proof we really have to follow where money goes, all of it. hello, everyone. i'm dana perino along with andrea tantaros. bob beckel, eric bolling, and greg gutfield. it's 5:00 in new york, and this is "the five." five years ago, in an address to west point cadets, president obama made this major announcement. >> as commander in chief, i have determined it's in our vital national interest to send an additional 30,000 u.s. troops to afghanistan. i do not make this decision lightly. i make this decision because i am convinced that our security is at stake in afghanistan and pakistan. >> and now the man who helped him execute the afghan surge is publicly questioning the president's commitment to that

decision. in a new book, robert gates recalled a meeting he attended month later at the white house. he said, quote, as i sat there, i thought the president doesn't trust his commander, can't stand karzai, doesn't believe in his own strategy and doesn't consider the war to be his. for him, it's all about getting out. here's charles krauthammer's reaction to that statement. >> think about this. you're the secretary of defense. he's the president, he's sending 30,000 more troops into battle, and three months later, secretary of defense realizes that obama doesn't believe in the surge or believe in the war or believe in his own actions. how can a commander in chief in good conscience do that? i do think this is an indictment of the president that rises above everything else he's done in his presidency. >> i'm going to start with our most recent author of the panel, who has a book coming, do you think that robert gates is breaking any new ground here, or

confirming what a lot of people just suspected all along? >> first of all, since president obama keeps saying pakistan, i'm going to refer to him as the commander in chief. so we learned that president obama -- you can't blame a leopard for his spots. it speaks to a fundamental discomfort that president obama has had with american power all his life. he's cultivated a mindset that the united states is the goliath that needs to be tamed. so now he's in charge of arming the goliath and he doesn't know hoto do it. you don't put a community organizer in the role of the commander in chief. how does this affect the mission? well, people can tell when you're not into a relationship. in this case, he's in a relationship with a war but it's more like a marriage of convenience. it was his beard -- afghanistan was his beard to prove to the world that he wasn't a radical and he was willing to fight.

does that make sense? >> i think so. on a scale of 1 to 10, how damning is it? because a lot of what -- i haven't read the whole book, just a lot of excerpts and commentary about it. it's not all bad for president obama. although, i think that obama and hillary take a couple licks and certainly joe bide en doesn't ce out looking like a rose, smelling like a rose, i should say. >> i am not surprised about what i read in this book. i actually think this whole t topic that we have been talking about and has been on cable news is just another phony scandal. think about it, president obama ran against bush's wars, right? he was supposed to be the non-war president. >> not afghanistan. >> he said that was the good war, but he was never mr. pro war president. i mean, he was always against war, if you look at who he really is. and so i'm not surprised he put half of his heart into this effort. again, that he supported it for political reasons and that hillary did it for political reasons, film at 11:00 on that

one. that's not surprising either. what i think is appalling is his heart wasn't in it and he did do the surge. and he didn't just pull the troops out. he should have just pulled them. he shouldn't have announced a timeline. instead, we spent years and years and year, i believe, wasting blood and treasure to allow towns like fallujah to be retaken by the islamists and spend a lot of money creating a european pension welfare state for a bunch of goat herders. my poopinion. >> before we get to eric and bob, can i play a little bit of sound? the white house was on full alert and started to defend the president and vice president, joe biden. here's a couple former white house staffers. >> i was surprised when i saw the stories yesterday because i always felt they had a good working relationship. he always indicated that he had a good working relationship with the president. >> this rush to do books bike people who leave an administration while the administration is ongoing, i think is unfortunate. it's one thing, as historians look back on an administration,

but in the middle of it, when you're pursuing a war at the same time and one that is very controversial with the american people, and has been very difficult on our military, i think it's just a disservice, to be frank with you. >> eric, in both of those sound bites, you don't have former administration officials disputing the accounts in the book, what actually happened. they're just expressing disappointment. did that surprise you at all? >> i'm not sure. i don't think gates is going to lie about any of the accounts. he literally, on the one where he said president obama and hillary clinton discussed what they were going to do or their opinions on troop surges or pulling back troops based on politics, i found that mind-boggle, mind-blowing our kids are getting blown up by roadside bombs and this is politics. >> that's a story? >> one thing when you're spending money and redistributing wealth, but it's another when you're sending our kids into harm's way. overreaching theory, principle, obama has always been a

