interesting. good night from washington. see you on gretawire.com. averto. you are now about to enter the greg zone tonight on "red eye." coming up on "red eye." it dine tieses build the world's deadliest cheetah robot? a look at the machine powered by human souls. plus does the president think he and joe biden can finish bipg watching all of hbo's "girl" before the season starts. >> the good news is i am optimistic we can do it if we do it together. >> and finally a man so stupid he nearly pierced himself shut. none of these stories on "red eye" tonight jie. what a let down. let's welcome our guest. she is so cute the snuggles bear sued her for copyright infringement so she strangled it with her own hair.

and he is taking an on-line course in taking on-line courses . that's very sad. and she is so sharp that balloons cross the street when they see her. it is liz mcdonald. her book "skirting heracy." the life and times of marjorie kemp. that is like a real book. he is so smart that s.a.t.s stud dooy to take him and then flunk. lou dabbs 7:00 p.m. on fox business network. his new book came out on tuesday. we will talk about it later. it is called "upheaval." >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. hey, greg, repeat after me. she sells sea shells by the -- oh just start the show. >> that is uncanning. all right. interesting. did the dictator swoon at rodman's tune?

it is day whatever of -- >> i love that coping. on -- on wednesday dennis rodman sang happy birthday to his lover kim jong-un before an exhibition game before nba has beens and a north korean team who were later eaten by dogs. let's listen fans of listening. >> ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday ♪ happy birthday to you >> that's how you clap. if you don't clap you are going to die.

can we hear that again in slow mo? >> ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday ♪ happy birthday to you >> no matter how awful something is, slow motion always makes it better. now i love it. lou, this is now officially a creep show. it is an orgy of psychosis. what else can happen that could make this even more disturbing? >> i don't -- i can't even begin to imagine what he is thinking. he approached kim jong-un, at least a man as such, i thought he wanted to bow and then embrace and i don't know what he had in his mind there. but it is as you say creepy

and getting worse. whatever it is. >> it is. it is like a weird medical disorder. liz, in the 90s you care nateed nateed -- you seranated edie amene. >> there is no difference. there is one difference. did he say happy birthday dear leader? is that what he said? >> i don't know what he said. >> what was he bowing for. in this clip they pan to the audience and show the people in the audience. the women in the audience look like they shopped at many's warehouse. they are all wearing three piece suits. why is he bowing? but then i did hear that the nelson mandela memorial interpreter showed up and interpreted the song in north korean-ese or whatever. actually said happy birthday rut devil and going to hell. we haven't seen dennis rodman since. >> by the way, the reason they are wearing joseph a banks is you get three suits for the price of one.

it is nice actually. joanne, good to see you as always. should we be this mad at dennis rodman? he is just having fun with a mass murderer. >> this was an amazing thing that happened. we just found out next "american idol" judge. >> it is true. >> someone with very little talent who likes to make a spectacle of himself. >> have you ever met him? >> i haven't. it is a shame. >> i always assume that as a beauty pageant winner who works at a drinking establishment you have met everyone who is fame husband. >> you would think. there is still so much farther to go. >> so much to look forward to. >> are we really surprised he did this? the thing i thought was weird was how everyone starts clapping. no one does that at my birthday. everybody is silent. >> threat of death.

it makes anybody do everything. andy, if kim -- if kim jong-un was a massive andy levy fan would you text me? >> he is a huge "red eye" fan. it is on in the midday. i have stuff he texted me from the other night. can we put it up? he texted that it was a p good show which means pretty good show, but paul mccurio sucks. i would like to make him my uncle. he just killed his uncle. and then i said not cool and he said jk, lol. >> do you think he was jk-ing? >> he was probably trying to gauge how i felt. i was kidding when i said it wasn't cool. i thought it was all right. >> most "red eye" viewers would be okay with it if they fed mccurio to the dogs. >> happy birthday is the new hit song sweeping north korea. that's why they were clapping. they had never heard that song before. they are like what is this

cool song that you sing to people on their birthday? >> that's amazing. >> it is all over the air waves. >> it is catchy and short. >> much like their lives. >> it is their "gangnam style." >> i used this metaphor before. there was another world leader sung to, marilyn monroe to jfk. in a way isn't dennis rodman positioning himself to be the marilyn monroe to kim jong-un? it is a domestic partnership. >> that is exciting. i think now everyone is galvanized on this story and can't wait for the next development. >> i don't know. i think what is going to happen is if the north korean team loses they are going to be killed. there is no question. i think so. they will be fed to rodman's team who won't know. >> and then he will sing "for he's a jolly good fellow." >> a happy ending for everyone. they have no glee for the

