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question, how many different ways can you get the fox news channel? the answer more and more ways every single day. >> the future. >> faster and cheaper. >> bring it on. >> we are in the age of innovation. >> when everybody goes to a global market it flur rishs. >> want to go to mars? >> mars 1 invites you to join us. >> is this a good idea? >> plastic guns you could make in your own home. >> this ought to be stopped. >> politicians are also threatened by money they can't control. >> mid coin is the first decentralized digital currency. >> will technology prevail? >> we are talking about something that could change life as we know it. >> innovation, that's our show
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tonight. >> now john stossel. >> all right i take it for granted. i take it for granted i can press a button on my key chain and start a car and to find out how to get where i am supposed to be doing by gms system talks to me. i don't even think about that as being special any more. i take it for p granted i can cook my foods in minutes. but disabled people now have better ways of getting around. so what innovations are coming next? james canton should know. he makes his living as a futurist. he started the institute for global studies. so what is next? >> what's next is robots that clean your house and also find businesses and new customers for
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you. also maybe you will piggyback on the hyper loop and selling trends and tickets through e-commerce. what's next is nanotechnology, computers, robotics, really the limits are unlimited. the barriers are not even there for the entrepreneurs of the future. >> so you mentioned the hyper lube. let's not assume people know what you are talking about. this is from this entrepreneur elan musk who you are impressed by. he has done good things? >> absolutely. this fellow is really has the cna of silicon valley. the it was the first commercially available electric cars. he is doing something right. >> let's break this down. the stock is going up. but you work for steve jobs.
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he is getting government handouts for a car that cost 60 to 100,000 dollars a toy for rich people subsidized with 7,000 dollar tax credits from not so rich people. >> keep in mind he didn't really need the loan from the government. he did pay that back. he's also a first innovative break through was pay pal. he was an early pay pal envent tore. he had people lining up to invest. the reason the stock is going up is because they are telling more teslas that is they can make and keep up with mvring. so it may be a rich man car today i drove one recently and i can tell you they are coming out with a new suv model half in
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price. a lot of innovations whether computers or robots you name it the internet starts out being expensive and the mass market takes over, numerous enter paren newers end up innovating and that price point comes down, down, down. >> you are saying they are selling all of these cars 21,000 teslas is all they sold. kia sells 2 and a half million. that's 130 times more scar cars. inc. this is a government subsidized scam for rich people. >> it may turn out to be that. but for all intents and purposes i think he has bipioneered a ne way forward. his next car will be half the price. i have seen models of it. it is very interesting. you are right. let's see if he can deliver. >> spending their own money unlike government spending other
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people's money. explain hyper lilly. it is a vacuum tube for humans? >> they will be tubes, if you will, but think about them more like cars where you are going to have folks inside of a capsule and it will move very quickly like a bullet train through a system that may give you accelerated speed that is safe and quite frankly they deliver the price tag is $6.8 billion. >> the california san francisco train is already up to 100 billion. >> that's correct. he could be creating a new category. he is testing waters. let's see how she does. >> maybe the government would or couldn't bui
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could build the rockets to bring people out of united states. maybe it was nasa that got americans to the moon but that was nearly 40 years ago. in the remaini 40 years they haven't done much. an enter paren newer offered a prize 10 million bucks to any one who could launch men into space twice within two weeks. one company quickly succeeded they spent much less than nasa spent. they invented technologies to make launching rockets much cheaper and makes money doing things. >> space x continues america agenamerica's mission to supply international space station from u.s. soil. >> why is this a break through? >> i think the private space industry represent space itself as a commercial opportunity represent tremendous new opportunity for entrepreneurs for new products, new services, certainly jobs. and being developed invented and
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deployed in the united states. they invent a new industry. nasa can be a customer from space x. >> not just to nasa, but quite frankly they have got other government and private sector organizations recognizing gee we would like to take a look at how we can commercialize space. lots of folks are looking at space tourism, such as virgin galactic and other folks. in this case i think with space x he has demonstrated he is eventually moving toward commercial pay loads i think it will open up a whole new category for commercializing
