hello i'm greg gutfeld with kimberly, dana, bob. this is the five. >> what should we talk about today? oh yeah duck dynasty star suspended for his opinion on grays. he can say whatever he wants just not there. call the network cowardly after all they knew who phil was and didn't mind sitting on the pile of money he made to express shock over his opinions now is b.s. this is fear of angry activists.

if a and e had guts they should have said sorry, that's phil. he expressed preference for female over males. if that's big gotted, most of america is. as for the gray stuff, gay rights 60 to 70 years. to expect everyone to turn on a dime at exactly the same change regarding the size mick change in belief got to be patient. robertson said a similar thing. you can still like someone with flawed ideas. my wife married me. give them criticism and give them no favors. look at obama. to think we need protection from words. words do not wound, actions do.

outrage is emotions, going to the gym for your feelings. a and e and punish him. sunlight allows good ideas to grow and bad ones to dry up and die. so, do you want to see the statement from ae first? let's put that up. all right. extremely disappointed to have to read phil's comments based on his own personal believes. they are not reflected in the duck dynasty. in no way reflect the network. the network placed phil in hiatus from filming indefinit

indefinitely. if you had phil that grew up and stayed in the same area in louisiana in the farm area, my guess that was phil being phil. problem is some of these people now that the show has taken offlike it has, these are probably things you keep in the family. >> somebody had that conversation with you. >> do i don't blame ae for the business decision they clearly made. >> if they were going to be honest, don't send him home, just make it part of the show. >> that would be an editorial decision. bob is right. i'm all for the free market figuring out this rather than us telling whether -- i don't want to tell ae they made a mistake. they made a decision to cater to or at least advertise to the gray community. that was their decision. whether it's a good business decision we'll find out. we'll see if the gray community

says it was worth while or if it's a bad decision. if viewer ship goes down because of it, they catered to the wrong group. that's what the constitution is for. say whatever you want. just you bear the fruits of whatever you're saying in the aftermath. let's figure it out. it's not a crisis. >> what do you think andrea? when i hear stories i do feel sympathy for a person. as someone that speaks or writes for a living you're worried you're one phrase from a comment to start a fire misunderstood or perceived. he gave a sincere apology. however, what he said was just something you shouldn't say. i get it. people talk like this. he's from a different generation. it seemed to me it was a crude way of saying it and vulgar for the sake of being vulgar. i heard it and thought it was kind of offensive.

ae definitely knew this was him from the get go. now that gq published it they're on the chopping block i guess for some people that want them to get rid of him. why don't we stop talking about people's undercarriages. can we do that? maybe that would be better? >> your southern states, bob. >> you agreed with everything you said. you said why are we talking about this? i'm kidding. is this about freedom of speech or apprisele? >> perhaps both. people need to realize even ducks don't come in politically correct packages. you know what you're getting. people love the show. this family speaks its mind. if you don't like it, take care it that way. reflect it in ratings. ae now has fophil on a timeout d rest of the family not. i don't know. sometimes you can't teach new

things. if that's the way they think and grew up and to expect more than that is challenging. i think you're setting yourself up for a fail. he shouldn't have said it but you know. >> if you watch this guy on the show, this is not a stupid man. this guy realized how to make a lot of money out of a situation from duck calls. i think he must have -- he should have stopped and said to himself, this may be the things i believe but don't put it out in print because it's going to come back to haunt me. >> those interviews are tough. you talk to magazines or reporters. you think something is off. >> he compared homosexuality to beast alty which i believe is a crime. it is harsh what he said. you look at people on the most fascinating people. she had the duck dynasty and the pope. the two share the same political views. look at the ways they articulate

them as christians. the pope says i don't want to judge. let them seek god. it's a much more christian way of doing hit i think. >> i have to be careful with this. i am by no means condoning anything that -- the way phil phrased. the way i understand this and i could be wrong, but he went through some of the trials and tribulations of life. his life was crashing and burning. he found jesus as a savior, read the bible, believed the bible. he gave verses from the bible in this context. it's seen in negative light as where it may just be him discussing how he personally feels which by the way directly from some portions of the bible. >> right. an element oddly being overlooked when this whole thing

broke. the other thing said about working with blacks and the idea that blacks were happier back then. he meant preentitlement and prewelfa prewelfare. he said he never saw the mistreatment of black person. blacks worked with the farmers. i hoed cotton with them. they're singing and happy. i never heard one of them say, i tell you what these dog gone white people. not a word. preentitlement and prewelfare, you say. what do you make of that? >> it's the same line i heard in the south over and over again. they're all happy. why you come around and mess around everybody is happy and singing? they're not to say anything to a white guy in a white community because they're going to get in trouble. again, it reflects his time.

