that gives us license to all the air -- to all be air heads. think about it. challenge consensus, question where the cash goes. have a heart, but don't be stupid. see you tonight at 8:00. i'm eric bolling, with bob beckel, kimberly guilfoyle, greg gutfeld and daip. this is "the five." in the news today, obama care from the mind of larry the cable guy in a minute. but first president obama is taking heat from right wingers like me for doing things with world leaders that we find questionable. the saudis and the handshake with dictator hugo chavez and then this morning our commander-in-chief decided to shake hands with raul castro. mr. bob beckel, he sure seems

cozy with the komi's. >> i can't believe you started with that. a guy shakes hands with all of the guys there, and you're making that news. that is bull. >> well i'm not making news. it happens to be news. >> for right wingers. >> it was all over the news. there are other people who are making commentary about this. but look, when you are going down a line of dignitaries and you see a communist leader four guys down, don't you say i'm going to say hello or catch over -- os -- or pass over that. >> do you think he's going to catch communeism by shacking hands. >> what do you think about that. >> on the world stage, with

vladimir putin, the president shakes his hand. i don't think the president, he didn't seek out this opportunity. i think it was there. now i remember in 2005 when president bush went to argentina for an a-pec meeting and the secret service did everything they could for getting to the camera shot because they knew hugo chavez wanted to use it, look at how big i am, i got a picture with president bush. i think the big concern is there is this question about what america's foreign policy is going to be toward cuba going forward. and you see he is walking down the line, he shook the hand and moved on. and people ask why didn't he bring up alan gross, the american prison being held there, if you watch it, it happens too quickly. the president could have told his team to make sure he wasn't in a position to have to say hello to him, but it looks like it was difficult to do so.

>> i believe the white house made a statement saying just that, that he didn't plan it and didn't plan to see castro. but that is what we heard about the hugo chavez handshake when he brought his book to president obama and he shook his hand, event live you have to stop making excuses for the president. you want to shake the hand or you don't want to do it. >> why put yourself in position. i remember traveling overseas with a group of congress women and there was a foreign leader running for congress and we didn't know he had some -- he did everything he could to get a picture and look like he had an endorsement from the united states of america. why don't they anticipate this? i think it is because they don't care all that much. >> and bob, we have an e-mail from jay carney. >> no, it was from the may 5th community, the communists.

>> is that passing the comi germs. i'm with bob on this. this is a memorial service for nelson mandela. this looks small if this is the story you do. if you quibble on -- like this when it is a larger story. and president obama would make it about himself if he chose not to shake the hand. he could just move through and shake the hand and move on and if he doesn't do that, then that becomes the store your and that is not the -- the story and that is not the story. the story should be the memorial service of the world leaders and whether you like it or not, there they are. i think this is a petty story to me. >> i was going to say, to follow up on what dana said, the real issue is what happens with cuba and it will be -- once fidel is gone and it will become a qua quasi -- well because castro

will live for long. >> if you look at president habas, he got cheered at the event and george bush got booed. the celebration of the life of mandela is the purpose. but people are curious about the cuban piece because we don't know if there will be a move to lift the embargo and you'll have people like senate mendendez and rubio come together and say that will not happen. >> and senator rubio said he was against that handshake. >> isn't there a broughter question about what our policies are as a foreign whole. and it shifts our policy back to what is our foreign policy. what are we doing in the world? >> i guess my point is until you have that conversation

tomorrow -- do we have to use the funeral to have a conversation about foreign policy? no, you don't. >> i think and i listened to president obama's speech, i think he made the speech more about president obama than about nelson mandela. >> no, he didn't. >> but there was how nelson mandela was an inspiration to him, it felt like a narcissistic speech. >> honorable, respectful, all you want to think about your president, but not when he does a selfie, at this memorial, are you snapping selfies? >> there was a photograph of president bush with bono, who are friends. but i think what this funeral did is bring a lot of different people together for the benefit

of africa. let me defend president obama right now, that is not his phone. it would be awkward for him to say i'm not taking a photograph because then a.p. would have getten a picture of him not getting the picture. i think mrs. obama said it all, can we have a little decorum right now. >> and have you seen the leader of denmark. she is hot. that is one hot woman. >> what are you suggesting? >> well, she's a good-looking woman and she offered to take a picture with him. michelle obama doesn't look very happy about it. that was my take on it. that was my read from the photo. a photo says a million words. >> can i say one thing, this must be the slowest damn news day if this is what we got.

