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>> all right. rea they said read slowly. >> set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." we will see you here back on monday. have a great" weekend. next.al report" is up hello. i'm gregg jarrett. glad you're with us. well tom to a brand-new hour inside america's news headquarters. >> i'm arthel neville. topping the news, a terrorist attack in the heart of afghanistan. now three american civilians are dead. we have new details and who is claiming responsibility. and president obama is calling 2014 a year of action. he says he is willing to bypass congress to get things done. will this put him on a collision course with capitol hill? our political panel debates. >> and california, dry as a tippedder box. the state suffering an historic
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drought and now on high alert for new wildfires. we're live in the heat of it. first a stunning new report finding obamacare isn't doing what it was meant for. the affordable care act was meant to expand health insurance to uninsured americans, but according to the "wall street journal," a majority of the more than 2 million americans who signed up for oakey's pet funeral home & crematory were already covered -- obamacare were covered by work plans, raising new questions about the effectiveness of the law. going to doug mckelway live in washington with the latest. >> reporter: hi. these numbers are based on a combination of surveys from insurers, consultants and brokers and they find that of the 2.2 million people who sought to enroll in the exchanges through december 28, at least two-thirds were already covered through private health insurance plans or employer plans. and only 11% of consumers who have purchased new coverage
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under obamacare had been uninsured previously. john goodman of the national center for policy analyst says this should not come as any surprise. >> under obamacare, even if they do everything they hope they will do, the majority of uninsured will still be uninsured. there will be 30 million people without health insurance. that's part of the reform. >> bigger problem remains the lack of young healthy people who are signing up for the exchanges. they are needed to help pay for the older, less healthy people and those with preexisting conditions who can no longer be turned away by insurers. their acceptance into the exchanges means costs necessarily go up for insurers. surveys find 24% of enrollees were between the ages of 18 and 34. the centers for medicare and medicaid services believes that the numbers are good and getting better, though. in a statement it told the "wall street journal" and we're quoting here, we are in the middle of a sustained six-month enrollment period and we have seen a strong interest in the product overall, across the
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range of demographics so far. and people do still have until the end of march to sign up for the plans. so there is plenty of time left. back to you. >> we will be watching. thanks so much, doug. >> sure thing. a drought emergency declared in southern california as that state sees some of its driest conditions in nearly a century. firefighters are battling this raging wildfire in glendora, just east of los angeles. it's believed that an illegal camp fire started that fire. the dry conditions in the state are raising serious risks for even more blazes. now more from our l.a. news room from will. >> reporter: hi. i want to put this in perspective for you. california evidently started recording weather about 100 years ago. this is the worst drought on record. so as you can tell, this is an area that is really desperate for water. there has not been much rape or much snow -- rain or snow and for the farmers and their crops that sell across the country,
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that is bad news. so yesterday california's governor declared a drought emergency. governor brown says this is the worst drought ever in california's history. so he's cutting red tape to help transfer water from people selling water to people who are buying it. he's also asking everyone in california to voluntarily conserve water usage by 20%. >> there is lots of water districts, lots of farmers, lots of consumers, lots of lawns and each one, wherever they are, knows best how to reduce their water use. >> reporter: again, that is voluntarily. but the governor says the possibility of making a mandatory water ban could come at some point down the road. the same time, firefighters seem to be getting a hand on the colby fire in l.a. county. it's 30% contained. burned almost a half dozen homes and 4,000 residents to evacuate. they ended up getting to go back home yesterday. there is still 300 people under a mandatory evacuation.