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space. >> you can make certain products in zero gravity you can't make on earth. >> when you talk about computers doing more. ma that i cans me think about watson the ibm computer that went on jeopardy. >> this is watson. >> can a computer beat the best humans? >> pitting an ibm computer systems against the two most successful celebrated players in history. watson cleaned their clocks. >> who is michael phelps. what is staggering genius. >> you say we are going to soon see robots that act like doctors? >> well, i would like to have the best decisions made about my health when i go to the hospital, wouldn't you? that's what watson is trying to do to be a decision support enterprise to help doctors and hospitals make better care decisions that are going to
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relate to whether you should have a certain drug or maybe you shouldn't. >> i hope we do show it is possible. we have been talking about and have seen rockets launching into orbit. what if you want to go much further, maybe to mars? that will supposedly be possible in ten years. >> from now on we won't just be visiting planets, you will be staying. >> inhabitants wanted for mars in ten years? yes says the enter paren another who started launch 1 who plans to land people on mars by the year 2023. come on. it sounds very ambitious when you first hear it. when you realize the difference
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trying to get pro mars back to earth then you realize why that is really what makes it possible. they have technology to send e humans from mars back to earth. they get them in the earth orbit fly them to mars and keep them there. >> people are signing up. 165,000 people and paying actual money? oo i think people have been waiting for this for so long. you said it. it has been more than 40 years since they walked on the moon. not much has happened since then. >> all of the people pay a fee. $38 from it the united states. >> that's right. not all 165,000 people paid a fee. the fee is a selection round where people self select am i good enough? >> you really go there to live so you are a mars inhabitant. you will be trained sefrnl years
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before you leave it will be your job for the rest of your life. >> you based it on the economy of the country you are from? >> we don't want to finances it through application fees. we make it so people have to ma think about it. it is enough to have to think about it but not so much. without the fees how are you going to pay for it? >> we were getting to know donations from all over the world. we talked about individuals who are interested in supporting us. >> donations not government funding? >> we have nothing against it but as soon as government give they want something back.
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we don't want governments to involve who we are sending to mars. >> thank you very much. i hope you succeed. coming up you can print a gun at home. special correspondent, kennedy checked that out. >> also dictators are over thrown with the help of social media like twitter. how can libearians use social media to explain liberty? that's next. >> you are one of those libertarian folks. isn't that so cute? [ male announcer ] when mr. clean realized the way to handle
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john: in >> liberty. limited government, work it allows prosperity and it's great. people don't get that. how do we convince them? matt tried. he runs freedom works. they run facebook posts like this one alerting people to the fact that congress passes bills without reading them and exempts its own staffers to the law. that post was seen by 2 million people that's not unusual for freedom work posts. judy posted youtube videos will
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b liberty. they were viewed by hundreds of thousands of people. why did you start doing this? >> i started because i care about freedom and liberty. >> back it up there. why do you care? >> i want to be able to do what i want to do sonas long as i do harm another person. i found out about it through google. >> you were a conservative. >> actually a neo conservative. i am embarrassed about that fact. >> through the internet you read about libertarianism and said i want to help spread this movement? >> i know so many young people who are politically apathetic. i am not conservative they would say they care about war and the last always talks about taxes and spending. where do i fit? i want young people to decide i am a libertarian. >> you noticed this youtube thing that said i can do that? >> i started oo youtube channel
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in my room by myself. i didn't know anything about technology. i didn't have much money. i just put a youtube channel up. >> and a few people would watch and more and more. >> how many more? >> you start off pretty slow because you have to build up. a lot of people watch it i don't know why but they do. >> let me show you another sample of her work. plenty of americans including me are not that angry about the nsa spying. here's is a part of a video that julie did that has gotten more than 100,000 views. >> when did the government become a jealous girlfriend? i need to know who you are talking to at all times so people have it in their minds that oh privacy, that's for terrorists and cheating boyfriends. we all have things we want to keep to ourselves or with a small group of people. when government is snooping, you lose choice, control and freedom. >> people watch that and they can respond on youtube and there are confer vatioversationconver.