>> bob, you have to admit, if you are at a funeral, you will pull out a camera and do a selfy. >> i think president obama should be impeached. i think this is a horrible picture. not for the picture, but when he has the picture taken he is doing this. he is biting his lip. i find that to be very, very offensive to me as an american and him being a kenyan born interloper. this is not his fault. this is not just a solemn affair, it is a happy affair and people are there and like dana said, what do you do when someone puts up a phone like that, you have to take the picture. >> it was great leading into that. >> why do you take that, to show it to people later. so you are at a bar and you say, check this out. >> this is what happens when world leaders get twitter accounts, they want an instagram and then you do that. >> a selfi, is that a twitter thing? >> it is not a good idea to do it overall.

>> i bet if any of you guys at this table had that leggy blond want to take a photo, you would have done it. >> i find it extremely crass and tacky to do it. moving on to obama care. we never hear this level of sense. we hear larry the cable guy follow the bronze plan. >> you have followed the obama care. >> sure. it is a disaster. but i have figured out the bronze plan. >> you did? >> it is what color your fingers look like after you give yourself a profit ate scam -- prostate scam. and the gold plan is kwh you -- when you start to miss your wedding ring after you had to pay for the deductible. and the silver plan is what color your hair will be after you're done signing up for it.

>> great way to get 'er done. >> i don't have a comment. >> even on the self-prostate exam. i thought you would have something on that. >> i put it off. it is tough. come on, bob, you have to stick up stronger for us. and what about finally somebody calling it what it is. >> it is very, very true. maybe that is your -- reminding you about your prostate exam. i didn't think anybody else could be as crass on hannity last night. but i think the story today is in the washington post that shows that a lot of people who are thinking they are signing up for the plans, democrats like bob have said there is no pre-conditions, everyone sign up, and insurance companies, eric, have gone to the administration and said you want us to cover all of these sick pakts -- patients and now we have to pay for this medicine and there are going to be

premium hikes and people aren't getting their things cover. >> i'm sure this administration has not cut a deal with an agency for meds. but now that we have larry the cable guy, have we done the complete circle on obama care or do we go to raul castro and ask him what he thinks. >> do you want to talk deductibles? >> no, let's not talk about it at all. i'm still staggered by the hand >> one state put out a low expectation. >> colorado. for enrollment numbers in the state of colorado they said we have our worse case scenario and they are coming in below the worse case scenario. they are trying to get something done before the end of the month. but in oregon, minnesota, it is just not ripe. it is not ready to go. and i really -- congress is going to leave after next week so i guess the president --

maybe he will find it in his heart to do some sort of extension for people before he goes off on holiday and then members of congress leave because they can't change the law between now and the end of the month. >> and they need to do it by the 23rd. you have to be signed up by the 23rd and pay by january 1st. >> people keep saying that obama care is a disaster but it is not a disaster because a disaster implies a recovery effort. obama care is actually going to be maintained. no matter how bad it is, with hurricane sandy you cleaned up, but with obama care you will prop up. it is like an oil spill in which you keep pouring the oil in it because if you stop pouring the oil in, you admit it is wrong. >> you guys doan have to live with it for a year because [ inaudible ]. >> i disagree, bob. once you ruin the system, how do you expect republicans -- i think they can win elections based on it but how do you go

about fixing it. >> i will guarantee virtually all of the people without insurance will have it by then. >> you are wrong. you need 20 seats to turn and not ten. >> i'll try to explain this to you. if you have 55 and 45 and if they splip the -- flip the seats. >> that is not enough. >> i said it was enough yesterday. we won't be veto proof. >> and people are wondering and you've said it millions of times on the show and screamed at all of us. >> i've screamed at you over obama care. >> yes. you said people can get insurance now, for people were sick and now you have a headline in the washington post that people are not getting their medication, they are plan and they are not getting coverage. >> it is just damn terrible the way it is falling apart and nobody will have insurance and everybody will be on the street sick.