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but it's just those dry conditions and the winds adding to the problems for the firefighters. with all the conditions that there are right now, it's looking like later in 2014, the wildfire season could be pretty bad. gregg. >> will, thanks very much. from wildfires to west virginia now, the company blamed for that chemical spill which left 300,000 people without safe drinking water, now filing for bankruptcy. the move by freedom industries will shield it at least for now, from dozens of lawsuits. most of them from businesses that were forced to shut down for days. according to the bankruptcy document, the company owes money to at least 200 creditors. overseas, the taliban is claiming responsibility for that deadly attack at a popular restaurant in afghanistan's capitol nearly two dozen people were killed, including at least three americans. the taliban says it was in
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retaliation for an afghan military operation earlier this week. conner powell is in our middle east bureau with the details. >> reporter: attacks on soft targets like restaurants are rare in afghanistan. instead, the taliban typically hits hard targets, things like military convoys and government buildings. friday night as people were sitting down to dinner, a suicide bomber attacked the front door. while several taliban gunmen slipped in via the back, shooting people at point-blank. >> there was no army in that restaurant. there was no police in that restaurant. so this shows that they are enemy of innocent and civilians and defenseless people. >> reporter: at least two americans were among the 21 that were killed. both were employees of the american university of afghanistan. also among the dead are several afghan workers and four u.n. employees. and the lebanese owner of the restaurant who reportedly had a gun and tried to battle the
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attackers. with u.s. troops winding down their mission in afghanistan, the fear is that the taliban will launch more of these attacks on these so-called soft targets with the resulting chaos destabilizing the country and removing the fragile gains. >> conner, thanks. syria's main opposition group says they will finally sit at the negotiation table. the peace talks scheduled next week in switzerland as the international community tries to find a way to end the country's yearlong bloody civil war. the syrian national coalition has been under pressure from its western and arab sponsors to attend. the syrian government has said it will go. just a day after he announced a plan to change the u.s. surveillance programs, president obama has a rare interview with german tv saying that he would not let intelligence work damage relations between the two countries. the nsa has been accused of tapping the cell phone of german
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chance lohr angela merkel. in the meantime, here in the united states, there is mixed reaction to the president's nsa proposals. elizabeth prann is in washington with the latest. >> reporter: president obama clearly said he's not ending the surveillance programs. he did propose a number of tweaks. the nsa will need court permission before accessing american's stored phone records and monitor allied leaders and congress is tasked with creating a panel to monitor the ongoings of the foreign intelligence surveillance court. the president saying these practices are keeping americans safe. >> what i did not do is stop these programs wholesale not only because i felt they made us more secure, but also because nothing in that initial review and nothing that i have learned since indicated that our intelligence community has sought to violate the law or as
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cavalier about the civil liberties of their fellow citizens. >> reporter: the stance is a far cry from the then senator obama back in 2008 who credit citizenned surveillance programs as violation of civil liberties. his shift is illicitting reactions. saying technologies are reaching too far into american lives. others say the president needs to look at things differently now that he's president and not a senator. >> i think you get wiser when you put your hand on that bible and suddenly the lives of every single american, you're responsible for that. >> i heard the president say if you like your privacy, you can keep it. meanwhile, he's going to keep collecting all of your data. >> the patriot act specifically section 215 pertaining to phone meta data collection expires in 2015, which means the next battle is brewing. back to you. >> thanks very much. fast-moving snow storms pounding the midwest and the northeast and an arctic air mass is expected to hit parts of the
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country soon. oh, my word. janis dean has got the weather from the weather wall with all the details. i'm freezing in here. make it stop. >> i know. i think we have like 60 days left until spring. so a lot of weather to get through and yes, we have another arctic blast that is on its way this week. there are your temperatures tomorrow, kind of average. maybe a little below average. as we head into monday, look at the northern plains and the great lakes and upper midwest, towards the northeast as it comes through on tuesday. those are actual air temperatures with the wind chill, it's going to feel even colder than that. so not as cold as the arctic blast that we saw couple weeks ago with the whole polar vortex thing. it's not going to be as cold as that, but certainly with wind chills it will be very dangerously cold across these regions. this is a comparison from a couple of weeks ago where we had daytime highs of minus 31 in international falls. so 21 is the daytime high.
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minus 21 rather, on tuesday. i need my glasses in here. minus 5 for green bay. a couple weeks ago we were minus 20. yes, it will be cold, but you felt colder. there is chicago as we head into monday and tuesday. daytime highs, 9. overnight lows around 4. wednesday, you're going to feel an overnight low of minus 2. average high is 31. another arctic blast, but reminder, it's winter and it does get cold. so high pressure remains anchored across the west. it will give conditions again very dry for southern california, very warm and blustery winds. we're going to cover that throughout the workweek. and then we're still looking at that trough across the great lakes and the northeast. a couple clipper systems moving through, reinforcing air mass of that arctic cold again as we head into early part of next week. i love being in studio with you. i feel warmer already. >> we're doing a magic camera trick. >> wait a second! >> here you go. >> there you are.
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>> look at that. >> come on over here. >> that was a run by. >> she was like the streaker. >> what do they call this? photo bombing? >> yes. awesome work. >> video bombing and it works. >> does remind me of streaking back in the '70s. remember that? >> no. won't be doing that. >> remember? did you streak? >> no. >> why would you even ask me that? you did. i bet she did. a 15 year manhunt comes to an end finally with this fugitive now behind bars. how he evaded the law for so very long. and sorting through the bargain bin for health insurance. we're going to tell but a side effect of obamacare that reduces coverage to the bare bones. president obama is vowing this will be a year of action. with or without the input of congress. a smart move, doomed to backfire? our political panel is here to weigh in on that.
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time for a we can chick of the headlines. philadelphia police say a second suspect turned himself in following a shooting not guilty a high school gym yesterday that wounded two students. one of them is still in the
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hospital in stable condition. investigators say the shooting may have been accidental. an oregon man suspected of faking his death in a fishing accident 15 years ago in order to avoid child sex abuse charges now under arrest. 55-year-old daniel clement taken into custody in montana where he has been living under a different name and identity. first lady of france is ending more than a week long stay at the hospital. she was admitted after a report surfaced over an alleged affair between her husband -- sort of husband -- and an actress. you want to weigh in on that? >> i don't. thanks for asking, though. president obama and congress may be heading on a collision course. in his weekly address, the president laying out an ambitious agenda for the year and suggesting that he's willing to bypass congress to get things done.