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>> yeah, actually i responded to you on twitter about the nsa. we had a bit of a debate because you said that wasn't a big deal. i think it is. i am not doing anything wrong i shouldn't be treated like a criminal by my own government. >> for the record i don't like it i just had a hundred other things i hated about my government more. >> i do, too. >> you have a think tank. you want to explain liberty to people spread the ideas. in the old days you might have paid a lot of money for an ad. you could have lobbied politicians. you got new options now. >> i think the internet changes everything and it really decentralizes the way people get their information, it lowers the barriers to entry when you think about what's going on on washington, d.c. and all of these incedsiders sneaking arou behind closed doors. we can share in a moment's notice and the people are engaged in a conversation that
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used to happen with nobody noting. >> you do a lot of it on twitter. you mentioned tweeting me. how is that a conversation? that's just a couple words. >> twitter is a conversation. there are people on our staff that don't know how to communicate beyond 140 characters. maybe that's a problem. the old think tank problem is we would write 40 page peppers that nobody read nobody saw. this is a way to engage people and you start with the tweet, you have a conversation, but at some point you start to dig deeper into the idea of liberty. you start to read, at some point maybe you even reed the 40 page paper. >> you have some 21,000 twitter followers. you have 130,000 at freedom works. just by yourself 20,000 people. now some of them are not fans you get some hate mail? >> definitely. there are a lot of trolls on the internet that post comments.
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people that are not libertarian are paying attention to my videos or twitter accounts they may learn something. >> that's the goal. and for people out there you have tips on social media. >> don't over post. we found that three times a day produces the highest level of engagement with activists. think about the multiplier effect. of the people you touch all of your friends are engaged in the conversation. there are about a billion people on twitter. we as libertarians finally have that opportunity to potentially connect all of the people that share these basic values in a way that is effective and in a way that lowers their cost and engaging people. >> on this show i am trying to learn how to use social media and on the bottom left of the screen, about here, there's this thing called a hash tag. in this case it's innovation. this means you that are watching the show can use the hashtag to talk to other viewers about how
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wrong i am or how wonderfully insightful we're. any one in the world can connect with that as they search the hatch tag innovation. why is this a big deal? >> all of a sudden everybody in the world on twitter about a half a million people can connect if they are following that phrase innovation. you can have a conversation with people who didn't know they believed the same things you did until we had that opportunity. >> twitter has links so if you really want to read the milton friedman he can help take you there. >> it is a gateway drug pretty soon you are watching human action cover to cover. >> i couldn't get through human action. new things to do like escaping inflation. even reviving your favorite tv show after it is canceled. cancelled
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john: i hate to it that my government steals per roll hall? >> i hate when the government steals my savings. i saved every year but what does my government do, it prints more of the things. so many more i fear i may have to pay for retirement with something like this. billion dollar bill, b, billion. okay, our dollar hasn't been devalued this much, but i am worried about my future. how can i edge against invasion and other government manipulation? one thing i did was to buy bit coins. >> they are digital coins you can use them in every country
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your account cannot be frozen. it is changing finance the way the web is changing the nation. >> how bit coins work is hard to get your brain around. heefr >> first thing you have to understand is bit coins are not owned by a company. they are not controlled anybody it's a new internet protocol like e-mails or the web. it allows you to exchange money with anybody in the world without the use of a third party. created anonymous there is a
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limit on the total number automatically? >> the total number of bit coin that will ever exist is 21 million. it will get there around the year 2040. that makes it inflationary currency. there's no central bank that can make more of them. >> how do i know some clever kid won't make a million bit coins? >> because of krip to go fee is the answer. until the i vengs of bit coins if i want to send you $100 we would have to use something like visa or master card or pay ball. they would make money from my account and add it to yours. everything would reconcile to zero. we transact with nobody between us. why would we do that?
