>> 2 1/2? is that heavy? >> 2 1/2. >> i'm in trouble. log on for our after the show show. thanks for letting us sit in for brian this morning. >> great job. thank you very much. >> bye, everybody. see you soon. bill: let's start with a fox news alert now because not one, not two, but three different hearings on the obamacare rollout getting underway at this hour. all three focusing on one critical and key issue and that is the lack of security at healthcare.gov. what will they find today? good morning, i'm bill hemmer as we get started here in "america's newsroom." martha: hello, everybody. good morning, bill. i'm martha maccallum. so the first hearing that is set to get underway any minute the lead witness will tell lawmakers that your sensitive personal information is no safer on the website today than it was back on october 1. bill: that's a problem. mike emanuel leads our coverage live on the hill. mike, good morning. what will come of these hearings?

what are you hearing? >> reporter: we expect chairman lamar smith of the science and space and technology committee will essentially set the table saying when healthcare.gov was launch ad few months ago the american people were told it was safe and secure. this committee and other committees here on capitol hill heard from experts that is not the case. when you consider that local physicians, major hospital networks, and hundreds of millions of americans are all going to be accessing this site, the fear is that that leaves many, many ways for sophisticated hackers to get into this network and from there, what they could do to major breach, well it would be an impact that we have never seen before in this country. and so, we expect him to have a very serious tone teeing off this hearing. a lost serious talk about your personal information here on capitol hill as these hearings go forward. bill: you wonder what is being done real time. the main witnesses will say what then, mike? >> reporter: one in particular, david kennedy from trusted llc,

says he that he and other experts told the government there were some 20 or so vulnerabilities when healthcare.gov was launch and they have not been addressed yet. kennedy talked about what is at risk. the easy way in for hackers, the devastating impact they could have in terms of changing data, going after people's personal information. even attacking home computers of those who go to the websites. target breach of course has gotten a lot of attention as a major retailer over the christmas season but what is troubling a lot of folks here on capitol hill, millions of americans and entire healthsects website and they're saying it is not ready for prime time, bill. bill: mike thanks. mike emanuel. hearings begin moments away here on capitol hill. thank you, mike. here's martha. martha: the problems we're talking about they don't stop at the federal level there are plenty of issues with state exchanges going on as well. here's a case in point. maryland, which claimed to be a model are to the rest of the

nation, one woman who thought she successfully signed up she ended up hitting a brick wall. here she is describing what is going on with her search for coverage. >> to me it is very personal and it is very frustrating because the system has failed me. i was told by the insurance company i selected that they have no record of me. i did go to the state navigation system and they have no record of me. martha: got to be a good feeling, right? analysts say the scenario vicki is face something likely to be multiplied nationwide in the coming months. that is one of the big questions here. we're sort of just getting our feet wet with people going through experiences, showing up at the doctors office. feels like there is a little bit of a lull. a lot is still to come to surface. bill: hang on to what mike emanuel is reporting too. this is playing out real time. if people don't trust the

website, you will have a big problem getting more people attracted to sign up. we're watching the hearing with darrell issa moments away. martha. martha: a bombshell report how deep in the hole the u.s. is to china. wait until you hear this. it was released a few minutes ago. the treasury department says the amount of u.s. debt now owned by china surging, over $12 billion in november and has now hit a record level. look at that number! the total american iou, over $1.3 trillion that we owe to china. another way to look at this, it means that we owe nearly $1,000 to every single person in china. and there's a lot of people in china. stuart varney joins me now, host of "varney & company" on the fox business network. so what does this mean, stuart? >> okay, if you borrow $1.3 trillion from china, you give china leverage, power, influence over us. we are in check because of that massive number.

if they even hint they won't lend us anymore money, our interest rates go up. this is the problem with massive debt. you lose a little of your sovereignty. secondly, martha, we have to pay interest on that debt. that means, tens of billions of dollars every year flow out of america. they go to china. they go to japan. that means all those tens of billions of dollars don't help our economy. they help economies in asia, principally china. bad deal. martha: that is problematic. and the president, you know, it is interesting to note that this number has ballooned in this presidency. it has gone consecutively up through republican presidents and democratic presidents before them. this president was very outspoken on this issue back in 2008 when he ran for president. let's take a look. >> the problem is is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our

national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents, number 43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back. $30,000 for every, man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it is unpatriotic. martha: well, there is a couple things in there, right? he's blasting former president bush for adding 5 trillion to the debt and he has added about -- >> 6.7 trillion to be precise. yes. martha: so what do you make of that comment there, stuart? >> my, how times change. it was unpatriotic then but apparently now it's okay to add $6.7 trillion to our debt, much of it lent to us by foreigners. and this is what happens when you fail to get your debt under control. you give power to those people

who lend you the money. in this case china and then japan and other for inpowers. not good. martha: interesting. i remember back during the election candidate mitt romney used to talk a lot about, you know, if i'm president, whatever expenditures we add to the budget we have to ask ourselves, is it worth owing that much more to china? just as an exercise and reality to figure it out. so it is interesting to look back. >> $1,000 owed to every chinese citizen is a great deal of money. martha: that's a lot. we'll see if that gets us anywhere. thank you, stuart. bill: we owe china more money than any country or anyone period. look at this now. the japan the second biggest owner of u.s. debt. then the caribbean banking system which we owe $291 billion. third on that list is brazil. our debt to rio, nearly 247 billion. fox news alert now. weekly jobless numbers are out.

numbers americansing seeking employment first time falling to 326,000, falling slightly after a disappointing number for december. unemployment rates since president obama took office, jobless applications appeared to stablize near prerecession levels. wall street opens on that in 22 minutes. martha: another fox news alert. this one a deadly shooting at martin's supermarket in elkhart, indiana. shoppers there were ducking for cover as a gunman stalked the aisles. we hear way too many of these story, killing two women, one a customer. another was an employee there. the gunman killed by quick-responding police who describe ad truly terrifying scenario in that store. >> a large caliber handgun, semiautomatic. we don't know which victim he went to first. as i said the victims are spread out, probably 10, 12 aisles

