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that too. don't dig them up. shannon bream in for breath. "on the record" is up next. "duck dynasty" phil robertson is sticking to his guns. robertson vowing he will not give or back off. over the weekend bible study dallas phil speaking out for the first time since making anti-gay comments. harvey levin joins us with the latest. >> hey, greta. >> probably a lawsuit. first we back up to phil robertson's bible study group. what happened? >> well, he, like you said, is he sticking to his guns. he is saying, look, he repeated pretty much line and verse what he said to the gq reporter. he says he believes homosexuality is going to be part of a thing that ruins the country. he said he himself this is interesting sexually sinned
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solved that issue my getting married to a woman and sticking to it if you can make sense of the comment. he said i am who i am. i'm not going to change anything. and the family is completely behind him. you know, greta, one of the things that occurred to me is, is that they suspended phil robertson but when you think about it a&e has got to know his family feels exactly the way he does. so they are sticking with the family but not with phil none of this is making sense with a&e. >> is a&e saying anything? >> well, i am talking to people there. what can i tell is you this they made their decision in no small part because there is a lot of gay people who work at the network. and the ceo of a&e felt how can she ask these guys to work as hard as they do to make this show a success when they are so
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disrespected by the star. the ceo was motivated in no small part by the her employees, also glaad, i'm told, issued a full-court press to get her to do what she did. and, by the way, she is getting a lot of death threats now. >> in terms of suspension, has she ever identified how long the suspension is how does the show continue when you take one person out of the cast where each person of a reality tv show is so critical? >> yeah. i will tell you. this and, again, i had a bunch of conversations on friday my gutted here is that a&e would love to bring him back what i have been told repeatedly is cool down after the new year get back into it. they want things to calm down and then go back to everybody and try to resolve it.
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and, my gut is, that they will they want to bring him back. on the other side, i'm told, on the family side, they think that it looks like the show may not come back you have two different parties viewing this differently. a&e wants to figure out how to resolve this and the family side says it's looking increasingly pessimistic that there will be a resolution. >> just before we went to the air, i do so often i went to tmz come and i learned that there is a lawsuit that is going to be filed by a self-proclaimed member of phil robertson's church what is that all about. >> greta, it's crazy. this guy is saying. he has filed a bunch of lawsuits in the past including lawsuits against apple and all sorts of people. this time he is saying that a&e has chilled his why right to
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hate gays he has the same feelings that phil robertson does. a&e has made it very difficult and that obama is conspiring with a&e in sending out this kind of propaganda. he is suing obama, he is suing a&e. and it's crazy it's just plain crazy. has it actually been filed? this guy claims is he a lawyer. curious, has it actually been filed? >> he has done it before. he has filed numerous lawsuits before. and what i was told was that the plan was for it to be filed by day's end. i couldn't get it -- we did some checking and i couldn't find it in the system, but he is insisting that it will be and when you look at his record, he has filed a bunch of that's lawsuits. i would think he is on the hook for lots of attorneys fees, greta. >> real tree outdoors sticking by robertson. >> real tree is sticking by him. we should say real quickly.
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i think cracker barrel is despicable what they did. and on saturday, they said we are pulling all of the phil robertson images, products that have his image on the cover. pulled them from the stores because they say we believe in equality, we believe that people have a right to be treated fairly, which is great. but then the next day, 24 hours later, they flip flop and say well, we heard from a lot of customers and they are all pissed off at us, we decided we will honor the customers. gee we're sorry we will make mistakes. put the products back. they have got no spine. whatever their position is stick to the position. if you are taking a moral position, stick to it. when it's about money it's painful. >> if you want to go that far. a&e says that suspending but then doing a marathon showing. there real is is competition who could be the biggest hypocrite.
