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fbi in seechlt 970 in tampa. k how in denver, colorado. start your unafraid. greta goes "on the record" right now. this is a fox news alert. police now warning a a road rage killer could strike again. an urgent warning just going out to drivers up and down the east coast, police specifically warning. this the potential for additional incidents of similar nature is anticipated. those chilling words scaring drivers and provoking what is now being described as multi-state manhunt for a killer who executed a 28-year-old driver on a snowy highway. robert hicks told us just how dangerous this threat is. trooper, nice to see you, sir, and thanks for joining us. >> sure, you're welcome. thanks for having me. >> in terms of this manhunt, trying to catch this man who shot the victim alongside
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the road in pennsylvania, do you have any identifying information about him, what kind of truck he's driving or anything about him? >> at this point in time, our biggest piece of evidence is the vehicle itself. currently looking for a dark colored, possibly a ford ranger-type pickup. this vehicle should have some damage to its driver's side. possibly driver's side door or driver's side front quarter panel. also our victim's vehicle was silver in color, so we are thinking that there might be some silver paint transfer that should be on our suspect's vehicle as well. >> do you have ipses? i know you can't give out their names. i'm not asking that. do you have eyewitnesses that actually saw the shooting? >> at this point in time i can't give you those types of details due to the sensitive nature of the investigation: i can't really discuss that at this point. >> all right. i have read the update report and it says among other things, it says that
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there is potential for additional incidents of similar nature, that they are anticipated due to the violent nature of this incident. have you actually linked this shooting mr. davidson to another shooting and what makes you think that this shooter could kill again. we had a similar incident that occurred approximately 8 hours prior to this shooting on interstate 81. there was some similar characteristics between the two the fact that we had one vehicle shooting into another moving vehicle. the fact that the vehicles involved were similar in characteristics. so, because of that and because to this point we haven't been able to distinguish anything that would tell us that they aren't related, we're going to investigate them as related to this point. should we come across anything they are not related, then we will stop
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investigate them as both being the same. as far as why we think go ahead, sir. >> go ahead. >> as to why you think think might shoot again die to the violent there is the possibility this person could strike again. >> trooper, do you know what provoked the encounter between mr. davidson and his killer? >> we don't know exactly what provoked it to this point or at this point we do know the victim was often' with 901 he did say he was being chased by the suspect. did he mention that this system was driving aggressively after him. what led up to that, we don't know at this point. >> all right. so the manhunt, at least right now on the highway is pennsylvania, maryland, and west virginia do you know if
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the manhunt is extended beyond those highways? not extended beyond that point. we also do have the fbi involved we're trying to get the information out there as far wide as possible and elicit as much help as we can. >> we will try to get as much information as we can if anyone has any information they should call 911 or the fbi. thank you, sir. >> thank you very much. >> okay. is this fair or right? should the nfl have nonprofit status and get the no tax break? last year the nfl made more than $9 billion and the commissioner for the nfl, well he took home about $29 million. sound like a nonprofit for you? republican senator tom coburn doesn't think so. introducing a bill that would put an end to cushy tax breaks. joe theseman joins us. great to see you. >> good to see you, greta. >> what do you make of the
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nfl and the effort of pushing them out of the nonprofit status. >> i don't think it's the first time that it's happened. i think there have been other efforts that have tried to push the national football league away from the nonprofit status. you have to totally understand it and i don't completely understand it i sort of looked it over a little bit is how do you define a nonprofit? that's going to be the essence of what they are going to conclude they end is depending upon how much money, people hear the dollar amounts and they assume something. i think when you sit down and you really have to try to understand what do you define as nonprofit? each of the teams in the national football league play taxes. the national football league is made of the national football teams. they give them x amount of dollars to run the nfl. what they do with it is what the examination is going to be about. you still have to define what a nonprofit is and move from there if you are going to figure out exactly what they want to do. >> so -- see so much money. if they did take the nonprofit status away from the nfl and a few other of
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the professional teams, nba, by the way, is not a nonprofit. >> and so is major league baseball. they gave it up five or six years ago. >> they didn't want to reveal some of the information you are required to for nonprofit is what i understand. if you strip that away, if we were to strip all of the away about $10 million a a year revenue. so it's not a huge amount of tax revenue. >> that's the interesting thing to me is you talk about $9 million. washington redskins, 1.2 billion. dallas cowboys 10 pain a billion. the values are there for the team. the question is, what kind of benefit are you going to gain by taking away the status of a nonprofit. how much status are you going to be able to taxl leagued get where it serves some kind of benefit what is the behind it? yes it makes a lot of money, yes pay a lot of taxes as teams. if you are talking about
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$10 million trillions. where does it fit in? that's the question i'm curious about. >> there is an interesting lawsuit in new jersey today a man accused the nfl of pricing the football tickets for the super bowl sort of out of everybody's league he doesn't like the prices. do you have a problem experience, i think. i think people are unhappy sometimes to pay a lot of money for anything. >> what ho do you think we are going to see in the super bowl this year? >> i went out on a limb in august and i said i thought >> what do you think we'll see in the super bowl this year?
