these rules are war on the little guy. >> i'm a constitutional lawyer and have no idea what's in these books. >> it protects consumers. >> they say we need more. >> there are times we should infringe on your freedom. >> perhaps it depends on the federal government to protect our children. >> now, they keep passing more laws and we're drowning in red tape. >> i can't eat the way i want, can't drink weather what water i

want, can't -- the way i want. >> this magician must have a license for his rabbit? these men were arrested for offering home improvement. >> are you kidding me? >> how is any normal human supposed to understand it and follow it? >> i don't have that answer. >> the constitution says, i have a right to bear arms. where i live, i can't do this legally. >> can't we get rid of some of this? >> the good news is some of us cut through the red tape. >> i chose to be a survivor, not a victim. >> so families have a better experience and even i can drive a cab. welcome. all these people are combatants in the war on the little guy. >> a certain amount of regulation is good. the problem is they don't stop. >> i would be out of business. >> with every phone call there came more bureaucratic red tape.

>> these people say laws, endless rules strangle them. >> our government adds thousands of new pages of laws every year. >> that's on top of the 175,000 pages they passed in prior years. >> this is what you see here, just the federal part, state, local governments add much more than this. if you wanted to get state, county and city laws, you need to rent a big building. >> lawyer jeff helps people deal with this. >> this is control for its own sake. why they do what they do. >> come on. they're not machiavellian power freaks. >> i'm guessing you haven't dealt with many bureaucrats. they like rules and live to enforce rules. >> underpaid government function. >> i call these regulators little emperors and justify

their existence by creating regulations. >> even marty the magician is regulated. >> i got into a full time magician, i thought, how can i be regulated as a magician. >> he can't get out anymore, too bad. >> marty entertained kids for years. like many magicians, he uses a rabbit. [ applause [ applause ] >> we'll have a birthday child come up and make the rabbit magically appear. that knocks them out. >> a few years ago. >> i was signing autographs and taking pictures with children and their parents and suddenly in the mix, an inspector said, let me see your license. a license for a rabbit. she said from now on you cannot use your rabbit until you fill out paperwork, fill out a $40 license fee, inspect your home. >> i am subject to surprise inspections of my home.

>> she's not embarrassed? >> she's very serious. >> marty was in violation of the animal welfare act. 10 times regulators have shown up unannounced at marty's house. >> you can't argue with them or talk logically with them. >> she would love it if everybody said ah. >> i got a new inspector and the first one retired. good news, we increased our budget and have more inspectors now. we'll be able to visit you more often. >> you got this letter, dear members of our regulated community. sounds like a family. >> unfortunately it's a community i don't want to be a part of. they actually wanted a comprehensive written disaster plan detailing everything i would do with my rabbit in the event of a fire, flood, ice storm. >> there are 20 possible disasters they list. intentional attack, animals escape, tornado, hurricane, blizzard. >> the government called these common emergencies. >> the plan came in at 30 pages.

>> you say to these people and say, this is ridiculous, they laugh and say it is and we have to do this. >> they don't laugh ever. >> there's always more. you're not doing a job if you're a regulator unless you add more of this stuff. >> that's why government grows in one direction and doesn't shrink. america was conceived as a sea of liberty with island of government power. we're now a sea of government power and ever slinking liberty. >> let's go to that island of power, i'd like to show you around. >> you want to see d.c., just $10. that's the capitol behind me, the irs building. i can't tell you that. that's illegal. >> guided tours are offered in washington on the segue. segs in the city, get it. one problem. >> this is illegal. >> it is illegal if you talk. >> bill maine had an idea, tours

by segway. >> tours here. >> but guides must take a test and get a government license to give tours. >> we get you back to the kiosk here. >> you will give a tour? >> uh-huh. >> but you don't have a license. are you a bad person? >> i am not. >> she tried to get a lies accepts. that's not easy. >> i had to get four personal references and criminal background check. >> total cost, $200. >> two or three weeks later they said i could sign up for a test date and i took it a week and a half ago and failed by five points. >> after this interview she tried again, jumped through more hoops, paid another $115 and retook the test and finally passed. >> aren't they trying to make sure people get a proper tour. >> i passed the bar exam, i know