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>> it's not marathon one day. it's a marathon for i think six days. we are talking like seven, eight, nine hours of "duck dynasty." "duck dynasty." i tried to find out on friday how can you do this if phil is this abhorrent how you can put him on? greta, we know the answer. >> for sure, ca-ching, ca-ching. thanks, harv have. >> thanks, greta. >> one of one of the people coming to phil robertson's defense former alaska governor sarah palin. good evening, governor. >> good evening, greta, how are you? >> i'm very well. this is sort of interesting debate that has seized the country. even harvey levin, i have known harvey for 20 years. he is gay. he says that he supports phil robertson's right to say what he says even though he disagrees but certainly has set the country on fire. >> this is becoming a discussion now outside of the legal realm letting
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attorneys define whether it's free speech rule of law or not. and now it's becoming more of a discussion within the exchange of ideas in public and private square and in pop culture whether we're allowed to express our personal opinions without threats of intimidation, mockery and criticism and loss of jobs and revenue. it's becoming a greater bigger issue than what it started out a few days ago. >> loosely use the term free speech meaning that you know, all of a sudden jump someone for saying something and that you jump others -- don't jump others. let people trash talk or not let people trash talk. if the market wants to be such, that people don't want to watch someone, so be it well, that's right. attorneys a legal free
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speech or not. i'm hearing a lot of people start discussing now whether in our especially pop culture venues whether we are going to be allowed without threats of a lot of intimidation to express our opinions. >> it's one thing to express your opinion. do you have any problem about the manners of how he said it we don't talk about it on television much. read the article, gawsk. i think offensive description of it. two ways to say different things. and in the article, i know he is a graphic type god. but do you have any objection on the matters as to how he said it? i haven't read the article. i don't know how he said it greta, doing this in response to a question about a lifestyle that he disagrees with. and yet, he has over and over again, he doesn't hate the person, in a lifestyle
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that he disagrees with. but he, in response, he was quoting the gospel, so, people who are so insulted and offended by what he said evidently what he was quoting in the gospel. that's another interesting aspect to all of this. >> are you surprised by cracker barrel which suddenly appalled and apparently not so appalled now? >> yeah. they were appalled until they realized that, you know, the majority of americans are saying come on, you guys, thicken your skin and, you know, quit being so intolerant of people expressing public opinion and private opinion. and cracker barrel, after 24 hours, i guess, of considering them, what they had done to pull items of "duck dynasties" off the shelf and decided a lot of the population is telling us that we made a mistake it's
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kind of amazing within 24 hours they realized that they made a mistake 24 hours ago pulling items off the shelf and reacting what they did so quickly. >> governor, stay with us, straight ahead, the latest shots fired in that nasty fight over christmas. talk with governor palin next. plus, will the show go on? county "duck dynasty" family refuse to continue without a patriarch? will they end up in a legal fight with a&e? those answers coming up. and you can hash it out with us. who has the upper hand in negotiations or "duck dynasty" fate. a&e or the robertson family? tweet or post on facebook right now using #greta. [ ship horn blows ] no, no, no! stop! humans. one day we're coming up with the theory of relativity, the next... not so much. but that's okay. you're covered with great ideas like optional better car replacement
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christmas eve is just hours away. people are fighting over christmas. in new york. billboard on a heavily traveled bridge. the sign features a question, who needs christ during christmas and the answer, nobody. and in texas, outraged patience accusing a high school of canceling a christmas caroling tradition. they say it's because of the religious references in the songs. the school board says an ice storm cancelled the caroling. back with sarah palin author ths and great joy. protecting the traditions of christmas." before we get back to your book, the fight over christmas. and when people are going to be able to express
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themselves and they are not. your thoughts? >> there certainly is a war on christmas it's the tip of the spear on war of greater issue. that is expression of faith and being able to live out the faith or no faith at all. any faith that a person would choose. there certainly is that war in our culture today i write about that in the book. >> why? why do you think that war is there? >> i think that people are offended, some people, the idea that we are all that. we are not the center of the universe. and we fallible. mistaken man, we should be serving something greater thanself. our world would be a lot healthier, peaceful safer place if we were all to be more selfless and served something greater thanself, ie our greater. that idea is offensive to a
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lot of people. especially the elites who kind of control much of the media, much of politics because they do think they are all that they think they are the hope, the change, the answer. they can create utopia when most of us are humble enough to admit that man can't do that. we are so fallen that we need a savior. we need something to look to for strength and hope and peace and joy. and a lot of us look to god for that. >> there is room for everybody. why people are jabbing each other, you know, for having a faith is beyond me. there really is, you know, room for everybody. and, yet, for some reason at this time of the year people decide, you know, to come out and jab people i just don't get it they waste a lot of money like that billboard. how much money do they spend on trying to upend christians or anybody who