apart. shot one of the victims. made his way through the store. shot another victim. we don't know the sequence. we know that he did have a gun pointed at another individual which we believe was an employee at the time when police showed up and when the police engaged him. martha: police say that there is no indication so far that the gun man knew his victims. bill: elkhart, indiana, a good little town that is. more on this throughout the morning. a new report saying they did not have to die. this was preventible. the blistering new details on benghazi. missed opportunities that might have saved the lives of four americans killed there. reaction from darrell issa in three minutes on that. martha: and proof that random acts of kindness do make a difference. a mom's big thanks to the stranger in seat 16-c. what he did that has everybody talking about this story. bill: nice. also chaos at a middle school a student firing a shotgun into a

crowded school assembly. the 911 calls as frantic parents call in wanting to know if their children are okay. >> she just came in with a shotgun, two, three rounds off. >> where is the person? >> we're in the middle school in the big gym. >> couple of nieces and nephews there. >> i know. we don't have all the details yet, ma'am. >> oh, my god. can you tell me if anyone was hurt please? >> as far as i know there have been two people hurt. ♪ ho ho ho [ female announcer ] at 100 calories, not all food choices add up. some are giant. some not so giant. when managing your weight, bigger is always better. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant

martha: some new details in a horrific school shooting that left two students seriously wounded in new mexico this week. police have now released 911 calls made moments after the shots rang out on tuesday. calls flooding in from terrified teachers and students urging first-responders to rush so that scene. listen

martha: unbelievable. police say that a 12-year-old boy, 12-year-old boy, opened fire with a shotgun in his own middle school. he, and he brought it from home. it was modified as far as we know so far all the details still coming out on this. they say that there is evidence that he planned this attack in

advance. middle school reopens today with an increased police presence. >> why these military leaders testify to capitol hill they knew it was an attack almost immediately why did you continue -- >> two things, first of all, of course it was an attack. the facility was attacked. there was never any doubt about, come on, ed. i know there is desire here to -- >> that's what you said. >> this is just not factual. of course it was an attack. it was an attack that led to the deaths of four americans. >> all of this should trouble every loyal americans and politics should not be a part of it. we need the federal government to be proactive in protecting americans from terrorists and iron click that's what the national security agency is supposed to do but the nsa may be overdoing it. bill: all right, there you have it, heated exchange first by ed carney, rather ed henry and jay

carney and bill o'reilly reacting to a blistering bipartisan report from the senate blasting the state department for security lapses in benghazi. remember we lost ambassador chris stevens, sean smith, glen doherty and tyrone woods that day in 2012. darrell sighs la chairs the house other sight and reform committee. good morning to you. >> thanks, bill, for getting out the true facts the ones you don't see coming out of "the new york times." bill: we're look for a lot more and we found a bit this week alone. the senate report, it was, it lined up the state department and knocked it down. i know you have seen that report. will you bring hillary clinton back to testify on that? >> we certainly she could be appropriate as we gather additional information, some that withheld from us. i think the important thing though as early as october of 2012, our committee and fact

witnesses were testifying that in fact they knew, including the now deceased ambassador own words when he told gregory hicks, greg, we're under attack, they knew from the get-go this in fact was an attack. they knew there were terrorist elements that were linked or sympathetic with al qaeda that were part of it and they continue to try to spin this for whatever reason, first to help the president get reelected and now perhaps to help bolster this myth that hillary clinton was a good secretary of state when in fact we didn't do well and we haven't done well under her leadership. bill: just back to the question, yes or no, will she come back to testify? can you get her back? will you compel her? >> right now what we want to do, and this is important, bill, is we want to get what has been said in classified sessions that shouldn't be classified. we want to get it to the public directly. we want to have unclassified sessions with particularly the military personnel so that these

can be made public. the american people deserve to listen directly to testimony under oath by people who have direct involvement and there is a little bit been done by the select intelligence committee in the senate. as you know most of the conclusions are still extremely classified and most of it inappropriately, not giving ambassador the security he needs and not sending a rescue team. that shouldn't be classified. bill: i apologize for interruption. we found out two days ago, they knew at pentagon within 15 minutes that benghazi was under attack and it was terrorism and they suspected al qaeda. in the days that followed you had all the accusations going towards this film and that is the reason why this consulate came under attack. who in the intelligence community, who at the pentagon, refuted that claim? can you name one? >> nobody believed it at the time. they simply took it out of an incidental and said this could be a contributing factor and went with it and went with it a week later. there was in fact never anyone

who truly believed this was the prime cause or that it was just a protest. bill: now why is that? >> why is it? in my opinion this was an attempt to tamp down a situation on the eve of an election so that they wouldn't have to admit that al qaeda and terrorist groups on september 11th attacked americans and killed americans and now it is undeniable that on september 11th in a premeditated attack americans were killed. in fact from the house armed services report our assets were not at high alert. they were not ready. in other words we were caught without the assets that should have been in place on september 11th, 2012. that is big mistake by the department of defense, a big mistake by the department of state and of course the commander-in-chief disappeared after that and has no real footprint of being involved in any potential rescue. bill: he is not mentioned in the senate report. hillary clinton is mentioned

once. quickly in 30 seconds left, there were three hearings on the house side dealing with security of healthcare.gov. what should americans know about their own personal security on that website now? >> what you should know is the top two security people, both at health and human service, cms, have both testified under oath that they were not given the kind of information that would lead them to be comfortable with the security beforehand, or, that in fact the known flaws in security had been mitigated prior to the launch. it is really a question of locking out the people who said they weren't comfortable, didn't want to sign for this thing to go live, it wasn't secure in their opinion or at least they couldn't be comfortable that it was secure and that continues to be the area in which going live was certainly a mistake, even if they got lucky and didn't have a major loss of your personal information. bill: first of those three hearings begins in a couple minutes. we'll be watching it from new york. sir, thank you. darrell issa on the hill.

>> thank you, bill. bill: martha. martha: so irs official who is targeted conservatives appear now to be off the hook as the investigation into the agency seems to be going nowhere at this point. there is a growing chorus of lawmakers say it is time to turn the tables and perhaps investigate the people who have supposedly been looking into this scandal. bill: also shocking new video from this crash landing showing that a first responder was aware that a young woman was on the ground before that young woman was run over. more on this in a moment. >> coming out on the west side of the airplane. what i'm going to do and so does bill, an identity thief who stole mary's identity, took over her bank accounts, and stole her hard-earned money. unfortunately, millions of americans just like you learn all it may take is a little misplaced information to wreak havoc on your life. this is identity theft. and no one helps stop it better than lifelock.

