>> this is the year when many year was injustice are going to be put right. army wins. >> we are fair and balanced. you can't get more fair and balanced. >> we'll see who is not here on monday. thanks for joining us. >> bill and ally are next. thank you so much, guys. fox news alert. we'll cope an eye on the daily white house press briefing. the rules for obama care are changing again. >> the administration wants people to it have more time to sign up and pay the premium. we have a washington columnist and co-chair of most powerful women's summit and nina, great to have you. >> i am army, go army. >> and good to have you weigh in on all of this it. and so december 23rd is no longer the deadline, what is happening now? >> they pushed it back to

december 23rd, basically there is a second roll out so to speak. we had the first, the first, there is a big debow of obama care in october which was enrollment and now january is actually, when you get covered and they have because of all of the problems with the website $319 million website and the seven and half million people to be enrolled by spring, because of all of these problems they have to continue to push the enrollment deadlines back. so there is another push back for about a week, and this will give people more time and also i have to say create confusion. >> well, exactly. therein lies the problem. obviously tonight's courtesy to give consumers more time to try to sign up and gives the appearance at least that there is confusion and chaos connected

to it. >> that's right. and you know, they are, it has been, this website has been so fraught with confusion and chaos. it does the same. and one of the problems here, they are strongly urging insurance companies to go along with this. do you know if they are willing to accept your late payment? i look at this and i think don't get sick in january. >> right, good advice. and given all of the confusion with the website as you have outlined, why give them dead lines and when you seen up, then you are covered? >> they set up the system of rolling dead lines and that raises a good question. they had to shift the deadlines all the way around because of the problems with obama care down the line. and so yeah, they set up the dead lines and they are fake dead lines of course. the businessman date was a dead loip and they pushed it back

a year. in the end of the day, dead lines and problems may play out. but the bigger question is how obama care will operate and act people's lives. will it act your coverage? there are signs that people who are chronically ill can't keep the speciality doctors under obama care. that is huge. will it be secure? there are signs that hackers are trying to get in and take personal information and the security system is not completed. there are deeper problems that go beyond enrollment issues. >> those are all of the things that are discomforting to americans about it. is there a way to say it is getting better? do we know if it the website is getting better in the system? >> it is interesting, kathleen sebelius said 346 people signed up and another 800,000 have been qualified for medicaid. when they say signed up.

their definition of signed up is that they selected a plan and doesn't mean they have gotten to the insurer and made the payment which there could be resistance to making the payment for the premium. they it are not necessarily hard figures. the figures that you are getting out of the white house, they are putting their own spin on them so to speak. >> nina easton, thank you so much for helping to explain this. >> and in the meantime the law is a moeba and edhenrow has more reaction from the briefing room, what is the explanation gip there, ed? >> reporter: they insist there are some metrics that show the website is getting better such as the error rate coming down. but we hear about people who haven't been able to enroll. and some believe they are enrolled but not sure they will have insurance on january 1st. secretary sebelius late

yesterday issued a unlateral last- minute regulation and some saying, basically you can pay up on december 31st for your first premium and get insuranceective on january 1st. that is a 24 hour turn around and insurance companies raising skepticism as to whether they can do. that secretary sebelius in miami said things are track and marco rubio said it is falling apart. >> a lot of people who don't have affordable coverage in the work place will have the consumer protections that people are used to in employer- based insurance where they can't be locked out because of a preexisting condition and they have a full package of benefits. >> the federal government will have to step in and provide a cash infusion to keep the insurance companies on the exchanges and going bankrupt and insolhaven't. that will be unpopular as well. we have seen only the tip of the

iceberg as to the will aring series of bad stories with regard to obama care. >> remember the administration said that 1.2 million new people enrolled under the health care law but several million people who had health plans and in the process of trying to get them restored or now plans and you will remember the president's promise. if you like your plan you can keep it. a political group declared that it is the loy of the year for 2013. a dubious achievement for the president. you can bet jay carney will get hit with that. >> part of the reason they are doing this. there is a forein january people will think they signed up and go to the doctor, and they will find out they did not. there is a republican yesterday who was on our program in the morning, he said he expects hundreds of thousands of americans to face that reality in january. is he right about that ed?