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believes jesus is the reason for the season. why don't they spend that money on helping the needy and helping the poor that was a waste of a resource. >> that is not a bad idea. your book, there are recipes at the back of the book. this book has a little bit of everything. recipes in the back also quotes from president ronald reagan and martin luther king. but it also gets very personal. in one part of the book, you write very -- about a very personal time in your family's life, with bristol. and you talk about, you know, being able to sort of admit your wrong. >> yeah. i think that is some of the heart of christmas being humble enough to admit that we are not all that we don't have the answers. that episode that i was reflecting upon when bristol came to us to tell that's she was going to have a baby and todd and i argued over what should she do next i
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thought she should get married, todd says there is has been enough trouble piled on her plate, let's not encourage heaping of more trouble on her plate. we argued about tnd arealized he was right and he was right. humbled myself and told him that and reflected upon that in the book that again has humbleness of jesus being worn in a manger and not as some lofty king who came down amongst privilege and in your face kind of lecturing of everybody else in the culture in which he was a part of. and much of the spirit of christmas has to do with being humble enough to accept that and have that child like faith to know that it was real. what stood out to me in the book is that you and todd have a disagreement and argument about. this obvious in the book painful and then you write when bristol's son arrived he melted into my arms and
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melted my heart. my girl it given life to this little boy in less than ideal circumstances he turned our little world upside down and for the better. >> yeah. he sure did that's just a small episode in our lives the case of bristol having a baby. but it's turned in to be part of our foundation of our family and a very important part of our life. and, you know, when i consider that people all over this country are facing such challenges, greater challenges, than, you know, unwed pregnancy, being, a contribution to their family's foundation. but people facing such challenges, greta, they need encouragement. they need empowerment. the book reflects a lot of how it is that we can feel encouraged and empowered, again, by humbling ourselves and looking to something beyond self- >> do you know how i read that? we get ourselves all whooped up about problems.
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and then it sort of unfolds. as we sort of come to terms with them. you used the term, of course, showing mercy as painful meaning that when you and todd sort of worked it out, is that, you know, if we would just sort of ride through it, sometimes we make a bigger problem for ourselves and in the end we might be a little bit enriched at the other end of this. >> we always do, i think. for the most part, when something hits us and stops our world from spinning for a moment there, you know, we think that it's the end of the world you can look back on the episode and realize if you sought the greater good in that episode of life, you do find out that it can be used though it was in less than ideal circumstances for a greater good, to help your family, your business, your community, the world become a better place if you you have the right perspective on what these challenges are. >> there is a lot more in the book. around christmas as well as the soup kitchen and
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everything. also the mary chris moose chely recipe is recommended at the end. brand new book. thank you, governor. >> thank you so much, merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas to you. a&e who hats power and the law. a legal look at the future of "duck dynasty" first. and first it was young people. then it was mothers. now who is the latest target of the obamacare pr machine? you will see it yourself coming up. coming up. ♪ when it's time for resolution, all across the state. move here, expand here, or start a new business here and pay no taxes for ten years... we're new york. if there's something that creates more jobs, and ows more businesses... we're open to it. start a tax-free business at startup-ny.com.
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the future of "duck dynasty" is up in the air. phil robertson's family saying they cannot imagine the show going forward without their patriarch. is that decision really up to the family or could they
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land in a legal mess. steve joins us. good evening, sir. >> happy holidays, thanks for having me. >> same to you. >> so i take it that there is probably something called a moral clause in this contract both ways. they usually in these entertainment contracts. how do you define morals. does it mean moral we don't like your opinion? >> not exactly. even though this is a bizarre situation, it's very simple. a&e's perspective is if they have a morals clause that is very broadly drafted, in which it is is, because if they want to get rid of him it's like an at-will contract, goodbye, phil, you are fired. versus if there is a reverse morals clause whereby phil has a morals clause in his agreement with a&e, that allows him to actually rip up up the contract if they do something bad. so, essentially, it's, you know, it's all contract as you know, it's a negotiation. this is about money. >> can you say a&e i assume
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it's a morals clause. almost always is in these kind of contracts. can you say a&e waived it by virtue of the fact that even after they suspended him they continued to air him over and over and over and over again on these marathons? >> absolutely not. i would argue no. it's a broadly drafted agreement. i have seen enough of these where it's essentially you can do something bad and they can get rid of you. and so i would definitely think that it's broad. so they're going to. >> i can't imagine that because the whole idea of a morals clause is that you have said or done something that fully embarrasses us so we no longer want to be part of you or you have done something that we believe is immoral. how in the world you can stand on that argument. how could a&e stand on that when making like they can't put them on the air enough now to get every last squeeze, every last dime out of this? i can't imagine that they would be the least bit
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sympathetic or believable, a&e? >> i don't think they are. i think essentially they are going to say you did something that we exactly didn't want to be affiliated with we don't want to be a part of it. goodbye. and i think from phil's stance, he is going to say well, not yet. >> i would sue for breach. i would sue for breach on the spot for having done that let me ask you another question. >> sure. >> if they change the name to "duck dynasty" to duck hunting, because i assume a&e holds -- owns "duck dynasty," if -- at the end of their contract, they could just move it to another network and call it something else, right? they don't own the reality show themselves more the name not the concept? >> no, no. they will hold the intellectual property. intellectual property will be everything subordinated with. this if there is any type of theme, slogan or anything associated with. this they can't shop it over to someone else and them pick it up. that's a huge lawsuit waiting to happen. >> all right. well, i'm going to go dig a little deeper on this. i think a&e has waived any