how to give a proper tour. >> off to your left, washington d.c. and to the right, the pentagon. >> it's about guide what to say and limits on speech. >> and john rosemonday was told he couldn't give advice. >> if john rosemonday is a criminal, dear abbey was for 50 years. >> i received a letter from the licensing board saying i was practicing psychology without a license. >> cease and desist, you're engaged in unlawful practice of psychology. >> people from all over the country are getting in trouble without a license. i represent a blogger from north carolina giving out dietary device over the internet. he got in trouble. a vet helping people overseas

have no access to veterinarians, got in trouble. >> it is often the little guy the victim of abusive law. >> am i being arrested? >> we need to economic you for weapons. >> these men had the nerve to offer home improvements. >> are you kidding me? sn>> no, sir. this is a sting operation. >> because these job seekers didn't put up thousands of dollars and take several test, government cracked down. bureaucrats at state licensing boards offered jobs to people who posted ads, i seek work. when they showed up, this happened. california is proud of this. they posted this video online at a time unemployment is high, our government attacks people who want to work and stops people from starting businesses. >> i just got started and now here they come. >> she was told, you need a license to help people with

taxes. >> free enterprise at stake. >> this man, if you're selling t-shirts here for 30 years, was told, you must stop. >> this is just the rules from friday, december 16th. tiny fine print. >> yep. >> everyday is another book. >> yep. >> and you have to know everything in here or you can go to jail? >> that's right. i'm a constitutional lawyer and i have absolutely no idea what's in these books. >> each and every one of these is incomprehensible to me. >> totally in kcomprehensible a unnecessary. i'm flipping open this book, department of energy regulations for the formula of determining the energy efficientsy of a commercial ice maker. somebody who runs a bar or restaurant can just go to the manufacturer and say, give me an ice maker, if it works nemarket will figure out what is the best

ice maker. >> there will be reviews on yelp or "consumer reports." >> we don't need the governments requiring mathematical formulas and requiring everybody to conform to this bizarre bureaucratic standard. >> it doesn't go away. >> it's like a disease, like a mole, just eats i through slowly and you don't exist anymore. >> the mexican gray wolf. the humpback whale. the sea lion. these are endangered species and they need protection. >> so the endangered species act seems like a good idea. i want those animals protected. most of us do. the bureaucrats always take a good idea and run too far with i it. >> it's our job as ambassadors

of this law to protect our nation's species for future generations. >> the government wants to use land in louisiana to protect one type of fraud. >> we're haunted by casper the fraud. >> the mississippi gopher frog called captain sper the gulf coast because none of these frogs live on his property. >> i looked it up and found out by their own publication the frog has not been seen in this state of louisiana because our land is not suitable for it. >> the frog doesn't exist in this area. >> it doesn't right now but has historically. >> why fair to impose this on this poor man. >> they used to be here in the thousands and this landowner has five great ponds on his property. >> the government went after him after center for biological

diversity sued fish and wildlife not doing enough to protect caspe casper. >> the government can just say this is a good spot? >> yes. but that isn't how i would put it. people think wild america is cool america. >> people want to protect animals. >> absolutely. >> i didn't know there were 9 million species, all go extinction at one time. >> do all 400,000 beatles need to be preserved? >> economic, spiritual ariel sharons spiritual reasons. i don't know where the line is but i will try to save a species. >> such rules have an unintended consequences. now landowners know if government finds something on their land they will -- >> take it out of commerce, what