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were aware of a victim on the ground before she was run over. the coroner testified, the coroner believes the woman was still alive at the time. here is footage from one of the emergency trucks. as a firefighter points out the body of the 16-year-old. the driver avoids it and moves forward. it is said the girl was hit by another emergency vehicle. this is video from a helmet cam showing one firefighter covering the body of the girl. this is all during the mayhem of the crash now. the girl came from china to this country to study because she wanted to learn more about our way of life. the video coming out after the girl's family filed a lawsuit against san francisco, charging the city with the wrongful death of their daughter. martha: tragic, tragic situation all right, to something a little more cheerful now. we watched this morning as the oscar nominations have been

announced, nine films including "american hustle" and "gravity" all vying for the top honor this year. julie banderas live in the studios. which film is in the lead with the most nominations? have you added them up. >> there are many and a lot of best picture nominations taking the lead for the6th academy awards, 1970s con artist comedy, "american hustle" and threetee out of this world thriller "gravity", starring sandra bullock. both nabbed 10 nominations including a nod for best picture. nine out of possible 10 films made it into the prized coveted category of best picture. going up against "american hustle" and "gravity", are 12 years a slave which earned the most nominations total as well as "captain phillips" starring tom hanks, "dallas buyers club" starring matthew mcconaughey who earned a golden globe for his role, leading role in the film. "nebraska" and "wolf of wall

street" and "philomena" top contenders. martha: any others? >> amy adams and christian bale from the critically aclaimed "american hustle." cate blanchett from the woody allen film, "blue jasmine." jude city den much from "philomena" and meryl streep from "august osage county." they will air march 2nd, with ellen degeneres hosting for the second time. everybody loves ellen. she makes it a great show. 's hope people don't drink as much as the golden globes this year. martha: let's hope they. bill: it will be a boring night. martha: i love "american hustle", extremely well-done and well-acted i think christian bale is amazing in the movie. jennifer lawrence and amy adams knocked it out of the park. i have a bunch more to see so i can't give you my final answers. bill: sounds like you have a vote actually. martha: it was a great movie. bill: i liked "wolf of wall

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job market is still tough. in pockets around the country and people need support. martha: here to respond to that california republican congressman kevin mccarthy. he is the house majority whip. congressman, good to have you here this morning. welcome. >> thanks for having me. martha: do you agree with the president there? >> i agree with the president we have long-term unemployment problem and it is because the obama economy. we've been this way for five years. we need to focus on job creation. the president didn't bring out a proposal about unemployment insurance. he didn't talk about it until it was running out. we have 150 bills passed in the house, sitting in the senate harry reid won't bring up. talking about tax reform. that is where we have to start moving creating jobs. this is the worst labor participation since 1978. this is worse than jimmy carter. that is why we have to start producing jobs. martha: a story out today says

the reality on the ground that the president may very likely be faced with a republican congress again, you know, throughout the rest of his term which i'm sure you're not going to lose any sleep over but that as he accepts that, if indeed that turns out to be case, he is going to be more and more active, more and more working with his pen and his phone. just want to play what he said about that this week. >> i've got a pen and i've got a phone. i can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions that move the ball forward. martha: doesn't necessarily need you guys to approve any of this. >> you know what? that is just the wrong way for america to move forward. the best way for people to come together, let ideas participate and have the best idea move forward. if you look inside the senate, harry reid has been running it with as "new york times," which is not conservative, says a brutish style. he only allowed four republican roll call amendments since last

july. that is not the way to move. five years of this obama economy is enough. we need to start moving this country forward. i think ideas should be able to come forward. we're willing to sit down and work with this president at anytime. he says he is willing to listen to republican ideas. we've been passing more than 150 bills, skills act, and others to put people back to work. and the senate won't even bring them up. martha: he basically says that, as far as unemployment extension of benefits, if you all don't go alongwith it, you're basically being cruel, not really understanding the pain that is out there for people who have been looking for jobs and simply can't find them. >> we're more than willing to look at unemployment but we're also wanting to look at job creation. you know, this is the same president also said when he came in that he had to pass the stimulus, which they did under democrat control, that unemployment would be at 5%. well that didn't come true either. i now think it is time to act anew with this president and actually look at an economy, when you have labor

participation worst than 1978, worse than jimmy carter, it is time to stop playing politics and start moving this economy in the right direction. martha: i want to look back at one sound bite that he said recently that might indicate, a change of tone perhaps in the way the president is addressing this jobs problem. listen to this. >> because restoring the american dream of opportunity for everyone who's willing to work for it is something that should unite the country. that shouldn't divide the country. that is what we should be aspiring to. that everybody has a shot willing to work hard and take responsibility. martha: working hard, taking responsibility. you have a shot in america, restoring the american dream. juxtapose that with this quote that became very famous during the last presidential election. >> if you have been successful, you didn't get there on your own. you didn't get there on your own. i'm always struck by people who think, wow, must be because i was so smart. there are a lot of smart people

out there. it must be because i worked harder than everybody else. martha: it is interesting to look at both of those, isn't it? >> he likes to divide this country. always wants to put politics before people. i think we should put people before politics to get this country monmoving. we have unique opportunity right here. as i said more than 150 bills, skills act, energy policy, education reform, sitting over in the senate, which they won't even bring up for a vote. the president goes out on these campaign trails, but i think one of the most telling things yesterday, when he was in north carolina, the north carolina senator who happens to be a democrat, who is up for re-election didn't have it on her schedule to be standing next to this president because i think this obama economy is actually hurting everyone. martha: she is clearly been hurt in the polls by health care in north carolina. she chose not to be part of that appearance yesterday. but i wonder, because we see some democrats, you know, peeling off, they are agreeing

more with you guys a little bit in some of these health care-difficult states, do you see room for that, negotiation between the two side, perhaps without the executive office on issues of job creation as well? >> yes. i have mean you look to the floor. last week we passed a bill regarding reforming obamacare and we had 67 democrats join with us. today we'll have a bill on the floor that brings more transparency. i believe a lot of democrats will join with us as well. if we can get the senate to start moving i think we can get the economy moving again despite what the president wants to continue to play politics. we can put people first. martha: any think, you know, people want to be put first, and they would love to see you guys all get together down there and make some of these things happen. representative kevin mccarthy, thank you so much. good to see you. >> thanks for having me. bill: we mentioned this 40 minutes ago. security on obamacare website is now topic of three different hearings underway on the hill. what happens when you put your personal information on the

website? bret baier ahead on that andfros when we get them. martha: so eight months the irs scandal that rocked washington. the fbi is now saying there will be no charges filed in this situation. republicans say that the whole investigation they believe is a scam, i mean a sham, excuse me. so we'll talk to the attorney for many of those groups that were targeted about their political beliefs. we'll tell you what he is thinking about all this now. >> after very careful consideration i've decided to follow my counsel's advice and not testify or answer any of the questions today.