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ability to get rid of robertson on a morals clause because they are making, you know, they are not scandalized by it and i don't see how they could possibly invoke it as a breach of contract. the obama administration making another last minute and secret move. the latest is next. and holding . it wasn't just about me anymore. i had to quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven o help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. chantix didn't have nicotine in it, and that was important to me. [ male aouncer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal tughts or action while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these, stop chantix
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now get ready to speed read your way through the news. first israel, the speaker of israel's parliament rejecting reject lawmaker's request to publicly display a christmas tree in the building. the speaker dealt lawmaker he could put the tree in his office and the parties' conference room instead. a government spokesperson insisting the decision had nothing to do with israel's status as a jewish state. he says displaying the treerthon
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january 7th would just be too long. now to massachusetts where rescue crews saved a dog from the icy charles river. crosby was trapped by ice and unable to make it to shore. firefighters and police suited up in cold water gear and swam out to the dog. they pulled him to shore and dried him off tonight crosby is reunion nighted with his family. china dennis rodman leaving north korea without this time meeting with dictator kim jong un. the former nba star saying is he not disappointed. he was only in north korea to train a basketball team. now it the latest fallout to the giant credit card breach at target. angry customers in several states filing lawsuits against the retailer. they allege target failed to implement and maintain reasonable security procedures when credit and deb wit card data for 40 million customers was stolen. target says it is hearing very few reports of actual fraud but closely monitoring the situation. and that's tonight's speed
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read. attention shoppers extra shopping day not for christmas presents but for obamacare. obama administration sliding in another rule change before the holiday. deadline to sign up for health insurance was supposed to be mid night tonight now consumers are getting a 24 hour extension. joining us our political panel "fortune magazine" nina easton, washington examiner and joe trippi. nina, first to you, we get an extra day. >> we get an extra day. as we see all of these delays and exemptions come forward, i think back to the consultant's report that came out, it was done back in march, it portrayed obamacare as almost a southeast the pants kind of operation. they there were evolving requirements, evolving models, evolving deadlines. that's what we are seeing right now. this comes on top of this rollout of hardships inflicted on americans, they described as hardships, the white house described as hardships and the latest one right before today's delay being the people who lost their insurance are being
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given an exemption and a delay, a hardship delay to move forward. >> susan? >> and, in addition to that there are people who tried to sign up and made a good faith effort but weren't able to do so by the deadline, it be today or tomorrow, to may or may not be penalized. they have been real squishy about this because they know some people tried to get on the healthcare web site and got, you know, the error message. so they are trying to -- they are not sticking really to this fine, if you don't sign up on time. they say if you made a good faith effort. pushing it out how are they going to determine whether a person made a good faith effort or not. you see the lines are getting blurred about when you have to sign up, what the deadlines are going to be. it's because this thing is kind of a mess. so they have to have everything slide into the future in terms of what the deadlines are going to be. >> let do you clean up on all of this. >> look, they did have a million people hit the web site today. and all theyly are doing okay, if you came in today and were part of that surge, you get one more day to complete the application and
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complete the enrollment. i think given the hardship, that people have been can as i would or didn't have it and this would be the first time they get it, this one makes sense. >> i will tell you what was really annoying to me i got the center for medicaid and medicare services press release that they just issued today. i have got it all highlighted and it says, as of 2:00 p.m. today, we have seen approximately 850,000 visits to healthcare.gov. that's fantastic. >> yeah. >> except for one thing they sure get the numbers out fast when they are good. kathleen sebelius couldn't get us the numbers on time. how is it suddenly they can get us numbers so fast? to me, actually one of our gretawire bloggers pointed that out. >> that's one of the big complaints with them. they should have been transparent with us from the beginning. >> watch go from -- they watch it go from 50,000 to it 100,000, 800,000 and to a
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million actually today it looks like, we would have seen that progress. instead it's spotty and they can't come up with it until they want to. >> i feel like they are pulling a fast one the whole time when they said they couldn't get us the numbers. that is what bothers me. just tell us. we are big girls and boys it he will out. the real political problem they are facing in the future is it possible that we have fewer people insured in 2014 than we did in 2013 when you start looking at the lagging signups and you combine that with the number of people the 5 to 6 million plus dependents who have lost insurance and the potential that some companies come open enrollment period next year decide they would rather dump people on to obamacare and pay the penalty. >> panel, stay with us, we have got to take a quick break. straight ahead, directive or offensive, new ad targets gay men.