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listen. >> i want to work with congress this year on proven ways to create jobs, like building infrastructure and fixing our broken immigration system. where congress isn't acting, i'll act on my own to put opportunity within reach for anyone who is willing to work for it. >> and take a look now, this is a brand-new gallup poll shows americans want the president and congress to make the economy their top priority this year. bringing in justin safety, former spokesman for former florida governor jeb bush, and publisher of "safety review.com, richard fowler, democratic vat gist and radio talk show host. welcome to both of you. >> thanks. >> okay. >> thanks for having me. >> richard, i'm going to start with you on this one. so if the president is saying that he is feeling like he's working with a do nothing congress, are you surprised or not that he is saying that he's going to take executive action? >> i'm not surprised at all here. i think what the president is
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saying and the american people are saying is they want the congress that works for the american people and that's what we need. sadly, we haven't seen any of that from the republican side. >> justin, do you see a danger in that approach? >> well, i do. look, the president is a president of the united states. he's a leader and he's the one who on monday will have been in office for five years and to hear him talking about trying to do things to help jobs, where trillions of dollars more in debt than we were five years ago when he took office. and his so-called stimulus -- >> i'm sorry. one second 'cause i don't know if you heard my question. i'm just asking do you see a danger in the president saying that listen, guys, if you're not going to do it, i'm gog do -- i'm the chief executive and use my own power to get things done. what is your take on that? >> it depends what he wants to do. if he's usurping the power of congress, we do have separation of powers in this country. i think that he should respect the will of the american people. the people elected members of
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the house of representatives who are controlled by the republicans. they have been passing job creation bills. if the president wants to get things done, he should call on democrats to call up some of those bills that are waiting in the senate that have been sent over by the republican-controlled house. i do think there is a danger. >> richard, you say what? >> there is a couple problems here. first of all, this president sent tons of bills that are usually bipartisan, those endorsed by the chamber of commerce, infrastructure bank bill to put $50 billion with investments from wall vote and so on to get our economy going again and john boehner just can't get it through his congress. immigration reform. another bill that would create jobs, will decrease our deficit. republicans refuse to vote on it. i can go on and on about the laundry list of bills that couldn't get passed, that could create jobs. what do you want this president to do if the american people are saying we want jobs? the president saying, we want jobs and this congress just
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sitting on its hands. >> the people are sitting on their hands or the democrats in the senate? they have not taken action on a number of bills that the republicans in the house have sent over. i agree on immigration that there definitely needs to be a bipartisan effort on that. >> do you think that will get done on immigration? >> i hope so. again, i support the effort in terms of what the senate democrats and republicans did and i do hope that the house republicans take action on that bill. i also hope there should be some presidential leadership on ha as well. >> richard, the president says that he wants to improve college access for low income students. this week he announced a new technology hub, a public-private manufacturing institute which the president believes will spur economic activity. i'm sure he used his own power to put in new gun restrictions. you say with actions like that, that congress needs to get on
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board. >> exactly. congress needs to get on board. at the end of the day, this is what it boils down to, when you look at it, the president won this election. i just don't understand why republicans can't get it through their heads that the president won this election and he wants to govern and unfortunately, the house republicans refuse to allow him to govern. they will shut down the government for 17 days, forcing him not to be able to govern. they'll do everything in their power to make sure he doesn't govern, even though usually five years ago, ten years ago, the bills that we're talk being are bipartisan ideas. a transportation bill used to be an easy pass in this city. not anymore. >> okay. so justin, representative marlin, indiana republican, he said that the democrats in congress are focused on bigger government and less opportunity and if the president truly wants to make this year a year of action, that he should encourage senate democrats to vote on
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gop-backed jobs bills that have already cleared the house. do you agree with that? >> yes. i do agree with that and at the same time, i think that he should encourage senate democrats to take up some of those bills that have been sent over by the republican-controlled house and i also think that again, he should be very careful about how he uses executive power. one of the biggest detriments to job creation is the heavy hand of washington, d.c. on americans and the job creators across the country. so i think he needs to be very careful in terms of what he does because the answers aren't in washington, d.c the answers are outside washington and this economy was doing a lot better if there weren't so many regulations, laws, executive orders and things like that coming out of washington. >> justin, let's talk about that. let's break that down. >> let's break it down. >> good bills come out of washington, we create jobs. transportation bill, the last highway bill that passed, for every billion dollars we spent, we created 34,000 jobs. all across this country. we rebuilt schools, rebuilt
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highways, bridges, high speed rail, all stuff that we can get done in this country if we choose to work together. governors, whether they're democrat or republican governors saying come on, washington. give us the funds so we can truly be the laboratories for democracy and for growing this economy. what's happening here in washington is that the republican governors are -- republican members of congress are listening to their gubernatorial colleagues who are saying let's create jobs. >> justin, i'll give you the last word here. >> last word is bigger government, more government spending is an easy solution. but it doesn't address the real issues of what we're going to do about the federal deficit, which also, that amount of debt also hurts economic growth in our country and that needs to be factored in as well. >> okay. justin, richard, richard, by the way, your voice, you sound like my good friend, malcolm jamal warner, theo from "the cosby show." >> people think i'm him, too.