liberalidia log, always interest said in social justice over american exceptionalism, but what more perfect example of american exceptalism than our military? of course he's going to pull back on things like our military and push things like redistribution of wealth as his crowning achievement. so i'm not surprised. but i am surprised that gates waited until now to say this stuff. >> that's what i -- actuallyering let's play a quote from somebody, bob, you respect, but you don't always agree with, brit hume, wondering about that very question. i thought we did have brit hume. i have the comment. i can read it. he says nobody comes out of this very well. i might add, he was making on the megyn kelly file, i'm not sure secretary gates comes out of this all that well either. if he thought these things and felt them as strongly as he said he did, one wonders why he stayed as long as he did and why he didn't say something at the time. >> i think it's exactly right.

look, these people who write these books, they have every rights in the world to right them, but i don't think hillary clinton would put a book out while the administration is still in play. it is true, obama has less interest in wars, but let's keep in mind almost every major war in the country, the democrats have been in the white house, and have fulfilled their job as commander in chief, world war i, world war ii, korea, vietnam, so i think it's a little bit lame to be blaming liberals for being weak on wars. the other thing is, i don't think anybody could expect -- >> did anyone here blame liberals for being weak on war? >> you could. you blame liberals on a sore foot. >> i blame president obama. >> okay, fine, you blame obama. okay. all the liberals. but let me say this about hillary clinton. i think she's comes out of this great. everything i have said about her, she's been an exceptional secretary of state, gates backs it up 100%. i think hume is right. gates could have waited. he decided not to, and the other

thing that, what brit said was, why didn't you say something about it? where is the courage to stand up and say this is wrong? he didability have the guts to do it then. >> i don't think it's about bravery or guts. i think it was about respect. one of the things he says is he was so surprised as he was sitting there in the oval office and obama -- or it might have been, i don't know if it was the oval os, but in a white house meeting, that both obama and hillary clinton are talking about very openly how they made political decisions to oppose president bush's surge strategy in 2008. maybe you can paper that over as oh, well, that's politics, but people who oppose hillary clinton say that's one of the reason s judgment wise they dont think she's fit to be commander in chief. >> it's an example of hillary putting politics before people. politics to hillary is the way women are to her husband. she can't turn down an opportunity to score. and this was an opportunity to score. >> is that a republican who has

run for president who has not used politics about foreign policy to make a point. >> very unpopular decisions made by republicans that lost elections. >> don't you have to draw the line between making some decisions and actually sending people into harm's way? >> was this not a question about whether they were going up against each other in the iowa caucuses? >> that was hillary's end. she said i was going up against you, so i took a stance. >> president obama, on the other hand, sent 30,000 troops into harm's way, and three month later, according to gates, saying he didn't think it was the right strategy. noncommittal. nonleadership. >> one of the things gates talks about is the management of the white house and the heavy hand that politics were playing a role, and domestic politics were a consideration in the discussion about foreign policy. do you think that actually is an indictment against the obama administration or most democrats would say, well, that's good? >> i think that, speaking about what the domestic policy was at

the time or where the minds of the american people were, i think they were war-weary at the time. president obama and hillary clinton, based on politics and based on what the public was feeling at that time, really probably wanted to oppose the surge. do, because the american public likely would have been with them, but again, i think hillary clinton wanted to brand herself as a war hawk. she was on the armed services committee. president obama didn't want to look weak, but again, i don't think this is shocking stuff. he's not a pro-war guy. he should have just brought the troops out instead of democracy building in countries that will just never have, and i really think republicans have done this for too long and it's gotten us into pretty tough predoicaments and i agree with bob. a lot has been done for politics, not by everybody, but both sides do it. >> one of the things bob woodward writes in his report today in the washington post is gates' severe criticism is

surprising because at the end of the duty, i believe obama was right in each of these decisions. again, not completely damning for the president. >> one last point, what gates said about congress was exactly right. he called them a bunch of n nincompo nincompoops, none had substance, very few had substance. i was glad to see somebody finally take these guys on, who think they're keen kings and q of the world, who take their own politics and push them through and come out with something they think will help them. >> it certainly was not a pl flattering picture of dwrescong. >> president obama was not put on the planet to rally troops. he was put on the planet to rally activists, and we elected him. kwl and here we are, coming up to the end of an fantastic a-block, and next we'll talk to the rolling stones columnist who defends his role.