gop. but the dems aren't gems either. according to gallop which is a polling agency and not what a horse does" a record 42% of americans identify as political independents. that's the highest since gallop has been asking this question since the mid1500's that mirrors a record low who say they are republicans. meanwhile, only 30% identify with the democrats. innies have been turning up as opposed to outies. i am an inknee. thanks to the government shutdown something called obamacare and "anchorman 2". for analysis let's go to two cats in wigs. >> they are like the hilton sisters. >> they are like monkeys, but

they are cats. >> interesting. >> i like the hilton comparison better. they are hiltons, but furrier. joanne, as the only person who votes on "american idol" a question i wrote before you made that comment which is eerie, are you part of the independent trend? i don't see you as a democrat or conservative. i don't know what you believe. >> my mother told me to say i am unaffiliated. >> that's good. >> i do think especially in millenials we are seeing that more. there are so many issues covering every spectrum of our lives we don't know how to associate ourselves. but the thing that i find so funny is that people will stay committed to a sports team more than they will to their party. even if your team is having a bad season, if there is a new player to your team, you still stay with them. >> that's true. >> it is just funny that in an area that is more important like what party you associate

yourself with, you are so willing to kind of step back. >> i think it depends though. there are a lot of people who will stick to a party no matter how idiotic it is in the republicans and the democrats. lou, you are a registered independent. >> i am. >> that is mi, i think, i can't remember. >> i have to confess, like you, i am unaffiliated. i call that independent. >> were you ever affiliated? >> i was affiliated i am embarrassed to say. the party would have basically thrown me out had i not left on my own accord. >> is that because of the peck tours? pictures. >> that is a long list. >> we will talk after the show. >> the reality is i like being unaffiliated. i am proud to be as you put it unaffiliated, disassociated. i know that's a psychological condition, but the truth is it is a good time to be independent. >> should the parties be worried? >> i don't think so. there is nothing that money can't buy. they continue to prove that

with every election. >> that's depressing. >> i didn't mean it to be. >> now i am just sad and i don't want to do the show tonight. liz, are people moving away from the party's beliefs or is this more about branding? a question i didn't write and i don't even know what it means. >> it is a really good question. >> was it? >> i will have to sleep on that one. i qil die wondering -- i will die wondering about this. can you repeat that. >> are people moving away from the party's beliefs or is this more about branding? i read it twice now and i still don't get it. >> i will say the former. but i hear your point. >> which is the former? >> i don't know. it is the tiers thing he said. the thing with the branding part, i think there is a middle ground where the people -- where people agree with the republicans economically and they agree with the democrats in social issues. the thing with being an independent, i thought about

doing that, but then i'm like one of those senior citizens who write letters to newspaper. i i want to vote in the primaries. so i'm like 8 -- i'm like anal that way. >> andy is anal that way as well. anyway, you launched a new party called the demo cats, didn't you? >> no, who wrote that question? >> you did. see, you people who bug me for making fun of cats he writes his own cat insults, my friend. >> i have to preempt them. i think this is good news for america. both parties suck and both have sucked for a longtime and people are waking up to that fact. political parties should be a means to an end. that end should be helping people -- you organize people with the goal of making america better. but we have reached a point where the parties are the end

and don't speak ill of your fellow republicans and democrats crap and it hospital matter. what is good about the citizens of the country. not what happens to your party. >> it stinks what the nixon era law says. we funded a two-party system. >> i have a theory. i think the population has out grown the typical clicheed version. we have out grown -- when you look at tv in the 80s and you say i can't believe i watched that. it is the same thing with music and style. why can't we just say we have grown out of the typical politician. i will use an example. i look at rick santorum and i say that guy should not be running. he should run in the 70s. as a republican candidate that's a mistake. a certain kind of humorless dork, gotta go. >> i wish i could comment on that, but because of my job