martha: wildfires lightings up the sky in northern california. that's a live look at glendora, california. brush fires erupting in the angeles national forest 30 miles east of los angeles. seven begins and three helicopters responding. the red flag conditions, look at this, causing evacuations in

other parts of los angeles as well. we'll keep you posted what is going on there. bill: bad time of year there you know. santa anna winds and all that stuff. is it time to, the investigate the investigators who were supposed to look into improper targeting by the irs? that is what republicans are calling for and jay sekulow is one of them, chief counsel for american center nor law and justice. his organization representing 30 tea party groups who claim the irs targeting them for investigation. good morning to you in tennessee. >> good morning, bill. bill: are they taking it seriously? how do you categorize isn't. >> i don't think so. this is the most important fact and we haven't talked about this as much but it is reality, none of our clients were ever interviewed by the fbi. bill: not one? >> reported crime that eric holder talked about may have been committed, victims of crime, people targeted were never interviews. the interviews were never taking place. the barbara mosser man situation

broke a major donor to the obama campaign. very next day they announced no criminal investigation. why are we putting our clients through a fbi participation in these investigations if they have already closed criminal file without talking to our clients. we're in federal court. that is where it is going to be. bill: can you still argue a case that a crime was committed based on the evidence you have among your clients? >> it is very tough. a crime has to be put forward, prosecution has to be put forward by the justice department. so we are left with, which is the focus of our complaint, civil allegations of violations of free speech, violations of internal revenue code, violations of internal revenue code regulations. we're in civil court. private citizens can not bring a criminal case. bill: understood. >> that is what the justice department is supposed to be investigating. obviously they were able to close the case without talking to victims which is really unprecedented. bill: i saw word earlier today

on this story suggesting the investigation is fizzling. do you believe that to be the case? that it is fizzling and burning out now? >> i don't know that it ever started. someone says where is the investigation going? i don't think it ever got off the ground. it took eight months before we had the first contact by an fbi agent. when they did have the contact they were already closing the file. bill, i don't think this was ever a serious investigation. i think it was a sham from the beginning. eric holier's department of justice, ultimately who controls these criminal investigations closed a file, or is in process of closing a file without talking to the victims of the purported crime. i don't know when that's ever happened before in our history but i think the criminal allegations are long and i think darrell issa and some other republican members of congress are saying, we need to look into the investigation. don't forget this. lois lerner, head of entire tax-exempt division to the irs pled the fifth amendment called to testify and they say there is no criminality here?

really hard to believe. bill: jay, i think you argued these numbers before, correct me if i'm wrong, was it 292-8, conservative groups targeted versus liberal groups? was that the number. >> well i don't even -- i still can't find eight liberal groups, bill. we're representing 42. there were hundreds. i think the number was 200 -- bill: you say 292-0? >> i think that's right. i have not found a liberal group that went through the same targeting process these conservative groups gone to. there was one liberal group denied bad tax-exempt status because of bad lawyering or bad accountants because they did not a apply for right section of the internal revenue service code. never has any group received treatment like these groups have. three years later they still don't have the tax-exempt status. nothing happened to the files, period. bill: you mentioned the civil side. can you win in civil court? >> yeah i think we can.

now the irs admitted they are culpable. they have admitted they engaged in targeting. that violates the first amendment. i argued a series of cases on supreme court in that. they're raising every technical defense they can right now. we're in that phase of the cares. the government doesn't want the case heard for obvious reasons. we'll fight through that and i think we'll prevail on the merits. bill: thank you, jay from memphis, tennessee,. >> thank you, bill. bill: bill: thank you for your time. martha? martha: we're seeing a big shift how americans feel about their personal financial information. the latest poll numbers suggest that the economy could be taking one step forward and maybe two steps back. bill: a mother thanking a man helping her autistic daughter stay calm during a flight. a look what makes some people a bit kinder than others. >> it was just a good time. >> immediately engaged kate, that is what did it for me. keeping up with these two is more than a full time job

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bill: here's an amazing, maybe even eerie picture. a dense fog blanketing new york city on wednesday, nearly drowning the empire state building. the fog was so thick only the lights at the very top could be seen. brooklyn bridge was kind of cool too. martha: random act of kindness has now gone viral. the family were flying home from a vacation at disney world, how awesome is that last week, but the mom was nervous because her 3-year-old daughter kate has autism. a businessman sat down next to her and was catching up with some of his work during the flight. kate called the guy daddy and reached out to him. instead of getting annoyed bit distraction he put away his work, he pulled out his ipad. he chatted with her and

literally kept her happy the whole flight. >> kate's mom said, you know, she has autism and i didn't really know what to make of it, okay. we just kind of went on our way from there. >> he immediately engaged kate and that is what did it for me. he would engage kate. he cared about her and what kind of little person she was. he wanted just to play with her. martha: a friendly man from new jersey. dr. keith ablow, is forensic psychiatrist and member of the fox news medical a-team. welcome, keith, good to have you here today. >> thanks, martha. martha: i love the story where the mom describes, and i remember feeling this with my children who dot not have autism, you're always a little nervous when somebody sits down next to your toddler or child. she watched this whole basketball team, she was like, they would be fun to hang out with. a nice grandma lady, darn she will not sit next to her. and of course businessman, with the briefcase and documents and

thinking oh, my gosh, she will spill something over his important papers. lo and behold this guy did not appear to be what she thought would be a great seat mate turned out to be. what do you make of it all? >> what do you make of it? you don't make out of this a moment to try to understand neurochemistry. because you will never find in the chemical mention in the brain an explanation for this. this is about human empathy. it is a miracle. this is the quality that really distinguishes human beings from other species. maybe dogs have it a little bit but human beings have it in aces, in spades. why? because we can resonate with the troubles of others, not their triumphs necessarily but their pain, their concerns. this man knew something about what it is to have a child, that you need to entertain, and this case a child with certain