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welcome back, everybody. another installment of the fastest seven minutes in cable news or otherwise. seven fascinating sound bites, three fascinating sound bites, seven minutes. first um, figure marxism as socialism on steroids. now look at jesse meyerson trying to explain himself out of an anti-american piece he wrote in "rolling stone." he set up the controversy. listen to the comment. >> the right wing had basically never heard of me untat this twit from the national review tweeted out this article friday night at 9:00. once that membrane was punctured, all of the bigoted and hateful violent muck and

filth do doed all over. and it has basically not let up in the intervening few days. >> full communism is sort of a tongue in cheek joke, but i'll cop to identifying as a communist, and i'm happy to defend my political identity, but basically, the backlash was all about my political identity, and none of it mentioned the thing i wrote. >> anyone else want to puke listening to these guys? >> it was like watching two pajama boys trying to explain what they were going oo do that night. it really is. like they were comparing dolphin tattoos on their ankles, but this is great. i'll tell you why, because this is where this nonsense should exist. i would rather have communism being discussed by two dweebs on a panel, on a show nobody watches, than an ideology systematically killing 100 million people. keep communism on there, go for it, talk about it, but i love the upspeak, oh, my god. >> oh, my god.

if you read the article, it looked like a parody at first, maybe it was, not it's getting back to now it's a parody after all. >> communism is a parody. what he's saying doesn't make any sense. jesse meyerson, if he really believes what he says, should give them 100% of his earnings and whatever he makes from writing these crappy rolling stone articles and his purple sweater and everything else to the government. what i find is funny is if what he says becomes true, the government takes over the newspapers and the magazines and mr. meyerson won't be able to, i'm sure, write these crappy columns anyone. >> roll some video. those are your peeps, right there. those two guys. >> yeah, well, i will say this. why we're even discussing this is beyond me, but what he did say that i think, he made one point that i think is important, that nobody really did talk about the points he made, like steve banks, who i'm in favor of, but the rest of it was off

the wall, a lot off the wall, but nobody talks about the substance. they talked about him, making fun of him, and that's what we're doing. >> that's the point he was saying. >> he's -- he said the same thing you said, everybody is attacking him ratherthen the stubstance of the piece, but the intro talked about communism, marxism. >> and on monday, you had a rousing debate about public banks and state banks. >> he's against them, i'm for them. >> the uptalking at the end of every sentence, it's not helping any millennial. you've got to stop it. if your employees do it, stop them, because you will not get promoted, they will not be taken seriously. you cannot understand a word he was saying because it was so annoying. >> he should be working at the piercing pagoda at the mall. >> i got my ears pierced there. >> as a white conservative, if i disagree with a liberal who happened to be black like president obama or reverend jesse, liberals full in the blogs like he's a racist.

so what are they going to say about jason riley, a respected columnist for the washington journal. >> there's a pattern of hiring people like melissa harris-perry, eric dyson, and reverend sharpton to raise things. they say racially inflammatory things, they bring race into discussions where it doesn't belong, and their take is ba basically all of black people's problems are caused by white people, and if you disagree with that, you're a racist. >> hard pressed to come up with something for that. >> i watches on c-span the other day, a panel, and at tulane university where melissa harris-perry, who is a professor there, the race-baiting that took place, a lot of people don't watch c-span, was shocking. i don't think they do it to be shocking. i think a lot of these commentators and hosts deeply believe what they're saying. i think that's really the

problem, they're not doing it for shock value. they really believe it. >> thoughts, bobby? >> my thought is i think this guy was way over the line. i don't watch msnbc because nobody else does, and you can't talk about it. but the fact of the matter is that to suggest that black commentators are in the business of race-baiting all the time is absolutely absurd. it's ridiculous. let's talk about conservative black people, aren't they wonder? he's an idiot. >> if you disagree with a liberal, you're a racist. >> are you saying jason riley is an idiot? >> i do, for that comment. >> maybe you should probably qualify it. i would just recommend to people, if you're looking for a black intellectual conservative to follow, his writing is top-notch. he's written amazing things about education and educational choice and he's an excellent voice for conservative point of view, and i think he's a very fair person and one i would seek out. >> msnbc is the match.com for