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together to make a christmas wish come true for a terminally ill little girl. 8-year-old delayney brown wishing for a huge holiday sing along and she got it. >> please sing louder so laney can hear you. she wants to hear you sing. >> the little girl also got another wish, and that was she video chatted with pop star taylor swift. and another pop star giving holiday shoppers a big surprise. been say showing up at a massachusetts wal-mart to do some shopping and promote her new album. that's not all. the generous singer giving shopper as little rock star treatment. >> for everyone in the store, right now, the first $50 of your holiday gifts are on me. [cheers] merry, merry christmas from beyonce. >> beyonce spending $37,000 to make several hundred customers very happy. that's what we're watching tonight. coming up, wait until you
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♪ get enrolled ♪ get enrolled. >> not everyone is happy about the ad. the republican log cabin republicans are not. is it effective ad or offensive or something else? our panel is back. lucky joe you are first. >> it's probably all those things. it's got to be try to get the videos to go viral or something. i wouldn't have made that ad we are talking about it and we need people particularly in the gay community to be talking about obamacare and signing up. >> i guess if they are young that would be a double though. >> i guess. >> it doesn't appeal to me but i don't think i'm the target audience. >> are you sure? >> pretty sure. >> susan, your turn. >> this is not the first time we have seen an ad like this aimed at young people. remember, there was one the keg stand, the young man bouncing on the keg talking about the need to sign up for obamacare. then the woman holding the birth control pills and
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hugging the man saying at least i have my free birth control pills, i hope this guy is as easy to get as birth control. >> somewhat insulting to birth control. young people aren't going to sign up because of catchy ads. the problem is the cost. is that they are not making enough money to buy this health insurance. >> we minded by this. in case they forgot. >> still going to log on to the web site and see your premiums hundred dollars a month. that's the bigger problem. i'm not sure viral ads are going to help them get past that. >> as you rightly point out, i think they are trying to be too hip by half. this isn't the first time they have done it. i found it offensive. i thought the log cabin republicans were exactly right it was a raw stereotype of gay man. what if you put sexually charged 20-something women in tight bikinis in an ad trying to encourage them to sign up, people would be furious. >> they would come out and say. >> yeah. >> the one with the woman holding the bitter control,
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i thought it was a spoof. i literally thought someone is making fun of the healthcare law, it was actually real. so, i think they are trying to be catchy. >> this is not the obama administration putting this out. let's make that very plain. >> no, pro-obamacare. >> you have got a lot of different groups out there making these ads. i'm sure the obama administration wouldn't have made this one. >> yeah. i just wanted to make that point very plain, it wasn't taxpayer dollars by the obama administration cath leone sebelius. i wanted to make it plain on that one. panel, stai stay with us. we have much more to talk about. here is one you have to say see to believe. imagine getting a ticket for washing your own car in your own driveway. that's what happened to this young man. check out the confrontation with the police officer in driveway. >> your neighbors don't like. >> you that's not my fault. >> it is when [inaudible] goes against the village ordinance. >> such as? >> such as doing any kind of
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work here. or scaling things like washing the car or things like that you are not allowed to do. >> on your own property. >> that's it. >> what are violations washing the motor vehicle in a public place. this is a private area. private residential property. >> this is a private home. >> okay, that's what you say. still in public view. >> do you want to get the deeds to the house? it says it's private? >> it's a private area. >> turns out this guy lucked out in the end. he did not get a ticket. you be the judge. is it the best use of police time to ticket people for washing their cars or is it a total waste of time go. to gretawire.com and vote in our poll. coming up, benghazi, national security advisor susan rice got heat for tv appearances where she blamed the attack on a video. now she is taking to tv again. wait until you hear what she says about benghazi now. that's next.
