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for on the record. you can go to greta wire and have a conversation with us. so good night, merry christmas and happy holidays. "the o'reilly factor is on." >> women with women. men with men. >> and it is for their perversions. >> no apologies from "duck dynasty" star. the reality show family breaks his silence and says he won't back down from his anti-gay comments. >> there are a bump of things that we have been taking a look at and i am going to be making appropriate adjustments once we get through you this year. >> president obama's biggest failure. also his biggest achievement? why can't it be both? a new poll shows how divided americans really are. >> i would say this is the worst of the presidency.
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>> i am standing up for something i believe in. >> plus, how to survive the far left loons who hijacked a dinner conversation. >> don't interrupt me, honey. >> caution. you are about to enter the all greg zone. "the factor" begins as soon as i put my arm down. i'm greg gut felt in for bill o'reilly tonight. "duck dynasty" fiasco. that's the subject of this evening's talking points memo. right now businesses are figuring out how to handle the relationship with "duck dynasty." do they cater to their customers or do they bend to the ache at this vises and what are phil robertson's views on homosexuality? does it really matter? seriously if you think homosexuality is an evil sin? where do you go with that
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reeducation, education, acceptance? that's the point. robertson never linked his opinions to actions. he said what he felt, not what the world should do. and there is a difference morsz know gay and straight people who find these beliefs ignorant. either way we are in this boat together, ie earth. let's dewith these differences unsavory or not smearing any group right left or whatever creates something edgier than equality. exemption from civilization. if you see short people as investor men, expectation of decency for everybody. about getting a seat at that table which all of us sinners deserve. a welcoming place among family which is a mace thing around the holidays. that's the memo. now for the top story. reaction. joining from you san diego, a great place. gina lowden and with us in studio kennedy, covered in glasses, hols of the new show, it's a great show the
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independence on the fox business network kennedy, i'm going to go to you first. cracker barrel pulled the "duck dynasty" product. then they pulled them back. should they make up their minds? what's going on here. >> they are terrified. that's unfortunately what happens when you get mired in issues like this instead of having a civil and interesting discussion about it you have the outrage police on both sides. just trying to outscream each other. now we have made the strangest allies of phil, of course, and alec baldwin? >> yeah. isn't it weird? that could be a good thing. the fact that people might be getting tired of all the faux outrage and let everybody talk no matter how idiotic their beliefs are let them talk gina, the fact that a&e act sod shocked by robertson's comments seemed a bit of a stretch to me. how did they miss that he was religious? >> yeah. i don't know. because i can honestly tell you i have never watched a full episode of "duck dynasty." can i tell you that i have seen videos of him
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preaching. i don't know how any missed it. and i think this is all beginning to look little bit. there was such an opportunity for real conversation and dialogue here. and instead of that they are just trying to outrage each other and when you look at the fact that a&e, for example, over the the ran a 35 hour "duck dynasty" marathon, i'm questioning how ashamed and outraged they really with r. by robertson's actions. >> that's a good point, kennedy. in a way it seems to me like robertson is winning this because a&e is hurting their credibility by suspending him while playing, what, 35 hours of the show? >> yeah, maybe it's like you, you know, people know this is the very last they will have of phil. so they will tune n droves. people are so desperate to see the entire family together one last time. in that sense, it's pretty brilliant marketing and, you know, they didn't fire him. that's what everyone has to realize. they but the him on indefinite hiatus.
