p.m. eastern. is is -- bill o'reilly's next tonight from washington. the o'reilly factor is on tonight. >> it is not enough for leaders to say trust us, we won't abuse the data we collect. >> caving in to critics of the usa, president obama tried to rein in the agency, but will the changes protect your privacy? or is it all for show. the coverage of the benghazi at the same time, the coverage of the irs pale in significance. >> the main stream media correspondents to pound chris christie over bridge gate, while giving president obama a pass on bengha benghazi. howard kirk will be here with

analysis. >> it's best to get them and get it over with. once you have it, you don't get it. why don't you just catch it and get it over with. >> and the "duck dynasty" is still on the air. >> get it now, get it later. get it now. caution, you're about to enter the all gray zone, the factor begins as soon as i finish this sentence. hi, i'm your merry munchkin in for bill o'reilly. president obama has announced changes to the nsa and i hope they're all for show. call me a fan of better safe than sorry, but as long as there's evidence that the cia could have prevented 911.

if you disagree with me, it doesn't mean i'm against the constitution. when our own intelligence cants snowden dead, that tells you that snowden hurt us bad. the nsa should not be a political play thing, it works for no party, it works for you and me. which is why i ignore the screechiest voices in the room. they want the nsa to go away, many are to use a historical term, useful idiots, pawns that ignorantly join up with the enemy. the leftists behind the nsa attacks are against all anti-terror measures since 911, which is why every single -- 20th century smear of anti-come in addition as worse than come

in addition. back then the reds had useful idiots too. the ronald reagan ignored such children. let's do the same here. >> now for the top story tonight, the president's nsa overhaul. today mr. obama proposed the following, that the nsa stop storing phone data from hundreds of millions of americans, instead he wants to figure out another way to store the data, maybe outside the government. he also wants intelligence agencies to get a court's permission before accessing records, he says he wants to end the spying on international leaders. >> the reforms i'm proposing today should give the american people greeter confidence that their rights are being protected. one thing i'm certain of, this debate will make us stronger. >> it always does. joining us now from washington, clifford may, and from l.a., fox business anchor, the lovely kennedy, host of the great new

show, "the independents." so we can no longer spy on international figures? i thought that's what spies do. what is james bond going to do, sell health insurance now? >> should we a apply everything we need to foreign governments and foreign agents to innocent u.s. citizens? that's the question. it's been a false notion balance put forward that you have to decide, is it national security or civil liberties. we always need to protect civil liberties, especially of american citizens a and the nsa repeatedly crosses that line. >> they say they found no violations, though, so i believe, kennedy, you may have just stated an opinion not a fact. which angers me because i love you. >> who's to say they fouchbtd no violations? >> they just did a big study on it. >> they could have been worse i guess i would say, but i don't think any of them are very helpful. everything that's been done by the nsa has been overseen by

congress and by the judiciary and the executive branch also has been known. and there are no violations of anybody's constitutional rights proven or even alleged in a serious manner. you mentioned 9/11 which we did not stop, after that people said we need to connect the dots. greg, you don't connect the dolts unless you first collect the dots. and metal data is electrons, the nsa is now listening to people's conversations, not reading your e-mails, it's looking for patterns in communications, only if those patterns are established, do they go to the fisa court. the u.s. constitution is a contract between u.s. citizens and their government, it does not apply to foreigners on foreign soil. let's get over that idea. >> kennedy, that makes -- >> there are a number of problems with that, by the way, when you talk about dots, how

many dots should we be keeping track of? what kind of dots should we be collecting and as people talk about dots as they are an innocuous package, they have no understanding of what metal data is, you can be tracked, you absolutely can be tracked. every device, every phone call is sending out information that is being consumed and stored by the government for the last five years. and by the way, the president, his entire election process when it came to national security is limiting executive power and having transparency, that is hardly what i call a transparent government. >> we should have more secret agents blankets the united states? >> no one's asking for more. >> we should all be chuck