>> reporter: it is unclear. there are people pack in wyoming who are stocking up on medicine now because they are not sure if they can get their prescriptions in early january. there is a foreout. there late yesterday one of the new things that secretary sebelius announced, they are urging insurance companies if someone has a current doctor they can see them if even he is outof the network. is a doctor going to say i will take you even though you are not in my network? is the insurance company going to pay for that visitine though the doctor is not in the network? it is all up for grabs. >> it is murky and we have never been here before, ed. and we are waiting on the briefing from jay carney. thank you, ed, on the north lawn in washington. a startling revelation to tell you about an american

citizen who vanished seven years ago in iran. robert leavenson was working on a rogue mission for the cia. the u.s. described him as a private citizen traveling on private business and that was a cover story a partnerly. the married father of seven was gathering intelligence when he disa pored in iran. the cia paid his family two and half million to head off a revealing lawsuit. >> extreme weather alert in middecember. bitter cold temperatures and chilling you in the country and the forecast calls for snow and pile up in the midwest and northeast. and rick is looking at the maps behind us. it is here my friend. what is this. snow magetton? >> if you are in the areas of the great lakes and you talk about lake- effect snow and you think it is not a lot. that band right there and that

one right there in the tug hill plateau 58 inches of snow in the county and getting hammered. two spots of upstate new york getting hammered from this. this next storm has nothing to do with that it snow and the pictures you are seeing there. it is this storm out of texas now and bringing rain in missouri, and arkansas and oklahoma and down to texas. and that is a storm moving in parts of the ohio valley and northeast and bring us snow. and we are not talking about a nor' easter, but something that will cause problems and rough conditions on the roads and air track delay for your day tomorrow. here's what happens. we see the rain overnight and so the snow develop in chicago, indianapolis, columbus, ohio, and throughout the day tomorrow, snow and at times very heavy in pennsylvania, and new york. but like all nor' easters, it is a magical line where the storm

sets up that is a driver and how much snow we get. we'll see kind of light snowfall titles in the ohio valley and eventually heaviest in the northeast. dc, philadelphia and new york and boston, i think they will see, especially newark and boston 3- 6 inches of snow and crossing over to rain after. that bill, you can see the darker colors. a lot of ski resorts and you love good snow and they need it and good for the economy and it is happening on a saturday and people don't have to get out. stay inside. >> or sledding outside. thank you, rick. it's happen again, another stabbing in a nfl game. >> and secretive north korea. who the young dictator ordered the execution and why it is unsettling to that region and world. president obama getting an

award he will not want in his trophy case. it has to do with this promise. >> if you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan period. if you like your doctor, you will be able to cope your doctor period.

several people in custody after a stabbing in the sports authority stadium in denver after the game last night. three people were stabbed and a fourth may have been hurt and slipped away in the chaos. police are trying to figure out what sparked the violence. >> no word at all on motivation. i don't know if it was gang related. after we are able to interview the witnesses and the suspects, we go through those interviews, we'll have a better idea what precipitated this. >> we are told all victims are

conscious and talking and this comes after two weeks after a man died after a struggle in missouri. the broncos were playing in that game also. >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. if you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. if you like your health care plan, you will be able to it keep your health care plan period. if you like your insurance plan you will keep it. no one will be able to take that away from you. it hasn't happen yet and it will not happen in the future. >> maybe not. president obama delivering what they call the quote the loy of the year for 2013. >> that broken promise outramged millions of americans that received notices that current policys would be cancelled. still the obama administration maintains you can keep your doctors, but you may have to pay more for them now? >> how about.

that jooel have jowly and ben. good day to both of you. alisyn lane's permission, i will ask the first question. >> all right. go a head bill. >> guy, what about this whopper? this is like two layers of chose and extra mayo. >> yeah the lie of the year. >> it got higher. >> it is now the lie of the year award and people are having fun with this on twitter. suggesting the first proiz that the president has actually earned as opposed to the nobel peace prize that looks hilarious in retrospect. the president said if you spread the wealth around it is good for everybody. he ought to share credit for the loy with all of the democrats in congress that helped him perpetrate it year after year. and political fact they called it a true claim in 2008 and half

true in 2009 and now 2013 it is a lie of the year. >> that is a interesting point. isn't it interesting that they are categorizing this as a lie as opposed to a broke ep promise. it suggest that they think the president anyhow he was saying a falsehood. >> i don't know if they categorize it. it is right. this was not accurate. the president said you can cope your insurance plan and you will be able to keep your doctor and insurance plan and negotiate with the insurance company. i can't argue with this. it is not an accurate and true statement and he deserves it. >> in october. valerie jarret talked about it nothing in obama care forces people out of their health care plan. long- term, julie, look at trustworthy figures and in a year they have fallen off of