they really want. >> it led to a new response called shoot, shovel and shut-up. >> in other words, if landowners see an endangered species on their land, they shoot it, bury it and shut-up about it. that way you can keep using your land. >> their job is to preserve endangered species, shouldn't they preserve these things. >> it could but the frog can't live on our land. >> says you? >> the wildlife department. >> they will have to remove all the trees, replant trees, dig ponds that have to be maintained every six months. put the frogs back on, build the forests every year. >> the wanted to build homes on that. no problem says the fish and wildlife, we work with

landowners. they wouldn't agree to be interviewed but instead posted this video. >> we're looking forward to working with willing landowners in louisiana. >> they tell you how they will cooperate. they have this handbook. >> it is a tedious bureaucratic road map. >> 300 some pages, unbelievably complex. you still couldn't have a live. >> this is reasonable? >> hundreds of pages. >> i think his lawyers are capable of looking at it. if they can understand it, i can understand it. >> you're an environmental lawyer. what about people trying to live their lives. 30 days here and 40 days here. >> i think it leads to something transparent and faster. >> telling someone they can't do something with their own property to protect an animal

that doesn't exist there is craz crazy. >> the environmental rules is to protect a species. nobody can deny there is a legitimate core of government regulation out there but on top of that core which is small there is a giant time wasting paper generating regulation. how many money are you out? >> $34 million. they say that is inconsequential. if my land can be taken for no reason and no animal at all, anybody's land anywhere any time can be taken. don't sell it, don't build a garage or swing-set on it. opt even cut your grass. >> all around america, landowners, shoot, shovel and shut up about it. coming up. the supreme court says i have a right to carry one of these. will my city let me?

what if you want to carry one of these for self-prosection? i thought the supreme court said you could. what does that mean in my town?

in new york city politicians say -- >> the majority of people want sensible gun restriction. >> sensible restriction, what does that mean? >> photocopy not accepted. i tried to get a gun license, they make it very hard. first, you must fill out this 17 page form. the form says i must promise i know the definition of other weapons like switchblade knife, gravity knife, kung fu scar. i don't want a kung fu star, i just want a gun for safety. people sometimes threaten me because they don't like what i say on tv. >> i think they have too much security now. >> after this appearance, some say i should be shot in the face. when i travel around town i'd like to have the option of protecting myself. people use guns everyday to stop crimes. >> the robbers got more than they bargained for.

>> today, laws in every state allow people to carry a concealed gun. many worry this would lead to a surge in gun crime but the opposite happens. >> violence appears to be droppin dropping. >> some towns make it nearly impossible to legally carry a gun. >> this is 50 pages. who understands this? >> it took hours and hours to fill out the forms. we had to call the police department six times to clarify what questionsmeant. finally, it was done. have to get this notarized. >> go ahead and sign here and i will fill in the rest. >> then, you have to go in person to police headquarters. here, they fingerprinted me, asked me to list reasons why i should be allowed to have a gun, and then they charge me a $430 application fee. they said they'd get back to me. at least they were polite. others tell a different story.

>> they're rude right from the get-go. >> robert martinez served in iraq and afghanistan. >> i have 10 years of military experience. >> i would think a military vet could keep a home gun in his hor protection. >> why do you want a gun permit? >> i want to protect my family. >> he lives in a new york city housing project. >> a man was beaten to death in my community. >> he thought he would get a gun license and that turned out to be an ordeal. >> they'll have you at 9:00 when they open up at 10:00 and s sitting by 3 clock in the afternoon. >> they had me in there almost 90 minutes. >> john stossel coming in to get a license. >> you, 9:00 in the morning until 2:00. did you get the permit? >> no. >> their attitude is people don't need guns. >> you have a better shot at the

lottery than getting a cop on your street when you have a problem. >> glenn herman runs this website which advises people navigating the regulation. >> if you're this expert, i would think it would be easy for you to get people guns. >> it's still an ordeal. it's being used as a weapon to deter people from following the process which can take as long as a year. >> for me, it took 8 1/2 months. first, they told me i had to return to police headquarters for another in person interview. this time they demanded i prove an accusation against me had been dropped. the headline was not enough. i was supposed to produce the original court document. they said i had the document threatened against me. i could show them this. they sent me a letter rejecting my application for a carrying permit. i could get a license to keep in my apartment but i feel safe in