challenges and it didn't matter it wasn't his child. you know what? none of us are strangers to each other because we all know what it is to suffer if we're willing to take our walls down a little bit and not pretend we're invulnerable. martha: yeah. it is very try what you're saying. the mom, shannon, says, that her daughter's behavior can kind of run a big gamut. she can be hysterical. she can be affectionate. >> sure. martha: her emotions are raw. i wonder what it was, so that the little girl, kate reached out to start touching the sleeve of his jacket. she is tactile. she liked the way it felt. that was the beginning of the connection between these two people. i wonder show, though, is empathy something you born with? can you practice it, can you get better at empathy no i think you can certainly get better because if you're helped to rid yourself of those defenses where we might

think, we might be to ourselves or very brave and focus on our success and look, maybe the way i will connect with people is around our common struggles. that can be taught. are you born with it? i believe everybody is born with it but it is a fragile quality. if you encounter enough trauma in your life you could lose ability to feel for yourself and feel the ability to -- lose the ability to feel for other people. lose your empathy. i counseled violent people that lost their capacity to empathize. that is why they're free to do horrible things to other people because they don't feel the hurt they're causing. this man on a plane, feel this is mother's plane. by the way in your introduction you described another miracle. what is it about a mother where she would look at people passing by on the aisle and hope for the best person to sit next to her daughter because she cares so much what the girl's experience will be on that flight?

that's a miracle too. we don't have to go looking for serotonin and epinephrine on this one. it is from on high and it is a wonderful trait of human beings that deserves to be called miraculous. martha: i think you're right. that's why we did the story so we can bring it to people's attention and get folks to think about it. it is a nice story. we're glad we had a chance to do it with you today. thanksgiving, doctor. >> thanks, martha. martha: reaching out on the internet which can have nefarious outcomes she was able to reconnect with this man. that other connection between these two human beings reminds us what is nice about being human, right? bill: indead. thank you, keith. new proof american soldier held bit taliban is still alive. bowe bergdahl from idaho in captivity for nearly five years. what his family is learning about the new video they see of their son. martha: remarkable. plus the new report on benghazi

says that the tragedy could have been avoided. a lot of people didn't want to hear that from this report. much of the blame was sent to the state department. what does that mean for hillary clinton? we'll be right back. [ woman #1 ] why do i cook? because an empty pan is a blank canvas. [ woman #2 ] to share a moment. [ woman #3 ] to travel the world without leaving home. [ male announcer ] whatever the reason. whatever the dish. make it delicious with swanson.

martha: brand new video of an american soldier who has been held captain i by the taliban -- captive by the taliban for nearly five years, and it offers some fresh proof today that he may still be alive. what a story this has been over the years. welcome, everybody, brand new hour now of "america's newsroom," i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer, good morning. sergeant bowe bergdahl was captured in afghanistan in 2009. the proof of life video said to be showing the sergeant in worsening health, u.s. officials believe he's now being held in pakistan, and our national security correspondent, jennifer griffin, is live on this from the pentagon. he's from idaho. the reaction from bergdahl's

parents is what now, jennifer? >> reporter: well, bill, as you can imagine, this has been heartbreaking for bowe bergdahl's parents. he's their only son, this is the first time they've seen a video of him in three years. again, bowe bergdahl was captured in 2009. he is the only living prisoner of war that the u.s. military has right now. they have been looking for him since he was captured. bowe's parents issued the following statement from hair -- their home in idaho, quote: >> r eporter: that's the message from his parents from idaho. according to military officials who have seen the video, bowe does not look like he's in good health, in fact, he looks like he's in declining health since

the last time they saw a proof of life video three years ago. it also appears this video was shot after nelson mandela's death in december of last year. there is some reference to that in the video, we're told, from u.s. military officials. bill: interesting. what impact of a failure of negotiation between the security agreement with kabul and afghanistan have on its ability to bring sergeant bergdahl home, jennifer? >> reporter: well, remember, bill, the administration has set now yet another new deadline for this security agreement with the afghan government, with president hamid karzai to be negotiated by january 28th, that's later this month. it does not look like they were going to be successful in those negotiations. president karzai is digging his heels in. he does not want to sign off on that agreement before the an election in the spring. so if they don't get an agreement, a security agreement with the afghan government and all u.s. troops pull out at the end of 2014, bowe bergdahl could

be left behind, and it could make it much more difficult in the future for the u.s. military to try and find be him. he's believed to be held in pakistan right now. bill: so difficult for his family to hear that. jennifer griffin from the pentagon on that. martha: now to this on capitol hill, because there are three hearings on obamacare that are underway many our nation's capital today. the security issues associated with the web site are truly what is front and center today in this discussion. just a few minutes ago we heard that serious security flaws continue to put user data for millions of americans at risk. >> healthcare.gov is not secure today, and nothing's really changed since the november 19th testimony. in fact, from our november 19th testimony, it's even worse. martha: wow. that's a harsh reality. bret baier joins us now, anchor of "special report." good morning to you. >> morning, mar that. martha: kind of shocking, you would think over the last few months there would be some strides made in this which is a

clear vulnerability for the program. >> david kennedy head of a cybersecurity firm be, independent firm, he and seven other cybersecurity experts have been looking since the launch at the web site, and they say at least 20 vulnerabilities that they identified october 1st with healthcare.gov are still present today. and they say it's fundamentally flawed, that it's dangerous and that one of the most malicious things that can happen is that hackers can put malicious code onto the site and then attack some of the users, essentially controlling their computers through the web site. now, cms that runs the whole deal says that there hasn't been successful security attacks on healthcare.gov, and no person or group has maliciously accessed personal identifiable information from the site, but these guys are saying, listen, it can happen, and it is very dangerous. be.