-- >> i don't mean he is. but the republican party suffers from that. >> they are filled with the -- it is the old models. both parties. these people by the way have been around since the pacer. pelosi and reid have been around since the reagan administration. >> both parties are filled with really -- they need new blood, but nobody wants to be a politician. >> bynum has been around since the nixon administration. >> but he is a statesman. >> i must apologize to rick santorum. i didn't call you a dork, but i just don't like your sweaters. i don't. this is long sleeve. he wears v-necks. i mean sleeve less. where am i? so they strive before they can drive? the governor of maine, they have a governor there. it is true. he says kids should have the option to work. on tuesday republican paul lepage told attendees at a

trade show, quote, we don't allow children to work when they are 16, but at 18 they can go to war and fight for the united states. that is causing damage to our economy. there is nothing wrong with being a paper boy at 12 years old. >> -- tell me about it or at a store sorting bottles at 12 years old. no matter what your age it is important to take breaks at work. >> that's amazing. good for you, weird guy. liz, if children start working sooner in a way they will be addicted to it like smoking which is good. >> or like how they are addicted to eating junk food and sitting on facebook all

day. >> get them addicted to work sooner like right when they come out of the womb, right when the mom is done with labor put them into labor. >> yeah, put them into labor. they should start at age 9. when you are in fourth grade you are aware. by third grade you have the sex talk with your friends and you get it. no i'm kidding. i think it is fine for kids to work. i don't want to sound like lincoln oh i worked since age 12, but i did start work at age 15. my parents wanted me out of the house. they had eight kids. get out of here. go work. >> kids are stupid. we can say that safely. they need to keep busy or they are up to no good. what they say devil's work is idle hands or -- >> precisely. >> what age do they start? >> well, what -- this was an agricultural fare they brought this up in. they are born to work. in farms i didn't grow up on

one so i might be wrong, but you -- everyone has to do their part on the farm. what would make the work different from the chores? that would mean payment. when you are 12, you don't deal with your own money. you are not physician scalely responsible to do so. it goes to your parents. these are just parents trying to take over the world and exploit their children. i'm all for it. >> really because what do kids do but take up space? i was a paper boy until i was 27. and then it all wept away. then it all went away. you are the business expert. he is a guy. >> i'm a little hurt. >> what are the jobs for an enterprising 9-year-old? >> an enterprising 9-year-old can be and often is on a farm working. i will try to keep it within the semblance of reality. you can be helping mother

garden, tend to elderly parents. >> that's good. tend to the elderly in a garden. >> you could. and i agree. >> handle hazardous materials and explosives. >> they have small hands which is good for that. >> they are dexterity prone. >> you know what is fun for me? trying to understand what is happening. >> it is fun for us too. >> i want to say thank you so much. >> i don't know if that is my fault. your first job is as a cat herder. >> didn't write that one. >> generally there are two purposes to child labor laws. one is to keep kids in school and the other is to protect them from danger. i fail to see the warm in either of those things. and the fact that kids can get jobs in maine. they can be paper boys. >> they can be coal miners.

>> all you have to do is get a releasu are enrolled in school and doing okay. we've got high unemployment. we don't need more people taking the jobs. adults can't get jobs right now. >> children are better seen than heard or unseen and unheard. >> and working. >> and working. that's my theory. i don't care. i just don't want them around me. >> send them to the coal mine. >> maybe it is about brabd -- about branding. >> key wee have to take a break. my birthday is in nine months. it is never too early to start planning. i wear a medium. first, what have they banned now in iran? i hope it is your face.

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deletes. dallas police chief david o brown lets the public know when he has fired an officer or other employee by posting it on social media. this leads to tweets such as "i have terminated sc amy will burn today for firing her weapon upon an unarmed person without fear or justification." and "i have terminated sc frank della for public intoxication, damaging a person's property and making offensive contact with a person." that's bad. chief brown says this is all part of a push pour greater transparency. of the practice the spokesperson for the dallas pd says they have gotten good response from officers and chanders. commanders. here is tape of a cop caught skipping work and promptly fired.