my apartment. i want a permit to carry where i might feel threatened. i was told you failed to demonstrate a special need. the license advisor told me i'd applied for the permit the wrong way. >> friends of the ruling class, that's who gets it. every one else you're out of luck. >> don't trump got a gun and so did de niro and others. >> they will get you in front of a judge and within two or three days you will have your permit. >> these individuals can afford to pay for security, my family can't. no way in hell i will let this lie.

people expect the city to be

regulated. let's move here and move 600 miles away. >> he lives in north carolina. people call him mountain man. >> when i moved here there wasn't a clearing or building. >> over 20 years, his turtle island education center became popular and taught a thousand people how to live life as a pioneer. last year, he was told to shut down. >> he hadn't gotten permits. >> people said his camp was unsafe. >> we don't necessarily know whether it's unsafe or not. >> the mountain man told the inspectors, go away. they brought lots of people. >> they brought different departments, health department, tax people, fire marshal, this whole team, trucks and cars as far as you could see blocked our driveway and came in with armed guards and took over our home. >> doesn't it seem like overkill? >> not really. they had their pist stolls on

the side. he had the ability to cooperate. >> and it led to a 78 page reports what he must change. >> 92 more government overkill. >> a lot is crazy. they have a picture of our doghouse for a german shepherd. it's four feet long. they said this is interim housing. i don't know whether they said we have midge gets here or not. >> they have unsafe building. >> you have a building resting on a piece of rock. >> yeah. we've been working with the department 20 years, they're telling me i can't live the way i want, can't poop the way i want, can't sleep in a building the way i want. >> i guess a new bureaucrat came in we have a stack of permits and permitted every year, all of a sudden, completely

unacceptable. >> do you ever think there are too many rules? >> yes. i think that all the time. we don't invent the building codes, we're the enforcers. >> how is any normal human supposed to understand it and follow it? >> i don't have that answer. they -- i don't have that answer. if you look behind me, we have 24 statute books. i'm a lawyer, i'm supposed to know all the statutes. builders can't possibly know all this but they are taught how to look this stuff up. >> why don't you just do what they ask? >> if we do what they want we destroy the reason we're there. we want primitive natural living and they want us to have modern buildings. i'm not going to do what they want me to do. >> what will happen to him? we'll get back to that. first, what will happen if i try to be a cab driver?

why should this be illegal? that's next.

if, before i could get my tv show, i had to first get permission from the competition. if dan rather or diane sawyer said no, i wouldn't be here. that makes sense. >> r.j. from kentucky wants to start a moving company without having to get his competitor's permission. >> so he started. >> put an ad on craig's list, pickup truck and enclosed cargo trailer and very busy all summer long. >> after a couple years ask you have 30 employees and six trucks. >> over 30 now and clean cut

guys. >> the guys showed up exactly on time and loading and working hard. >> r.j. soon learned pleasing customers isn't enough. he got a threatening letter from state regulators. >> we need a household goods permit. a certificate of necessarily saying there is room in the market for us to operate. >> certificate of necessity. >> that there is room in the moving market nor another mover. >> what? a business has to prove it's needed to get a license. >> you essentially have to get competition from your own -- the other firms first. >> and you would have had to have gotten proof for another coffee shop. you wouldn't have gotten it. >> right. competiti

competition towards this stuff out better. the consumer is in the driver's seat but not when necompetition has veto power. >> we're worried about competition. >> ryan has his own moving business. kentucky, like half the state, all allows existing companies to protest competition. 19 businesses were prevented from entering the moveing area because businesses say it is adequate. all these other moving companies say, no, we don't want to allow that. what gives them the right? >> we're not against new comp y companies coming into kentucky. >> yes, you are, you don't want a moving company stealing your business. >> we don't like the scenario of a licensed company go wrong