martha: yeah. you know, you think back to kathleen sebelius saying in the face of others who argued, you know, you need to take the whole thing down, it's broken, and you need to end it and start from the ground up and rebuild it, and you'll have a better system in the end if you do that. she said, no, no, no, that's not what we need to do. she said experts told her that it could be fixed, and that's one of the central questions here. >> it is. and all three of these hearings are going to get to that fundamental question. and whether there should be this major shutdown to redo the thing. understand that we have now transferred, the government, the administration has transferred the job from cgi federal, the company that essentially created and launched the web site, to accenture, another $90 million contract. these experts up on the hill are detailing how this web site, they say, is very dangerous for people to put their information

on. and while they are not initiating these attacks themselves because it's illegal, they say it can happen. martha: yeah. it goes back to the issue of whether or not it was rushed into action to make that deadline and whether or not they've actually lost time in the end by not taking a little bit more time at the beginning. bret, thank you so much. we will see you tonight. >> see you, martha. bill: meanwhile, the white house putting on a publicity full court press debuting new obamacare ads featuring alonzo mourning and magic johnson, part of a $52 million campaign. spots like these will run during nba games. >> you never know when you're going to need it. it's very important. young people think they're superman, like nothing's ever going to happen to them. but trust me, one day something's going to happen, and you're going to need a quality health plan. so make sure you get obamacare. bill: both alonzo mourning and

magic johnson battle life-threatening diseases, mourning with chronic kidney be disease and magic johnson diagnosed with hiv more than 20 years ago. martha: well, the 52 million that was spent on nba ad is just a drop in the bucket. the total amount to be spent on national publicity, marketing and advertising for the program will be at least $684 million on these public service ads. this is coming to us according to the data from associated press. starting september 30th, federal health officials booked at least $12 million in air time across 13 be states to promote obamacare. and the nba is not the only sporting event that you're going to see this these health care ads, there will reportedly be an ad blitz during the winter olympics which are coming up. bill: sure are. martha: maybe the super bowl, we'll see. bill: that's a lot of money. how's that working out for you? martha: not so well so far. bill: we are waiting more president obama to deliver a

major speech on the nsa and his new proposals. the white house saying the president will talk about how he plans to rein in the agency, but privacy and civil liberty advocates have low expectations. the speech is tomorrow, the report is now with ed henry at the white house. ed, good morning to you. the president expected to announce major changes on this surveillance program. >> reporter: that's right, bill. the question is going to be how major are those changes. we're getting indications from officials that the president's going to embrace at least some of the key 46 recommendations made by his own review panel, one of them likely to be adding on sort of an independent privacy advocate to the tice saw court that decides -- fisa court that decides a lot of this to to make sure it's not just a rubber stamp. but there's another key recommendation about whether or not the government or the telephone companies will be holding, you know, handling the bulk collection of all of this telephone data, these records. the telephone companies have balked at that. they want the government to keep it. there's indications the president's going to punt it and let congress decide.

that's drawing fire from the aclu, normally backing the president. they put out this statement saying, quote: >> r eporter: that from the american civil liberties union. so the big question really is, is this going to be major reform? most of the recommendations put forth by the president's panel, or is it going to be window dressing? bill: what kind of legacy item is this for the president when you look down the road, ed? >> reporter: it's a huge one, because it's the kind of decision that's not going to just impact this administration, it's going to impact the next administration and maybe some beyond because it's that far reaching in terms of civil liberties privacy but also, obviously, our security. and so if you look at the president's evolution on this, back in 2007, 2008 when he was first running for president, he was somebody who was suggesting he was going to radically reform these programs and really beat up on president bush. take a listen. >> this administration also puts forward a false choice between

the liberties we cherish and the security we provide. i will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our constitution and our freedom. that means no more illegal wiretapping of american citizens. >> reporter: now, they note here that the president has made some changes already to the programs, but the bottom line is what's changed, what's evolved? well, he's commander in chief now. and when i pressed the president last month in a news conference about all this, he said, look, you and others will be the first to attack me, come after me if there's a terror attack and wonder why we didn't collect more data and yet to the bottom of all this. so the bottom line is this is a classic balance between privacy and security. bill: ed, thanks. much more on this throughout the day and certainly tomorrow. ed henry from the white house. martha: a senate report dropped a bombshell, they found that the deadly benghazi terror attack could have been prevented, in their opinion. >> this was an attempt to tamp

down a situation on the eve of an election so that they wouldn't have to admit that al-qaeda terrorist groups on september 11th attacked americans and killed americans. martha: this was a bipartisan report that came out yesterday. it's got a lot of people talking. could the state department have saved the lives of those four americans? and could it possibly dog hillary clinton if she decides to run? fair and balanced debate coming um. bill: also few warnings the administration is ignoring the threat from al-qaeda. listen to this democrat on that. >> we need more than kinetic force. playing whack-a-mole, which we have done pretty well and which we should continue to do in some parts of the world using drones and other activities, will eliminate individuals, but it won't defeat the threat.

bill: we've been waiting for this picture, 7:15 on the west

coast now, the sun is up, and so are the helicopters in the air, and now we're seeing east of l.a. about 20 miles the brush fires erupting in l.a. national forest. you can see how close the fire is to several different homes there. some voluntary evacuations already underway, about seven engines, three helicopters responding. these are the santa ana winds, and it's dry on the west coast. red flag conditions causing evac level a.. -- l.a. martha: a stunning new report that came out yesterday that claims that the deadly benghazi terror attack could have been prevented. this comes from a bipartisan investigation that went op for months. -- on for months. four americans were killed that night including our ambassador, chris stevens, and this report says that these individuals did not have to die. congressman darrell issa says he believes that the obama administration began covering this up for reasons of their own from the moment that it took place.

>> they knew from the get go that this, in fact, was an attack. they knew there were terrorist elements that were linked or sympathetic with al-qaeda that were part of it, and they continued to try to spin this for whatever reason; first, to help the president get reelected and now, perhaps, to help bolster this myth that hillary clinton was a good secretary of state when, in fact, we didn't do well, and we haven't done well under her leadership. martha: joined now by doug schoen, former adviser to president clinton, and monica crowley. both, of course, are fox news contributors. i'm struck when darrell issa's talking there, what would have happened if right after in the president had come out, hillary clinton had come out and said, you know, this is terrible, and this is a huge mistake on our part because we should have read the tea leaves here better, and we did not. and we mourn those who are lost, and we pledge to never let this

happen again. would this have been over? >> you know, it may not have been over, but it certainly would not have the hemorrhaging political effect that it's now having on president obama, his administration and the likely democratic nominee in 2016, hillary clinton. one of the big lessons of major political scandals is from watergate straight through to this is that when something catastrophic happens, the lesson is that you come forward, you tell the american people and the world the truth, you do what you need to do to try to rectify the problem immediately. that's how you staunch the political bleeding. in this case, i mean, no politician ever learns this lesson, and in this case you have four dead americans here. you have a report saying within 15 minutes this administration knew this was a terror attack and still for weeks they went out and perpetrated a lie -- martha: how different would our interviews with mrs. smith be, right? sean smith's mom, who we've had on several times, if someone had said to her right away, mrs. smith, we did you wrong. we left your son out there, it was a mistake. we should have had these sign,

