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a special presentation here. a "the kelly file" salute to our greatest generation. guarantee you will love it. happy thanksgiving, everyone. we got the turkey! welcome to "hannity." the entire country was played and lied to by the administration about obama care. tonight to help us set the record straight about what the health care overhaul means for you and your families, for the entire hour we'll be joined by a studio audience made up of doctors and pundits. you will hear from medical professionals about how your coverage will change thanks to the law. first let's remind the viewers how from the very beginning the administration tried to use doctors as pawns in the debate to help him sell the big lie. do you remember this? [ applause ] >> i am thrilled to have all of
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you here today. you look very spiffy in your coats. you have heard the arguments on both sides of the aisle from the crazy claims about the death panels to misleading warnings about a government takeover of the health care system. some of the people who are most supportive of reform are the very medical professionals who know the health care system best -- the doctors and nur nur of america who see what happens when their patients can't get the care they need because an insurance company decided to drop their coverage or water it down. these doctors know what needs to be fixed about the health care system. you are the experts. nobody has more credibility with the american people on this issue than you do. >> i couldn't agree more. the opinion of medical professionals is crucial which is why tonight they are going to be more than just cherry-picked bystanders in an audience.
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we'll ask doctors to help us uncover the truth. let's also remember that what you just saw was the same 2009 speech where members of the administration ripped a page out of the obama care playbook of deception. they were the ones handing out white coats to doctors in the audience, a ploy clearly designed to give the administration a message of credibility. now real conversations started. first i have gifts for the medical professionals and doctors. generals, sterling, hope. they work on the show. all of you doctors, we'll give you a white coat. dr. siegel has no intention of putting that on. no. you don't have to put it on. but it's there for you. ainsley, if you want to be a doctor for the day, you can. don't give one to terry in the back or -- exactly. the interesting thing, i wanted to be a doctor.
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if i had a chance, some of my best friends were doctors. i would love to be a surgeon. >> why don't you wear a white coat? >> i'm not a doctor. i haven't earned the right. anyway, we are going to start with with wiainsley. you called a lot of doctors today and asked a fascinating question. >> this was interesting. one of my doctors said i was never contacted by the federal government to find out if i'm interested in participating in the plan. what if i want to? they have never called me or reached out. i started asking the doctors after that. have you been contacted? no, no, no. one doctor said they were contacted by blue cross blue choice which is one of the three options you have with obama care. he said he was contacted by blue cross blue choice and not the other two. the federal government never reached out. my ophthalmologist went online and entered his zip code. two doctors popped up on the upper east side of new york in the area. he said, those two are buying
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into the plan. how were they contacted? why wasn't i? >> this is a great question to the doctors. were any of you contacted by the government? >> i'm a surgeon from austin, texas the. doctors weren't involved in the decision-making. the insurance plans aren't the health care providers. the doctors are. if we weren't involved this the decision-making, how can we
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provide the care being promised and overpromised to the millions of people? the math isn't there. >> what kind of surgeon are you? >> a plastic surgeon. >> are you saying i need help? >> they got me. >> you're a psychiatrist? >> i'm a psychotherapist based in massachusetts. i have a large group practice, very busy. >> have you ever had any talk show hosts on the couch? >> i have to keep that under -- >> confidentiality y. >> with higher deductibles, low reimbursement rates, what happens to client care? clients cannot afford the affordable health care act. so therefore, they don't go for treatment. therapists have to drop out. not grub hungry therapists but people who want to keep their
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lifeline. >> i have a friend of mine that's a doctor. went to -- brilliant guy. great grades in high school. got into a great college. four years of college. four years of medical school. internship, residency. you have been through it. then you have to open an office, turn on the light bill. it's a lot of money. pay back the student loans. identifying with this? now because reimbursements are so low he can't afford to keep the light on. dr. manning, do you know people in that position? i'm sorry. dr. siegel. >> absolutel >> absolutely. to the point that was just made we have precedent fornt this ine the 1990s when the hmos started and the networks shrunk down. people couldn't afford to take the insurance. doctors couldn't afford to work with those insurances. if i actually sign up to one of the obama care networks i will find dr. manny isn't there and i will say that woman needs an ultrasound. this is a highay specialized