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even ho even know what is that means. who knows that is contractual wording or something that sounds really important and urgent that will make, you know, one side happy for a little while. >> i had indefinite hiatus. i went to a doctor. took four weeks. >> put in surgically. >> surgeon call mask. if phil robertson was spouting maybe something -- some kind of pro-socialist agenda, do you think there would have been this kind of outcry? >> no. i think that tolerance really only goes one way in this country with the politically correct crowd. i think you are right about a&e kind of really capitalizing on this whole thing. but i think like this. if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, greg, it can also walk off of a&e and be $500 million or whatever it is show with or without a&e. i think a&e better take that -- take note of that because a lot of people their entire identity of a&e is phil robertson and "duck
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dynasty." what other shows can you even name that are on the network? >> if it walks like a duck. >> were you going to say, walks dead like a duck? >> shoot it walking like a duck it will be shot. but we are in a world kennedy where words are seen as hurtful actions. >> that's the dangerous part. >> words are deeds. >> and they aren't. >> contrary to the crucible. >> a r. they though. what we say so hurtful can we truly malign and wound other people. you know, ask mel gibson he had to go to rehab so did michael richards. maybe that's where they went wrong they apologized. and in the modern era, it seems like the person who apologizes last gets to stay in office or in power or on tv. so maybe phil is right to stand his ground. i don't agree with what he said but yonk that's the point of the fallout from the "duck dynasty" tragedy 2013. >> yeah. i think the message i get is
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something -- it's not a first amendment issue. it's a repressive tolerance issue. it's that these companies react in fear of what might happen if activist groups target them. not about -- they don't think about their fans. they think about fear. gina, i have a question for you. you said you don't watch "duck dynasty." that's what i find so interesting about this is that if you didn't have "duck dynasty," no one would know who fim robertson is. so he is not really that obtrusive. he is not out there walking the streets, screaming his beliefs. >> right.sty" and a&e knew exactly who "duck dynasty" were before they ever brought them on. i think what a&e their miscalculation. i thought they were going to have a honey boo boo and make fun of this hill billy family. america might watch honey boo boo to laugh at that family and that's a little bit sad. america watched "duck
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dynasty" because there was something that they related to there and something they miscalculated. >> they relate to the hair. >> and the beard beards rule in 2013. >> that's true. beards are coming back. >> ladies, thanks a lot. still ahead, you don't have to be famous to have the world turn against you for offensive comment. we will tell you about the tweet that got the internet all riled up. plus, how can republicans capitalize on all the failures of the obama administration? there are so many. dana perino with her perky point of view moments away. stick around or i will egg your house.
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in the impact segment tonight, after all the chaos confusion and broken promises, yet another adjustment in the obamacare rollout, due to technical difficulties, today's deadline to sign up for health plan, if you want it by the new year has been extended yet again until tomorrow. just to show what you a great thing it is, over the weekend, the president
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himself enrolled, a symbolic gesture at best since his medical care will be provided still by the military. mean time a new gallup poll shows americans are split on the health cair act with 36% saying it is the president's biggest failure. while 22% see it as his greatest achievement. the other 42% apparently were drunk. joining us now from washington, fox news political analyst juan williams and here in new york, fox news contributor deneen borelli, author of the book backlash. i want to go to you first, juan. my guess is you are going to say it's going to get better. that's what i tell my wife about my snoring and it's been 8 years. do you believe it's going to be better even when you say so? >> yeah, i guess i do. i think ultimately it's up to what the insurance companies do with regard to their rates in the middle of next year. what kind of premiums the people who are not directly imacketted. people who haven't been in the independent market, how do small businesses relate. we will see how this plays out. that poll to me is fascinating. i mean, 50% of republicans,
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greg, say that's obama's biggest failure is the affordable healthcare act. imagine that 50%. 40% of republicans say they can't name anything that he has accomplished that's worthy of, you know, some acknowledge many. they don't think he has accomplished anything. that tells how divided this country is. >> yeah, deneen, in this poll they called it his biggest achievement. >> and others called it his biggest failure. why can't it be both. essentially the success for one side is failure for another? >> the whole thing is a massive failure. hard working americans, this is a losing game because millions of americans are losing their health insurance and it's playing out in the polls, obama's credibility, his trustworthiness. americans are tired of big government getting in their business. government needs to get out oof the way and these poll numbers indicate that people are tired of big government. >> juan, the president
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finally enrolled in the healthcare plan. he chose a bronze plan, which i thought was kind of nice. better later than never? >> well, yeah, i mean, you know what? i don't understand because as you pointed out his healthcare is taken care of. the government takes care of the president. and, you know what? this is another example of where i think we are engaged in so many kind of kabuki wars here. is he enrolling to make a show that he is willing to participate in the plan and to make a show of this. in fact, people who have money like that, this is not what we're talking about. most americans aren't impacted by this unless the insurance companies jacked up the rates. >> juan, are you kidding me? 6 million americans are lost their healthcare coverage. it's estimated that 75 million will lose their employer-based insurance coverage next year. how you can say that? snows numbers are staggering. >> >> no. 7 a to 80% of americans get their insurance through their -- >> -- is this what the white house told you when you met
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with them last month? are you kidding me? >> deneen you just said 6 to 7 million. >> have lost their insurance. >> that's private insurance. they were happy with their insurance, juan. why do they need the government telling them what to do? this is america. >> deneen, you are going way off point. >> no, i'm not going off point. >> you just said most americans, clearly most americans are not impacted by. this i said 6 million. >> that's true 6 to 7 million. >> that's a big number. that's next year's estimate. >> again, what we have here is most people who had their policies cancelled. >> how you can defend the undefendable. it's aer. >> you can speak for a second? >> i'm telling you of the people who have had their policies cancel, 6 to 7 million you are talking about. >> they were happy with their insurance. that's what you are not hearing me. >> okay. can i finish a point for once? >> go. >> i just wanted to say to you that those 6 or 7 million people most of them have gotten new policies under the obamacare plan.