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>> i'm going out on a lim in august. wisconsin. >> i almost regretted mentioning his name because they beat the packers. i know how you feel about it. >> cheese head by birth. joe, it's always nice to see you. >> good to it see you, greta. thank you. >> straight ahead. >> it's always nice to see you. straight ahead, i am furious with attorney general eric holder. whether i tell you why, chances are you're going to be furious too. i'm going to tell you right after the break when i go off the record and tell you what happened. [ male announcer ] here's a question for you: is your tv powered by coal? natural gas? nuclear?
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okay, let's go off-the-record for a minute. i'm lived with attorney general eric holder and its pals in the u.s. attorney's office in new york. you ought to be limited too. here is why. the justice department just settled with j.p. morgan. not only swindled billions of dollars in innocent people destroying their lives but setting off a panic on wall street that effected all of us. so today the justice department selling you out with a terrible settlement
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with the bank. under the settlement, not one person from j.p. morgan involved in one of the worst frauds, worse bank frauds in our american banking system is going to prison. didn't even get handcuffs. instead, the justice department let j.p. morgan buy its way out of trouble. $1.7 billion. sounds like a lot of money, right? it is. but here is the dirty little secret. the one the justice department knows but doesn't want you to realize. do you know who is paying that $1.7 billion? if you think for one second it's the executives at j.p. morgan who are responsible for the crimes, you are so dead wrong. they won't pay a red cent. those executives will probably still get their big golden parachutes. it's the innocent shareholders who will pay. many of you. those with absolutely nothing to do with the crimes. they are the ones who will have to pony up the $1.7 billion. justice? no, it's disgraceful. worse, it's business as usual, nothing unusual about it and that's my
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off-the-record comment tonight. if you have an important story or issue you think i should take off the record go to gretawire.com and tell us about it. so now you know what i think about j.p. morgan's settlement with the department of justice. bernie grimm and ted williams. ted, first to you. >> i'm horrified by this. what you are finding in this is that madoff can go to jail. corporations, you know, they don't commit crimes. the employees of a corporation commit crimes. just think about it the head of j.p. morgan, set back and say, look, i will pay a one, 7 billion-dollar fine. i'm not going to jail. nothing is happening to me. that is very troubling. >> bernie? >> i mean, we all knew this was happening a long time ago. it's beyond troubling does it make lawyers look bad yeah and we deserve it what troubles me nobody is injured. -million-dollar penalty. i have asked judges to
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impose it in lieu of reducing my client's sentence and i get no help. >> you know what, eric holder the attorney general of the united states had to sign off on this unwith. he did. the idea that you commit that big of crime not one person, not one executive from j.p. morgan who is actually committing the crime is even being arrested for it. and then you have got the situation. >> the problem the proof? >> apparently -- i just want to say the headline and i shout out to the "l.a. times." they say the madoff settlement meaning this one today is enormous win for j.p. morgan. >> it absolutely is i fault the justice department. >> i fault the justice department for this. >> for selling us out. >> the harm bernie madoff did and as a result of that people died, committed suicide. >> he is under arrest. he got it. >> right. >> i'm talking about. >> corporations. every single justice
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department lawyer, not all of them most of them when they rotate out they go to big law firms in new york and big cozy relationships. >> when you leave justice, you are almost stepping into a lincoln town car that's going to bring you right to your desk. i guess what bothers me the most is i think who is standing in front of us in line are probably the shareholders. any have no power. the executives they settle it for their own criminal conduct and then turn to the shareholders and they basically steal it from the company to pay it. >> greta, there is a bottom line whether we like it or not. and that is that these big financial giants know that the executives are not going to go to jail. money talks. that other stuff walks. >> don't tell me. this is the reason why you have groups like tea party and occupy wall street because they get pretty mad at relationships. >> i'm taking the last word on that. bernie and ted, thank you for agreeing with me. >> coming up, much of the u.s. cold in antarctica.