it's the old saw about all those black folks just happy on the other side of the tracks. i find that to be horrible. >> what's interesting kg is that ae is still having the duck dynasty marathon. clearly they're upset. they're not that upset. >> because ducks rate. it's about and cents. they did the bear minimum of what they thought was expected of them to be socially and politically responsible by saying phil is going to sit it out. they're running the show, going to run the marathon. that's business in america. get the paula deen treatment and see where it goes. >> there's a good transition. paula deen and phil robertson getting dealt with and handled quickly. look at martin beshar that they let walk away on his own. >> no walk of shame for him.

>> they waited a week or so to part ways with alec baldwin. they try to put the fire out before they let you go. >> i also notice had the when something like this happens from a conservative thing, you have the activists rushing to condemn. others rush to defend. i always go back to we have to pick teams. it's never going to be black and white. they're always going to be like -- i disagree with things he said. at the same time i want things to be said than suppressed. it's the only way to have a debate. >> there's an article by a gay writer who make this is point. why when somebody says something we disagree with that's un-p.c.

do we make them go away? he clearly said something wrong, made an apology. we all make mistakes. >> was anything said about what he said about black people? i don't think the did. they're making a business decision for the gay rights community. i'm surprised black leaders haven't lashed out. and also that ae didn't say something about that. >> there's a lot of side narrative going on. politicians political speaker who is have lashed out at ae. they claim to be constitutionalists. there may be political hypocritecy going on. if you believe the bill of right, james madison, 1791.

if you believe that you should be able to say something and then pay the price. >> if ae makes the decision, to them it's bad for them. they can get rid of it. >> my point was not condemn ae for putting phil on hiatus. all he did was state believes. if you're a constitutionalist, you have to say he said his peace, but there's 1200 duck dynasty products and everywhere. >> duck dynasty chia pets. maybe people say i won't buy the products. >> if the government said you must fire him over this or # keep him, that's free speech. he still has freedom of speech. ae doesn't have to broadcast it. >> if i say my true believes oil lose my job. i won't go to jail but i could lose my job by activism and

boycotting. i go back to what i said before. if i said something here inflammatory, it would affect all of you people. you would be angry at me. >> you seem to get away with it. >> i noticed that. >> if i were to do a speech and say similar thing like blacks were better off in the good old days. that would bring embarrassment and shame to myself and affect the show. you have to think about those things. would fox make a decision similar to a&e? >> probably. it's the way you say it. >> if phil said i prefer women to men, that would have been okay. we still live in a world to express sexual preference. he was more graphic. >> when i wrote the monologue, i couldn't say what he said because i would have ended up

this trouble. >> just a medical term. >> they're all medical term. that's what i'll tell the police. >> the producer told me not to say it. >> not to say what? >> we made it through. ahead on the five. barbara walters thinks hillary clinton is the most fascinating person in 2013. somebody shoot me. >> okay. [ male announcer ] here's a question for you:

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we get them. right now back to the five. barbara walters aired the 20th and final most fascinating people final. that's right. it's her last one. out of all people in the world she could choose for the grand finale, this was her choice. >> at the beginning of the show the president of abc told us who should be the most fascinating person of 1993? well i guess he knew a thing or two. this program was born at the start of the clinton era. it appears we may be at the dawn of another. >> i wonder if dreams of 2016 had more to do with barbara's pick than 2013. >> here it comes.