>> and the bright side is president obama only destroyed one-sixth of the economy. >> before we go, can i just pose a question. let me throw this out. what about the 12 or 13 or 15 million undocumented illegal aliens. >> what about them? >> do they get obama care. >> no. are stupidity synonymous?

in an interview with playboy magazine, whatever that is, ben affleck said if he knew any republican actors, he probably wouldn't like them. and katy perry said she didn't let her parents watch her sing at the president's inauguration

because they are republicans. and this creates a barrier to critical thinking and you avoid having to listen to competing thoughts, bob. and it shows that the high priest of religious of toll rabs are celebrity, because only they can be the good guys. not voting for obama is not wrong, but it is evil. and this fits perfect with the velvet rope of exclusion that celebrities pine for. it gives you the influence of intelligence that you crave. and it keeps your opinions cool. those excluded are anyone not living on the coast, people with boring 59 to 5:00 jobs, stay-at-home moms, southerns, mom and dad, people who go about their lives doing their best without the purpose of nannies,

yoga instructors or shrinks. they are also the people who buy movie tickets. >> bravo. let's talk ben affleck. he is slightly taller than you. isn't what he is saying true about everybody in some way or another, we like to create a bubble against those people that we disagree with? >> yes. except when you are forced out of your comfort zone and you have to talk to someone you might not agree with, you might be pleasantly surprised. one of my great memories of the last couple of years is taking the train back to d.c. with bob every friday night when we first started "the five," for the first five months we would say they better understand we are not moving to new york and we would talk about all sorts of things, politics and the rest and we would look at each other and say afterwards, how could we both be of the same species an

you think so differently than i do but we ended up being great friends. so i think after plek is cut -- after fle afleck is cutting himself off. >> and i bring up the allegiance to teams and what that does. you may never had met dana if you stuck to your team. >> i was a political consultant for years and i would be up against republicans all of the time. and i got to know them. ed rawlings, lee atwater. i think it is true, when you cut yourself off -- if i cut myself off from republicans, i couldn't sit in this air. except for eric shs i can cut off with that. >> was lincoln a nice guy? >> he was a good guy. and i covered the second lincoln inaugura inauguratal -- inaugural and it was good.

and the gettysberg address is not as good as it sounds now. >> do you think the left are right when it comes to ideologies? i don't know. maybe not. maybe there is the whole spectrum of the right or the far right. but i think these guys do themself a disservice, sean penn, ben afleck, half of the country is conservative and when you talk like that you alienate others. but have an opinion. state your opinion. i would like to know where you stand on stuff. >> the interesting thing is, andrea, and a lot of the opinions, this is not an original thought for me, but it is an add less ebt kind of thinking -- adolescent kind of thinking because they weren't involved in anything except coming famous and now they feel guilty and they go to crusade on

issues and they are like a freshman in college. >> well they pride themself -- a little bit of knowledge -- sophomores, the definition of sophomoric. and this was poses to ben afleck and so he is looking at people in his own domain and say i probably won't like them. and to answer your question, eric, i think republicans are for giving. i don't think ben afleck is that great. connie britain, she's on nashville. >> i went to africa with her. we met at jfk and we get on there, i didn't know who she was and she didn't know who i was and -- >> now you are living together. >> and we spent a week traveling to different places in africa.