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finding ways to make the
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this is a fox news alert. brutal and dangerous cold gripping the midwest, the east, and even the south. subzero temperatures punishing many states colder in antarctica. some people finding ways to enjoy the weather. take a look at this guy. >> you like? [ laughter ] >> oh my gosh? >> you like? [ laughter ] >> out braving the elements in chicago. how bad is it? >> greta, i will tell you this is the told that i have ever experienced in my life. i still haven't gotten feeling in the bottom of my
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feet after two days outside in the brutal brutal cold. you mentioned tens of millions of people have been asked to stay inside the last couple of days. not often that you get these kind of temperatures in many of these states. you know, you are looking at temperatures in the negative 30's, negatives 40s, negative 50s, even negative 60's in parts of minnesota. a lot of people are saying if i'm going to be stuck here at home, i might as well have a little bit of home with it. yesterday, when it got down to negative 30 and 40 degrees that's what we decided to do, see what you can do with that this kind of cold. we went out and we got boiling water, went outside with it and threw it up in the air just to see if what we would see -- what we had seen on youtube would happen. all of it just turned straight into crystal. fell down as snow it was really just quite amazing. this cold while it is fun for a lot of people though. officials are stressing that this is still very dangerous if you are going to be outside for more than 10, 15, 20 minutes. there is already at least 20 storm-related deaths that have been reported in saint
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paul, minnesota at regent's hospital. a number of cases of frost bite reported there already. this bad weather is going to continue throughout much of this week. by the end of the week it does look like it is going to improve a bit, but in indianapolis, they are going to get above freezing. the officials there, they are already worrying about flooding from all of the snow that they have gotten that has been going to be melting. >> garrett, thank you very much. and it's not just house republicans. now republicans attorneys general taking their fight against obamacare directly to president obama. the state a.g.s from florida and south carolina demanding the white house arrange a meeting between h.h.s. secretary kathleen sebelius and the g.o.p. attorneys general. good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. >> you and the attorney general from the state of florida, pam bondi have just written a letter to the president. what is in your letter and what do you want? >> well, over the holidays,
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i was talking with attorney general bondi, my good friend and colleague, and that conversation led to us voicing our frustration that she and i have had with this administration and they are completely ignoring our previous attempts to deal with the implementation of obamacare. then we started talking about the frustrations of our constituents and our citizens and consumers of our respective states. so we decided to send a letter, basically directing president obama or asking president obama, rather, to direct secretary sebelius to meet with the states. we had been asking to meet for months now to discuss security and safety concerns of our consumers. and those requests have gone unanswered. secondly, we wanted president obama to recognize that he cannot executive order his way out of this horrible mess that obamacare has created for this country. and we are asking him to join congress in following congressional action that can fix this horrible mess he has created. >> well, interesting. the letter. i read a copy of the letter. it's interesting that it isn't addressed to cath lean
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sebelius, the h.h.s. secretary. shy totally ignores you when you try to reach her? >> well, to my knowledge, i know that our state has not received a response to the letter we sent six or seven months ago. i have spoken to other a.g.s around the country. i know attorney general bondi has not received a response. we have sent two letters, at least with my signature on it to secretary sebelius. and so now we have said okay, you are not going to address this, then, mr. president, ask her to meet with the chief legal officers of the states. because we desperately want to meet with her concerning a lot of the rollout of this affordable care act, which is really creating a lot of havoc in the free market. >> do you even get a response of -- that's what i don't get. people send letters off would you please talk to me about a particular problem. i mean, do you ever get a response back: no, i'm too busy or i can't. or talk to this person or does it just go into some sort of black hole, this communication? >> well, would he got farther with the white today thn we ever have with sebelius, we did get an auto
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reply. i can't say we haven't got reason ply. >> what was that. >> auto reply. i didn't read the auto reply. we never got auto reply with h.h.s. we also sent it via u.s.s. postal service. we. have your secretary meet with the a.g.s of the respective questions we have raced regard -- raised the security concerns of obamacare. >> let us know if you hear more than an auto response whether the president does call his h.h.s. secretary and say meet with the two attorneys general because they have questions for you. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, greta. >> coming up, a new problem for the irs. wait until you hear what the irs just figured out. we are going to tell you and our political panel is here to talk about it next.