when will you if you do decide whether or not you're going to run for president? >> it's such a difficult decision. it's one i'm not going to rush into. >> if you ran and got president, what would this call your husband, first spouse? >> i don't know. >> i would like you to know i have not asked you about your hair. >> no benghazi questions, greg. >> you know what, i'm fascinated that she thinks she's fascinating. that's the only fascinating about this pick. >> what has she done besides hide? she makes walldo look like a glory hound. this is the gearing up of the 2016 machine. you're going to have to apologize for that tomorrow. >> i'm trying to figure out what hillary clinton did. she was literally on the radars

from the day she said four day americans. that's all she can come up with. you're right. bill clinton, hillary clinton, there's nothing fascinating about her in 2013. probably 2016 might be fascinating but certainly not 2013. >> you don't think she's more fascinating than miley cyrus or kim kardashian? >> why do you think she's fascinatin fascinating? i think she was an excellent secretary of state. she brought eastern europe more into connection with the united states. we've done more in nato, stronger than it was. she made the women's issue in china, made it a bill deal. there were a number of things that were impressive. she traveled -- >> look at the middle east bob. >> has anybody solved the middle

east problems? no. >> barbara walters talked about how with thought obama was the messiah. isn't this hillary clinton gearing her up? >> i think barbara walters can do what she wants. she genuinelilikes hillary clinton. she chose her friend and someone she wants to be president in 2016. if i had the career she did, i might pick my buddy too. >> did you watch it last night? >> i. >> what she did say in the interview. she said it might not be the last one. well you know if it's really popular, we may come back and do it again. >> can i ask you something. if she does run, she had her own version of obamacare before obamacare and it was called hillary care. see what happens when you leave her to her own devices.

it's more colossal. >> this makes you put the obama bashing last couple of months as a cover for hillary. they've already moved on to starting her campaign. it must be great to have the media as your own propaganda arm. you don't have to work. >> you think barbara said that, i thought he was the messiah, no, wait, here she is. >> the interesting thing she will outline the problems facing the country today in some detail. jobs, small business, economy, on and on. that was her own way of separating herself from the obama administration. it was purposely done. she hit the right notes of things she wants to separate from. >> it will be interesting to see her do that with benghazi and

health care. the public isn't giving her the same a ward. now chris christie leads her 45% to 42%. >> that's very interesting. i saw that this morning. i want to see a conservative win. chris is more conservative than her. i'm in favor of. that. the idea she's losing to chris christie is no surprise. democrats are not in good shape. >> would you admit she's likable? chris christie is more likable. you'd rather hang out with chris than hillary clinton right? >> absolutely. >> that's the big issue. >> ahead on the five, someone else's most fascinating show. eric will tell you about that. mitt romney found out he

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♪ welcome back everybody. back by popular demand, fastest seven minutes in tv. fly by one host that loves the segment. miley cyrus may have lost to hillary last night but here she is telling barbara what she credits for huge success. >> why do you stick your tongue out all the time? >> i get embarrassed. i don't know what else to do. >> i was just going to say, are you nervous with me?

>> no, i don't have to do it. >> well, we were waiting for that one. >> she's fascinating. she's got the tongue thing down just right. best i can say. >> move off of that. >> that's all you've got miley? honestly great singer, kind of fascinating to me. am i wrong? >> fascinating? i guess fascinating, you could use the word. her interview was the one i liked the least. she says she gets shy and embarrassed. did anyone see the video performance? i don't think she's very shy. the wrecking ball video doesn't seem shy. >> call her more fascinating than hillary. >> what? >> i'm so grossed out by the situation i can't get to fascinating. >> she puts the [ bleep ] in fascinating. >> you know how i feel about barbara walters -- does she have

naked pictures of -- i'm so tire offhand barbara walters. miley cyrus looks like a teenage boy. >> she looks like a boy. cnn host coming clean about how liberal main strooirm -- main stream media guys are, yes or no? >> there are moments but more to say about that. >> generally speaking the kind of person who is a reporter in washington d.c. or new york city has never worked a minimum wage job outside of high school, has never experienced poverty, is non an -- not like most

americans do do. >> he made a point saying liberals gravitate towards media. once they get there, they protect turf. that's why they hate fnc so much. fnc built their own club. we beat them to death with that club. >> he mentioned you don't hear about the military. you do here. >> he should have submitted his resume some place else. he seems to be on the right page and point about covering all news, paying attention, showing stories of the military and not just showing one liberal bias act. i like that. i applaud him for candor and honesty. >> are you fire aair and balanc? >> i think i am. >> we're an opinion show. >> kimberly is not a reporter. she's a conservative. >> point being?