i think she is amazing. it was interesting. but it wasn't until we landed until we knew who each other were. >> and can i say one thing, greg, you are saying that people who voted for obama are from the coast. let's remember 60 million voted for him. >> good point. >> but the point i'm trying to make is if you look at actors like that, like the ben afleck, i don't look at him and think of his political beliefs. if he is a bad actor, i kind of do. >> connie britain is a major star of a show. nashville takes place in the heart of country music. >> and speaking of music, we have to bring this up. katy perry, this is the worst example of politics and sacrificing your family. she chose politics over her

parents. >> she wouldn't be there without her parents. >> that is true. >> she's just talking. her parents are going to say i'm not going to watch you perform? well didn't she wear the ballot with the vote check on obama. and how many people voted for obama? >> 60 million. so that means 250 million did not? >> no. eric, you can't vote if you are 3 years old. i know you like to have that right. by the way, i never heard of her before. she's a good looking broad. >> i like her. i think it is weird that she knows -- everybody knows her parents are republican. i think that is close minded. >> i thought that was disgusting. >> it is disgusting. >> and the more i talk to

liberals, the more i feel i'm right in my conservative views. >> can we run that again so i can decide if -- no, the other one. keep going to a couple of others there. >> the green dress. >> there is another one. >> they took the banner down. >> we're building up bob's mental bank for later. >> thank you very much. and a snow ball fight leads to the suspension of one college playir and other members of his team could be in trouble as well. all for throwing a little snow. we'll show you the video. what does that mean?

we've been known to take

down some college professors here on the five, but not in the way some university of oregon students good last friday. many from the ducks football program were caught on tape pelting a professor with snow balls. pharoah brown was suspended from the team's bowl game after he got caught dumping snow on top of the professor's head. and we have pictures of this. it is a pretty heated snow ball fight. they are pelting his car. >> can you see greg behind the bar. >> greg gutfeld instigated this thing. >> the professor said i probably did this kind of stuff when i was in college. >> but there was more than that. >> the thing escalated into some people getting hurt, cars being stopped, i think at a certain point, you have to stop it and put a marker down and butting

this guy off the bowl team, that makes no sense. >> what do you think, eric? too strict of a punishment for a snow ballgame. >> last night we talked about the florida state quarterback that was arrested and then let go because the d.a. decided not to bring charged and i said he should play and get the heisman. i stand by that. he should get the heisman. but this guy -- you sign a code of conduct when you play high school and college sports and you sign away your right to play if you pull shenanigans like that. and this guy is clearly guilty. but there is a difference -- on one hand is rape and the other hand is snow. >> the guy with the heisman, got in trouble with the law -- not the rape charges, he was doing stuff in fast food restaurants and got slapped on the wrist for shenanigans back at the school.

>> i've been afraid of snow ball fights. my grandfather in newcastle, wyoming, when he was a young kid, there was a big snowstorm and they were having a fight and a young boy got his eye -- he did, he lost his eye. >> i love the fact that you are afraid of snow ball fights. >> well we were told we couldn't do snow ball fights. >> you are afraid of snow ball fights. >> well it is all fun and games until someone gets their eye hit out. and the difference is a football player -- >> i think i did snow ball fights when i was 17. >> but they are basically mocking the idea of global warming and that is why they should be suspended and this is revenge for obama care because these students are going to have to foot the bill for that

professor's health care. i'm assuming it is over climate change and obama care. >> every professor in the entire country is a climate change professor. >> so every person who will be attending the super bowl is not going to be allowed to tailgate this year. the rule was put out by the met life stadium and the game officials. they are saying, you can't grill, you have to stay within your parking spot, you can't take taxis and limos there. but people are ticked off. but you can sit in your car and eat a sandwich, if you want. >> that is called wednesday. >> and it doesn't have to have tires on it either. >> i think all of that grilling, walking through the parking lot with the guys with the flags and big barbecue grills. how they haul the grills there in the first place, i don't know. but people get drunk before they go there and that causes destruction in the stadium. >> i think you should be allowed

to tailgate. it is part of the history of the game. it probably the best part of the game. hopefully not this time. what do you mean you can't party outside against -- you are against that why? >> because people get drunking. >> grilling? >> i don't care about grilling. unless it adds to global warming. >> they are not drinking outside in the parking lot. >> but isn't that the whole purpose to get you inside of the stadium to spend the money. >> right, exactly. >> but i was told not to tailgate either. >> to talk to strangers, put your eye out. >> i was only allowed to sit at home and read. >> you could burn your feet. it is dangerous. >> what if the meat is not fully cooked and you can get sick. >> i once saw a guy throw up on his grill. it was like a denver omelet. and the other story, you can't drive to the game so all of the celebrities, you can't take a taxi or a car. there is only 16,000 parking

spaces and you have to take mass transit. can you imagine all of these people taking mass transit? >> it was a disaster. >> you should have stayed home, dana. >> i should have stayed home and read. >> and you have to be careful reading, dana, because -- >> ahead, the story behind the social media explosion that caught dana by surprise when we come back.