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this is a fox news alert. a u.s. air force helicopter crashes in england. the chopper went down during a training mission coastal area of eastern england. u.s. ceives official tells the associated press that four u.s. press members have been killed. britain's royal air force says the fate of the crew is not known. we will bring you more information on this breaking news as we get it and now to tonight's speed read. and there is breaking news out of colorado. a deadly avalanche striking at the posh ski resort. at least one person is dead. three others are caught up in the avalanche. at this hour. gets underway. bring you social security disability fraud scheme. the defendants include 80 former members of the police and fire departments. many accused of claiming they suffered credit problems as a result of 9/11 attacks. prosecutors say the defendants lied to get benefits they were not entitled to. that cost federal taxpayers
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hundreds of millions of dollars. and american speed champ lynsey vaughn will not compete in the winter limb micks. her knee injury will keep her from going to sochi. she retore it in november. she needs more vureg. von is devastated to miss the limb mick picks. new york magazine covers the pot scene launching a new private equity fund. the fund plans to raise $100 million to it invest in pot related businesses. that's tonight's speed read. and now how is this for ironic. can't afford to implement obama care. the agency may need to sacrifice spending on other programs in order to pay for obamacare implementation. joining us, our political panel the national general sam baker, the hill's elise viebeck and michael crowley. michael, yikes, what's the irs going to do? >> well, they're going to have to shuffle money around
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i guess. i see this story two ways. one way to spin it is that it seems like obamacare can't do anything right and ha it's one problem after another. on the other hand, if the irs is going to have less money for auditing people and catching up with you and making you pay your back taxes, it could actually be one of the few very popular things that obamacare has brought. >> elise? >> actually, the national taxpayer advocate says taxpayers earn back about $4 to $5 in revenue one dollar spent on the irs administration. in a sense that is an agency that deserves our money from a taxpayer's perspective. then again, they are still using magnetic tape to store their data. they need a lot of money to catch up with the 21st century. >> sam. >> the irs is responsible for a lot more than obamacare than we think. we focus on the payment of the individual mandate. administer tax subsidies, are taxes on industries there is a huge amount that has to get done there if they are unable to do the job fully, that's a pretty big deal.
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>> can we all agree it's not likely the house republicans are not going to want to give them money. >> no, not after irs targeted conservatives for scrutiny. there is is no way house republicans are going to give them more money. >> is this really a problem? us taking a look at something because the commissioner said something and we are all seizing upon it or is this a real problem? >> we hear bureaucrats talking about we are not going to have the money for. this they shuffle the money around. if it's important enough they will prioritize. i notice that otherwise they say there haven't been glitches in terms of them getting up to speed, organizationally on this. it's not a glitch riddled thing the way the web site was, for instance. at least technically it's okay. >> speaking of web site, how are we doing on the back end? >> insurers reporting problems with the 834 forms that are generating the user data. >> what does that mean. >> that means when someone signs up on healthcare.gov there is a process that information to insurance companies. for months the companies
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said the forms are flawed they are having to work on the case by case basis to reconcile each application. some progress being made but a long way to go. >> is the obama administration satisfied. they took a real bouncy rollout? are they satisfied now they are on the right track or still in fear? >> no, i think they are increasingly confident that they are on the right track. can you see that in substantial ways. one, they are directing people to the web site, which they weren't doing when it was broken. and, enrollment is truly starting to pick up. they have hit about 2 million people now. huge percentage of that came in december. so i think, you know, they are not going to start celebrating any time soon. there is still a lot to do. >> which brings me to your article. you recently wrote that obamacare can't possibly fail because essentially keep diluting their standards and moving the goal posts so that no matter what, they change the success and by diluting it, they will always win. >> that's right. when you ask what
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constitutes success for you in the first year, the answer that you get back is obamacare will not collapse in the first year, which is sort of, you know as a successful person i didn't die last year. >> what happened to that 7 million number? >> that's right. so 7 million didn't start with the administration that's true. it's a number that they attached themselves to and they sort of expectation for the first year. >> they are not -- they are denying that one now. >> right. when you ask do you have -- if that's not your goal do you have a goal. >> no, as many people as possible. whichever by definition however many sign up as many as possible. >> spinning this hard. the rollout has been a bit of a fiasco and the politics are going to be hard in the mid-term elections. longer term, it's not weeks and months, it's years. too early to say success or failure right now as a political proposition.