>> the big surprise that liberals tend to be -- media people tend to be liberal. yes, they do. they go to journalism school. most turn out to be more on the left. that's true. i could come back to the point. if you want to be conservative, be. if you want conservatives to go to media school, they can't get in. >> maybe you hit the nail on the head. maybe journalism schools are liberal. >> of course they are. >> that's not true. >> take a look at columbia journalism. most are liberal. >> that's wrong. >> these reporters should stay away from lunches. that didn't look like a bunch. what did you say that looked like? >> a hostage video. >> you had other reporters admitting every newsroom i've ever worked in has been mostly liberal. you hear this stuff. >> what's wrong with that? >> you battle us everyday. >> it's the media.

it's the public's oj look into what's really going on. they have to be unbiassed. >> they bill themselves as favor. check out this netflix documentary that catches mitt romney when he realizes he lost the last election. >> i can't believe you're going to lose. >> yeah. >> what would you say in the speech? >> by the way, somebody have a number for the president? >> i do. >> okay. haven't thought about that. >> that was sad. his family was sad and depressed and felt bad for him. he was just being a gentleman and saying i should call the president. it was a sad moment for the family. i think they wanted to do great things for the country. their heart was in the right place. i think he would have done incredible things to help the

economy. >> any thoughts at the romneys? >> i felt more sorry for us than him. by far, if you compare the two men's records -- we can't see obama's records. i would love to compare transcripts. he's far smarter, far more experienced. they pegged him as a tax dodging women hating, villain. he was none of the three. that's what we need someone that's competent. >> the washington post headline was mit could have used this documentary. screw you. even if this was throughout, you would have demonized him as the crack pot. this reminds me of the media that portrayed the decent guy as evil and incompetent rue as a savior. >> i sat in the rooms this happened.

the difference wasn't as clos s a -- close as romney. i sat in there listened to my guy do it. it was difficult to do. the reason romney didn't win wasn't because he was such a great candidate. he couldn't connect with people. >> can you imagine having cameras rolling while you just found out you lost? >> we did. >> with cameras rolling? >> sure. >> i'll save for some of that stuff. >> next up on the five, folks in hollywood have their bodies scrutinized by the media on a regular basis. one celebrity has had enough. oscar winner jennifer lawrence has an idea to make it stop. coming up next. ♪ knock, knock, knock on heaven's door ♪ life's an adventure when you're with her.

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and our giant idaho potato truck is still missing. so my dog and i we're going to go find it. it's out there somewhere spreading the good word about idaho potatoes and raising money for meals on wheels. but we'd really like our truck back, so if you see it, let us know, would you? thanks. what?

♪ let it snow welcome back to the five. we all know it's not nice to make fun of someone's weight. here's jennifer lawrence talking about trying to mark that stop at least on television. >> i think it should be illegal to call somebody fat on tv. if we're regulating sex, cigarette on our net works, why aren't we regulating calling someone fat. >> you're laughing. you don't care. >> look. cardinal dolling said the good lord made everyone in their own image. you shouldn't call anyone fat.

>> you should have the right to call somebody fat. >> you can say whatever you want. >> she's in the arts and arguing for the banning of speech. she's arguing to ban something that's allowed her income. i get it. she's young, never had to think philosophically about the nature of free speech. it's an immature mind when you don't like something and say that needs to be banned. that happens with a lot of people. they get upset and says that has to be banned. i don't like what that person says. you don't have to like it. >> i think the hunger games should be banned. skinny people are hungry. they try to put on weight. it's really sad. this is so ridiculous. >> i want to hear you do that a whole hour. >> by the way, someone get her a

constitution for christmas. this is a free speech issue. talk about it during the a block what is or isn't. this is. a block not exactly this. she wants the government to make it illegal to use the word. she can't really do that. >> i think she was just kind of being provocative. >> if she wants to borrow my constitution, she's welcome to. >> anything else. >> if someone is called fat all the time, it doesn't bother me really. what do i give a [ bleep ] about it. it doesn't bother me. >> go ahead. >> she's just getting started. >> if somebody overweight denied a job, i would complain. people use that word. you should see tweets i get about being fat. all these red necks out there calling me fat all the time.

>> when i was working at red eye 2007-2009 i gained 40 pounds. i was doing the show every night. you know what got me to lose weight? viewers calling me fat. i would get 30 or 40 e-mails a knight saying you've got a fat face. it worked. >> it doesn't work with me. i really don't give a damn. i'm sorry. >> you wouldn't be yourself. you'd be weird and scary. and probably cranky. >> what happens in you get caught in a snowstorm, your car gets busted down. if you're fat you can survive longer. >> that's true. >> you can survive without eating but not without water. >> gangsters when shot -- overweight gangsters tend to survive because bullets get stuck in the body fat.