barretts, that would be amazing. >> we're not asking for more secret agents, we're asking to let the nsa do its job and try to protect us using the tools they have. there's been no abuses so far. >> i'm glad you protect them and i'm glad you claim there have been no abuses, why are the vast majority of -- leaving the obama administration in droves? it's not necessarily because of health care and the economy. it's because of the snowden thing. >> i'm afraid people think that the nsa is doing things that it's not doing. >> that was a great debate. i almost said nothing throughout because you guys are awesome. kennedy -- >> you're sexy, greg. >> you're awesome, very smart debate. i don't know who to believe now. next on the rundown, a top official at the dea stayed legalizing pot is reckless ander

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bud. the chief of operations for the drug enforcement administration said this. >> going down the path to legalization in this country is reckless and irresponsible. i am talking about the long-term impact of legalization in the united states. if it scares us, the treatment people are afraid, education people are afraid. law enforcement is worried what is going to happen? in every part of the world where this experiment has been tried, it has failed, time and time again. >> i don't think he's being sincere. joining me me now to analyze this situation, radio talk show host mike gallagher. i go to mike gavin first sincely because he's an expert on vice. what is your take on the legalization question. is pot that dangerous that you must keep it illegal?

>> you're thinking, okay, what's the worst-case scenario? will there be 1.3 million people arrested in one year? will it cost us a trillion dollars? we're in the worst-case scenario, it couldn't possibly get worse. the anti-legalization crowd says pot is bad, it should be illegal. it is bad, it does kill your ambitions. but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be legalized. the system has it works now is not working, it would be cheaper, there would be less people incarcerated and we would be a much more efficient country. who said it hasn't worked anywhere in the world? in spain and portugal, it has been a huge success. >> gavin admits, pot is bad in many ways, but banning it makes it worse? >> here comes the balding, fat, middle aged conservative who's

with a couple of hip guys, i'm going to throw in a wet blanket who says i agree with the guy who says we shouldn't legalize marijuana. most of the arguments for and against are anecdotal. people like me think it's dreadful for a culture. we have had personal experiences with loved ones, people close to me who have been in the throes of addiction, it's not fun, it's horrific. here's the question for me, is our country bettered when we legalize yet another mind alt altering substance? i can't believe that grown adults can't all agree that it's okay to make illegal one more mind altering substance. there's a great argument against it being a great way drug. i happen to believe with all of my heart it is a gateway drug because i don't know of one hardened drug addict, heroin,

crack cocaine, whatever, that didn't start on marijuana. we all know the people who are getting high are all looking for a bigger high. >> that's not science or statistics to claim that you know people. and the gateway drug research isn't that strong. people use personal anecdotes to justify their side. and that's the problem for both sides, i think, not just for your side. gavin, i believe that both sides lie. the people who want to ban it claim that it's the end of the world if you legalize it. but the legalizers say it's no big deal, they're both wrong, correct? >> we do a huge disservice when we lie about pot and say it's great for pain. it makes you feel like someone's murdering you with a tiny chain saw, it's the only thing that helps you sleep. they call it cannabis and they pretend it has all these

medicinal purposes and that's a lie. >> people who go through pain with cancer, who cannot tolerate certain drugs, it's good. >> but who on my side is lying? i'm not saying it's the end of the world. i'm just asking you guys, do you think society is bettered to legalize yet one more mind al r altering substance? >> i don't think it can get worse, is what i'm saying? >> can i ask you ever smoked pot? >> i have gotten drunk before, i have smoked pot, that's as bad as it gets because i'm a pretty boring guy. and i think you both can agree, you're right about the -- when they lie about the medicinal benefits of marijuana? >> i'm suspicious of the authorities. i'm suspicious of the state. i don't impart all this wisdom to them, i don't trust them to monitor my life. look at the dmv, go renew your license if you think these people are so qualified. we can handle our own vices, our