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it is definitely the best they can say is not a disaster. that's a real problem coming up to the mid terms. but the real measure will take some more time. >> isn't one of the current real measures is the demographics whether young healthy people buy into it they deny having that date that they can't release that they quick were at least at the end of the summer that 2.1 million number of enrollees, they say they can't do the item grawnks. do you buy that? >> i don't know how honest they are being when they say that they may be doing that partly thinking it's early to judge. >> they won't even give us that number. >> that's fair. they should be as transparent as possible. the main point here is politically it's a big problem heading into the mid terms. the real judge is success or failure real test success or failure is a longer thing that's going to go beyond 2014. >> i believe we have that data by the end of march or early april. >> do you think they have it right now and are not telling us. >> no.
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i believe they do probably. >> why won't they tell us? give it to us. we are big boys and big girls. >> it's valid criticism. come up many times not just at h.h.s. but white house press briefings. the press is embracing this issue as a wider thing by april we will know. >> we pay for the collection of the numbers. we pay for their salaries. and we are supposed to have transparency. they work for us and then they won't tell us something which i think they have. whatever the numbers may be but anyway. let me ask you about something else. dennis rodman the former nba player in north korea for a basketball game. the purpose of the game to honor dictator kim jong un on his birthday and during an interview rodman suddenly ranting and raving trying to defend his trip. today the controversy making it way to the white house press briefing. press secretary jay carney saying the u.s. government does not vet private travel. sam, your thoughts? >> i think dennis rodman would probably do the world a lot of good if he just stayed home away from airplanes and television cameras and let this all go
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away. >> i don't blame the the white house for not wanting to endorse his actions or ally themselves in any way. we frankly don't know what's going to happen to him. anyone who is spending that time that closely with the regime is putting themselves in danger. those people are enormously dangerous. >> loose cannon, lost soul when you saw that rant today. there is almost something sir particular call about satirical about it hillary clinton and john kerry been kept on a short leash. even the secretary of state hasn't been allowed to go out and freelance that much. they like to do the policy and the national security council control freaks. now you have dennis rodman muddling up our north korea policy it must kind of drive them crazy and they want nothing to do with it and it's clear they won't even touch it. >> i have been there three times to north korea. dennis rodman is clearly visiting a different north korea than i visited. and he is quite comical but enormously serious to the
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world. to have him sort of going rogue and free-lancing out there with the country the execution of the uncle, the nuclear uncle: there is nothing, i don't blame the obama administration can't do anything about him. >> that's right. is he putting a veneer of legitimacy on a regime enormously dangerous to its own people. he doesn't want to acknowledge that. >> i don't think he understands. >> it's possibly he doesn't. is he not a serious diplomatic, of course. he no idea. >> i think he is a lost soul and troubled guy. you saw interestingly, at least one of the i think if you saw their faces in that wacky interview he did today. those guys looked pretty mortified. however much they were getting paid, nba commissioner said they were blinded by the big payday. they were starting to feel some regret if you saw the embarrassment on their faces. >> it's amazing that he doesn't understand how is he being played. you know, maybe there is -- in the beginning i sort of thought well, maybe, he
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could sort of be, you know, open the door and get kim jong un to sort of maybe want to come around a little bit. but in light of everything that's happened with the uncle, it's like, you know, that's dreamy. >> it's almost worse than it's being played. he is advancing the agenda this guy is a good leader. there is a reason this hostage is being held there. it's like he is becoming a propagandaist not just a dupe. >> terrible place. unimaginable things happening to people anyway. dennis rodman. panel, thank you very much. straight ahead, a woman battling cancer says obamacare is adding to her fears. will she lose access to her cancer center and her doctor. she is here to tell her story. seinfeld and david teaming there's a saying around here, you stand behind what you say. around here you don't make excuses. you make commitments.