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problem. i need the best. i i want to refer to dr. manny. dr. manny isn't on the network. doctoring is part of a team. >> i hear you are getting pennies on the dollar.nd b >> and because they have to save money somehow because this is as egs pensive endeavor, as we know. they will be picking doctors who maybe are assistants normally. or they will be a ph.d. wit psychologist. maybe you will go to an under cover degree or something. not to be judgmental but it ta means less service. from the patient perspective this is devastating. i think about thes fact that you are -- when you sign up for o obama care you are signing away that they are going to share the
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information with the irs, with law enforcement. this blows hipa out of the water. >> medical privacy is gone. in my opinion. dr. manny, dr. siegel. your thoughts? >> i think the question should be asked is the private practitioner going to survive in private practice?vate a lot of comments here tonight o has to do with the individual practitioner, like you say. take out a loan, open an office, you have the staff and overhead. that's not the way medicine will be practiced. >> at the hospital. >> exactly. in markets like new york you may have individual private practitioners but in the rest of the country you will be an employee of a hospital, of a health care system. something to that.ealt then you will get a salary, h r hourly wages, work 40 hours a week and go home.d >> or the client has to pay up front because the therapist -- >> yeah. >> access to medical care. just because a doctor is on the plan you may have to wait six
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months before you can see the >> doctor. what kind of care is that t offering the patient? >> if i need your help -- >> i will see you immediately. but i'm sure you would call me privately. >> i pay cash.you' >> he pays cash. so tomorrow. >> he'll be forced to have insurance. so the only way you can accept him as a client is if you say you are only accepting private payep clients and he has to subt for reimbursement. >> it's devaluing. >> you will end one a two-tieres system. because we went concierge ten years ago. we found if patients -- patients would pay. if they had cable tv and a cell phone, they had the ability to pay. i understand that there is another issue, but we are w calling them patients but theset are people.ey'r >> consumers. >> people with needs. >> patients are people, too. >> i want to sit down with withh a human being a and have a conversation and develop a relationship with them andp be
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able to do it profitably and not compromise care. >> i know everybody at home wants to hear from you and what they can expect. we'll come back. we have a political pundit clas coming up.u when we come back, two lawmakers fighting obama care since day one and who are also medical doctors. they will join us to tell us where the battle against this tl horrific law stands today and what, if anything, in fact, can be done to stop it. that and more. our studio audience edition.udio doctors really talking, not user as props. we'll continue straight ahead.ui [ male announcer ] this is george. the day building a play set begins with a surprisewinge of back pain... and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief. [ male announcer ] that's handy. ♪
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two men leading the fight join us from their home states. louisiana congressman charles boustani and tom price, both of whom are medical doctors. welcome back. >> thanks, sean. >> you have been fighting hard. is there anything at this late hour you see that can be done to stop the train wreck? >> we have to keep bringing out the individuals that are being harmed by it. we knew it would happen. we talked about it. what's going to happen is the democrats have to wake up. the senate democrats have to say, look, this isn't ready for primetime. in fact, it will never be ready but we ought not impose this incredible government takeover of health care on the american people.
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there are better solutions. patients and families and doctors ought to make medical decisions, not washington, d.c. at this point it will take the democrats waking up. i'm not sure that's going to happen. >> your thoughts, doctor? are there are tl thoughts or are we forever now governed by kathleen sebelius and obama care? is there hope? >> we have to keep fighting. we can't stop. i agree with tom. we have to get democrats on board in the senate. there are senators now in the democratic side of the aisle who are taking the heat on this. i will tell you, people are angry about this and upset. the fact is we have to keep the heat on. we've got to keep pushing. revealing, shedding light on all the flaws in this as we have been doing and not let up. >> is there any hope for this website? i talked to some i.t. guys, professionals, congressman price is laughing. >> yeah. >> after hundreds of millions of dollars, do we have to scrap it? >> absolutely.