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because these are central points of control for government regulation. we may want to engage in a transaction that is frowned upon or prohibited or i would want privacy. >> and the government could still find out about it? >> ultimately they may be able to find us and punish us but they can't prevent that transaction from taking place in the first place. >> they may find us if we get something shipped in the mail they may be able to follow the mail. there's this web site silk road where people are buying illegal things, drugs. >> that's right. silk road is a dark web site. it is protected by inscription nobody knows where it is. they make about $20 million in sales a year and you can buy just about anything with silk road using bit coin. >> they won't sell guns. >> they won't sell anything that harms anybody. they won't sell child pornography or guns or anything of that nature.
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>> and we agree that drugs only harm the users sometimes and personal choice, but what do you say to my wife who says this is not good? one reason we have government is to protect people with this kind of stuff. >> i think law enforcement is going after silk road and probably will be successful in my opinion. bit coin is not completely anonymous. you have to understand criminals can use cash to accomplish the same thing. actually, silk road is a drop in the bucket with the total drug rate. there are things frowned upon that we want to engage in. >> if you wanted to get a mental health screening you didn't want your employer to know or your spouse to know you could use something like bit coin to do that. honestly if you wanted to
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contribute to wikileaks if you want to make a contribution to wikileaks as an american you can do that. master card banks of america froze wikileak's account and didn't allow you to contribute to them. if he use bit coin nothing can be done there. >> the regulators now say we are going to regulate this stuff. >> what's interesting about this stuff -- >> you have gone to meetings. >> they cannot regulate the bit coin network. they can regulate users and businesses that facilitate the transfer. if you and i wanted to exchange dollars for bit coin we could do that without any intermede air rebetween us that the government could regulate. >> i should point out one government has made it clear it used bit coin as a legal alternative currency and that is germa germany. >> put down your sauerkraut what i will say is going to blow you away. it made profits from bit coin.
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>> what does that mean? >> parliamentary in germany asked the banger to give a ruling on bit coin. they said what they expect them to say it is private money. that legitimizes the bit and allows them to start thinking about the tax implications. we haven't seen guidance from the irs but we will see it pretty soon. >> they will say it is okay. >> i think they will say it is okay because private money has been okay in the u.s. traditionally. when you think about berkeley bucks or brooklyn bucks it is private money exchange it is the capital gains they are worried about. >> i bought some i look at the price of bit coins since they have been introduced. i wish i had bought them last year. they would have appreciated a great deal. lately they have been going up. who knows. thank you, jerry. up next, i asked kennedy to go to texas to check out the guns that you can print in your home.
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printing guns makes people nervous. rvous.
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>> just press print and out pops an iphone case made from nylon 18 carat gold ring and rebracha of a multi-million dollar violin. >> you have heard about the new 3-d printing that let's you print things right at home. some remarkable things. >> the team of engineers have developed a 3-d printer that could dispense human skin to hepburn victims. an engineer successfully built a 3-d printed car. >> wonderful except 3-d printing upsets the people if you can print a car you can print a gun. in texas tony wilson did just
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that. he called his printed gun the liberat liberateor. kennedy went to visit him. >> this is the functional liberate tore without a barrel and without a firing pin. when you pull the trigger the hammer strikes. >> there it is. that is the 3-d printed gun assembled before our very eyes. >> can i shoot it? >> yeah, let's do it. >> i am going to back off. you pull the trigger when you feel like it. >> 3, 2, 1. >> it didn't work? >> it did not work. it felt like a bad april fool's joke. >> why are you holding the gun in such a strange way. >> funny you say that. my gun wbrother was a gun instr. he would kill me. that gun is so unstable he told me to hold it as far away from my face and body as possible so
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the nail didn't go in my eye. >> he was backing way off. >> yeah, which freaked me out. >> they have worked in the past these printed guns he made. he got 9 shots sooff one of the before it broke. >> he said that's the most he ever had. you don't get a lot of bang for your buck. >> the buck is only $50 in materials it will cost and this will get better. it shows anybody can print it will soon be able to print a gun at home for 50 bucks. >> that's what he wanted to do with a simple printer in a small space he has changed the debate. >> he did give you another weapon partially printed and that did work. >> i shot a gun with 3-d parts. look, ma. my ma would be so proud. >> there's a magazine on that gun that holds 30 bullets. some politicians want to ban these but what does a ban mean when you can print one? >> this magazine is cheap to