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>> here is what i find really interesting is the obama people. how they screwed up. they are constantly trying to change the plan. they have extended the deadline an extra day. >> changed the rule on everyone. no one has any idea. it's christmas eve tomorrow. you people really want to be trying to log on to get health insurance when they already had it. >> all right. you kids. i'm going to have to break you two up. >> thank you. >> juan, a good point though, when you keep looking at the delays and all the changes in the exemptions, it's more confusing than a finch foreign film. overall impression of the program. if you look right now, americans are down on obamacare rollout has been such a if i failure. what you see in terms of all these changes that the obama people keep making, they try to. >> can i finish? >> they keep trying to create more options for americans. and you would think that
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people on the republican side would say well, gee, that's what we want. >> this is a republican. this is common sense. obamacare is not working. it's harming hard working americans and government needs to get out of our life. that's what i think. >> i think it's making you obsessive, deneen. >> got the white house talking points down very well. congratulations. >> i don't have any talking points. i'm trying to say americans know. >> it's common sense, juan. it's not working. >> the status quo is not desirable. with high premiums. >> it's a failure, juan. >> let me tell you, 30 or 40 million americans with no insurance. people can't afford their prescription drugs. that's failure to me. >> good luck with that. >> this is just like christmases at my house. [ laughter ] >> it's amazing. or an episode of moan liewght. -- moon lighting. >> don't throw the cranberry sauce at the old lady. >> i would never do that. >> thank you, juan and deneen. directly ahead, how should the administration take. dana will stop tweeting
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pictures of her dog and analyze. how to protect yourself from far left loons at your dinner table. that when we come right back. leave now and i will have you arrested.
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ed in the unresolved problem segment tonight, the president and his minions have given the g.o.p. the grand old opportunity. see what i did there? with all the controversy surrounding the obamacare, fast and furious and benghazi to name a few. the next election cycle should be easy for the republicans but they could just have easily blow it. they have before. here now with analysis, my partner in crime from the five. dana perino. dana, thanks for taking a from making toys for santa. let's say you were going to run for office as a republican. what would you run on and
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how? >> let's be clear that i am not running on anything. >> you are running from things. >> do i think that 2014 is a good year for republicans partly because of calendar and partly because of the states that are in play. but then i also have been given this gift of the state of the country, the mad of the country, but obamacare and healthcare, that is really the linchpin going forward. >> yeah, but okay, you are going to have bob beckel does this to us all the time on the five. when you talk about obamacare, trrp but you have no ideas. so how do you respond? >> that is the democrat talking point. they are going to say that until the cows come home. so i think what republicans have to do is remember two things. these races are local and state races. you have to be there in the state. you have to show up. you have to work on that media and you have to say to them i know he says i have no ideas. i have some good ones, i think you are going to like them. give me three minutes of europe time and i think i can convince you. once you have their attention and you can start talking to them in a common sense sort of way, you are able to at least make them think that maybe voting for
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a republican wouldn't be such a bad thing. >> yeah, i feel like the moto should be really simple. anything is better than obamacare. and give us a listen. where do you find good candidates? where are the republicans looking? because it seems to me the big question here is new blood. and obamacare has created a wide open space the size of kansas for new candidates, young people, attractive people, libertarians, conservatives? >> immigrants. >> immigrants to take part. where do they find them? >> well. how do they do it? >> candidate recruitment is a special tool. like a head hunter finds the best people to work at an office building. the same is with a candidate. if you are going to run for correct me if i am for -- congress or senate. you want somebody with experience. races are expensive. you have to think they have to be able to articulate a thought. not being crazy also helps in some of these in some of these races and being able to communicate with people. where are are you finding them in the republican party