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the problem isn't just the website. the problem is the program itself. but the website is a symptom of the entire challenge that we have when the government tries to tell you what doctor you must see. what health care coverage plan you must purchase and cross all of the things through the irs and other governmental entities. it isn't going to work. we have now spent pushing $600 million on the website. i was told the other day google cost $2 million. it doesn't make sense. it's government at its best which is spending too much money to do the wrong thing. >> do you think there is all the red state democrats now meeting with the president, sending out statements. they themselves on tape saying if you like your plan you can keep your plan. do you think they are going to have big political problems come 2014? >> oh, absolutely. this is the biggest political problem they will face going forward. we heard last week in a hearing that obama care is more than just a website.
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my god, if they can't get the website correct we know what's coming beyond that. this is a more complicated takeover of american health care. almost 20% of the u.s. economy. they won't get any of it right. it's nothing short of a disaster. >> thank you so much. >> remember, sean, we haven't even seen the output of the independent payment advisory board. that doesn't take effect until january 1. >> that's right. >> this will continue to roll out. we have to stop it. >> thank you very much for being with us. >> and massive tax increases, too. >> what a shock. good to see you. former congresswoman buono, you were here for the debate. >> i was. >> with ted cruz and all that happened there, any chance this could be rolled back?
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>> if we start winning elections again. little by little, we can. charles and tom are both right. i call it the cockroach theory. we see one here. it's the ones we can't see we have to worry about. when i listen to the doctors talk what strikes me is they are orchestrating health care through the bill. i look at reb has been and -- rehab and alcoholism, for example. the bill says people will be treated outpatient only. in health care they realize the only way to treat them is 30 days in patient to start. they changed it because it fits the description of the bill. >> it's almost like a little girl, sara murnahan. her doctor. she was on the pediatric lung transplant list. she was on the list for 18 months. her doctor wanted her to get on the adult transplant list because that's what he thought would be best. kathleen sebelius's answer was some people live, some die.
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>> all they needed was one signature. >> thankfully they got a judge. she was going to be dead in four weeks. you are a congressional candidate. >> currently in the state assembly in california. it's a democrat dom that itted state. two-thirds is democratic. i thought since they embraced obama care in the legislature i thought it would be appropriate for all legislators to get insurance through obama care. so i'm introducing a mandate. >> i read in the san francisco chronicle that a million californians will lose coverage. one million. >> i think it's more. and we we'll add two million or oh three million more to the medical rolls. you won't be able to find doctors. it's important that legislators experience the same thing the common folks are experiencing. >> i see terry surrounded. right, emily? you're a big liberal. >> huge. >> when we come back, more political debate and also coming up when "hannity's" doctor summit continues ahead. >> physicians are up in arms. >> when you layer bureaucrats on top of the doctor who is the
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executive of the patient health you're going to increase costs. >> we'll play more of the dire warnings from doctors issued before obama care became the law. plus, president obama's own cousin doctor milton wolf, his cousin, will be here to accept the record straight about the debacle. he has harsh words for his family members on the health care over haul. that and more coming up straight ahead. health care over haul. that and more coming up straight ahead. hi honey, did you get e toaster cozy? yep. got all the cozies. [ grandma ] with n fedex one rate, i could ll a box and ship it r one flat rate. so i kn untilt was full. you'd be crazy not to. is tt nana? [ male announcer ] fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the reliability of fedex.
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welcome back to "hannity." for years we have sounded the alarm about how destructive obama care would be if implemented. we asked doctors for their take. >> physicians are up in arms. >> when you layer bureaucrats on top of the doctor who is the executive of the patient health you will increase costs. >> the plan on the table now will not only harm health care it will destroy the quality of health care in the nation. >> outrage is a good word for it. >> one specific point almost all the doctors were against, support of the president's reform by the ama. >> the ama signed onto this bill within a day and a half or two days. the obama administration announced the doctors are on our side. only 17% of the physicians in
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the country are ama members. so the ama may have officially been on their side, but for the administration to say that doctors are on our side is not correct. many of those predictions have become a reality. my next guest who is the president's own cousin agreed to join us in our effort to set the record straight about obama care. he's a medical doctor now running for the united states senate. dr. wolf, thank you for being here. >> sean, you're a great american. >> how were you related to president obama? >> president obama and i are cousins. i'm quick to remind people that you cannot choose your family. what you can do is choose to rise up and stop your family from destroying america. >> i appreciate that. when your cousin said if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period. if you lake your plan, you can keep your plan, period.
