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fast in the mountains. >> it is nice to have a story with a happy ending. >> very nice. >> thanks for joining us today. >> america's news headquarters starts right now. >> obama care has a new problem about that? we are about to find out. i am bill hemmer. >> and i am alisyn camerota. we are awaiting a briefing where the latest enrollment numbers show fewer young people are signing up. bret baier is here. great to see you. we know that 24 percent of the people are 35 years old and younger and the administration hoped that number would be close to 40. how big of a problem is that? >> if you ask the analyst and insurance industry it is a big problem. they look at the number and equation and what the pool looks
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like, it just doesn't add up to the numbers they need. the administration said that they believe like in massachusetts, that young people come in at the end, like toward the deadline of march 31st. that's fine if they do, if they don't, it is a situation where insurance companies could reicalulate the premiums that everyone pays before the next round of premium adjustments later on this year. >> so in 14 minutes from now. we expect jay carney to come out in the white house briefing. and is that how he will spin it? there is a trend in the upswing and waiting to see until march? >> definitely. he will say the numbers have gone exponentially up since the launch that they concede was disastrous. and i bet jay carney will look
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to massachusetts. a lot of those young people didn't come in until the end. the question is, alisyn, all of the polls and people who are uninsured. they are not buying in to obama care and not saying that that is the right choice for them according to the polls. and if that trend holds, there could be a big problem. the big hinge here that is legislative, is whether the insurance companies will get a massive bail out, if it doesn't all come together by the end of the year. >> that is a big question. if the numbers don't add up, then what? the administration hasn't given us the scenario. and you have marco rubio with the legislation that the insurance company should not get the bail out if the numbers don't add up for obama care and
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i bet you will see the republicans push that. that is the escape hatch. if the administration doesn't meet the targets. they say there is not numbers and targets they are trying to hit. but if you ask the people on the hill, they are looking at the congressional budget office. 7 million signed up by march and the right equation of young people in the mix. >> one of the things to see is more outreach to young people, what does that look like? >> it looks like more money spent and ads targeting young people and groups going out with the recruitment of hollywood stars to make pitches about obama care. i bet you will see that in the coming weeks. >> brett, one last thing, we heard from the administration that it doesn't matter young versus old, the metric to look
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at is sick versus data. how many people signing up are truly sick or how many are healthy? >> we don't have the data. the demographic break down female to male. and more females than male and more older people than younger people as the percentages we talked about. the other people we have from yesterday's number. four out of five people signing up so far qualified for some kind of a federal subsidy on a federal level. that is a tax credit situation that is interesting. >> those are something. we'll see what else the white house has to say. brett, thank you for breaking it down. >> negotiators reached a deal on a 1.2 trillion there budget. this is after three years of bitter battle. with me now best selling author called upheffal.
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lou dobbes. lou, congratulations to you on the new book. and what about the budget deal, great or not? >> it is a great deal. no one is trying to shut down the government or negotiate last- minute nonsense as we witnessed from the white house and congress over the last previous two years. this takes care of this year's fiscal document. it is in my opinion, obviously too much. but it is not well spent and it wouldn't be our government if it was otherwise. but it resolves the spending and brings a degree of order and reasonable expectation. >> wow, that is a reaction i did not expect from you. >> yeah. >> what does it do to cut in the 17 trillion in debt? >> not a thing. unless you include the billion dollars out of the provention of the public health slush fund
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that the congress could have got ep rid of altogether. 15 or 25 billion and they decided 1 billion just to teach, just to teach the white house a lesson. i mean, bill, as you know. >> lou, you side with barbara, the democrat from maryland, she said it puts the end to shut down, slow down politics. >> i love her reititration that is more powerful than my own. it is over a trillion dollars and wraps up for fiscal 14 and brace ourselves and get ready for a joyous new fiscal year come october 1st of this year. >> i am seeing a smile and not just because of the book. >> tell me about upheaval. what is the point you are making there? >> it is a thinking person's guide to how to fix the mess that is this country and help
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the republicans if you will be a counter veiling influence against the democrats, and one program after another that doesn't work. the problem is, republicans need a little help. they need ideas, their leadership about how to lead. and strength to lead and to make the tent bigger instead of collapse it and also embrace the tea party rather than pushing them out of the tent. we have some characters in the republican party, and this is just a little test for them. >> all right. we'll take the test then. i know you have worked on it a couple of years. look forward to seeing your ideas in the book. >> thank you, lou dobbes. >> tell me what you think about the budget deal? find me in bill hemmer fnc.