i think that is great. what do you mean it is pathetic? >> great choice, joshua. >> you are fired. >> on sunday night i have done something i've never done before because i couldn't cook.

i tweeted out a picture of something i made. a roast. i made this pot roast in a crock pot and 29,000 people have liked it on facebook and i had no idea posting food photos was so popular and to some people so annoying. did you know about this? >> you are such a lisa simpson, it is not funny. >> who is lisa simpson? >> it takes hours for people to make food look good in food magazines, food never looks as good as the way it is. it is like preordained pop. >> what is that? >> an onion. it is like taking yourself -- taking pictures of yourself at the beach. it is never as good. but at least it's not jasper. >> 29,000 people commented? >> 29,000. i had no idea. did you know about this? >> i just learned it on

thanksgiving. i never tweeted out pictures of my food. i have southern friends that do that, and i got a whole bunch of twitter responses on this turkey, my mom made it. and my sister made an apple pie with a pretzel crust. people wanted the recipe. >> apple pie with pretzel crust? >> i bet we could get you up to 50,000 likes. >> the whole social media is just going -- >> did you make that with hobo carl? >> yes. >> we were trending last night on twitter a couple of times. >> i think it was because of jasper's 20th month birthday. >> let's see if we can get dana's pot roast to go wild on twitter. >> i guess i gave some of the pot roast to jasper and i don't

think the meat bothered him. and there is a restaurant pet peeves list and there are 44 pet peeves. we have chosen just a few of them. they were written by people who work in the business. so there is the sad solo diner, somebody who shows up and doesn't have a newspaper or even an iphone. you also have the ethnic menu overpronouncer. do you know that person? like i'll have the burr-ritto. and the gluten free evangelist. but it does get a little obsessive. the group dinner free loader. this is the person when everybody goes out for drinks and you order a cheap beer and they order the expensive martini. >> and they they go to the bathroom when the check comes. >> and then the habitual wine returner. have you ever returned wine? >> not once and you are not supposed to. >> that is something i didn't know.

>> if you order a wine that is too bitter or sweet for your liking, you own the wine. >> you open it and you own it. >> because you have to taste it. you taste it first any way. you know what is on this list, the conversationalist. this is the person that talks to the waiter when you want to drink. so you're sitting there and the person keeps talking to the waiter and you're like all i want is a damn drink. it is like somebody who needs to talk to the waiter. >> is there a list of babies being in the restaurants? >> yes, that is on the list. >> i went to a restaurant and they had the diaper chienk and they brought it right through the restaurant and it just stunk. >> adrian and i do that when there is no one on the other side. >> it must be love. >> coming up, should america do more to help free the hero to

help free -- to free the home run -- the hero?

♪ that is crash, right? okay, he helped us find bin laden. dr. shaquille afreddy has been jailed in pakistan since 2011 after the country found out he helped the country with a fake vaccine program that led to bin laden. his sentence of 35 years was over turned. a new sentence will be determined. he will be allowed to consult with his lawyers or his family and he says he had mental torture behind bars. do we have a responsibility for getting people like this out of -- assuming the diplomatic and they've asked and been turned down, do you think they should land some troops in there and help get the guy out. >> i think we have a responsibility to the -- and we