bankrupt. >> companies go bang rurpt krupe time. it's what makes the population look. >> borders bookstore went bellry up. >> would it be good to have 15 moving companies in one area? >> maybe. how do you snknow? >> you'd have companies to provide a good service. >> the breaks can't decide whether there's a good need for a new moving company. not only the moving companies can do that. wouldn't home depot want to say, new hardware store in the neighborhood, you can'topen. wouldn't gm like to say no toyota or honda. >> sure. i'm not the one that set the law, i'm abiding by the law. >> also, he said, the older

moving companies want to protect consumers from shady operators. >> say i'm coming to get your furniture and say it's $85 an hour and get to your house and now $150 an hour. >> you can look onto the web to see their reputation. >> ressa checked the web before hire i hiring her mover. >> it would cause alarm bells for me. >> have you had complaints of people you moved? >> no complaints. we are the top ranked moving company in the state. >> start-ups create the job growth. >> entrepreneurs are the innovation of wealth creation and job corroboration. >> i assume, if i want to move,

it's simple. >> should be. buy a truck, point the word mover on the side and you're in business. if customers like your services they will buy from you, they won't if they don't like it. >> what we want is a free marketplace. if we have an orderly marketplace, it should be orderly. it child be customers doing that. protect established businesses to compete fairly. these laws are all outrages and ought to go. >> what pace withes the stupid mustache in my car. nexought to go.

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what if i could make some money driving my own car and help you, too, wouldn't that be great? >> your lift has arrived. >> thousands of people already do that thanks to new cell phone technology that lets ordinary car owners offer rides to people. people who want a ride open an application. this one is called lift, others include sidecar and press a button and flags a driver, in this case, me. lift makes the drivers put this

ridiculous mustache on our car. it's a marketing gimmick but helps a person that wants a pickup spot the car. i also have the passenger's phone number. and his name. tim? unlike normal cabs, lift drivers invite customers to get in the front seat. >> welcome. >> thank you. >> is this your first lift ride? >> my first lift. >> where are you headed? >> ken signed up for lift because it's cheaper than taxi, maybe 20% cheaper. >> i had friends that used it and liked it. >> he likes passengers sit in front. the founder says it makes for a friendlier ride. >> there's a seat in the front seat and figges bump and you meet someone with different political beliefs and music

tastes and there have been companies formed by drivers and passengers. >> have a good day. >> no cash changes hands, by credit card only. the price is up to the passenger. if he didn't like me he can tell his app to pay me less and have a tougher time getting a ride. >> and rates me five cars. >> that makes it's easier for the next person. why would she feel safe getting in a stranger's car. >> every one i've taken so far has been very nice. >> not everyone can be an lyft driver, i had to pass a background check and car insurance. you can see them rating each other. >> you can see pictures of them in their car and ratings. >> you get bad ratings, you

can't drive anymore. >> it goes both ways, ratings on the drivers and passengers. people get rides, i make some money. what a great deal. who would object to that? >> taxi drivers, that's who. >> cabbies lined up their cabs and then let them sit in protest of car sharing apps in the city. >> new apps like this make establi established industries angry. >> you're damned right we are, we have families. >> we have to get insurance and regulations and the pink car has nothing. >> there's the rating and they don't have to obey all the city taxi rules. >> they just don't comply with the law. >> bill runs the biggest cab company in los angeles. >> you're trying to ban the

competition. >> no. we're competing with people who follow the rules. >> there's safety standards? >> they're licensed as private vehicles, no safety standards. >> actually better than that. if i'm checking the app, this driver is criticized, that's not the honor system, the world policing him. >> that's after the fact. >> in washington d.c. they got so upset with car services they did a sting operation. today they tolerate services like lyft and became too popular to be strangled. there's no reasons they're safer. >> you're in new york, a licensed cab driver hit a woman and jumped a curvicurb.