own cigarettes, our own whisky, our own pot. >> you ought to say the same thing about crack or cocaine or meth or heroin. that should be legal as well. i respect that argument because i do understand it from a libertarian point of view, i just go back to, let's not a advocate for things that we know aren't helping or better our society. there's nothing good about legal aizing another mind altering sub tangs. >> but there's nothing good about banning it. we are actually, these pot arrests are killing career prospects for so many kids who are basically nonviolent who got high. and gavin, we have talked about this before, pot does kill ambition for a lot of people in their 20s, but pot heads don't kill people. and i think that going to prison is not the answer for this. you say legalization won't help, but putting people in jail makes it worse. >> what percentage of criminals are in jail from drug related

causes, from fighting someone who's on their turf to killing someone who's in their gang hierarchy. >> i don't trust the state with morality. >> there you go. >> there you go. okay. >> mike, thank you, gavin, thank you. the film making fat cats, he's made some of the most violent films. the ratings are in and they may surprise you, those reports after these messages. if you're heading to the fridge, fetch me a beer. [ male announcer ] you'll only find advil, the #1 selling pain reliever, in one cold medicine. advil congestion relief. it delivers a one-two punch at pain and sinus pressure with the power of advil and a nasal decongestant

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any personal story segment tonight, hollywood hypocrisy, many celebrities won't shut up about their distan for the nra. the latest to join the anti-gun choir is harry winestein. >> i don't think we need guns in this country, i hate it and i think the nra is a disaster area. i'm going to make a movie with meryl streep and we're going to take this issue head on. and they're going to wish they with respect alive when i'm done with them. >> kill bill, pulp fiction, his stuff makes dirty harry look like bambi. joining me now to react, our blond panel. the only five co-hosts i tower over. first dana, i go to you, he hates guns, but he uses them

like punctuation marks. >> in his pr move, what he says to howard stern is they're going to wish they with respect alive. >> yeah, i love that. >> maybe he's just going to use a knife in stead of a gun. >> and that's exciting too. or snakes. why do you think snakes should only be available during times like the holocaust. >> if a holocaust situation arises, guns magically appear and the people who are being up pressed, i think you can walk out your door and you look in your mailbox and there's a gun in there and you can defend yourself. >> apparently in his mind that's how it works. you mentioned the violence in his movies and he's promising not to make anymore movies that glamorize guns. >> the nra is not going away, and hollywood is not going away. so they could continue to be at

war with one another, which actually helps both of them from their own pr standpoint. if he was serious about doing something, why doesn't harvey winestein think about partnering with the nra and work together. >> you really are crazy. the point dana's making, andy, is true, is that because of the extremist rhetoric that's used by hollywood and even the president of the united states about guns, that actually drives animosity to a higher pitch when you cannot negotiate or have a decent conversation. >> i don't think so. i think a lot of nra members out there are going, oh, meryl streep, you're going to be in a movie about guns. >> nobody ever bought another hamburger. >> the thing that attracts me is that harvey winestein, rich jerks like him don't need a gun because there are other people

that handle his security. he's always first class, he's always in a car, if he gets shot, he's so fat, it's going to be a flesh wound. he's going to be fine, he doesn't have anything to worry about. it's the regular shopkeeper, the people that can't afford a bodyguard. >> or the dad in his home that wants to protect his family. it's interesting though in this weird hypocrisy, it's those people that like to watch the movies that harvey winestein produces. but the people that already hate the nra are going to be the only ones that are going to see the meryl streep movie anyway. it will just be status quo. >> it does kind of make a mockery of an american that they don't know, an america that's too stupid to handle a weapon. they believed that john travolta can handle a weapon in pulp fiction, but nobody else can.