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was he honest? >> i'm from kansas. i don't mind telling the truth. the truth is that was a lie. i have written b about it in my washington times column. i have talked about this to anybody who will listen. that lie about being able to keep your doctor and keep your plan started, if you will recall, one week before obama care was voted on when kathleen sebelius from kansas, when she had her own report that showed 14 million americans would lose their health insurance from obama care. she hid that from the congress and ensured that obama care would pass. she has a b history of having trouble telling the truth. in her confirmation hearings you will recall they were delayed because she was caught withholding information about receiving money from the late-term abortionists in kansas.
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yet our congress -- our senate confirmed her. in fact, senator pat b roberts, my oh poebt, was one of only two republican senators who gave her the two critical votes she needed to run obama care. that was olympia snowe and our own kansas senator pat b roberts. if it wasn't for pat roberts, i know he's asking for her to resign today but kathleen sebelius wouldn't be in charge of obama care today if it wasn't for pat roberts. >> interesting race unfolding there. from your understanding of the law and i will ask our panel here of doctors. gave them free white coats which is more than obama care will give them, and they get to talk. in your opinion, how does this impact the average american that all these people getting cancellation letters, seeing rate shock. as you understand the law how do you think it will impact the average person? >> this is so difficult, sean. i'm a doctor, not a politician. i deal every day with kansans,
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families. they are worried about rates going up. we talk about access to health care. the surest way to keep a patient away from a doctor is to make it expensive. they call it the affordable care act. not a word of that's true. it's not affordable and it doesn't provide care. >> doctor, thank you for being with us. >> thank you, sean. >> let me turn to my doctor friends here. show of hands. how many believe the president when he said if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, was being honest. >> i was there in 2009 when he said it. >> you got a coat? >> i was in the audience. i got a coat. he said you can keep your health plan in you like it, period. you can keep your doctor, period. >> he lied. >> absolutely. i feel bamboozled.
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>> does anyone think he told the truth? >> i have to assume it. bureaucrats don't understand health care. >> this is what we found out. we know in 2010 they knew -- go ahead. >> the draft regulations came out in june 2010 that said you could not keep your insurance plan. it covered small business, large businesses and the individual market. as far as keeping your doctor, think b about that. where are the doctors? did we get a vote? we may not be able to keep seeing you. if you can't cop to us, you can't keep your doctor. it was a lie. >> how many of you know you will lose patients because of the law? >> that's what's going on with our practice. people coming up saying, we're supposed to keep you, right? i say, we don't take your insurance anymore. they don't know where to go, who is going to see them and what's going to happen next. lots of patients are going through cancer treatments,
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pregnancies in the middle of life altering events now finding out that's happening to them. >> i'm the only dentist in the group. the 800-pound gorilla in the room is we have insurance premiums that historically continued to go up and reimbursement to doctors has gone down. as a country, our citizens are getting sicker and sicker. there was a study by aetna health care in 2006 that found on a quarter million patients at columbia university they found improving the health of the mouth dropped health care costs by an average of 21%. that study was repeated in japan. it was the same result. i think we have to move from a disease-based model to a wellness-based model. what we have here is, you know, pandora's box opened by obama care.