>> that's actually in merge new jersey. how did a panda get to new jersey. >> is this a good idea? an awful idea or both, a dw awful idea? >> i am astonished that more people are not doing precisely the same thing. it is the basis for a great reality show. i am very impressed. >> you like this? >> i love this. >> i have mixed feelings. i like public shaming. i like to be shamed. i feel bad for those being shamed. >> it devalues them. i understand transparency and we want to see this, however these are real people with careers. >> not anymore. >> exactly though. it is glorifying the

termination rather than proving a p oi nt to the public. >> like firing a weapon and being publicly intoxicated? >> some are bad. >> how many warnings should those folks get? >> that's true. i get it. but see i don't even like it when somebody is arrested for prostitution and they put their face on a billboard. i don't like that either. >> it was terrible. i couldn't get a job for six months. i mean employment, liz. lou thinks this is a good idea. he is a facist. we all know that. is this guy a trailblazer? >> first of all i thought i was watching an episode of reno 9-1-1. there is a point to be made. if you are a cop and firing a weapon on an unarmed person and how do you get in trouble for it? it sounds like he was fed up

because these cops -- he saw them doing all sorts of things and he took matter into his own hands. he is a vigilante ms. jane hathaway cop. >> you love ms. jane hathaway, don't you? >> we have a lot of them in the media. they are on the front page of the new york times and on the editorial page. >> wow. >> andy, i don't know. i kind of think lou is right, but i think joanne is right and liz is crazy. you publicly shame your cats on twitter so you must love chief brown. >> i do. the thing is they are public employees. in general police departments when they do things like this they will send out press releases and give this to the press. this is no different from that. it is the more technologically savy version of that. >> the only problem is he does all of this before they are given a chance to appeal.

234 fact, every time he tweets this, the next tweet is the civil service rule has a right to appeal. i wouldn't mind if it was dismissed. if it is off turned by appeal you are tweeting this and then three months later it is oh this person wasn't fired. >> they had a reason for discharging their weapon. >> don't you think this was a little too much concern with process? i like the fact he moved to a result. here you are. you fired your gun. you are a danger to society. the chief has taken care of it. >> what if social networks didn't exist? what would he have done in the 80s? >> they would have to wear a sign around their neck. >> shooting my gun at my boyfriend. >> i like that impress. >> for me it is all about

branding. >> it is about branding. you worked on a farm for awhile. >> i did. >> dennis rodman could have used somebody tweeting. >> that is true. it may have saved him a lot of time and trouble. >> and a trip to north korea. >> coming up, tonight's c block. tonight's c block is sponsored by gravity. thanks, gravity. you're welcome, greg. you are the true force of nature. thanks, gravity. are we still going to see cold play this sunday? yes, gravity, we are. so needy. up next a new app that makes it easier to pick up chicks. excellent. i love food.

a new facial recognition app will let complete strangers identify you anonymously by matching your picture with those you've up loaded to social networks and then they murder you. not really. it is called name tag and it lets anyone up load a picture they have taken on their phone to a server where the app then compare itself to millions of social networking profiles and sends back your name and a list of your social media pages to the creep who went looking for you. the company says to opt out of identification, you can go to their site and create a profile directly or make love to them. that's disgusting, andy and not true. joanne, let's face it. this is for creepy guys to go

up to you and pretend they know you. >> if you have a stalker, they know who you are. this is not for the creeps. my main issue with this is now law and -- "law and order scu" can't do episodes. we have a picture of the perp. who? oh, this guy. story over. >> it turned out not to be that guy. >> in "law and order" there are like 16 twists. he did fake social networking. it is always going to be his rich republican father who has sex with the sister of the suspect. >> while destroying the environment. >> and voting for rick santorum. >> i wouldn't go that far. >> lou -- >> oh no. >> everybody knows you. you think they are booing him,

but they are louing him. that is terrible. >> it is so dumb. he has never heard that before. >> i never heard it and i am old. >> you are not old. no one needs a face app for you. >> that's wonderful. i guess you don't have to worry. would you want one of these? >> i would not. this sounds like an episode of of -- well one of the broadcasts i, you know, the john walsh and most wanted and that broadcast would go away, but it has gone away. i hillary join the group. -- i will rejoin the group. >> you just don't like the idea. >> i am absolutely intrigued by the idea. >> if there was a fence you would be sitting on it. >> liz, maybe this could be used for good. there is a shoplifter in a

local market and you take a picture and there you have the person's identity. and then the shoplifter comes back and kills you, but we don't tell that part of the story. maybe that is a different app. i thought it was creepy and then i thought i will just up load pictures of kate winslet or share -- charlize theron. you have to fix the problem they created for you by going to their website. >> up load a famous person and then walk around l.a. like going like this. is it you? do it in reverse. and then mace them. no you wouldn't do that. why did you plant that thought in my head? the problem is is that perverts like you, an dye, will use -- andy, will use this more than anyone to find random women. you would be like this, okay she is cute. oh, jessica, how are you? she went to -- oh you went to