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can you find them through small business owners who have seen their lives totally change. also, returning military veterans. like tom cotton in arkansas who run senate from the house and he has a good chance of winning. >> going to the small business piece, the best people i think that should be running are people who run bars. because it's a small business and, they have to be a politician because they are dealing with people every day. and i have never met -- i have never met a small bar owner or restaurant owner who doesn't know what's going on. >> that's a great example. when the customer walks in you are like greg, how are you? you want one of those little shirley terms, right? >> yes. shirley terms. i like the greenadine. >> it's memorable. >> little cherries is like a meal for you. >> it really is thank you very much. you rot person. pat tomby was owned two bars in allen town, pennsylvania,
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decided to run in the mid to early 90's and just kind of like as a side hobby to his bars and then he turned out to be a great, i think a great leader because of his experience dealing with people. >> you can understand also why some people are hesitant to run. look at what happens to people who put their toe in the water and they get eaten alive by the sharks. you have to have a strong confidence and ability in your family to say all right, dad, mom, we are going to stick with you through. this no matter what i understand could've skeletons are going to come out of the closet. u. have to be prepared for that to happen. we are starting to turn a corner realizing anything have you ever done is now going to be front page news. once you can get past that and if you say to somebody you know what on healthcare, i think that healthcare should be sold like car haturance, you know the car drive you crazy with all those commercials, i think healthcare should be the change. change the way we do subsidies. more like food. use competitive market to bring down food prices and
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subsidize the poorest. i think the same should be twriew healthcare. those are the kind of things and nalings people understand. >> also an element for much needed optimism or just -- >> -- he yes. people want somebody with idea. they want somebody -- people will say that they want people in washington to get along and to get something done. but i think that this year that people are looking for a healthy dose of reality. >> um-huh. >> they need people. people are willing to hear right now that the government is not going to be the answer to all of their problems. and, in fact, government often is becoming the source of all of their problems. and people shouldn't have to worry about their government all the time. they shouldn't have to talk about it every night. so much obamacare for example has given to us to talk about. and there is hope that in 2014 can you turn it around or else we will be living with this nightmare all. it will be the vain of our existence. front page of every newspaper every week there is some sort of disaster with the national health system. we don't want that in america.
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>> obamacare is actually the greatest libertarian opportunity. it's like going to a libertarian college for five years because it is the best lesson in bad government. the question is, how do you find people to articulate the alternative? they have to be young, vibrant, good-looking, libertarian conservatives and they are out there. >> they have to show up in their district if i was advising a candidate i know it's exciting to go on cable news tv all the time and all the channels, including this one. you have to focus on the media in your district and all the ways to communicate. if you look at the demographics of facebook and twitter. all of those are trending so that all age groups are getting their information that wait a minute you don't have to just go to your local newspapers. there are different ways to communicate. show up. go to the meeting that no one expected to you go to and try to explain obamacare. if there is going to be ugly scene town hall that ends up on youtube that's fine. accept it. >> plus you get free donuts. merry christmas. >> i thought you were going
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to say happy halloween. >> oh because you are wearing orange. >> plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. when family and politics collide over the holidays, you will need a survival guide. and that's straight ahead. plus the internet goes wild after a 30-year-old p.r. executive fires off offensive tweet. we will tell you about that next or later anyway. we hope you stay tuned to those reports. if you don't, i might break down in tears.