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>> if i get sick, i want to pick my doctor. >> exactly. >> what kind of oh doctor are you? >> i'm pain management as well. i'm primarily concerned about the long term health of people who are sick. we have to look at investments in research and medical education. there b will be a doctor shortage, cuts to the nih and federal funding. we can give people health insurance. unless we make advances in technology, knowledge, application of the knowledge, patients won't benefit. >> what kind of insurance are we giving them here? we don't know. just because you have health care coverage, what's it covering? prescription drugs, the doctor you want to see? we have no idea what it is. you could have insurance and it doesn't matter. >> the question you asked is can you keep your doctor today. or you want to pick your doctor. you can't pick it even today. if you have an hmo, if i decide not to take the hmo well, good-bye to your doctor. >> that's the problem with obama care. obama care is worse. even worse than hmos.
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>> it's a modification of the things we got. >> if you want to know what obama care will look like, look at medicaid. that's the model for obama care. medicaid pays doctors pennies. very few good top doctors participate. >> who wants to work for pennies? >> medicare is approaching that level. he's forcing us out of the programs by the crappy payment. all of the sudden they will say, doctors, you must participate or we won't license you. >> they are moving in that direction. >> they are. we have to take a break. we'll be right back. coming up next tonight on "hannity" -- >> hey, do you have that obama care? >> obama care, what's that? >> oh, it's great! [ cheers and applause ] >> it's great! >> what is it? >> i started signing up last thursday and i'm almost done. >> two of country music's biggest stars mocking the president's health care roll out at the cmas. more coming up after the break. we always want to hear from you. log onto hannitylive.foxnews.com. follow the show. share your thoughts on this and more. you can also join us on twitter. we'll continue. at the cmas.
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welcome back to "hannity." while the botched obama care roll out caused anger and frustration it's causing americans a great deal of laughter. at the cma awards carrie underwood and brad paisley took a whack at the law with this skit. take a look. >> hey, do you have that obama care? >> obama care, what's that? [ laughter ] >> oh, it's great! >> it's great? what is it? >> i started signing up last thursday and i'm almost done. let's go to the website and get you signed up. can't be too hard. >> why is it spinning? >> it does that. >> why is it smoking? >> i don't. maybe we should restart it. ♪ obama care by morning ♪ why is it taking so long ♪ i'm gonna wind up with hemorrhoids ♪
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♪ if i sit here 'til dawn ♪ we'll have cataracts and dementia ♪ ♪ oh, this is getting on my last nerve ♪ ♪ obama care by morning ♪ over six people served >> making fun of the president. he's in trouble. chris conover, a health care economist. you do research. you are a research scholar at the center for health policy and inequality. you do research for duke university. >> i do. >> anybody say, hannity keeps mentioning you? >> wonderful.
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somebody has to get the truth out. >> you have studied this law. you have studied the impact it will have on people. >> right. >> you have concluded 129 million americans will not be able to keep their health care. >> exactly. >> how did you get to that number? >> i calculated people who can't stay in their plans in the individual market and the employer market. p many people will lose plans. i estimate 18 to 50 million will lose their plans and have to start from scratch. >> wait a minute. the government made the same estimates. >> they did? >> in july of 2010. >> that's correct. >> they said the small employer market, 60-some-odd percent will lose insurance. >> they made the prediction, sure. >> 40-some-odd percent in the big employer. and in the individual market, 85%? >> something like that. >> they knew in july of 2010. >> that's correct. >> by what point will 129
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million americans lose their health insurance they like -- if you like it, you can keep it. >> i estimate by the end of 2014. >> a year from now we'll be close to 129 million americans that are going to be losing health care. >> keep in mind, 18 to 50 totally lose their plan. they have to buy a new plan. the rest are paying more for whatever coverage they have in order to add on the bells and whistles that obama care requires. >> emily, miss liberal democrat, social democrat. we have a president you love. >> absolutely. >> you voted for him twice. >> worked on his campaign. >> even worse. >> i'm getting a lot of love on twitter from your audience. >> the president says if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. he did all the study, all the background and numbers he got from the government the numbers. >> that's correct. >> he didn't make them up. how do you justify the president
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of the united states repeating 30 times if you like your plan, you can keep your plan and 129 million americans can't keep their plan. explain to the audience how you justify that. >> i think we should put it in context. >> the president made a promise. 5% of the market is the in individual market and there is a lot of natural turnover there. people in the individual market, only 17% keep their plans more than two years. >> excuse me. you're missing the point. the president said if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. you understand that, right? >> absolutely. >> period. 129 million americans, most of whom like their plan can't keep it. why would you justify that? isn't a promise your solemn vow? >> it's partisanship, sean. we democrats have to acknowledge there is a problem and fix the law with the republicans to make it work for doctors and patients. >> doug, you would support revising the law to say if you like your doctor, you keep it.