berkeley? >> so did i. remember me? >> what is the problem. >> that's what i'm saying. >> i completely agree with you. the nasty thing about this is you have to opt out rather than opt in. they would make this opt in so you would have to sign up on a website. but that is the thing. they wouldn't make any money. the only good thing is they claim they will be on ios and on apple devices. my guess is apple won't let that happen. >> it is a great idea. what is the thing where you can find music? >> shazam. >> it is like shazam for faces. >> for stalkers. that's not good. >> they should do it for body parts so people are not offended. like for butts. i guess that wouldn't work. >> i won't be walking by your desk anytime soon. >> an encyclopedia of butts.

could his ponytail prevail? steven segal is considering a run for governor of arizona. the actor discussed it with the publicity shy sheriff in that state. >> we were talking about me running for governor and i suppose i would remotely consider it, but i would have a lot are month other responsibilities that may impor. >> he has that voice that what he was saying is quietly important. if i don't have to speak up. he is 61 and made the comments while talking about his newly released series "law man, maricopa county". talk about a great team. lou, one of his platform sins creasing border -- 1* increasing border security. >> that's a great idea. >> yes, a lot of people shop

-- shoplift at that bookstore. >> that is an important thing. >> i am deeply intrigued. the fact that they would join up -- what i am more worried about is in louisiana he is doing ride alongs with the local sheriff there. itit is uh-huh ban doning an implied contract. he should be concerned about his reputation. >> joanne, you dated him briefly in the 90s. how do you feel about this? >> he is perfect. he is the perfect candidate for mayor. he doesn't have any qualifications and his platform is like,eh. he will win it and then we will regret it. >> it was governor and not mayor. >> governor. see i don't read or vote.

>> then we're safe. >> or are we? ema, do you -- e-mac do you think he can win if he runs? >> when people read the crazy things he says though? this guy is deputized in new mexico, texas and louisiana? i didn't know he is all that. he wants to be in a s.w.a.t stank. >> a s.w.a.t tank? >> i am kidding. >> he is turning his life into a movie. he said, qoit, i have trained cia operatives to speech four languages and how to be claire clairvoyant and heelers. it is making all the local stops. i think he is scary. i think he is a weird guy. when you read what he says in interviews he is so spell bound with himself. >> i agreed with you until i saw he has a goatee these

dpais -- these days. >> it is amazing what a little facial hair will do. >> it is like a tango and cash kind of thing. >> poor lou doesn't know where to go with this. >> there was a great piece of advice a couple weeks ago that laid out how sleezy steven segal is. sued for sexual harassment and trafficking fee mauls for sex. there was a great story. one day an executive walked to segal's trailer weeping. he said i am reading the script and it is the most -- the best script i ever read. they said who wrote it? he said i did. >> true story. >> i didn't know he was trafficking -- that means he is a pimp. >> i think he was trafficking them for himself. it is more of a consumption problem. >> i think con consumption

should be lil, right? not the illness. i am totally against that, america. we got rid of it with a healthy, nutritional diet. >> isn't it the flu? >> doc local day, wyatt earp. >> we have to do to this tease. we will take a break and there is more on the way. have i a new book. called "not cool" and comes out in march. go to g gutfeld.com. >> have i to have that.

we cannot wait for washington to act. they won't. they can't. they don't know how. that's from lou dabbs new book "upheaval" which is out this week. >> that was good. >> thank you.

lou, i want to ask you questions about the book. first, your publicity team sent us a trailer for the book. they told us we have to show. i'm sure it will be really boring, but let's check it out. ♪

>> your book is so hot and extreme, america, that a it exploded. >> you know, i feel badly. you are implying that i can surf. i have to be honest. i can't surf. >> i think you can. i want to ask you about this book. what are you referring to in "upheaval." is it the country? >> i am referring to the fact that we are facing the process of upheaval if certain forces are not identified and dealt with. >> what are the forces? unions, the changing infrastructure of society itself. >> i think the principal force we have to deal with is really an apathy and on we and a malase in this country where people are resigned to what is the, quote, unquote, new normal. they are being used by democrats almost every day.