the table and last two months they jumped up 15 points. how do you dig yourself out of that when you lose trust? >> it is hard and this is a big problem. the president's job performance may not be as popular as he wanted it to be. but the personal attributes and trustworthiness and people liked him were high compared to the job approval rating. and when they went down for any politician, bush saw it with iraq and katrina and obama seeing it now with the statements and the government shutdown. this happens and i think i don't know how many campaigns i have run in my life, it is hard to regain the public's trust once you go out there and at a lose faith. not only in your policies, but in you as a leader and that is a challenge for this president. >> guy, your last thought. it is as if the president didn't

realize there were cameras rolling the 30 something time thing. >> it is videotape. we play it over and over. and i hate to be the spoiler, you like your plan and doctor keep it. that will be the strong contenders of the 2014 lie of the year. millions more americans will have cancellations and paired back networks next year. maybe they will get themselves a head of the curve for once. >> thank you very much. enjoy the weekend. >> ally? >> we would like to know. >> have you heard a bigger whopper in 2013? >> send us a tweet@alisyncamerota. >> and@billhemmer. >> we like the creativity. >> we like humor, too. it goes a long way. >> to where we read it on the air. we would like to it hear the

whoppers. just in disturbing details about the criminal past of the fake interpreter foot away from president obama. >> and the teen killed four people and the judge agreed that he was too spoiled by rich parents to know right from wrong. >> we applaud the judge boyd for having the courage to issue the sentence to give ethan a challenge to develop in a product you have citizen and try to make a mends for his actions.

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mandela's memorial. he has faced charges for rape and breaking and entering and many of the charges were dropped because he was deemed mentally unfit for trial. and the government said 100,000 people signed up to file past the casket. that line stretched for miles before a state funeral is held in the hometown. the outrage builds. a texas teenager getting probation for a drunk driving crash that killed four people. the judge bought the argument that 16-year-old ethan couch didn't realize he would have consequences because he was so wealthy and privileged. eric lost his wife and daughter when couch plied in a group of

pedestrians. >> we anyhow it was a maximum 20 year sentence. ethan would be eligible for parole in two years and while recognizes that that is kind of the circumstances that we are dealing with. i was not happy with those circumstances. you look at 180 years and future life taken. >> dr. keith a blow is a psychiatrist and a fox a time medical examiner. >> he is so privileged and never held accountable and suffering from a ffluens, where a. >> it is not a known psychiatric disaster. his attorneys say without the ability to comply with the law based on whatever. if that is what they are saying that his crimes are due to an

inability to comply with the law, they are describing an insanity plea and judges don't release folks and shouldn't to short stints in rehab or 30 or 60 days when that happens. they should go to looked psychiatric facilities and four people killed. >> it is not a known disorder but a known phenom nan. didn't we know kids in high school who drank to which and did drugs and drove drunk and were irresponsible monsters? this kid is not an out liar. there is a lot of kids act like this. >> it is an inventive term. and this term that now name companies and lol, for laughing out loud. it is creeping in the lexicon even in psychiatry. there is no a fluencea and they have kids raised without values

and at age 16 the courts have to decide whether to try them as adults, if you have a 16-year-old and his attorneys say he can't tell right from wrong and doesn't understand the consequences of his action? that generally means decades in a looked psychiatric hospital and i would argue that it the judge erred because he didn't understand what was put before him. >> the judge did wrong and it was outrageous he didn't go to prison. in terms was phenom nan, is there something from privileged kids that come from money and being less responsible and bigger sense of entitlement and behaving more irresponsibly and like monsters >> no, there is no data to suggest that kids with money are by and large are more vulnerable to not being emthetic. there is a lot of great american

families with money who raised fabulous kids. i don't think that being strapped financially assures you of character and being rich assures character. there is no data to support this. you can look at any stratum of society and wonder if the stress in this particular cultural level are impeding empathy. it is no more true for people with resources than people without. >> always great to get your perspective. thank you so much. >> we heard from critics, too. it is a crazy story. >> i loved everything that dr. ably had to say. >> keith, thank you for that. critecs calling obama care a train wreck and it is about to get worse than it is. >> hi level execution in north korea and what it means to hold on to power there. sweet temp advertising.