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>> we are waiting for reaction from the white house about the documents that the president and military advisors knew that the attack in benghazi was terrorism. yet they said it was a spontaneous demonstration that led to the death of your americans, inwhich you hadding ambassador ste ph ans. >> we hear for the first time the sworn testimony of general carter ham. and he debunks speculation that he was removed because he wanted to do more than he was allowed to do by the superiors and white house. chairman of the armed services did the questioning. this is from mckown. you were prepared to go to their aid and someone told you no. and you said you are going anyway.
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is that a supposition? he replied. no one ever told me no. >> and they did what they could with what they they had. asets were not in position to launch a timely response. for example, there were no u.s. marines in libya despite leon panetta after the september 2011 visit. they were unarmed. and no mention made in the transcripts of gun ships being available that night. and perhaps most vexing was the decision to make the fast team of marines sent as a quick reaction from spain to deplane
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and change out of uniforms and delaying them for an hour. general ham pushed back against the sending the f- 16 to fly over benghazi would have made a difference. there are differences of opinion and this is the first time we hear from general carter ham himself. >> that clarifies a lot and raises more questions. >> president obama hailing a nuclear deal with iran that is supposed to curb teheran. >> and what will chris christie say. he is facing a widening scandal of widening allegations of political revenge. he will address the law makers that are launching investigations. >> hostage drama here. police facing one of the
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governor chris christie's state of the state address getting national attention today. christie will speak to new jersey law makers in two hours. he will address the bridge scandal that is rocking his administration. democratic legislators are launching two special committees to investigate whether political pay back paid a role in the bridge closing. they are live from the state capitol in trenton. what is the latest today, eric? >> reporter: the governor will talk about education and
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property reform taxes and everybody here wants to hear what he said about the bridge scandal. he will give the state of the state speech. usually they are regulated to congratulations and the chief executive laying out the legislative agenda. this years different with the new committees under way. some legislators want criminal charges against the christie appoint authority ee who took the fifth before the committee hearing last week. and subpeonas are expected to be issued to two close christie aides. one to bridgeit kelly the fired chief of staff whose e-mail ordered the closure and christie's former long- time campaign manager. some democrats don't buy christies denials that he knew about it, others on both sided of the aisle give him a benefit
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of doubt. >> for me, and the people of new jersey, honestly, i hope it works out that he didn't. if he department, it is bad for the state and really bad for the people of the state, and then different type, obviously whatever actions are necessary will be taken. >> we know by the e-mails that they are troublesome. what i don't want to see a political environment exists as opposed an investigative environment. when you see law enforcement do it many times it is not political. but state house politicians doing it, you have to be careful. >> reporter: the governor is fulfilling his duties. he will go to florida this weekend to attend private fundraisers for the fellow governor rick scott of the sunshine state. first time governor christie
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will step out on the national stage sense the scandal broke. >> we'll see what happens less than two hours from now. thank you so much. my preference is for peace and diplomacy and now is not the time to impose new sanctions. now is time to allow the diplomats and technical experts to do their work. we'll be able to monitor and verify whether or not the interim agreement is followed through on and if it is not we'll be in a strong position to respond. >> that was the response from the president. he wants to hold off on new safrpgzs against iran. the iranian president told the crowd in teheran that it was a surrender by the west. the former israeli ambassador to the un and mr. ambassador, it is good to see you.
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you say this deal is not a deal at all? what is it? >> it is a sellout. it is a sellout. it truly is a victory for iran. my advice to the american people, to congress, is don't listen to just the president. don't listen to the israel prime minister and don't listen to me. listen to the iranians and believe them. they mean what they say. the iranians say it is a for iran and a surrender for the big power. >> you brought it up. that's what rahaany said. our relationship is based on iranian's nation's interest. and geneva world powers surrendered to the iranian nation's will. >> it doesn't need interpretation. he says what he means.