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in the personal story segment tonight, we have all been there. sitting around the dinner table, trapped by the relative who must talk politics but has no idea what he is talking about. the left likes to think it's always the crazy right wing uncle who hijacks the holidays. it's usually that idealistic left wing college kids who come man deers the conversation right before asking you for money. what to do? well, joining me how comedian tom with insight on helping you to survive. do you have plans for christmas or is it the ymca again? >> do i have plans. great to be here mr. o'reilly. great to finally meet you. >> excellent. president obama told people to bring obamacare up during the holidays. >> did you see the pajama boy they have? >> yes. >> this is the worst thing. they want people to stay in pajamas until mid afternoon. that is a shame. how are we supposed to be
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productive country if we are sitting around sipping hot chocolate. it's disgusting. >> oh my gosh. >> i'm surprised that upsets you most. >> the fact is, he is saying to introduce politics into your holiday conversation. would a republican ever think of that? it happens but we have to watch out for it greg, do you remember the old phrase the personal is political? >> right, yes. >> that's been the rallying cry from the left for about 40 years. >> right. >> it really is personal. that's what you have to remember. if you are right of center, remember that the people who are sitting around the table who are democrats or leftists or liberals, whatever you want to call them. they take it personally. now, we don't. politics to us is like a toolbox. we put our tools away and then we come to dinner. >> yes. >> think of it this way, to them, politics is like armor that they wear around all the time. >> right. >> and it's heavy. and it chafes. and it makes them irritated. >> yes. >> and so when you bring up politics, they immediately their armor comes um. they are like transformers
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you say something about obamacare and they are like -- the guns come right out at you. >> that's so true. >> we are not ready because our tools are in the closet. >> exactly: and if you actually bring up something that you saw on fox news they get angry. >> i have some phrases. these are phrases. if you want to stay engaged you don't have to lie to them. you don't have to agree with their democratic policies. can you say things like this. when they say something you say that's interesting. i hadn't heard that that works. >> because you are not lying. you hadn't heard it it's absurd. >> exactly. >> how about this one? >> send me that link. i would love to read it. >> that's fantastic. they never send you the link. and if they do you put it in the junk file. that's fine. >> exactly. >> my favorite is wow, you don't hear that on fox news. yeah. because you didn't hear it on fox news. you neglect to tell them what what they are saying is absolutely untrue so why would they put it on the news. it's idiotic. >> when you say something you saw on fox news they get upset and ask if they ever
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watched it they never have. sometimes they have a few drinks. this is what happens around the holidays. they sit around and hate watch fox news. they watch it just to get their ire up. that's what happens. that's what these transformers do. >> do you ever talk politics or do you stay away from it completely. >> i do stay abuy. like i said, i like to -- you like to listen and i nod my head a lot and i say well that's interesting. that's an interesting perspective, you know. because the thing is, you are not going to sell anyone. you try to change people's minds, and like the obama boy in his pajamas, they think they are going it change minds around the holidays and they are not. why bother? and if they call you names, sometimes they get personal and if they say you are a racist, then you just, you you know, you kind of compliment the food you say like well, you know, if being racist means i love your pumpkin pie, then i'm guilty. that's very interesting way of going around it. >> generally someone calls me racist around the dinner
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table i punch them. >> no. complimented whatever food they brought. just say well, you know, i may be racist but i love brussels sprouts. >> best thing to do is when you are sitting there and you have got football on while he they are talking politics. you start turning up the tv. turn up so you can't even hear them. >> i turn up the tv and then with my back i turn down the dimmer of the lights. eventually in a dark room with a loud tv. >> that's fantastic. have a good christmas or whatever you celebrate true story about heroism and survival after a daring navy seal mission goes hocialgably wrong. we will talk to the real actual lone survivor
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thanks for staying with us, i'm greg gutfeld in for bill o'reilly. in the factor flashback segment tonight, you may remember the harrowing and heroic story of marcus, a former navy seal, the only survivor a ill-fated operation in afghanistan in 2005. where 19 memps lost their lives. well now hollywood has caught on and a movie based on his story and starring mark wahlberg will open in select cities on christmas day. bill spoke with marcus when his book lone survivor was first released and asked him to describe what his mission was that day.