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barbara want the same vaccine that was sent to princeton university. those schools have a rare outbreak of menigitus. step brother of golf star tiger woods arrested in phoenix. he made a false bomb threat in the government building he works. >> and this is a sweet tooth ally softballing the largest ginger bread village in the big apple. the four station and town tall and underground subway station made of gingerbread. >> how would that like a piet. >> i am temped. >> now you are talking. >> i said to the administration, the democrats are looking at a train wreck in january and this is exactly the reaction to a it and the democrats say it is

a train wreck and panic reaction. the judge said it is utterly lawless and approaches banana republic lawlessness. >> charles krauthammer calling obama care a train wreck. >> slamming a obama care can be a trap for republicans hoping to get elected. we'll have doe, doe. and doug who is a former advisor to bill clinton and a fox news contributor and welcome to you. >> hello and thank you. doug, charles krauthammer's assessment, is she going overboard? >> i think charles is basically right. the real concern i would have is that the republicans offer no ideas of their own and no alternatives to obama care and they could get all of the benefit that the issue could advise and did in 2010, but bottom line tis it a huge, huge problem for the democrats. >> what about the republicans

falling in a trap, dee, doe. is that a possibility? >> no. unless we bail on this. i mean, it is it a gift that keeps on giving. the republicans should be gleeful and we are. i can't believe we are giving a gift and terrible policy. we have the democrats bailing on obama left and right. no one can sign up, and the website is still a problem and then you have all of these people saying look our policys are tripling and state legislators trying to pass laws so their folks don't have to take obama care. >> hold on, dee- dee, stan green burg long time pollster and democratic advisor said not so fast to republicans, because in his polling, what he foundine in battleground states, voters say they want obama care fixed and

repealed. they don't want the scorched-earth policy of throw the whole thing out and they want it fixed. he believes that if republicans run on it would not go well for them, doug. >> stan grownburg is over stating the case. doe- dee is right. it is not a good issue for democrats and unpopular as predicted back in 2010, but greenburg is correct to the extent if all of the republicans do is ba sh the democrats and offer no ideas and no way to fix a law that is on the books and isn't going to be repealed as we saw with the government shutdown, if all the republicans do is overreach there could be a back lash. >> i heard that point twice. is there a response on that decision. >> he is a bright pollsters but stan is partisan. i think he is dead wrong here.

two things about democrats, ram emmanuel is right and now he is probably saying i hope the republicans let this tragedy go to waste. let this crisis go to waste. it is a crisis for the democrats and we'll not let it go to to waste. we'll try to help our people. our constitiency. it is a bad policy and not about the democrats. >> and waiting on the response to that and rollins was afraid of you, doug. >> he is. republicans walk away from people that the republicans feel. and i take it. >> i think dee- dee is ready to take him on. >> thank you. >> stunning development in the north choral choral. the uncle of the leader is executed and described as a traitor.

there is some disagreement for what this means for the 30-year-old leader. casy mcfar land is with me now. the execution no ungood deed goes unpunished. ntwo years ago. kim jong-un father died. he was 28 and tock power and stepped in the dictatorship because his uncle helped him and so at that time, kim jong-un a new inexperienced leader and his uncle will guyed him and two years later kim jong-un accuses him of treesopes and executes him. and so there is really no good deed. >> and you were saying a while ago watch out for the new leader. you have three specific concerns. >> people had said when he took power he will be a reformer and went to school in switzerland and modernize the economy.

i thought the opposite. i thought he would be ruthless and show all of the senior people he what it take to run the show. he's got rid of the uncle and replaced all of the senior leadership around his father. he now feels he is doing no wrong and he's all powerful. and the second thing is bill, western pacific is heating up. china claimed a bigger area and the third thing is, he's not just playing with ships and tanks, he's got nuclear weapons and any miscalculation could lead to a rapid escalation. >> that gives hem a sense of greater authority and probably greater control i would imagine. >> greater control and in the last two years, he provoked a number of crisis. you expect them to do that. but some of the chrissis that kim jong-un provoked came close

to being really things that have been out of control. what happens if the next chrissis is where south korea doesn't turn the other cheek and japan doesn't turn the other cheek. the worry is something could go wrong quickly. >> in a nuclear country. thank you. go navy. >> beat army. >> good luck. >> see you soon. fox news alert. breaking news a troubling chemical explosion. fire in the blue island petrochemical plant. it is a town 20 miles south of chicago. you can so all of the black smoke choking there out of the chemical plant. we don't know how it started and we don't know how close firefighters are controlling this and put it out. it is close to it chicago and you can imagine that chemical cloud washing over chicago and we'll cope an eye on this and

bring you the latest. >> stay for more on. that >> we know the fate of a war memorial cross that some call unconstitutional. a federal judge rules to take that cross down. >> it is there a long time and it is a monument to the city and so, i mean, i think they are overly politically correct.