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the foreign minister said this is played on our home ground. we can do whatever we want. whatever we disconnect today, we can connect tomorrow. we the jewish people paid a horrendous price when we didn't listen to the crazy dictator 60 years ago. hitler was ranting around europe. millions and millions including 6 million jews paid the price. believe them when they say they want to wipe israel off of the map and believe them when they say you are the big sattan. don't make the deals. >> are you comparing rouhani to adolph hitler. >> i don't think anyone can compare to adolph hitler. but i think the iranians, they are a terrorist state. terror was never addressed in the agreement. iran yeah support of terrorist groups and hams and hesbollah,
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and arming of those slaughtering their people. and this is as if you are dealing with your next door neighbor. you are not. we are dealing with a terrorist state that is terrorizing the world and main pep traitor of terror and you sign a deal and by just signing it you solved the problem? >> you have a democratic president who is opposed by members of his own party saying they want the sanctions in place or add to them. what is the rationale, why? why does the president want the sanctions to be eased? >> i think this president doesn't want another war and neither do we or anyone else. i think this president is probably still tired of the traumas of afghanistan and iraq and the american people are as well. and he wants to try every means to solve it diplomatically, that
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is right, but at the same time don't she the weakness. i know mohammed sarif who negotiated this deal. he served with me at un ambassador, as iran's ambassador to the un when i was israel puss buzz. he smiles, but what happened in geneva, he felt as on the other side, i tired and weak america and a europe that is dying to do business with iran. and manipulated and got the best agreement he could and they are celebrating it now. this celebration is not the birth of a new baby. it is a birth of a monster, believe me. >> mr. ambassador, thank you for your time. we'll speak again, sir. >> i hope so, thank you very much. >> gentlemen, thank you. there is a new lead in the disappearance of madeline mccan who disappeared in 2007.
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we are now hearing a frantic 911 call released by fleece new jersey from a deadly carjacking outside of a busy shopping mall in. the husband left dying on the parking deck and the desperate wife pleading with the dispatcher. >> 911, is this an emergency. >> yes, it is an emergency. called the ambulance. >> they are on the way.
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it is tough to listen to. it took 18 minutes for the ambulance and the responders could not reach the victim because the ambulance was too tall for the parking deck. four men who allegedly took off in the couple's suv were caught and charged with murder. to another terrible crime case. is this a break through in the madeline mccann case. british police appear to be close to making an arrest. made vanished in port you goal and police are there to arrest three suspected burglars accused of robbing the resort where madeline was last season at three years old. today she would be ten years old. mark furman joins us on the phone.
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when dow think of this development. british police are going to interview or arrest three suspected burglaries that were in the area that night made disappeared. >> what is interesting about this. they are using phone contacts between the three individuals that were supposed to be at the resort. they don't know the content of that. that is imaginary evidence right now. and then the biggest problem that i see, you have three possible suspects, and you alert them internationally in the media that you are coming to talk to them and allow them to speak between themselves or simply disappear. the correct would be say nothing to nothing and intercept all three in the same time and interview them separately and you might glean evidence if they are in fact the suspect. >> that is weird we all know
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about this before they were arrested, perhaps the british police are working in tannedum with the portuguese police. but mark, what do make of the notion in general, burglaries and petty thieves don't abduct children. is it possible that it was a crime of opportunity and they were not intending to abduct anybody and maybe went in and saw the three-year-old girl and decided to take her? >> you look at the situation. it is a low- level resort burglary and they are looking for money, jewels and electronics to carry on their person and they are two- bit criminals. they will take a 2 or 3 year sentence if they are caught and turn it into life in prison without the possibility of parole. and on the face, it is ridiculous. and the second opinion of scotland yard is, and absent of any we know, that the burglars went in to the
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mccann apartment and startled the child, a three-year-old child and you take the child, that is absurd. how about just turn around and leave? >> mark, is it possible that madeline mccann is still alive sen years after her disappearance? is it possible that someone solid her to a child trafficking ring and what are the chances of being found alive? >> i think there is always chances and there is always possibilities. you have to look at this on face value. first, someone who have to have knowledge that the mccanns are at dunner and there was no adult in the residence and they leave no forensic evidence or to the print they were there. and now three burglars that came in and they didn't leave a hair or fiber or dna or finger print and nothing and took a child? to me, this has more, this whole case has more questions than answers. >> mark, you know what the
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mccanns say that the portuguese investigators botched the case and perhaps there was evidence and they missed it in targeting the parents right away. >> i am not to impressed with port you goal. what are they doing with the three burglars last seven years? they know they are burglars and why rrnt they in jail and questioned and investigated. it is absurd and on the face, i have a feeling that we are getting duped in some way and there is much more information. quite possibly, obtained in some other way than legal channels and they know more than we do. >> that is comforting, and not that we are dupe but perhaps they know more information than they are letting o. let's hope they have development and we can get the piece of the puzzle solved. >> can i add one thing.
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>> yes. >> if you go to a new's organizations. sometimes they are being surveilled and you want them to move or run or make contacts because you have an eye on them. if that is the case, it might be a crafty investigative tool. if they don't, it is a mistake. >> we'll see what happens over the investigation. >> the white house needs young people to sign up for obama care. how will they do it this time? we are about to find out. >> what caused this man to shot a man in colorado. >> the accused is in court right now. what is data rage, that is next. >> this situation over a cell phone use, to escalate that high? i can tell you, it is very scary, for the fact that two is a movie theater. óqoqúúñ@
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time now for a quick check of the head lines, at least two kids injured in a school shooting in ros well, new mexico. the suspect in custody and school is on lock down and parents told to pick their kids up at a nearby mall. >> southwest airline grounding the piles of the plane that landed in the wrong airport.