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>> we were a four man recon team. sent in for a capture kill mission. to go in and locate high value target with ties to usama bin laden. recon area. and monitor his activity. >> where were you exactly? >> afghanistan. we were in the mountain range. >> did you cross to pakistan. >> no, sir. we were on the border. >> okay. so you are looking for a high valued al qaeda guy, right? >> yes, sir. >> okay. you know where he is because you got intelligence. there is four of you that go up and, you know, people not familiar with the geography, you are in rugged mountainous terrain, wet, difficult. you engage the enemy. how did that happen? >> we had been self-compromised by goat herders. we had to relocate around to get a better vantage on our objective. and, when we did that, we kind of set ourselves out, villagers and goat herders
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walked on us with their herd. gave us a soft compromise. we relocated. we turned them loose. about an hour later, a whole militia. >> knew you were americans, you took them into custody had to let them go. they went back and told the bad guys that you were there and then they hunted you? >> yes, sir. >> and then was it -- tell us president fire fight that ensued. four of you. how many of them? >> over 100 is our best estimation. fire fight started right on top of the mountain. we were 20 feet off the high ground. we were set up in a triangle formation. my lt. was right below me. he gave meet signal. i was 2 meters off the peak. i took the first shot. i initiated the gun fight and from there they just -- they had us on our front and then they started coming down our flanks. we had nowhere to go. we couldn't push up. the train terrain was way
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too sleep. they covered our flanks so we had to go down and they pushed us into the valley and down -- actually, towards the objective that we had been watching. and we just -- there was too many of them and we were running out of bullets. on their high ground when they were running down it was relatively flat. because, compared to ours, it was a logging area, there was a lot of trees cut down and laying in there, bolders and stuff like that. they had us in a pin. about half way down they incircled us with 350-degree pin. anywhere we went. any time we tried to get up to the high ground or push back up the mountain, they launched on us with rpgs and ak. >> these were professional fighters. they knew what they were doing and only four of you and 100 of them and three other seal compatriots got killed in the action, right? >> yes, sir. eventually they succumbed to
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their wouch one shot multiple ts and still fighting event actually wore down. >> how did you get away? >> -- mat and myself tree provided cover for us, he and i sitting underneath that he had been shot in the head, i was redressing a bandage that he had put on his head and rpg came in our direction and knocked both of us out. from what i remember knocked both of us out. me over the side of the. >> you actually fell off the mountain? >> well over -- it the terrain, sir, it wasn't straight down, there were intermittently cliffs in between yeah, kind of blew me off of a bolder type hill. >> and they thought you were dead and they left you there. >> no. they didn't see me. they couldn't find me. i think it's about that time that the helicopter had been shot down, sir. so when i came to, i was
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upside down and paralyzed from the waist down. i crawled into the side of the mountain and wenged myself into the rocks and covered myself. pulled rocks over my chest and stuff like that. just sat there. >> all right. we got 30 seconds. how did you get out of there? >> how did i get out of there? particular position or how did i get out of there completely? >> out did you get out of there back to balgram? >> the army rangers and oda and seals, it was a combined effort, sir. along with the villagers that had rescued me. >> so actually afghans rescued, the pashtuns rescued you, right? >> yes, sir. they saved my life. >> they saved your life? >> yes, sir. >> interesting. i wish we had more time but i'm going to recommend the book "lone survivor," it's amazing story. >> hell of a story. still it come. the tweet that record of the p.r. executive fires off offensive tweet before boarding a flight only to have her entire world change by the time she lands.
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that story in a moment.
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in the back of the book segment. the tweet that roared. a 30-year-old pr executive on her way to south africa for a christmas vacation fired up this little gem before boarding the plane. quote, going to africa, hope i don't get aids. just kidding, i'm white. well, she was fired before the plane landed. she had no idea what was going on. joining me now from los angeles, the ceo and founder of the rap.com. media and entertainment news website. sharon, i probably would've fired her, too. if i was running a pr company and said something that crazy, i would fire her. but the thing that bugged me was how it happened online while she was in the plane, she had no idea that twitter had exploded.
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her name was trending. it had to do, i think, with buzzfeed coming out with -- calling it the worst tweet ever. what did you make of this whole event? >> the whole thing really kind of horrified me. i have to say. the whole idea of mob justice taking matters into its own hand and making justine's tweet the object of global ridicule is deeply disturbing to me, i have to say. and i really think it's social media at its worst. social media's a wonderful tool. it has changed the way we communicate and connect to one another. as justine sacco learned to her pea peril. one moment of thoughtlessness can spiral out of control and impact your whole life. and that's what happened here. but the idea that she's up in the air unable to explain herself and there's this mob
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that's spinning into this global movement with a hashtag, meaning everybody's sitting around waiting for her plane to land so they can watch her be ripped to pieces, essentially in the public square, which we do now digitally today. >> it creeped me out how millions of people enjoyed it. i get the fact that legitimately people can be really angry about that tweet. i'm not even sure what the tweet meant. i thought she was trying to do this white privilege ironic thing. >> i think it was a joke. i have no idea. i haven't talked to her. you know, i know her professionally, kind of peripherally. she was the pr spokeswoman for iac which owns expedia, the daily beast and companies we cover. . but she's never explained herself. she did apologize when she recovered from her shock, i think. >> yeah.