victims of perceived injustice. it's why their audience has the combined spine of a custard. it's a network for tear ducts. >> nice. >> finally, bob costas was on a talk show and suggested the olympics were getting a little too x-gamy for his liking. he got buzz, but when he repeated that to matt lauer, he probably forgot the olympics were being hosted by nbc, lower's boss. open mouth, insert both feet, costas, again. >> i think the president of the ioc should be johnny knoxville, because knbasically, this is ju jack ass stuff, but they invent it and call it olympic sports. >> you mean that in a good way. >> in the nicest way. >> it's ridiculous they put the x-games guy in there. you talk about the voice rising at the end. i mean, those guys -- well, you know. >> what about your buddy at t e times square? he was a snowboarder. >> snowboarder is a little different than what this is.

snowboarding, this is snowboarding but all kinds of tricks and games and they have judges. i don't like judges in the olympics. they're a bad idea. >> everyone gets a medal. everyone gets the same medal. >> in racing, you win by having the best time. >> bob, this is an opportunity for you to say something nice about greeks, maybe, in the ancient greeks and tradition. you want to take that opportunity or no? >> i think let's move all the olympics full-time to greece and maybe that would help them with their economy. >> it's all about the ratings. >> but what bob costas is saying for his generation, he's looking at t he thinks it's ridiculous, but what do the olympics need. you need to keep people interested. you need the nixon watch crowd. a friend of mine created nixon watches, they sell things to the surfing, skateboarding crowd. you want those people to watch the olympics. you could have curling for the old people and snow sloping for

the young people. i can't even do that very well. >> iyou know, i don't have much to say about costas, but matt lauer is turning into sigmund freud. what's happening. >> we'll leave it there. >> a big mist rafor gun owners. great news out of chicago where there was an important win for the second amendment. greg has the details coming up.

federal judge struck down chicago's ban on gun sales calling it unconstitutional. u.s. district judge edmund chang said it didn't go with the statistics that bad guys rarely buy weapons from licensed

dealers. they are nonchalant about gun bans. who does this decision affect? to me, it's a win for gays, minorities, and women. minorities can now protect themselves. this is key since surveys of felons say the biggest factor in choosing a victim is whether they're armed or not. as for gays, there's no better way to reduce gay bashing than being strapped. talk about real equality. finally, for women, who on average have less muscle mass than men, a snub nose on your hip is a great equalizer, far better than a gym membership. who needs a stair climber when you have a smith and wesson. go ahead, work on your glute, but also carry a glock. as new research shows that more legal guns means less crime, this ruling is a win. not just for all those gun nuts the media mocks, but for everyone else who deserves a fighting chance against thieves. and it underlines one great truth, that in a world where evil preys on the most

vulnerable, keeping the peace means keeping a piece. >> oh, i see what you did there. >> a little play on words. haven't done that before. >> andrea, is this because most of the facts -- the judge is basically saying the facts that gun control advocates use aren't bearing out anything real? more legalized guns doesn't mean more gun murder? >> i think this judge is specifically looking at precedent from the supreme court, if you look at the heller case. it says you cannot -- you can have -- you can't have a law, i should say, that stops you from having a gun in your own home. this judge, even though he was appointed by president obama, he's on solid judicial ground. we're just so used to judges ruling different ways, we're shocked when one follows the letter of the law. but you made the best point in your monologue, greg. look at laws like stop and frisk, stand your ground. they disproportionally benefit

african-americans, women. they should have guns. we should be allowed to defend ourselves. in chicago, it's in just a case study, you don't need any other facts besides strictest gun laws, highest crime rate. who is most effective? >> bob, you're grinning. >> because i wanted to see if you could repeat again the thing about the gays. why it's helpful for the gays, but that's okay. first of all, it's not the murder capital of the world. chicago has had a plummeting murder rate in the last 12 months. >> that is true. >> it is true. you can argue that there's a new police chief, but the fact is it's gone way down. >> because it was so high. >> they didn't have anywhere else to go. >> i'm not going to argue with you about this because i know i'm outnumbered 4 to 1. last year, about 560 children were killed in accidents with guns in a home. that to me, and all the handguns, if i were ruling the world and the country, there would be no handguns. you could have long rifles, but the idea that -- listen, too