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like your plan, you keep it. >> i'd pass the legislation tomorrow. >> why can't you be as honest as doug? >> they have brought out bills. i don't think they will pass. it takes out consumer protections. >> you know better. the government knows better? i think the doctors know better. i trust them. >> on the insurance company s to make decisions for a person's care. we are in serious trouble. the moment we choose to give obama a get out of jail free card for saying, do you know what this reminds me of? it depends on what "is" is. >> terry, you were a great analyst, great writer. why am i shocked? there are very few doug schoens who will admit the president lied. >> he did not tell the truth as i know it. >> the president lied. >> i don't like to call anyone by those names. i'm not disagreeing with you. >> the president is a graduate of harvard law, extremely intelligent guy. he can look at obama care and know people couldn't keep their insurance. let me add something. center for medicare and medicaid services say 116 million americans will get their insurance from them next year.
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that's 37, 38% of people. 4 4 million people will be uninsured. 43% of americans who have insurance will get it directly from the government. eventually these doctors aren't going to be working for you or me. they are not working for insurance companies. they will be working for the federal government as wards of the state. >> go ahead. >> it's almost as if we are agreeing that doctors have to do certain things. they will retire. a recent study showed 9 of 10 -- >> would you retire? >> if someone was going to tell me how to diagnose and treat my patients, i would. most doctors said they would retire. >> after four years of medical school, college, residency, internship. >> patient safety is at stake. >> interesting point. we have to take a break. >> this is very important. he knew in 2010 because we reported it. we reported the regulations and
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he knew. it was all over in media in june of 2010. >> do we have the slow mo? i have the slow mo when the president contradicted that statement he read it. they planned the lie. we have that coming up. also on "hannity" -- >> all of the implementation has gone well. there is a glitch in the technology. i will come back to it in a moment. >> you have to pass the bill to find out what's in it. i don't know what planet she's living on. we'll get answers on how well the rollout is going from those serving on the front lines of the medical system of america, the best in the world being destroyed. as we continue. being being de hey kevin...still eating chalk for heartburn? yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. [ male announcer ] new alka seltzer fruits chews. h sleigh bells♪ the bass pro shops 5 day sale starts wednesday
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has gone well. the glitch in the technology -- and i will come back to that in a moment. they are saying he said one thing and another. the president said if you like your plan, you can keep it. for 95% of the american people who have health insurance, that's the case. for a small number in the private market, they will do better. because of the patient's bill of rights that's built into our legislation. >> not 95% as we just revealed in the last segment. it's 128 million americans. that's delusional on her part. she thinks the implementation is going well. is that the case? we bring back our panel of doctors and pundits. monica crowley, look at the camera closely. when the president after all the times saying if you like your plan, you can keep it. then he looks down and reads. it was written, prepared, approved. this is a planned lie.
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let's roll the tape. >> if you have or had one of these plans before the affordable care act came into law and you really liked that plan, what we said was you could keep it. if it hasn't changed since the law is passed. >> you can keep it -- if -- i did not have sex with that woman, not a single time. >> post traumatic stress syndrome watching the clip. let's take a step back and look at the big picture. socialized medicine has been the dream of the american left for decades. it is the crown jewel of the government dependency and welfare state. when obama spoke in 2008 about the transformation of the nation this is what he meant. socialized medicine is the corner stone of the socialist state. none of it mattered when he said if you like your plan you can keep it because the plan is ideological.