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could you imagine? that's the thing i keep thinking about. imagine getting off a plane and finding out the world hates you because you typed maybe a dozen words flippant comment. again, i still believe she was trying to make a comment about how aids is selectively hurting africans. and she tried to be snarky and was stupid. where does she go from here? >> i think she -- if i were her and i were a pr adviser to her, which she could use some good pr advice, i might continue to apologize and maybe go volunteer for an aids organization, something like that to show you're really serious, you understand what it is that you did that was so hurtful and offensive to people. she was kind of doubly unlucky, i would say, without justifying her remark or apologizing it in any way. she was doubly unlucky in the sense that, a, she had a small twitter following that included a lot of people in the media and then got on a plane where she
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was offline for 12 hours while all this was occurring without her knowing. she p couldn't respond. >> thanks for coming on. up next, the way you can help our most seriously wounded veterans this christmas season. back in a moment.
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finally tonight, how you can help our wounded vets just in time for christmas. first, an inspiring story of grit, determination and success after a terrible turn of events. in 2006, sergeant major jesse acosta from southern california was hit in the face with a mortar round in iraq. a 34-year vet, he lost both eyes, had his jawbone shattered and suffered a variety of other injuries. while healing, he was given massive amounts of drugs and became addicted. it took him four years to get clean. he now sits on the board of the independents fund which is
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raising money for wheelchairs for other badly wounded vets. >> sergeant major jesse acosta, when did you know you wanted to be in the military? >> my father was a world war ii vet and i would hear his stories. i decided very young i would join the military and did right after high school. >> where were you based? >> my first home station was ft. lewis, washington. >> when 9/11 happened, did that affect you? >> at that point in time, i was stationed in los angeles and that's when all the deployment started. we were stationed known also as camp anaconda. >> at what point did you face enee enemy fire. >> it was nonstop every day. since we landed, the c-130 would not stop and the chief saying we were under attack. that's all we can do is just
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immediately took cover in bunkers. that day, january 16th, when that bomb landed right by me and took me out, hit me on the left side and hit me in the face and took out my eyes and my jaws. >> can i see you without the sunglasses? >> yes. i have extensive reconstruction done to my face. they did bone graphing. >> did you have a big support system? >> when i came home, i had no support system whatsoever. i think that was very hard. from germany, they shipped me to walter reed. i never saw anybody, to be honest with you. >> that's troubling. >> i was asked one time why wasn't i eating my food in front of me. and i told them what food? >> do you feel you were
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neglected by the medical professionals at walter reed? >> at that time, yes, absolutely. a couple of my staff from the old unit, the medical unit i belonged to, they flew in out of pocket to take care of their old first sergeant back then that was actually my first support group and the only support group i had. >> what type of opiates were they giving you in california? >> i remember having still morphine pills, vicodin, percocet, codeine. >> how long were you taking these narcotics for? >> i was taking those pills for four years every single day. i came to realize this is out of control. i just opt to finally cold turkey stop. i would love to go back to palo alto v.a., and tell them, look at me now. >> what's next? >> we're going to go out and
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second shot, see if you can get on the green. >> all right. >> how did you get introduced to the independents fund? >> back in 2007 when i was going through all my surgeries and whatnot, i get a call if i wanted to partake in the cycling eve event. i said why not. >> are you a fan by any chance? >> oh, yeah, he's been tremendous for us, the independents fund. thank you, bill. >> if you would like to help severely wounded vets, go to the independencefund.org. you can get any of bill's best sellers for free. and speaking of books, you can preview my book of "not cool." do it now and you'll meet the mid-february rush. this is it tonight.
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remember, the spin stops here because we're looking out for you merry christmas. i'm bob beckel and kimberly guilfoyle, eric bolling, dana perino and greg gutfeld. and this is the five. ♪

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