many children are dying as a result of these things. i think it's a mistake. if the nra wants to do something, another kid got killed this month. go to his funeral this week. >> emotional response. >> i have a hunch there are 100 or 200 things that killed more kids than guns last year. choking on a hotdog probably is one of them. you don't want to ban hotdogs, i assume? >> that's a different situation. >> the gun debate is kind of like the climate change, global warming debate in reverse. in global warming, the liberals say, no, it's really bad. you have to trust us. we don't have the stats to back it up. trust us. gun debate, we have the stats. but we don't want you to trust the stats. but in both cases, we have to trust the liberals that they know what's best. >> stats by all the right-wing gun nuts. i forwarded a thing that said -- wait a second. you're telling me that you're

going to fall back on that florida study, right? >> you always use the florida study, but that's not the only study, bob. there's more and more research that shows more legal gun ownership does not translate into more murders. >> there's also a bug on the bottom that says national rifle association. >> it wasn'tint this study that shows most restricted states had 10% lower murder rate. this is a quote from the detroit police chief, james craig. he said, basically, he said more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them. that's pretty strong and from the detroit police chief. >> from somebody in the know, somebody who is experiences and wants people to help them help themselves. >> one thing none of the studies do is what people really react to is not just necessarily handgun violence. it's the mass murders that happen, like at sanda hook. that is still a mental health issue. it's not necessarily a gun control issue. that is something that i think the administration is giving it a shot, but that's the toughest

nut to crack. >> yes. it's also the smallest -- there is a belief that these mass crime -- shooting sprees are on the increase, and they're not. >> let me ask you, just to throw this out here for all you gun supporters. if this child who was killed two weeks ago, his father was indicted because he left his gun out. could you agree that anybody who leaves their gun unlocked in a house ought to be indicted if somebody gets killed? >> i think it's a problem, yes. >> do you think it's the biggest problem related to gun control? no. more kids die from medical malpractice, swimming pools. the list goes on and on. it's a fundamental right, the liberals love to interpret. if you start to interpret the second amendment and say it doesn't really go that way? we going to interpret the third and fourth? >> people have a right -- >> you forgot the other part, a

right to keep and bare arms. >> i accept it, it doesn't mean i have to like it, right? i think they're dangerous things and we're a gun society, and most legitimate societies around the world who don't allow guns, kids don't get killed. >> i think we can all agree that we don't like it when kids get killed, but the point is the safest people are the people with the guns. >> there's no indication it's safer in britain. >> how many kids in great britain do you think were killed with guns. >> handguns are banned and the death rate by gun isn't any lower than it is here. >> we have to roll. we can do that tomorrow. >> ahead, more controversy for "elle" magazine. did the fashion publication intentionally hide the body -- sounds like she's dead -- hide the body of one of the actresses featured on the cover next month? the s'motory kept me up all nig. that's next on "the five."

well, four hollywood starlets are featured on alternating covers of the new women in tv edition of elle magazine, but one of them doesn't look like the rest, and critics have taken notice. they show mindy kaling, allison williams, amy poehler, and zooey deschanel. look at kalings cover on the far left. hers is a crop shot while the others have full body shown. some say it's an effort to hide kaling's curves, but elle is dismissing the controversy saying she looks sexy, beautiful, and chic. kaling herself tweeted that she loves her cover and that it made her feel glamorous and cool. so i do think she looks great. greg, there is a difference on how they portrayed her versus these other models with much smaller frames. you used to work as a magazine

editor. >> true. >> deliberate to hide a size 8, which is like a size 20 in the fashion world? >> we used to do this all the time with fat people. it's disgusting. you know, this is another -- it's media generating direct. she's a beautiful girl, very funny. who cares if she's big or small? i'm just mad there's no men on the cover. it's pretty sexist on ell ere p. there are men on tv. >> elle is a french pronoun for a woman. >> i don't care, elle. >> anti-male. is it really a big deal? i have a recent vogue magazine, dana, and it's jennifer lawrence, who is beautiful and has a hot body, and they crop her. it's just a head shot. much to do about nothing? >> yes, very much to do about nothing. much, much, much squared. because elle magazine knows how to sell magazines. the cover is the most important thing, right? is that right? >> i guess so. i lost interest. >> plus, i think, if she's happy with it, great.