you can rationalize a failure to grow jobs and grow an economy. so long as we have a people who after 250 years in this country have been able to create any result they wanted and overcome any challenge. right thousand we have 314 million americans. i promise you, look, no one loves america more than i do. we are going through the list. >> geraldo loves it. >> i have to wait until you finish. i'm lost on which forest and dynamic current. >> you are talking about a complaisant america. it is true. it is almost like we knew this was going to happen. we were settling for a

european style unemployment and there was no way it was going back to where it was. is that true? are we going to be at this place? >> if we continue with these policies we most certainly will be. we are largely there. if we are going to be a two-party political system how about trying it with honesty? that means acknowledge the fact that this economy is already a european socialist economy. we have medicare, medicaid, social security. we have an immense welfare system in this country. corporations are dining out on public money and we talk about socialism. it is here, folks. >> how do you feel about the libertarian aspect of our country and people who are essentially thinking of getting out, like building a sea lab and living on the water in a cakes free ocean some that's what i'm thinking

about. >> i don't know why. 24r* is not much of an escape from it. if you live in this country and work in this country you have certain responsibilities. >> there is not a lot better going on. can't go to venezuela. >> if you want to find that island where you don't have to do much, no government, but there is more to life than that surely. >> where is this island? >> poor andy. >> is that why dennis rodman is in north korea? >> looking for a better political system. >> he said we are just as bad. the book, "upheaval." >> we are done? >> that was it. >> i want that list. >> i will write it down. coming up, iran and on-line chatting. female announcer: get beautyrest, posturepedic,

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we are on at a new time on saturday, 10:00 p.m. eastern, 7:00 p.m. pacific. we have mike baker back. dana perino and sherrod

small. kind of funny. >> e block. last story. that's the last story. >> always a sad sound. it is another ban in iran. the country's supreme leader has issued a religious edict banning men and women from chatting on-line. it was a question sent to him on a website. that's strange. he responded given the immorality that often applies it is not permitted. i like the fact he is so authoritarian and then swallowed an entire cat. joanne, if we did this in america you would probably stay out of trouble and become a far more successful human being instead of slumming it with low lives. >> i would be so lonely. i tweet with these creepy old men on saturday nights. >> really? >> yeah. what would i do with my time? >> are you talking about twitter red eye hash tag fans? >> i love you all. you are great. >> you are not talking about

me? i was happy to get the shoutout. >> i don't know. liz x finally somebody is speaking about this on-line garbage. >> yes, finally cleaning up. seriously iran and they are really tweeting. and he sent this message in a tweet. i mine, really? really? you can't think of other things to do? >> because he is right, liz. sometimes even from a crazy place comes a great idea. >> do you want me to elaborate why it is not great? >> thisng that we carry so deeply about iran that the whole nation shivers. they disappoint our expectations. we are used to the openness and their warmth. and then to see this contraption. >> it is shocking and terrifying at the same time.

maybe the west can learn from the east. >> i hope so. i just think this is another case -- you have a man of faith. >> talk slower because we have a minute. >> you have a man of faith here, a religious leader, giving his opinion on something and we have the secular humanists saying oh you can't say that. that's bad. >> it is a war on fundamentalism. >> they want him to be fired i guess? i don't know. i don't like it. i like the fact that he has, you know, there is a book that is the word of god and he believed believed -- he is trying to get people to follow that and then there are these other people saying you can't say that. i am so sick of this society and i just really wish it would go away. i think the whole world has lost a lot, greg. >> they have lost a lot. >> did i stretch that out long enough? >> can i say how proud i am to be associated with someone who uses the expression secular humanism. i feel elevated myself.

>> and he is so open minded too. >> we have to end this show. joanne, liz, tv's andy levy, lou, that does it for me. i'm greg gutfeld and i will see you tomorrow. it's

proof we really have to follow where money goes, all of it. hello, everyone. i'm dana perino along with andrea tantaros. bob beckel, eric bolling, and greg gutfield. it's 5:00 in new york, and this is "the five." five years ago, in an address to west point cadets, president obama made this major announcement. >> as commander in chief, i have determined it's in our vital national interest to send an additional 30,000 u.s. troops to afghanistan. i do not make this decision lightly. i make this decision because i am convinced that our security is at stake in afghanistan and pakistan. >> and now the man who helped him execute the afghan surge is publicly questioning the