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this is the most massive wealth redistribution scheme the country has seen. this is meant to ultimately destroy wealth. >> you are getting a shaking head. >> yes, but this is the truth. this is why obama is not breaking a sweat about the website or about the implementation of this. because he doesn't care. this is completely ideological and it is about remaking the ag heartedly. >> doctors do you agree? >> yes. >> all right. we'll go to dr. robe. >> i have respect for the doctors but you're complaining about something exists today, you're not happy with the insurance system. i'll tell from you my own experience i was pregnant i couldn't get in to see the obgyns i wanted to get into because they weren't taking my insurance. it's not a massive panacea going to be treated for this. >> so much more sinister, they're counting on mental health patients not seeking
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mental health because they're going to be concerned about privacy issues we've had thing that's happen with theed irs and nsa. they're counting on people not wanting to tell people their deepest secrets. they're counting on less people seeking medical care. >> the biggest myth out there, hippa is not violating. let me just say this, nobody else is saying it here, if you're all doctors before obamacare if i got cancer my insurance company wanted to throw me off, they'd throw me off i couldn't come see you guys. >> i, the one thing i do like is that you can't be kicked off a plan if you have a preexisting condition. i don't think that that is right. we're talking about quality of care. that is just not going to happen. first, mental health patients goring to fall through the crack wez have enough problem was violence in
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the mentally ill already. so, i mean, it's just, they're going to be people not getting treated by doctors. i read one article said would you like to get diagnosed by your pharmacist? no. i would not. >> hang on a second i got a break there. they're yelling in my ear. is there an ear doctor here? coming up closing thoughts from our studio audience coming up right after the break. please stay with us. it stops pain before it gets worse. nothing works faster. new fast acting advil. look for it in the white box. we've got allstate, right? uh-huh. yes!
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welcome back to welcome back to hannity. ainsley, health care.gov? >> yes. second paragraph down talking about obamacare. quote, it says if you like your plan, you can keep it. you don't have to change a thing due to the health care law. plain as day, still on the web site. >> wait a minute. let's go to chris. chris? you're a democrat. let me go through promises
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if you like the plan you can keep it. oh, and average family per family, per year going to save $2500 a year, increase? how much per year? >> $7400. >> right. so explain broken promises but you're still going to defend it? >> some aspects of it the program hasn't gone into affect. it has not gone into affect. >> you're on a bipartisan fence. >> yes, there are problems with the exchange and web site. >> what about the cancellation letters? what about rate shock? >> yes. president should not have said keep your plan. that was a mistake. but in terms of addressing the core problem here, i hope doctors here who i have -- >> wait a minute. you said he shouldn't have said it. isn't that bait and switch? isn't that a lie? seriously? >> we got into the profession to help people. tens of millions before obamacare did not have health insurance. question is, are people going to be helped?
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yes. >> you're telling me it's better regardless of the lies? >> just because you have insurance doesn't mean you're going to get health care. talk about a health savings account. that as a disincentive for overuse. you can go whenever you want. ending up with tests you don't need. >> the reason why it's worse, pieces missing puzzle is this. in massachusetts there is a very high -- >> why massachusetts? >> people because compare romney care to obamacare. obamacare is worse. check this out there is a deductible, right? $2000 individual, $4,000 family, maximum. obamacare, no maximum. >> how many support health care savings accounts? >> love them. >> problem is that -- >> with health insurance is not insurance. it's prepaid care. how much better if we paid our own? >> with health saving as kts
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there is some autonomy on how to manage their own health care the doctor patient relationship has become a road block. >> that is the time we have left. fox and friends each weekday morning 5:00 to 9:00, see you tomorrow night. the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. >> it is absolutely an attack on women's healthcare. >> same old song from far left zealot sandra fluke. if you are septic call of obamacare, you hate women. when will this stuff ever stop? we have a special report. >> i think the only thing that could be below you is to not have a job. >> yeah. [ applause ] >> go work until you can get the job that you want to have. >> a big tv star preaching self-reliance to american young people. we will take a look at ashton kutcher's campaign. also dennis miller on the knockout violence across the country. the best of watters world, and another mayor going nuts. >> don't call me mayor.
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