>> what do you think, eric? fashion industry doesn't like big girls? >> they did it four different occasions. they all look fabulous, they all look terrific. no one is offended. the only people who are offended are some people who make a living out of being offended about stuff. >> they had melissa mccarthy on the cover, and there was a big to-do about the fact they hid her in a big jacket rather than celebrate her curves. bob is drooling over here, enamored by the covers on the big screen. bob, would you like to join the discussion? >> yeah, sure. hated it. >> totally. >> totally. >> duh. >> first of all, can you -- i don't know how you picked it up. this is a classic example of why i hate fashion. obvious, obvious. this thing is about 15 pounds, right? this is one magazine. >> fall fashion. >> are you kidding me? >> think about global warming effects. while you're talking, let me ask you about this because i know

you'll have a very big, strong opinion on this one. shakira says she's married to a guy who loves her curves. she doesn't care what the fashion industry says. she happens to have a husband who says this. now here is shakira quoted. she says, my man, gerard, prefers meat over bone. he doesn't like too skinny. that takes the pressure off. i already have a lot to worry about. what do you think? >> i think she's exactly right. i'm for a man who likes meat on the bone. some of those women are so skinny, they're the poster children for anorexia. who cares. except for the one williams daughter. >> very good looking. >> brian williams -- not juan williams' daughter. >> sorry, juan. >> brian williams' daughter, allison williams, you find adirective? >> yes, i do. very much so. >> greg, what do most men prefer, again, having edited a man's magazine. i am lucky, i date guys who like curves because i'm not a bean pole. >> you know, guys aren't picky.

my point with this -- with the shakira thing, she's not fat. i get more bothered when hot pop singers or models talk about how, people don't mind when i gain weight. it's because you were already bone thin a month ago. >> first of all, i'm fat. that woman is not fat. i think she's good looking. >> but her hips don't lie, dana. she's known for having hips and a bottom, and she shakes it. >> i think she's adorable. i loved her on "the voice" and i couldn't name a song she sings, but i think she's so great. i think she's great, a great role model. >> wonderful. >> eric? >> isn't it about time? >> no, no, i see you nodding your head over there. what do you think shakira -- her boyfriend loves her curls. >> that's all it's about, loving your woman, your woman loving you back. doesn't matter what you like, thin, heavy. >> follow it wherever it goes.

>> okay, stop. time-out. bob, you're in the time-out. >> with a shovel, stop digging? >> i haven't dug a hole yet. >> what is it you like about allison williams? >> okay. >> let's get to the next segment. >> how young is too young to work in america? one governor thinks kids as young as 12 should be allowed to work in his state. we'll tell you what we think when we come back.

we didn't get to the bikini bit, so we'll go to the governor of maine who wants kids to get to work. he's hoping to ease kiechild la restrictions to be eased. he said, quote, we don't allow children to work until they're 16, but two years later, they can go to war and fight for us. i started working far earlier than that, and it didn't hurt me at all. there's nothing wrong with being a paper boy at 12 years old. >> this is great, i'm so for this. i think it's fantastic. a big part of the country, kids

are helping out in the farms and what not. they're driving a lot -- in some places, you can get a driver's license at 14 or younger. it's fantastic, about time some of the liberal east coasters catch wind of this. yeah, i sold newspapers. delivered newspapers. i also, my father was a traveling salesman for a plastic company, right, so they would get these bags, boxes of plastic garbage bags and i would go in and roll ten up, put a tie on it, and sell it for a buck, door to door. you do it, get it done. you teach kids the right thing. my kid is 15, and i have to push him, start working. feel what it's like to earn something. >> dana, did you work when you were young? >> yeah, i would baby sit and things like that. >> how old? >> i would guess 12, 13, for neighborhood kids. you can't get a young, teenage babysitter anymore. >> you can't? greg still baby sits. >> it's amazing. when a 49-year-old man shows up to baby sit, they're often quite

concerned, especially when they didn't call you. >> and you're not wearing pants. >> i disagree with this. i think they shouldn't get a job until they're 26. if you're going to be on your parents' insurance, i don't want you to get hurt. i think you should stay at home in your pajamas and talk like this, oh, my god, i don't have to work today. i'm going to read rollingstone.com. >> can't you envision greg in pajamas. >> do we have to? >> go to my website. >> you started working in your restaurant at 3, right? >> 9. >> oh, my god, really? >> i was a bus girl. i used to clean the tables. stan there with a bus pan and clean the tables and clean up children's cheerios which they drop on the floor, parents, pick up the cheerios, please. that's a pain. >> i'm all for this. i started work when i was very young. i worked on a garbage truck, which is probably not surprising. i did -- i was a dishwasher. all that stuff, before i was 15. and the other thing about today is kids are getting so soft that

they all come to their parents for money. they don't get jobs. there's plenty of jobs, they're exactly right, plenty of places they can work. they're not pushing people out of the labor force, people to mow lawns and things like that. they should work. they don't learn the value of a dollar. >> it's about work ethic. when you get out of college and you can't get a job, you'll do any job, waitress, do anything, because you know you have to make your own money. >> i went to work at a funeral parlor. >> all right, one more thing is up next.