also had -- to the doctor and we also had an obligation to keep his identity secret. he assisted us in getting bin laden and instead of allowing him to get a retrial, which the decks will be stacked against him, we should be pushing vocally and regularly for his release and we haven't done that. >> same question for you, eric, do we have a responsibility to a certain level to get him out. >> a responsibility is a big word. i think we should do our best to try to free the doctor from pakistan. pakistan, they claim to be our friends and yet they do something like this. there should be a diplomatic push. and the pakistani that helped mark lutrell, these are the people we should help. >> dana and greg, same question? >> well i -- >> he said both of us together. >> do you want to do it in

unison. >> yes. >> leave, no one, on the battlefield. i didn't understand why we didn't try to scoop him up. >> scoop him up? >> scoop him up and get him out of the country and put him in the witness protection program? >> well that is fine -- >> i don't see how president obama would be able to convince pakistan -- >> how do you scoop him up? >> go to the jail. >> it is a big jail. >> i think she means get him before going to jail. >> how is this an injustice and why is he in prison for this? this means their allegeance is to terrorists. >> don't you remember pakistan went crazy that we brought a hospital in there without their knowledge. >> then they are our adversary,

then we have every right to go in there and take this guy. if they believe they are on the side of the people we killed, like osama bin laden -- >> that is something we have to ask. we could lose troops too. >> there are a lot of interpreters in afghanistan that helped our troops during the mission there and now that we are leaving, i think we should allow them to come to the country. and here is one of the sticking points. how many family members do you allow. just immediate family as defined by x and then allow them to come in. >> you were too young to remember this, but in vietnam, all of these vietnamese that helped us, killed by the viet

con, they went to the embassy and ended up getting killed.

time for one more thing. guess what, hash tag dana's pot roast is trending on twitter. last night we talked about larry the cable guy on hannity. he had one other thing to say on the air that i found interesting and didn't put in the package before.

so here it is. >> o'reilly and i have been working on a book. >> what is it called? >> it is called killing a beckel. it is called nuggy and beckel. >> thank you very much, buddy. >> you want noogich e? >> dana, you are up. >> you might remember we've been talking about a reporter of ours at fox news who covered the story of the colorado massacre at the movie theater and her name is jana winter and she's going to be compelled by a court to reveal her resources and today it was revealed she won't have to do that. here is our boss roger ales on that. >> today's ruling is say major win for all journalists. protection of jana winters' confidential sources was necessary to protect journalism and democracy in hi view. so the highest court in new york did the right thing.

>> so now jana winter will not have to testify. >> fantastic. great stuff. and you are up. >> you just heard our boss, now you get to hear what his son did on saturday. now typically i don't advertise when i lose a bet, but i was bet if i lost a game of pool i would have to say it as my one more thing on "the five," and i scratched, and so here it is, you beat me at pool. >> i like that he wore a tie. >> and this is a long one. boss takes out the blood pressure medicine. these people spoke today at nelson mandela's memorial service. we have the vice president of china, communist, we have the president of cuba, raul castro, communist. we have the president of brazil, a socialist. we have president obama, the question mark, and then we have

the president of india, center left, and the president of namibia, a socialist. so i'm just saying, they couldn't mix in one free market capitalist. >> did greg go there? >> he was there in spirit. >> and so was bill airs. well everybody is a communist. i'm a communist according to you. >> hit me up on twitter and let me know what you think. greg, you are up. >> it is time for greg's preemptive apology. >> being that it is the holiday season and i hate it more than anything, i have been a jerk to everybody so i made a list of -- i have to apologize to the website inturn, and i was going to do the resolution a seven

second thing but i will do it tomorrow. i have to apologize to the producer for the o'reilly factor for yelling at her and to just about everybody else that i know because i really hate the holidays. >> group hug. don't forget to set your dvr and don't miss an episode of "the five.." this is a mox news alert. i'm bret baier in washington. congressional leaders have agreed to a new budget deal. it will limit the cycle of standoff and shutdown threats but there are concerns about spending. house and senate budget negotiators are set to unveil the agreement any moment. you are looking live now on capitol hill and we'll take you there live as soon as they step to the podium. in the mean time mike emanuel is standing by live at the capitol with some details. >> good evening. they are calling it the bipartisan budget action of 2013 and it has been between patty