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okay, everyone, it's time to hash it out. george zimmerman racked up a lot of legal fees during his trial. he has found a way to pay them off. george zimmerman painting sells for $100,000 on ebay. blue image of american flag covered in words of the american legion. he promised to hand deliver the portrait anywhere in the u.s.a. the price rose from 99 cents to $100,000 in one day. she is the material girl in instagram world. madonna posting this picture on "saturday night live." she moved her seat and pulled out her phone. instagram must really be invogue. do you have a list of problems with washington? you are not alone. today senator rand paul tweeting a list of grievances they include i
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. more after a year deadly attack ben imeaz. susan rice taking to tv again. the former u.n. ambassador saying she has no regrets about making the sunday talk show rounds. five days after the attack. >> i don't have time to think about a false controversy. in the midst of all of the swirl about things like talking points, the administration has been working very, very hard across the globe to review our security of our embassies and our facilities. that's what we ought to be focused on. >> we are back with our political panel. joe, a lot of controversy about benghazi. she says though that it is a false controversy. >> well, leslie stall said something that was pretty interesting in the interview. she said if it wasn't for this controversy, i would be addressing you asthma dam secretary. that's what just call me sue. but i think, you know, it's
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this inability to understand that there are people who still have a lot of questions out there. she didn't want to seem to try to address them at all. i do think that, look, the administration for five days, nine days or whatever said it was the video and said we are wrong, it was terrorism. and i think that's what she is talking about the false controversy. there is deeper questions that they still haven't answered for people that i think she didn't get to in that interview. >> they are missing a whole bunch of important issues about benghazi. why wasn't there security there in the first place? why wasn't there security at the time of the incident? why weren't questions answered right after. why was the investigation so, you know, vacant after the incident? all of these things have not been answered. and, the administration has continued this stonewall congress about. this now, congress has gone after them, doggedly, and i think issued subpoenas and they really tried to take control of this.
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and the administration has resisted this investigation. and they are really important questions. i mean, four people were killed. our ambassador was killed. and it is just still hanging out there as to why we left them basically defenseless there. the interviewer here didn't tackle that at all. it was more or less do you regret what you said. do you regret the talking points? what about the larger issue about security and how we reacted in the aftermath. >> larger issue to come back after this, was the administration taking the terrorist threat seriously? and when you look back, when you blame it on an anti-muslim video, sort of a spoofy video, that suggests that you are not taking terrorism seriously it wasn't about security at the embassy. whole host of other questions. broader political questions. i think she is falling on the sword for hillary clinton and the president. i thought very interesting as joe brought up, she was very defensive when leslie stahl said we would be talking about you asthma dam secretary now. there is no doubt that she not john kerry would be the secretary of state now and
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there is no doubt that this -- she couldn't get confirmed after this and that's why she is not the secretary of state. >> you know what was hardest for me why don't you just tell us what happened. you know, i understand in the heat of battle you have got to make calls and you can make the wrong calls and 2020 hindsight think i should have done this, i should have done that they had time to think about whole video story and they kept pounding. what about that? panel thank you very much. tonight, 150 u.s. marines on the move spain to africa, they are prepared to go into south sudan if the state department demands evacuation more u.s. citizens. hundreds of americans have already fled the violence plagued south sudan a nation at the brink of civil war. so, let's all go off-the-record for a second. an election year 2012 i was south in south sudan with reverend franklin graham his organization samaritans first has been doing work in south sudan and has been doing so for years. we were invited by south
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sudan's president to his palace for dinner. during the course of that dinner, the president said that he had very much wanted president obama to succeed because of the president's african-american heritage and he was deeply disappointed with president obama. at the time of our dinner and for months and months previously sudan and south sudan were vicious feuding over many things including oil. the president was not happy that he had not heard from president obama. that is until shortly before our dinner. only after the president surprised the world and suddenly turned off the sudan oil fields which then according to the president prompted for the first time a personal call from president obama. president obama asked president ceer to turn the oil fields back on. the president in his conversation with us accused president obama of only calling him for president obama's only political purposes. the president said that china got a good bit of its oil from south sudan. when the president turned off the south sudan oil
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fields, china was forced to go to the international oil market to buy oil which then drove up the price of oil on the international market which then caused the price to group here in the united states and president emphasized this was during president obama's re-election campaign 2012. the president accused president obama of caring north about foreign policy problems but only about his own re-election. now, a word of caution. i don't have the obama administration's side of this conversation, but i am merely reporting what south sudan president kir told us. that's my off-the-record comment tonight. if you have an important story or issue you think i should take off-the-record go to gretawire.com and tell us about it thank you for being with us tonight. now i have a reminder for you. if you are just getting home and turning on that show that starts at 8:00, what is it again? i have forgotten. oh, "the o'reilly factor." pick up dvr recording now and record each night. never miss on-the-record. the reason you want to watch
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