time now for one more thing, but bob, since you were talking, you get to go first. >> okay, today, if you have been alive, the greatest muziegz in the history of the world including beethoven, bach, and all those old people, elvis presley, would have been 79

today. the king of rock 'n' roll, one of his great songs. ♪ let's rock everybody let's rock ♪ ♪ we're dancing to the jailhouse rock ♪ >> my man. >> where are the rest of those guys? what are they doing? >> cocaine overdoses. >> they're probably all alive. they're his age. >> if you were in that video, call us. bob would love to take you to dinner. >> if you survive being a musician to 79 -- >> as long as you keep playing, you can live a long time. >> and if you eat your fruits and vegetables. >> your turn. >> resurrected parade. snap. that's what happens when it gets really cold. it's called a snap. let's use it. stop with the polar vortex. >> did you ban polar vortex? >> no, i didn't. i just like the word snap.

it's a cold snap. >> can i use it in the context of, oh, snap? >> i don't know. >> you can use it when discussing rice krispies. it's my favorite of the crispies. >> the first one. >> i love that. >> when it gets really, really soggy. >> i hate that. that's the worst part. okay, andrea. >> okay, so there's nothing more annoying when you ask people for freezing cold pictures and they send you sunny pictures on the beach. that's what they did yesterday here at "the five." jimmy kimmel knew that better than anybody, so he had one of his guys go out to talk to some los angeles people on the beach and see what happens when they started to brag about their warm climate. >> hi to all our friends back home. >> we're here in cali and it's 70. walking on the beach. >> we were tanning so we'll come back all bronzed. >> snowball! >> i want to say hi to my entire family back in new york who is freezing their [ bleep ] off while i'm in beautiful california.

>> snow bucket. >> genius. >> don't send warm pictures back to your friends back east if you're in california. >> only freezing ones, only when i do it. >> tomorrow, president obama is going to announce what he calls five promise zones. san antonio, philly, l.a., southeastern kentucky, and oklahoma, where tax incentives and grants will battle poverty, but he calls these things promise zones. president obama promises. do we have any other promises he's recently made? >> if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan. period. if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. >> just because you can't go a day without it, right? >> my one more thing. >> you always interrupt me. that was very political to dump that on there. >> i'm going to save my one more

thing and pitch it for a topic tomorrow. >> oh. >> because i feel like i really need to apologize to everybody who loves curling. i didn't mean you're old. i just meant it's a sport that's been on for a long time and older viewers might prefer to watch curling. >> i would like to apologize for dana apologizing. we've got to stop with these apologies. stop apologizing. >> i do not apologize for my position on guns. i know you're already tweeting me. >> if you like curling and want to direct yourire at someone, direct it to greg. >> direct it at me. i'm not going to apologize. >> we'll be back here tomorrow. "special report" is next. it is thursday, january 9th.

former secretary robert gates, blasting the obama leadership. and record bitter chill, now on its way out. we're kicking it to the curb. and don't celebrate just yet. the new threat, bursting pipes and swollen rivers. tracking the latest weather map. and a disturbing video goes viral. a toddler being taught to be a street thug. >> now, the police reposting this video under fire. did they cross a line? we report. you decide. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪

morning. it is thursday almost to the weekend. "fox & friends first" starts now. i am ainsley earhardt. >> i am heather childers. thank you for starting your day with us. this morning the white house is in full damage control mode reacting to highly critical remarks about the president and vice president from former defense secretary robert gates. >> elizabeth prann is live in washington with the white house's surprising defense of vice president joe biden. >> you are right. jay carney was on the defensive after details surfaced of robert gates' up coming book. he dee mid accusati-- denied acs against the current administration. >> we focused and made