all of the intelligence was telling us we needed to be more beefed up, and we were not, and we were wrong. >> i think we would have been better off, but i also think something else. i think that we as a country would have been better off if the president had called for unity, had not said it was a film that really didn't have any impact if it existed at all in any serious way. if there had been an effort to produce a bipartisan response to fight terror and to get to the bottom of what really happened. i think we would have been better off. right now, as monica suggests, we're still if a political firestorm that redounds to nobody's benefit and weakens america and puts us more at risk. martha: what you're putting your finger on is what the president's critics often say, and that is that everything's political. and, you know, not sort of rising above the politics and being presidential some would say and saying, look, we're going to make this right. i mean, the other opportunity for that as we're learning in this report, monica, would have been to have read the tea leaves

before the fact, to not have been concerned about how it looked and to have, i mean, wouldn't it have looked much better if they had been properly secured and those guys came to the door and they took them all out? >> right. ma mar i mean, wouldn't that have been a terrorism win? >> it's called leadership, and this is something we've heard from secretary gates with his new memory over the last week or so that everything this administration does is done through a political lens. here you have four dead americans. we know they knew within 15 minutes this was a terror attack. now we know, which we already had some proof of, that they had put in repeated, multiple requests for beefed-up security. martha: security twice, though, which was another thing we learned. >> martha, it protects the prime minister, protects hillary clinton. this is a grossly political report in that they're trying to do everything they can to insulate the two people who are at top of the political and national security food chain who should have been responsible. the buck does stop with them, and they're doing everything

they can to protect them. martha: you know, the other thing that strikes me this week is that we have watched, and who knows who the two candidates will be, there's a million variations of this before we actually get there, but, you know, you look at hillary clinton, chris christie, both have dealt with some difficulties that could be brought allock with them through -- along with them through that process, doug. compare these two situations, and do they stick to these two individuals? >> sure. well, look, hillary, i think, will be the democratic nominee should she run, and i expect her to run. this will hurt her almost certainly with independents and republicans, but that's well down the way. i think chris christie has faced an immediate, direct threat to his credibility and his likelihood of being even a candidate, it's going to be pretty tough given the investigation of the ads and, of course, the investigation of the lane closings -- martha: i think the ad investigation has been put down for the most part at this point. >> well, for now. but, look, i think there is some smoke there. i'm not sure you can get away with $2 million over the low bidder to promote the governor

in an election year. >> well, you know what? american political history is replete with comebacks, and if this is the worst they have on chris christie, if he's not tied to this in any way, can't be shown to lie about in this, i think it's better that this thing blow up now than, say, right before the iowa caucuses, for example. >> but this makes iowa tougher for him, monica. >> in the bigger scheme of things, a traffic jam in new jersey -- even if it did involve some abuse of power, which i'm not excusing -- but in the scheme of things, the irs scandal, benghazi, fast and furious, it pales in comparison to what this administration has done. martha: monica, doug, always great to talk to you. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. will: are you were the off now -- better off now than you were just a year ago? the results of a new poll and what it says about the sluggish economy. and now five years since the miracle on the hudson, the passengers back to celebrate a pilot and a crew with nerves of steel. >> the heart of it all is safety, and so it was, frankly,

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survived, i personally couldn't have celebrated any of this. [cheers and applause] martha: look at them all toasting with their champagne a great moment, and there's that incredible picture that none of us will ever forget of everybody standing on the wings of that plane as they were rescued. the captain says he is thankful to the ferry boat crews who came to the rescue as they waited in the water, they were integral, and many of these people have gone on to do lots of fun things with their lives. one of them became a pilot himself. bill: good story. and better weather five years later, huh? many of you still do not feel good about your personal financial situation. look at the numbers. 42% say they're financially worse off now than a year ago, those results from gallup reversing the lower levels found at the last two years with just more than a third of americans saying their financial situation had improved from a year ago. fox business network, fox news channel senior correspondent charlie gasparino with me now. wow, what a cheery topic this

is, huh? 42%, i'm worse off now. >> that's how they feel. listen, the numbers are getting better, but when you start scratching the surface of this improving economy, that's when you start seeing that, hey, things aren't actually that much better. this is one of the slowest economies that bounced off -- recois that bounced off a clear bottom in 2009 after the financial crisis of 2008. and you know what's kind of fascinating? not fascinating, it's an interesting media story, we heard a lot during the reagan years about income ip equality, during the george bush years, the haves and have notses going in opposite directions. well, we have that in droves here. this is more income inequality under obamanomics, president obama's been a big class warfare guy, who says he's for the working and poor and middle class. the rich have gotten richer. all you have to do is looking at the parts of the economy that are going well. if you had enough money to invest in the stock market

during the obama years, you could have bought it at 6, it's up to, what, 15, 16? bill: yeah. but that's the part of the economy -- >> that's ooh -- that's the rich. the rich are making that money. the poor, the working class, the middle class are getting squeezed a lot, and they're getting squeezed by a lot of things, including high tacks. and i don't think you can have an economy which is based on human amounts of regulation and, basically, produce jobs for working class people. i mean, if you regular hate the -- regulate the oil industry, right? energy, as they're doing, if you regular lit bank -- regulate banks, those industries will cut back, and that's what they're doing. bill: you're arguing regulations and taxes are holding us back. particularly regulations. i mean, you're a guy who believes, i believe -- >> yes. bill: -- and you would argue that if you cut back on both of them, this economy goes to a new level. >> yes. bill: and that 42% number drops. >> yeah. i mean, look at energy. there's tons of regulation on

it. we have a shale gas boom. we are squeezing the coal industry. coal companies are going out of business because of regulation. that is hurting middle class and working class jobs. listen, i'm a union guy. my dad was an iron worker, okay? i believe in unions. i like 'em. but i want the union people to go to work. this president promised shovel-ready jobs during the stimulus package. money was not used for -- as a matter of fact, he laughs about this. shovel-ready jobs did not get much of that stimulus package. slim da got a lot of this stuff. bill: this poll also found a clear majority, 55%, believe that they will be better a year from now. i wonder if that number was at 55% a year ago? >> yeah. american people are generally optimistic. i will say this, i think the media plays a role here. the media has given this president a pass on this economy. obamanomics, if you rook at it in a rational way, has not worked well. yet you don't read that on the front page of "the new york times." bill: true story. and the republicans are hammering this right now.