>> the role story. >> yes, i jumped the gun. i am excited. >> more extensions and delays for obama care. good thing karl rove will stop by to break it down. and paul ri uponap and marco rubio on the same team with the budget battle? different strategies for both guys and white house contenders. and a small town police chief

posted a scatting letter to kanye west after he said rapper is like being a police officer or going to war. >> the mantel panel. >> i got to say you got to come up. >> you will get your chance. >> all right. >> fox news alert in southern california, which you willa vista, the bomb squad on the scone of the courthouse. there is a suspicious package was foamed in and we are not sure what is coming of this. they will take no chances with the courthouse. live in southern california, here. on hq. >> all right now the west coast, bill. the federal judge is ordering the removal of a war memorial cross saying it violates the separation of church and state. will is live in los angeles with more. >> reporter: hi, guys, this cross is seen for miles in san

diego and sits on top of a hill in san diego in the mount sola dal national memorial. in 2006, the controversy started getting back. jewish war veterans came together with several of their neighbors and the help of the aclu and decided to sue. and yesterday, the federal judge said that the cross is unstewingal because it violates the spragdz of church and state. the judge ordered that the cross had to come down. as you imagine the aclu celebrated and visitors told us they have mixed feelings. >> it is here a long time and it is a monume to the city and so, i mean it is being too overly political correct. >> it is a slap in the face people who are not christian. i am sad it is coming down but on the other hand, it is not

a union versal symbol. >> the judge ordered that the cross come down in the next 90 days. there is a caviat. representatives for the memorial decide to a pole it could stall the process. >> tell not be coming down son. we will appeal judge burn's order. and we will then as i said take it up through the appellate court and to the supreme court. the supreme court is already declined once to hear the case and representatives of the memorial now it is ordered that the cross has to come down that the supreme court will take it up again in the near future. back to you. >> so the fight is far from over and heading for another round of appeals. >> for more doug is here. what will happen with the appeals process. the judge ruled it is on public property and it was a open and shut case.

>> it went up in 19poas a war memorial and had nothing to do with religion. and 1989, a atheist brought a lawsuit and won and it was supposed to be taken down and it was interesting, the city tried to sell the property to private owners which happens and they tried to sell 200 square feet and they say it is a ruse and it was one sfept acre parcel and they tried to sell a half an acre. and where it stands now. a u.s. district judge larry burns, right. ruled it has to come down. but he will stay it pending appeal and we'll see what happens. legal test is a throw- part test and what it is, does it have a secullar purpose? in this case it was a war memorial. two, does it have to promote religion. it does on a level. and does it cause entanglement

tone government can religion no. two out of three. in my view legally. >> you think the cross should remain? >> i do. it was a war memorial going in and that is secullar and that is important and a bit of a grandfathering concept. my answer might be different. doug, what if they put it up today. but it went up in 1952 as a war memorial and that's where you start. >> jewish veterans of the united states who brought the original lawsuit and they felt we support the government paying tribute to those who served bravely and we should honor all of our heros and not one particular religious symbol? >> how do you get around. >> the great point. i talked to experts and at the time, the majority of served were of that religion not to say that there were not others and that's why i

empsideways the grandfather. today i don't think you could put up a 43 foot cross under the banner of a war memorial. these cases are case by case. yeah, because the standards are wide open. in kentucky, a case rul radioed one way with respect to the ten commandments and a later case that went the other way. and the last point i would like to make case went another way. >> the last point i would like to make is this may end up in the supreme court. and that will be a very interestiinterest ing situation. it will be one of these scenarios. >> but it stays for now? >> yes. >> thank you. >> prince harry braving bone chilling temperatures all for charity on a south poll challenge. >> tomorrow marks three years since the death of border patrol

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