>> this is going to air on another network tonight, he doesn't like the fact that a child can walk into a store and buy an ak-47. but the law does prohibit selling long guns to minors. so he doesn't know what he's talking about. you should probably know something about a subject before you start pontificating. >> his life is never in danger, unless he's panting over a hooker. >> he's never in danger of losing his millions, so he doesn't have to check his facts, he can say anything he wants and there will be no negative impacts on him. he's not going to lose his job over saying something that is ludicrous like somebody else at this table might. >> shortly. end, how do you feel about the oscar nominations? >> pretty good. "12 years a slave" will probably

make best picture. i will say like the aes of america, i'm looking forward to the interpretive dance movie. >> dana, you go to a movie every night, down in the village, you go crazy, any predictions, any surprises? >> if we could put this segment in a time vault and i'll let you know next year. i don't actually see movies until they're available in my home theater. but i do think that technology and the business model will see a change in the next few years where the production companies are going to have to figure out a way to work with some sort of delivery device so that people can watch movies in their homes because going to the movie theater is not fun anymore. >> i hate, i hate, everything about it, i hate the coming attractions which take forever. >> do you hate the twizlers?

>> i hate it when they're out of the cherry iceee. >> the best movie of the year in the documentary category, the best movie is "the act of killing" which is a documentary about these massacres in indonesia. >> that's what's wrong with america, people aren't seeing enough documentaries. all right, dana, andy, good to see you, i guess. plenty more ahead as the factor moves on this evening. lou dobbs on why the nsa is losing fast. also on deck, tom brokaw, you remember him, says the media is making too much of the chris christie bridge traffic scandal, surprise. we're going to take a look at that. and we hope you stay tuned for those reports. this is interesting.

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they make clocks. joining us to explain all this, it's fox business anchor lou dobbs. i didn't even know switzerland had an economy. >> they do and they're doing very well with it. >> did they abandon their socialist principles? >> they have the second prettiest country on the planet. the index that the journal and the heritage foundation came up with, it seems to have a few problems, for example, astonia is -- >> it looks so beautiful, everyone's made of stone and there's little cobblestones. and i'm looking for the bar. >> there's not many bars, here's the other part of the problem. >> that's the problem. >> if you take hong kong, that was number one, switzerland,

astonia, bahrain, singapore, put them all together, their total population doesn't add up to our chronically unemployed. i'm not sure the comparison is one that's intellectually defensible. >> i want to open a gay bar in bahrain called it's bahraining men. i have a theory here, what if this decline is part of the prescription for a progressive society. presidentama wanted the economy to shrink. >> this theory that what's happening is exactly what president obama designed and wanted must be reassuring to a lot of folks, it must be telling them that he truly is in control and he desperately wanted to consign 20 million people to

long-term unemployment or simply get the hell out of the labor force. i'm thinking maybe he didn't intend that. >> okay. >> in fact there's some cause and effect physics as work here. uninspired leadership, a lack of management skills and a vision. i think probably are more to be credited for the outcome. >> you know, is it possible that america has reached that point as a civilization to understand that decline isn't so bad? you know, competition is hard? you know, it's almost like gaining weight. or getting married, that's the united states, it's like you know what? maybe we don't want to be number one anymore. >> that's satisfying too. and again, one that we may have not consider ed and may be now. the idea that this list, though, i think we get hung up on lists,

but we really need to pay attention to what it's really saying. because there's a loser here too. if we can just advance the graphic to 137. i love this thing. >> north korea? >> china. and we know that country cannot get its economic act together. it's going to take them another decade to overtake america. it means that it took them just about 40 years to do what we did in 250 years. >> that is scary. so i'm not sure what you do with the index. >> as a selfish person, i wonder how this will affect my life? >> well, it's -- >> will it? >> i'm guessing that it's going to give you lots of material for years to come. >> excellent. all right, lou, you're always great. >> you are too, thank you. >> just a quick reminder that you can go see bill during one of the refresher shows in