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make. some political programs are prohibiting this. it is no longer effective. >> it threatens people because it shows so-called gun control is an illusion. you ask for reassurance about that he said this. >> i am not there for that. i am your full service provocateur, right? i am not here to make you feel better about it i am here to say this space is occupied, deal with it. >> he is a libertarian? >> a krip toe an ark kis which is an anarchist who is good at computers. >> from what i saw trying to shoot the liberate tore the ar 15 parts the parts that are banned that will be the practical popular application you will see more people printing parts of guns they cannot get. >> cody isn't secretive about sharing his discovery. he put the plans for the liberate tore on the internet. the state department oddrdered m to take it down. by then 100,000 people
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downloaded it. so the plans are out there. government can't stop this. that upsets politicians and liberal pundits. >> this ought to be stopped. >> we will all self govern ourselves. without government we can move forward into an anarchist utopia with plastic guns that sometimes blow up after one shot. it is a political effort to try to do away with government. >> he is moving the discussion forward. you can't shovel the toothpaste back in the horse. i am trying to keep it clean because this is a family show. >> since he was the first to do this you asked him if he was worried about being arrested? >> whenever you hear sirens do you assume they are coming for you?
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i do. >> we have had real situations of surveillance with cops sitting out of my apartme knowing we were being sur veiled. it is something you accept. when they want me they will get me. >> he is doing whatever he can to stay within the law. >> why would he go to prison? what law has he broken? >> guns are bad. they will make new laws to make sure whatever he is doing is illegal. >> thank you, kennedy. coming up, how innovation let's us even on our own little phones. find out right here how government wastes our money. government ♪ i want to spread a little love this year ♪ [ male announcer ] thisecember, experience the gift of unsurpassed craftsmanship and some of the best offers of the year at the lexus december to remember sales evt. this is the pursuit oferfection.
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>> my biggest fear for america is politicians will spend us out they grab more than 3 trillion a year we can barely keep track of what they spend. can innovation help us here? yes says adam. he started a web site called observe the books.com. >> at open the books.com it is our mission to post on-line every dime taxed and spent at the federal state and local level. >> in 2006 there was a google your government act that said hey this stuff has to be out
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there. >> that's right. nonpartisan legislation it was tom coburn the senator on the right and illinois senator at the time thbarack obama they go together and posted the federal checkbook. that's the data re downloaded ee roaring niezed and up loaded in for the checkbook. >> that was enough. they didn't make it easy to sort through it. >> we think we have reorganized displayed that data to help regular people in their home town in their zip code to see the massive money flows coming out of washington, d.c. when you see the massive amount of federal spending in your local the most common response is i am in the wrong business. >> you tried to figure out your local. you live in illinois. before this it took 26 separate freedom of information act requests to find out what your city manager cost taxpayers? >> we explored one village
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manager. it took us 22 separate requests in illinois you were able to find bureaucrats that make more money in every governor in every state? >> i called them the lucky 3,000. collectively at total tax payer costs unbelievably they clean off the billion dollars a year. it is part district administrators out earned the state directors. it will school district treasurer out earn the state treasurer. managers are out earning every governor of the united states. >> it is administrators out earning every governor of the 50 states. >> thomas moras general council of the school system makes 229,000 base pay. william volt manages the mass transit in champagne county
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286,000 dollars a year. he says i deserve some money. >> public service in illinois is being corrupted. volk has tripled in pay. this mass transit got $16 million worth of federal grants. you the tax payer are subsidizing nearly 300,000 pensionable salary for this guy. >> maybe he deserves it. he can argue it. at least we know about it and can have that argument. >> there has been policy change on salaries in if illinois. we highlighted the school district treasurer a year ago. his pay went up in one year. last week he was just indicted for allegedly stealing
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$1.5 million. >> they always want more. you checked out subsidies near your home town. you found a lamborghini dealership that got a 1 and a half million dollar federal loan then shut down. >> i would feel better if i was driving one. >> a rolex driver got 3 and a half million for the spa. >> this is the kind of legal but stupid spending that needs to be reigned in. >> only because of technology like this we know the farm subsidies are going to rich people like ted turner and michelle bachmann's family. >> here in new york city half a million dollars flowed into the rockefeller family. >> you have this map that shows all of the people outside of this studio within five miles there are no farms here but they are getting farm subsidies. >> we find this in a five mile radius here in manhattan.