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and when you can't live up to them, you own up, and make it right. so people think the kind of accountability has gone missing in e placesets where it's needemost. but i know you'll still find it when you know where to look.
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seinfeld revealing collaboration online q and a. saying he and david are written a victim remain mum on the project. the comedians created seinfeld. amazon making a not so typical delivery. posting this photo with the caption what's the largest
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item you can have shipped from amazon because i think my neighbor just got it. what could this giant package possibly be? it's a car. amazon teaming one nissan for a promotion. send boxes to three shopper who's bought cars on the site. "people" magazine tweeting prince william checks in at university of cambridge to begin his farming course. taking a train from london to the university where he kicks off a 10 week agricultural management course. he is expected to main the train ride several days a week. he has the option to stay overnight at cambridge. hash it out with us use # greta in all your tweets and posts. coming up, a woman fighting for her life now fighting for her health insurance too. she is here to tell you her story next.
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>> i'm doing fine, fighting, but i am doing fine. >> what kind of cancer do you have? is it something that the doctors have given you hope that it could be managed? >> yeah, my husband going to answer that question because he knows better than myself. he take care of me. >> jay, let me ask you, believe it or not, i've had cancer in my own family. i know how tough it is. i know how important it is to keep your doctors. is she going to be able to keep
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her doctors? is this all manageable? >> well, i'll start by saying that september of 2012 my wife was diagnosed with stage 4 brain and bone cancer. she has five brain tumors, and her bone cancer was extensive throughout her body. the cancer was located in the top and rear part of the skull. her right clavicle, sternum, ribs, pelvic, and right thigh. we started treatment in miami and then we were somewhat dissatisfied and anderson was known to treat highly specialized and complex cancer, so we came here last may.
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>> is obamacare in some way, inhibiting the care that you can get or worrying you or is it helping you? >> well, gretta, our entire life is fought between a struggle of being possessed by the cancer itself and basically obsessed by trying to find ways to constantly fight it and eventually beat it. when we received this letter of cancellation from florida blue, it hit us like a ton of bricks. and only added a new layer of stress to our lives. energy which was in short supply, let's just say, and my life -- my wife, when she did receive this letter, cried for a number of days on end, really. it was very difficult.
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she became extremely upset. in terms of whether or not it will present additional problems to us, we had a meeting with anderson last december and at that time they were evaluating which obamacare plans they would accept, if any at all. >> i can tell you one thing, jay. first of all, you're really lucky. md anderson is one of the very best and i do know from my own experience, all the uncertainty that's arisen with the changes that i do hope that you and gloria can at least find someone at least to give you the answers on the insurance and the obamacare, because i know you have so much to deal with on the health issue. i hope you'll keep us informed, tell us what's going on, and i wish you the best of luck. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up, senator lindsay
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graham says president obama is awol. why is he saying that?
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how about having your exboss announce your firing on twitter. that's exactly what dallas police cheech is doing. david brown has fired 27 officers in the last year. every time he takes to social media. here is some of chief brown's tweets. i have terminated 911 caller taker moses for driving under the influence and not reporting his arrest to his supervisor. and i have terminated frank della for public intoxication, damaging a person's property and making offensive contact with a person. so now you be the judge. is this a good way to teach wayward workers a lesson or is it mean? go to gretawire and well another great thing about all this walking i've been doing is that it's given me time to reflect on some of life's biggest questions. like, if you could save hundreds on car insurance by making one simple call, why wouldn't you make that call? see, the only thing i can think of is that you can't get any...