>> that doesn't cry out for less regulation but for more vigorou vigorous. >> most of the rules in the transportation industry is designed to prevent others from competition. >> bureaucrats demanded every car service but established companies must charge at least $45 a ride. >> i have to charge them $45 for going four blocks. nobody's going to ride for $45. >> it was to protect the cab industry. >> the new $45 minimum ended the work. >> we went back to texas. >> he fought the rules in court but the bureaucrats won. >> why would they want to protect existing businesses?

>> because they're political ly connected. >> in this down the hotel lob lobbied for a bill that makes it illegal for me to rent my own house for less than a month. and it passed.

got some extra space in your house? want to make some money renting it? now, you can't. >> here's my room. i think it's pretty nice. here's the stairs. they're going to ban them but i think it looks nice.

>> they, who's they? >> this is the office. >> victoria doesn't know much about the office because it belongs to strangers and she and her mom just arrived. they're from florida and wanted to visit new york city a few days and they prefer to stay in a home. >> a lot better than being in a hotel by far. being in the city with a child is much more convenient. not only is breakfast amazinama. >> this man renovated his apartment and decided to make extra money renovating his space to tourists. >> i like to meet people from all different parts of the world. >> that's why he makes his space as part of the deal. he advertises it as air b & b, air bed and breakfast and fri d friendy loft steps from time square $149. and pictures from previous

guests and home away from home. cozy. >> not only can we use the bridge, fresh hot coffee. >> julie likes staying at homes because this way her daughter gets to learn a little how people live. >> messy comfortable. >> and this is run by gia and her husband. they created it because they travel a lot. >> we said, hey, there must be thousands of apartments empty right now and how can we find them and book them. >> and how might they rent their home when they travel. why not go to craig's list? >> on craig's list you don't know who you're dealing with. we dealt with people who never showed up, didn't pay in advance. >> how do i know i won't get some guest that will trash the place? >> there are reviews on the site. >> the review, the internet feedback, this crowd sourcing is what makes these cool ideas work. julia and victoria knew she was

a good host. she knew less about them. >> most guests don't have as many reviews, once i get their name i'll try to do a search on them. generally, i've had really good luck. >> he's happy. they're happy. this wonderful new business where strangers with complementary needs find each other keeps growing. so, of course, politicians cracked down. >> it's an illegal hotel situation -- >> this politician got a law passed that banned any from renting their own apartment for any time period less than a full month. if you do, you're an illegal hotel and you can be fined up to $25,000. the hotel industry supports the law to protect tourists, they say. >> they walk into a situation that is not safe, not clean. >> really? when we asked for names of complainants, her office didn't provide it. >> there are peop begging legislators for the law to be

overturned. >> the good news, despite all the laws, sometimes entrepreneurs and their customers still win. room for rent website lists are up since new york's law passed. people like alistair makes money and tourists save money and both have an experience they normally wouldn't have. >> bye. enjoy your class. >> it was amazing. great, easy, fun. >> the cheaper taxi services survive. regulator regulators pounce and business grows. >> it's growing fast. they say multiple times lyft has restored their faith in humanity. >> in more than a dozen cities. the mountain man refused to close his camp and his passionate supporters got north carolina legislature to change the law to exempt primitive camps.

>> sounds like the law was written just for him. >> it was written just for him and fixed it so he was pretty much exempt. >> the mountain man teaches kids again and segway tours continue and r.j. keeps moving people while he fights in court. marty can keep his magic story u up. >> after the headlines, the government backed off and marty must no longer have a disaster plan for his rabbit. >> wit mh a magic and rabbit -- >> you had to have such a government story you made the front page. >> most people suffering silently. mo these people fought back. >> these legislators believe they're making the world a better place but we're making the world a better place. >> it's great to win. >> good to be here with other people. we're not the only ones.

>> they are the good news. >> the bad news is the mayors and state capitols everywhere, they keep adding more red tape. they should stop but they won't stop. we'll stop. that's our show. thanks for watching.