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what is this is about are wealthy investors who made farm subsidies in government programs part of the investment plans. >> this is your latest thing on phones. >> i am asking citizens across the country to feed their zip code into the free app open the books and see where the federal government is spending your tax dollars. >> something for you to do. and thank you, adam. good luck. see what happens with that. coming up, some fear new technology. i am more fearful of something that stops it. stops good things like this. i will explain next. ♪
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>> the novel 1984 scared people. innovation and technology might lead to government spying on us every where, in bedrooms. big brother can watch. but now we have learned that in real life the nsa might already be listening. >> that phone in your pocket right now might be a government spying device. >> scary. new technologies can be abused. but the fear of innovation is often ridiculous. the media whales that the internet will make us stupid, that it will kill serious journalism and kill creativity.
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>> technology we are making a lot of creativity with the technology dependence. >> the down side of the internet. the only news delivery system we have ever had that has no editor. >> it is true but stop whining. overwhelmingly innovation brings us good things. dude anywhere in the world i can put this piece of class tick into a wall and money will come out. i take it for granted but it is amazing. the count is always accurate. government couldn't do that. government can't even count votes accurately. instead government often gets in the way of new technology. i cannot drive this wonderful car to work because government regulation won't allow it. government regulators delayed driverless cars and stifled those wonderful web sites which allow people to make money by sharing your house or your car.
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and regulators ban wonderful things like prediction markets. they shut in trade down. by contrast private innovation is this miracle we don't even think about, ebay and countrying's licountryin craig' list and facebook. we take free encyclopedias for granted now. we don't think about the miracles everyone had access to all of the world's knowledge on a phone. if you wanted to find out if a product or restaurant was any good you had to with ask a friend or look for a local newspaper reviewing it. you go to web sites like yelp or urban spoon and you know instantly much more. want to be a hollywood producer? proud funding allows you to get around the once all powerful tv shows. when veronica mars was cancelled the star went to the internet. >> this is a chance to make the veronica mars movie happen.
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>> they made enough money to make veronica mars movie. >> now spike lee and adam corolla will fund their own movie. when i was a kid it was a big deal but expensive to call someone far away. >> don't let the new friends get away. a telephone call now and then will bring them closer. they are waiting to hear from you. now for free we can do video chats all of the way to the other side of the world. the internet has even helped people find love. >> when you want to find someone who is truly uniquely right for you. >> a university of chicago study says 35 percent of new marriages now start on-line. in a free market a symphony of desires come together and they are met by people who constantly wrack their brains to invent solutions to our desire. this innovation is wonderful. i rarely fear new technology.
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i fear government getting in its way. let's not let it. that's our show. see you next week. good night. i am harris faulkner. huckabee is next. >> tonight on huckabee. a failed obama care roll out and a broken promise that you can keep your doctor. and lowest approval ratings of his president so. but the bad news for the president means good nows for the republicans in scott brown on the political landscape tonight. >> last-minute changes are making insurance companies to accommodate the president and his law. what surprises lies a head. >> the catholic church

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