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. thanks for staying with us. in the unresolved problems segment tonight, bridge gate, benghazi and bias. the main stream media is doing back flips over chris crist kwli's traffic scandal. so imagine any surprise when i heard nbc's tom brokaw say this. >> i do think across the country however, they're looking at long-term unemployment and they're looking at the uncertainty of obama care, they're saying you got to move on guys. you can only close those lanes for so long if you're on the national media. i wonder if this was nevada if it would have gotten so much attention. >> but the main stream media is giving president obama a pass on

benghazi. senator john mccain, surprise. >> i mention the "new york times," you call them a surrogate for the obama administration. are you accusing the paper of defending them on benghazi? >> of course. and i, not only that, i'm accusing them of being the mouthpiece for the hillary clinton for president campaign. no one could look at that article with objectivity and say that it's anything but a profound al apology and distortion on behalf of the administration and the secretary of state. >> joining me howard kurts. howard, what is your take on the media's rabbit embrace of the christie scandal, as opposed to scandals like benghazi. are you surprised by this? >> that tom brokaw sound bite,

does he ever watch msnbc? it's turned into the trenton bureau. every single democrat has been -- i think the bridge gate story is a legitimate story, it's a juicy story, it's got all these characters. but the main stream media pounded this into the pavement even when there was no new developments. but this benghazi, the investigations have been going on for 16 months, it's complicated, a lot of people think it's been politicized. it lacks the story line of is chris christie a bully or is he just a loud mouth? >> oh, my gosh, a story is politicized. they politicize everything they do in life. the thing that drives me a little crazy is that when people, including my friends, they mock coverage of benghazi as over the top and blinker on

our network. >> the benghazi story, the fatal attack, the death of the four americans there, very serious story that we still haven't gotten to the bottom of. but the problem is, particularly the television story, that it's murky, there are these conflicting accounts. i don't agree with senator mccain and saying the "new york times" was doing this for hillary clinton, her name wasn't even mentioned in that 7,000-word piece. but the findings by the intelligence committee saying this could have been prevented and that is a bipartisan report which is important. pretty much undermined the "new york times" report in my view. >> but my theory about the hillary thing is that because hillary was spurned by the democratic party and by the media for the prom king, president obama, that this in a way is their whitman sampler, this is their box of candy by like giving her a pass on this

scandal. is that a valid theory or am i nuts? >> i would never venture to say you're clinically insane, but -- you know, it is hard, the bucks stops at the top, so whatever went wrong in benghazi, and the compound was left dangerously undefended, it was president obama's responsibility and it is secretary of state hillary clinton's responsibility. but hillary clinton by the way, on the cover of "time" magazine this week, because the media are so much more interested in 2016, here's the tie between hillary and christie, will the bridge thing kill christie, will the benghazi thing undermine hillary clinton. or the abuse of power that christie's aides at least showed in deliberately creating that traffic nightmare and laughing about it. >> in a weird way, the way you explain it, it is almost like

choosing sides, if you're on one side, you believe benghazi -- that's how it's going to play out up until the elections if these are presumably our candidates, which i don't think we can say that yet. these will be the footballs that will be used. >> i have no idea who the candidates are going to be. i don't think benghazi has been ignored. there certainly has been a lot of newspaper coverage and on television. but a lot of people see the media through a partisan lens, so if you're a democrat, you love the story of chris christie getting roughed up and you make the opposite conclusion on something that hurts obama. >> it's more than just a balance thing. the media cannot bear to be mean to obama. they're like parents in the stand at little league, they just want him to do well, they want him to get ahead. >> they got pretty tough on obama care once it became a fiasco. >> they had to because what could you do? on deck, "duck dynasty" is

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in the back of the book segment tonight, fridays with geraldo, we have three hot topics, so let's get right to it. let's begin with the international olympic committee, telling women's hockey player that he cannot display a controversial quote on her

helmet during the sochi games. so geraldo, is this mild outrage, medium outrage, massive outrage or supermassive outrage when you think about this story? >> zero outrage. i don't like people promoting with whatever the cause is at the olympics of all places. it's not a nascar races, you don't put go daddy on your helmet or your uniform, you do that on national venues. >> every other nation has their own sayings and soon everything will be obscured and it will be we the people and then china will be we the other people. that's a great motto. we the other people. >> they're not that creative, but they're very good at copying and tweaking. >> i'm adopting that. but what if? that's a good point, let's say