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no one was injured in missouri. >> if you want to quit your job. there is a quit your job app. takes you through a series of steps why they are resigning and crafts a text message that is sent to your boss. >> that is dangerous. >> right. >> especially if someone gets your phone. >> sure, >> and puts on your app. >> ripe for abuse. >> we want to know today. >> what do you quit your job fantasy. tell us the best way you have imagined quitting your job. >> you have 24 minutes to do it. send us a tweet at bill hemmer. >> and the at me at alisyn camerota. >> in the young adults not signing up to the obama care. >> they are the president's base and so why is the white house having a hard time connecting with them. jonathan is a republican strategist and director of super
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pa c american cross roads. and marjorie clifton is a former consultant of the obama came and ceo of clifton consults. >> the administration hoped to have 40 percent of the young people they define 18- 34-year-olds and by noonly 24 percent. what do the numbers tell us? >> the framework of obama care and logic was the idea that young people and healthy people would sign up to cover the costs and regulations of the program. they are 40 percent off of the target and if the enrollment dead line ended today. we would be in a death spiral. not enough people are in the system and that means rates will be hiked and people dropout. that's the situation we are facing. it shoes no signs of abating what so ever, it is a problem. especially for people who think that obama care will not impact
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them at all. their rates go up, too. >> how do they change the strategy or make it more attractive other than a guy hanging out in pajamas and sipping on hot chocolate. >> this was part of the strategy and health care analyst knew they would be the late newcomers to sign up. 40 percent of the uninsured in 2012 were of the same age group. not surprising numbers and according to the ka iser number is 25 percent. we are one percentage below and march 31st being the deadline. >> it is not cpr but the defibalator is not put away entirely. how do you change the strategy to get the numbers higher. >> the plan, they hired communication folks for the folks who worked on obama campaign. it is part education. they have set up the penalties
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that are part of the edkagdz process. first and second and third year, it is only $95 to pay a penalty to not get the health care plan. but once they go on the site, one of the coolest thing. it is like a o'rbitz. we have transparency in the plans and that will drive prices down. >> that was a problem originally you couldn't compare when healthcare.gov was originally launched. secretary sebelius is encouraged by the trend lines and seeing more people seening up in december than november. she saidine at the present levels it can still work. >> this is pure spin. i don't see how they can be pleased with a number 40 percent off of the goal. it doesn't make sense. we don't know how many people are paying for the program. two of the largest health care companies extended dead lines for payments because people were
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not paying. if you are not paying for the program you are not signed up. and the daily caller is reporting that only eight percent of the people in connecticut have paid. >>un oh. >> if that is combfrp near correct it is like 18 or 20 percent. >> we are out of time. marjorie, you are in the colume of hope and hoping that it happens. and we'll bring you back later in the week. thank you very much. sfshgs and now to this troubling story. no bond for a retired police captain shooting a victim in the movie theater because he was texting. 71-year-old curtis reeves got in an argument popcorn was thrown and then a gun shot and now a 43-year-old father is dead. dr. keith ably is a member of the team and doctor, can you explain this?
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>> in order to explain this in the spectaculars, you would have to know the man involved and the man who was the assailant and killed another individual. we may have to look at something i call data rage like road rage. we know that when people interact with machines, sometimes they feel emboldened to do things they never would and it is frustrating and people who are vulnerable and explosive and add in technology and a machine, and things can go over the top. >> but keith. >> and be violent. >> dr. ably. you are blaming the victim? >> not at all. >> the victim was allegedly texting and the alleged shooter was ticked off his movie viewing was interrupted and they had a verbal alteroccasion and then the victim allegedly tossed or
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threw popcorn. >> we have to blame the shooter here. but in understanding it, wow, it was a machine involved. and we know that in road rage there is a car involved and people seem to be dehumanized by the presence of the car and they can't connect to the individual. if what is happening here. we'll need to study these cases and i suspect there will be. someone is irpt acting with the machine and removed from a innerpersonal moment here and there are other people around, and somebody else becomes unhinged. and in interacting with the machines, people do things they would not necessarily do. it could be the guy two rows back as thinks of you as not human. >> data rage. right? >> yes.