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after all the sacrifice deteriorating. senator lindsey. nice to see you, sir. >> so who do you blame for the advances of al qaeda? >> president obama. >> why? >> president obama had an opportunity to leave a residual force behind in iraq that our military commanders recommended. somewhere between 10 and 15,000 secured iraq and we would have had a successful outcome. the surge worked. our military performed brilliantly. we won the war and lost the
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peace. i blame obama and biden for not listening to their commanders, rejecting them. advising. bob gates takes about that in his book. military overruled by the political people and the white house. now you see al qaeda on the rise. i would say this to the american people. any time al qaeda occupies this city anywhere in the world. >> you mean fallujah. >> fallujah and ramadi. every other city in the world. these are the people that attacked us on 9/11. this is an affiliate group of al qaeda that is trying to drive every western interest out of the middle east and take over impose a radical islamic agenda on the middle east that would make it impossible for us as americans to be successful in the world. >> it's not just contained to iraq. >> syria. >> in syria, the rebel groups now -- >> -- yes, ma'am. >> as i understand it dominated by al qaeda: do we support assad which we don't because he gases people, or do we support the
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sill syrian army that can still. >> yes, ma'am. you can got to change the battle. >> how? >> by empowering those once they went. al qaeda. they are about 10,000 of them going. but with a good drone program, you don't need american troops. no weapons have gone to the free syrian army. >> is there time? >> yes, there is time. >> everything seems to be deteriorating over there here in the united states, i don't think a the love americans have an appetite for getting the reinvester. >> i totally get that i'm not talking about ground troops. the king of jordan have you ever met the king of jordan? >> i met his father. >> he is one of the solutions not the problems. he has a peace treaty with israel. what happens' if he gets overrun bi-rad dick call islamists. that will happen a year from now or less if something doesn't change in syria. what about lebanon?
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it's falling apart because of syria. look at iraq? syria is a cancer, it has to be contained and we could. >> you mentioned israel, you were just there with senator mccain and i know that senator senator netanyahu grateful for you being there and supporting the israelis. what is sort of the israeli -- what is prime minister netanyahu thinking about obama administration actions? >> iran's nuclear program is the biggest threat to the existence of israel and to our -- if the eye tall los get a nuke, god help the israeli people. they believed that backing off. sanctions sending the worse possible signal to ayatollahs. they believe. agreement allowed the iranians to continue to enrich uranium to go toward developing a bomb. >> are you for more sanctions? >> absolutely. if we don't put sanctions on the table and let the western world and iranians know that we are serious about stopping their
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program, this deal is going to come apart. >> is the president in favor of sanctions? >> the president is not in favor of additional sanctions. the only reason the iranians are at the table today is because the sanctions brought them there. if you back off, they are going to play us like a fiddle. and the biggest fear of the israelis is for the king of jordan to be a victim of syria for the whole region to be taken into chaos. you know, the syrian war to spread throughout the region. and the iranians to get a nuclear weapon. radical islamists are getting closer by the day to having weapons that could destroyed us all. the biggest challenge of my lifetime and your lifetime is to contain radical islam and keep them away from weapons of mass destruction. if the ayatollahs in iran develop a nuclear weapon, i'm afraid they will share it with terrorists. these chemical weapons in syria. and all the weapons in the middle east are now about the fall in the hands of the most radical hands on the planet. i blame president obama, is he awol when it comes to leadership. when it comes to afghanistan, we have got a chance to get that right. he hasn't talked to the
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afghan president since july. >> senator, thank you very much, sir. >> thank you. >> thank you for being with us. we will see you again tomorrow night. right here at 7 p.m. eastern. go to gretawire.com. >> averto. you are now about to enter the >> coming up on "red eye" a puppy the size of an iphone. we've got what some are already calling the most adorable interview of all time. and what does the vice president really think of the moon landing? >> it is a bunch of malarkey. that means it ain't true. >> and finally a man who fell in love with a cobra. our panel weighs in on whether or not he should be allowed to legally marry the venomous reptile. none of these stories on "red eye" tonight. >> she is so sharp she scares hemopheliacs. i am here with

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