>> they need someone who can actually articulate that. >> i'll. bill: charlie, thank you. charlie gasparino. martha: to iraq now where explosions have killed at least 50 people. the attacks reportedly linked to al-qaeda in iraq. it all begs the question, is al-qaeda really on the run? we'll get the latest and have the reaction from representative peter king. and the technology that's transforming cops into robocops. casey steegal has details on the latest crime-fighting tools. casey? >> reporter: yeah, martha. move over, dash cams, there's a new technology being rolled out across the country small enough to fit on a police officer's sunglasses. the shades streamed to a mobile device. the future of high-tech policing coming up in a bit.

>> all right. fox news alert. lawmakers lau are zeroing in on the claims that al qaeda is on the run. the administration is ignoring this and putting the country in danger. >> the threat of terrorism is

receding they are saying; is that end of the conflict is here and we can withdraw from much of the world. that narrative is false and does inda endanger our homeland. >> what did you learn we need to know based on senator liberman or someone else? >> they were totally on target saying despite what the president says and the media, al qaeda is not on the run. it has been hurt, but in many ways they are more dangerous now than they were on september 2011. they were pointing to iraq and

now al qaeda has taken over much of western iraq, and syria which is coming close having a strong fluen fluence. we are talking about puling out of afghanistan and that could be disastro disastrous. too many people in the country are ignoring it. >> you ticked off a lot of examples. and jack keen said this about the threat: >> in libya and syria they just want us to help them. they don't want our troops. and in iraq, where we did help them, we walked away and look at the mess we have as a result. >> and we are seeing the mess now.

jane harmon said we are going after them when they pop up. is that a smart and winning strategy? >> no, it isn't win. it might make us feel good on a particular day, but we need an all out effort. the government wants us to provide training in syria. the radicals are becoming to dominant force, but there are elements we can work with. if we don't find a way to stop the al qaeda movement, in many ways we can say last year and this year are probably the best year's al qaeda has had as far

as picking up land. they could attack the united states or our allies. >> liberman is blaming both sides. do you see it like that? >> i have to primarily blame the administrati administration. the president does the right thing but then he is going to apologi apologize. he is saying al qaeda is on the run, but in many ways they are stronger. we have people in our party who say the u.s. is an emperial

nation. senator paul says we should build bridges in america not in afghanistan. but forgetting afghanistan, like we pulled out in the late '80s and '90s and we saw what happened. >> peter king, thank you. a hollywood movie mogul says he plans to cast meryl streep in a movie that makes the nra quote wish they were not alive. >> the wife of an nfl quarterback returning a rental car with a surprise inside. >> forgetting isn't a crime.

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>> president bush in today's throwback thursday takes us back to 1991 and the persian gulf war. 23 years ago operation desert storm was announced. and the u.s. general norman formed a fight of several counties. 40 days after the operation, seize fire started and live news was broadcasted for the first time from the front line. >> storming norman. we look back. how about this? there is new talk after a hollywood film producer and a hugely successful one and top obama donor reveals he plans to

target the nra in a new movie that is aimed to destroy the gun industry. he said i am going to make a movie and we will take this head on and they will wish they were not alive after i am done with them. former president of the women's media center and mike slater is here who is a talk radio host. interesting. these comments are interesting. some i say are a little stranger as we go through. what do you make of the guy who made kill bill carrying the torch for anti-nra? >> hollywood producers are strange people. the nra lobbiest use people who

want to get away with selling guns to criminals >> mike, what is your response some >> martha, you mention kill bill and he has a new movie coming out sin city. harvey and his friends have built their careers on making violent movies. they have contributed to this de-sensitizing to violence whether it is gang violence or knockout violence. instead of going after the nra who is all about gun safety he is be better not glorifying violence. >> after newtown, the horrible tragedy that brought about so much of this discussion, everyone talked about the big three elements that needed to be addressed. the mental health issue, the gun issue, and the hollywood issue,

right? the president said we need to get at this and talk about the movies and video games because most of the young people who commit the crimes have an obsession with video games, gun and a mental instability. so doesn't harvey need to address what mike is talking about if he can be taken seriously on this? >> i think he is on the right paths of addressing nra lobbiest who took the massacre and raised money off responsible gunowners. the same one who agree with hunters and the american people and american law enforcement that we should have common sense gun laws like a simple background check on every gun sale.

>> that is what not what he is talking about. destroying the nra. they are the enemy here. >> they are! >> and let me remind you and the viewers at home, the one thing that stopped adam lanza from continuing to rampage in the school was when he saw a gun and police officer. we have school shootings weekly and what ends them all or in most cases is when there is a gun that scares the person into stopping what they are doing. what do you say to that >> i think any responsible gun owners you don't need an ar-15 to protect your home. i have to thank the guy at range

702 package. i like shooting guns. but the nra using responsible gun owners to protect gun makers from stopping common sense law -- they do need to be knocked off. >> henry david said there are thousands hacking at the branch of evil for every one that strikes the root. we need to strike the root of gun violence. you mentioned whether that is mental illness or breakdown of family or religious value and we need to respect human life again. it means strengthening to nra if anything. >> this is a howard stern meeting. he thinks guns are necessarily

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>> a rental car customer is talking about something shocking

left behind in a car by an nfl wife. ryan tanahill rented a car and brought it back two hours later along with a surprise: an ar-15 semi-automat semi-automat semi-automatic rifle >> i am glad a kid or criminal didn't find it. >> police saying it certainty a crime to forget the weapon. no word on if they got their gun back. that is not a good idea. the next person could have a little kid. >> maybe an empty coffee cup. >> even that is not polite. >> a police department in texas is using these cameras to spring

pictures on tablets. >> reporter: they have about 145 of them. the cameras is as a size of a tube of lipstick. they can be put on the officer's uniform or car and it streams the picture to a mobile device and you can see behind the scene looks. my photographer guy is shooting the shot. more than 20 law enforcement agencies are using these. made by the same company that makes the tasers. cameras rolling after an officer enters a home to an nfl store holding a knife in the bedroom. a woman suspected of drunk driving speeds off in the middle

of a stop. offic officers jump out of the way but they did nab her. they can be used as evidence in court but they hold action's more accountable when their actions and conduct are being filmed from their person. >> this technology is going to revolutionize policing and change every organization but most importantly it is going to make every organization more tra tra tra tra tra transparent. >> interesting story. >> security flaws on the obamacare website are getting

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