they came across an athlete that had an islamic symbol, they would let it happen, wouldn't they? they would be scared to death. >> they may be, but they still would stand on the letter of the law, the ioc has a rule that says you can't have any printed words. they had a guy last time. it wasn't bogey miller, it could have been another hockey guy, another goalie who what had miller time. they said no it wasn't because of the connection with the beer, but there's no writing, you can't do it. >> you're a law guy. >> in the case of the olympics and my business is the last place you have real amateurs, they're not even real amateurs, but they're not allowed toy adv. >> i'm glad i got out of the olympics. i love the fact that you didn't

on use the word. oh, my goodness. now he's making fun of my height. "duck dynasty" which i see you're now a member of with your beard. >> he was my inspiration. >> i dig the show, so it's great. >> they went down from, i guess, their premier went to 8.5 million, for season five, which was below last year, which was i think about 11 million. does that mean anything? >> well, it's still a huge number. >> i would take that. >> anybody would take that, i think it's number two in the nation. they made a mistake mixing politics with reality tv. when hi said when i ponder the equal rights between genders, i

mean, come on, he's a duck hunter. >> he's not a grad student at berkeley. >> that would be a good reality show too. >> no one would watch it. "duck dynasty" show is like mirror images and they both defend them the say way. >> but isn't it sad that it becomes an ideological, if the guy is right winger, let girls happen, let "duck dynasty" happen. north texas man -- >> i was going to say something about -- i won't. i'm controversial. >> your self centering.

a north texas man is trying to clear his name after he was arrested for violating a city ordinance. they arrested him but they said it wasn't because he was violating that law, but because you have to show these signs on private land. do you buy that? >> i think it's bogus, i think they were stretching to find something. i know this community north of dallas, it's an aftfluent community. they really were ticked off at this guy, they tried to get him, but they couldn't get him because of the constitution and freedom of speech. so they got him on -- the taxpayers are going to waste money prosecuting a guy who- >> it's just like flashing your lights. >> as long as you're just

flashing your lights, geraldo. coming up, a very awkward moment on the "today" show with kate gosselin. it's coming up. there they are. ♪ [ chicken caws ] [ male announcer ] when your favorite food starts a fight, fight back fast with tums. eartburn relief that neutralizes acid on contact and goes to work in seconds. ♪ tum, tum tum tum tums!

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and of those o believed they had the power to do more. dell is honored to be part of some of the world'great stories. that began much the same w ours did. in a little dorm room -- 2713. ♪ this magic moment ♪ indicate in her -- originally featured on the cover of "people" magazine, as part of her campaign to show the world that her kids are doing well. but all did not go well when kate and the twins appeared on the today show. >> we have not seen you or gotening to talk to you in a long, long time. and you want to let the world know that you're doing okay. what did you want to say about

how you and the family are doing? >> maddie, your words. >> it's hard a question. >> oh, what about you, cara? >> so this is their chance to talk, this is the most wordless i have heard them all morning. i don't want to speak for them, but maddie, go ahead. sort of the things that you said in the magazine, that years later, they're good, they're fine. go for it, mad. >> i said it. >> they're like bookends of hate. that ride home's going to be fun, no ice cream for anybody. you can buy one copy, you believe get the next copy for exactly the same price. up next, megan kelly, with a blockbuster hour of television ahead, including her special

guest, anthony weiner, thanks for watching us tonight. and remember, the spin stops her because we're looking out for you. i'm megan kelly live in new york city, and tonight. kill the bill! >> new reports the democrats have taken some quiet steps to silence conservative groups in the upcoming midterms. >> just tell me how is it fair? >> ready? >> i am. >> he's back. anthony weiner and i go one-on-one for the first time in almost three years. and wait until you see what he says. and then -- >> a couple of times, he definitely appeared to be choking. >> the media go to bat for a convicted killer after he was put to death. but who is