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are there other people talking about this as influencing our behavior? >> this is the way they are talking about this. i get cases from forepzic psychiatrist. they say i am his defense attorney and he did something using the computer i don't think he would have done if it was not from going to link to link and maybe about images of children and with a person who never had any proclivity to do that and no behavior in that regard. what happened and why would two be irpt acting with the machine something different happened that is negative and toxic. same thing here. we know it with cars. let's look for data rage. and we know it with facebook. why would kids bully to the extent they do on facebook? because of data rage. ndr. ably. that is an interesting theory.
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i am gretchen carlsson. coming up. big hearing on nsa rules reform happening in our hour. did all of the spying on americans stop terrorist attacks? . the findings might surprise you. and outrage. the fbi said no criminal charges in the targeting of criminal groups by theires. a pastor told parishoners to help themselves to commune. right or wrong. we'll have that on the top of the hour. you just mentioned the targeting of conservative groups. >> top irs officials say there is no evidence to warrant
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criminal charges. joining us is judge napolitano, fox senior judicial analyst. what the fbi said, they have not found evidence of enemy hunting with the irs giving extra scutunny to tea party groups. but they have big bureaucracy and inepiitude. >> and the way the law is written, the irs has given so much lee way, you almost, almost have to find bribery on the part of the irs agent to look the other way or look more carefully before you find a crime. >> 282 to 8? they found 282 conservative groups as opposed to eight liberal groups and no crime found? >> here is my observation and people need to know this. the culprit is the congress. because the congress has so written the laws that any president, democrat or
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republican, can use the irs for political purposes without committing a crime. richard nixon did it. bark bookkeeper obama has been doing to an extreme extent. and other presidents haven't done it as extremely as they have. it is congress' fault because they want when their party is in power to have the liberality with the laws. it is subjective and the law is not predictable. how can you predict the president's wrath or political supporters are going to generate more activity by the irs? >> one of the congress people. darril issa said he doesn't trust the investigation in part because it came out that the fbi only just now eight months later intrude the victims and various tea party combroups. >> i share congressman issa's concern and anger and there is nothing he can do. only thing to do is a new
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election. the president can't run for election and that is moot. and persuading the attorney general to appoint a independent counsel. we are stuck with this. >> this he's not going to do that. we are stuck with this. >> you're saying this dies here? >> yes. there will be political ramifications, some democrats may lose seats in closely contested house and senate seats. this will be an issue, what did you know about it, what did you do about it, how did you stop this in in terms of doing this, the president is free to use irs agents and he has. >> get a congress in there to change the laws so the irs is independent of the white house. that has never happened since the irs has been around 100 years. >> wow, thank you. >> tense moments with life or death decisions playing out in realtime for police in a hostage
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having the internet at home means she has to go no further than the kitchen table to do her homework. now, more than one million americans have been connected at home. it makes it so much better to do homework, when you're at home. welcome to what's next. comcastnbcuniversal. live in the newsroom in los angeles with more on how this turned out. william. >> reporter: you know, bill, you have to remind yourself, this is not fiction. yet just like a cop drama on tv, police have a timing window to take a shot. they, of course, risk hitting the hostage instead of the suspect. so as you watch this tape, ask yourself, would you the shot, pulled the trigger.
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listen closely to the gunshot, you'll see the man in the hoodie get hit. now, we topped the tape there. the suspect is swung backward by the bullet and collapses on the ground. this happened monday. the suspect had been involved in a crime a few blocks away and tried to escape at the 7-eleven. once inside he took three monlgs including the customer enpink. s.w.a.t. arrived. after hours of negotiations, the suspects refused to cooperate. using the woman named bet y as a human shield, they fired. >> i was terrified. it was stressful. >> what about police, they did a great job. >> great job. i got out alive. i guess they did. >> police identified the suspect. he remains in critical condition
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with a single gunshot to the chest. bill. >> william, thank you, playing out in realtime. william, thank you for that. >> terrifying. on a lighter note, if you want to quit your job, there's an app for that. what is your quit your job fantasy? here we go, maggie. get your best tweets in, folks, they are next.
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a carton. >> jim, winning the lottery, then announcing my retirement the next day. >> i would love to use my forklift to spell i quit with all the cars so my boss could see it upstairs. >> got to quit. welcome to "the real story." a short while ago house passing stopgap to keep government running while they continue a bipartisan deal that funds the government through october. if that bill passes, it would increase funding for the head start program to support early childhood education, allow u.s. postal service to keep saturday delivery and provide an additional $85 billion for the war in afghanistan. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel live on capitol hill with more. mike, what else is in this bill? >>
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