial for hiring relatives to kill her husband admits on the stand she wanted him dead. did she just blow her until defense? our legal panel weighs in next. >> we are inside and that is outside. lose the hood, tell them what is coming up. >> here to talk about what we

should do if the obamacare website is not working in four days. ego and a good friend of ours, we will go nameless right now with our special guest. we will see you at the top of the hour.

jon: "happening now." closing arguments in the case for las vegas woman ordering a hit on her husband. charged with plotting to kill robert in a botched drive-by shooting last november. press feeders say she listed her brother and son to orchestrate the killing. they say she did it because she was after her soon-to-be ex-husband insurance money. during her testimony, she denied all that, but admitted she wanted him gone because she claimed he was abusive toward her. >> i just wanted it to be done.

i wish she was dead. i walked out the door we ha. jon: lets talk about with a a criminal defense attorney. a former prosecutor. the only witness in this case for the defense was the accused herself, i am not sure of too many cases i have heard of where that has been the only defense of the attorneys put on. what do you think about that move? >> in this case the lawyer probably felt it was necessary to tell her side of the story. to explain even though she wanted him dead, she did not ask for him to be killed. somebody should want somebody dead or even be happy after the murder. it does not mean they were

involved in it. in this case if they didn't have any other witnesses, the defendant was all they could call. in this case that may have been all that had left in order to save the defense. jon: her attorney got up and said the prosecution had not proved its case and that has to be done beyond a reasonable doubt, but sounds like they had some pretty good evidence, the insurance money, the presence of her son and her brother, who just happens to be an ex-convict seen near the shooting scene, an awful lot of evidence. >> it started with the minivan. the victim remembered the vehicle was a gold minivan. thewe have a video from the gas station with the perpetrators in it, and you have the bombshell in my opinion which is a text from the brother to the

defendant saying i love it when a plan comes together. that is conspiracy 101, a plan comes together. she is right, hypothetically but it gets too fancy and technical. oh, yes, may have wanted him dead but did not really do anything. it reminds you of the odd couple saying i'm going to kill you, felix and the arrest him for murder. it is all a joke. but i think it is a strong case. jon: back to that bit we played in court, her attorney was essentially saying you guys had this fight, says i grabbed my pursperson walked out the door. says was there a firearm in that purse? suggesting she could have killed him some other time if she wanted to. but if she did that, she would not be getting the insurance money, now would she? >> no. if she is involved in the murder

of her husband, she would not be getting any insurance money except if she acted in self-defense it is a justified killing and she may be entitled to this insurance. if she was acting in self-defense should end up with life insurance money to justify by a jury. i don't know if that is the right point for the right conclusion to draw. i think the point was if she really wanted him dead, she would have done it herself. jon: do juries like to hear from the defendant? did she help her case? >> as we know, the juries want to hear from the defendant but at the same time it is not always fair because this person has the biggest motivation in the realm not to be truthful soo it really brings up with the cooperation and other objective evidence is. just being somewhat competitive. with the text saying the plan has come together and her admitting that.

as for self-defense, that is a good point to raise but too much attenuation. it has to be right at the time when the violence perpetrated against the victim. jon: thank you both. >> thank you bit jenna: afghanistan presents making last-minute demands pushing a security deal to the brink of collapse while the details on that coming up. could online gambling put the odds in atlantic city's favor? rick leventhal is there. >> the casinos took me hope so on a cold, wet, rainy day like this one. you know longer had to travel to atlantic city to gamble legally in new jersey. the launch of online gaming coming up. (announcer) scottrade knows our clients trade

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jenna: atlantic city making a gamble online with a venture for the new jersey gaming industry since it first opened its casino back in 1978. trying to boost the casino industry with online gambling. seems a little counterintuitive, but rick leventhal's live with this. >> today new jersey becomes the first state in america to legalize online gaming more than a dozen websites in conjunction with have a dozen of casinos offering poker, blackjack, roulette, and a casino game online to anyone willing to sign up as long as that person is physically in the garden state. this was a huge deal for atlantic city potentially because such a huge appetite for online gaming and in new jersey roughly 9 million residents estimated revenue could range 200 billion to 1.8 billion per year from this new online gaming venture which you can imagine has a casinos and partners

salivating. >> this is a historic moment for the industry we had coming back into the united states is a transformative moment in history, something poker players have been looking forward to for a long time, and the industry has been looking forward to for a long time. >> critics say this is very bad for compulsive gamblers but proponents say it is much better off to gamble online because these regulated sites are better than casinos. you can be anonymous. they may have a picture of you, but that is about it. online you have a register your personal information, they keep close tabs on your betting patterns. and they will make sure compulsive gamblers get help. >> everything you do, we have a record of and we can keep the record for 10 years. so you are not anonymous.

you think you are, but you are really not. >> internet gaming online in new jersey. you have to be in state to play, that is one of the issues they were having a test phase is geo-tracking feature some people who live close to the border were being denied access to the website, but theoretically you can plan your personal device and when you get to the border of another state it automatically shuts down. jenna: thank you. jon: got milk? the guys got into expensive lately? there are alternatives but are you brave enough to try them? we will break out the cookies next we had

a gallon of milk cost 3.50. there is a different option and it is the samer members as

pushed buzz. here are plenty of option. camel milk and llama milk and moose milk and there is donkey and reindeer and yak milk. >> i like the cows. >> thank you for joining us. america's news headquarters stars now. bracing for a travel nightmare. they are bracing for the storm. welcome to hq cheery news? >> i am talking off my parka too soon. i am alisyn camerota. things could get ugly. parts of virginia seeing snow and temperatures dropping and ice is starting to form. and meteorologist maria molina is live in the weather center. >> i want to start out with the concern of tornados.