>> not notorious big. bob has advice for elections next year. we'd all love to hear about it. yes, we would. there you go bob. ♪ ♪

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come on it's christmas time ♪ >> president barack obama taking heat over if you like your health insurance you can keep it. many democrats up for re-election in 2014 made similar promises. gop is ready to pounce. the washington post every democrat should be scared in 2014. >> on health care, jeanne didn't tell the truth. more than 20,000 patients have had their coverage cancelled. next november, if you like your senator, you can keep her. >> shaking to that. first of all, learn how to put an ad together. number two, if you're out for health care reform act and voted for it, you can't run for it. it's not nearly as many problems as these guys have. say we're trying to help someone

underinsur underinsured. that's one. they have nothing else. they stand for nothing. they have to take care of right wing and rich people. that's how i deal with it. >> if there's any time to be young, libertarian, sexy, want to enter politics, it's now. young small government minded people should do it. best politicians, bar owners. if you're a bar owner, enter politics. >> go ahead mr. entire democratic party. >> one thing you run on in 2014 you didn't vote for obamacare, warned against obamacare. it's not working and going to cost over a trillion. don't get suckered in republicans. don't bye contraceptive talk war on women, gray marriage, jobs. stay on this.

>> if fact you've done nothing for the two years you have controlled the house, nothing. >> the demeanors have screwed up the whole thing. >> it's not over. republicans have done nothing because they're brain dead. >> i don't see how you embrace this law. nancy pelosi's line was embraced the suck. is that going on a bumper sticker for democrats. >> helping people underinsured -- >> the problem is there's more without insurance. >> that's squat. >> can i tell you the poll that came out today. new york times poll that came out today, 53% of uninsured are against obamacare. >> that's right. >> you had the new york times. go ahead. >> i think this is something they've got to hit hard. it resinates across party lines with everybody. stick with the message obamacare is bad for the country.

>> that's a message to be had. do something to earn your pay which republicans don't do. >> thank you bob. ♪ [ woman ] when you own your own business,

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watch the soldier surprise his son by putting on gear and getting on the football field surprising his son. watch this. >> so he dressed up as a football player from the opposing team. he revealed himself at the end of the game on the 50 yard line. you watch had the emotional footage. they never get old. kg you're up. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> thank you to all of you and the producers for the five. we're sweet while he's recovering from surgery. yes we took the yellow hospital socks. they look like spongebob. he had a tough time recovering. i did catch a smile when we were going to leave. thank you for support and

beautiful teddy bear and balloons that you sent us. that made him happy. thank you to you out there. >> thank you to dr. jackie and her team and vanessa and brook taking good care of him. >> the socks match bob's tie. bob wants the socks. greg, can i be a real loser for a second? do you mind? >> i got a bunch of tweets saying you were on the barbara walter special. watch. >> that's miley dancing at vma dancing with the most creative use of a foam finger. >> that was really disturbing. >> i watched her performance last night with my hands over my eyes. >> you saw me in the middle there right? >> you're famous. >> and fascinating.

that was 15 shows yesterday. that was good. very good. i think that was miley twerking you. here's a good lesson for people that want to rob banks. a guy in texas named larry robbed the bank $5,000, stuffed the money in his pocket. ran back to his apartment dropping bills as he runs. gets inside. when cops show up, guess what, he's all beat up because old larry was robbed. all money was taken out of his apartment. it goes to show you the crime doesn't pay. he is probably a registered republican. >> all criminals are republicans pretty much. they've done polling in prisons that find out otherwise. any way, justin bieber claims he's retiring. i don't know if this is true. i hope it is. take years off and work in a restaurant, something real. >> he would be the worst server

ever. he should work with real people. >> i think it would be sad if he retired. >> we'd never see he and miley cyrus in the same room. set your dvres. we'll be back same time tomorrow. special report is next. senate democrats take on president barack obama over iran sanctions. this is special report. good evening. i'm bret baier. senate democrats are apparently drawing their own line in the sand over iran. more than a dozen are joining republicans on a measure that would force the president to raise sanctions on islamic republic if it violates the nuclear deal with the west. chief white house cor