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like i look like him. i don't think so. >> there you go. justin, you're all good, too. i'm not trying to show favoritism. just saying. >> that's fine. thank you. >> bye-bye. richie if "happy days." >> well, he's very talented. richie was cute. a loophole in obamacare lowering the quality of some coverage. coming up, we're going to tell you how so-called bare bone plans are still being offered and it's all legal. and finding a great job can be tough these days. but some baby boomers are looking past the unemployment lines and changing their careers late into their work lives. we're going to tell you what's behind all of that male announcer ] alka-seltze plus presents thcold truth.
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it is the bottom of the hour. time for the top of the news. the taliban bombing a restaurants in the afghan capitol of kabul. at least 21 people are dead, including three americans. the white house is condemning the attack and calling on the taliban to put down their arms and begin peace talks. egypt says its new military-backed constitution passed with just over 98% of the vote. supporters of former president mohammed morsi calling the election a sham and planning to continue more protests. about 100 passengers on the asiana plane that crashed last july are suing boeing. an attorney says the aircraft maker did know or should have known of problems with its jet. three passengers were killed.
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more than 180 hurt. no word from boeing. obamacare was supposed to get rid of the skimpy so-called bare bones insurance coverage. but a loophole in the health care law is allowing many companies to keep those cut rate plans as long as they offer another plan that complies with obamacare. joining me to talk a bit more about it, scott, founder of help save my dollars.com. good to see you. a lot of consumers can't afford these plans. is that true? >> it's true. under obamacare, employers have to provide at least one plan that offers extensive health care coverage that doesn't cap premiums beyond 9.5% and while that may be better coverage, doesn't people people can afford it. now what these employers are doing is offering a these plans, but they're also offering a these cheaper bare bones plans through this loophole through the law and what they're doing is the employers know that
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employees will flock toward these cheaper plans because they're cheaper and more affordable and that's what's happening here. >> and they have limited benefits? >> they have very limbed benefits. it caps payouts at $2,000 per year. you have a limited number of doctor visits, a limited number of prescriptions. and at one point, 4 million people were under these plans and the health care law said to eliminate all of these. so it's a real departure from what we were sold in 2010 when the law was passed. >> if the employees opt for the bare bones plans r they subject to penalties? >> that's the thing. when you add in the fee, which is 1% of your income with a minimum of $95, if you add that in to the bare bones health care plan, you're still significantly less than what it would cost to get to those traditional obamacare plans. so the fee is not much of a disincentive for people to shy away from these bare bones plans. >> people probably come to you and ask for advice about how to handle this situation. what do you tell them?
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>> look, you're going to see your premiums increase, it's a matter of altering your budget to fit this into it because look, there is no magic here. either you have to make more or spend less. if you see your premiums going up by $500 a month, which is what a lot of people are seeing, or getting prepared for higher deductibles, that's part of your budget and you need to look line by line and say where can i fit this in? >> the overall impact on okay example is interesting because as we were talking about, small businesses will start sending out their termination notices shortly and large businesses, when their exemption expires at the ends of the year will also start doing the same thing. i was reading recently that up to 80 million americans may end up losing their coverage. >> it's true. it's unclear how this whole thing will impact the economy right now. over the next year, who knows? we could see like you mentioned, tens of millions of people additionally losing their health
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care and what this bare bones health care plan situation could add to the worries of the death spiral of obamacare because if you don't have enough money coming into the system to subsidize some of the older americans that consume our health care, this thing could completely collapse. on the flip side, you have the young people not signing up for this system. you have only 25% between ages of 18 and 24 under this system. so that could also contribute to the demise of obamacare. >> create so-called death spiral. if the risk pool is so young -- or actually the risk pool is so old that the young people can't subsidize the older people who are more costly. >> right. because under this plan, consumers are no longer judged on their health conditions in terms of figuring out what they're going to pay for their premiums. it's now a matter of getting young people into the system to sort of spread the wealth around to other people and to down the
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entire equation. if we don't see some of these stats change, it will be a tough year for the system. >> thanks very much. >> thanks. thank you. a new trend for the baby boomer generation seems to be starting over. many folks in their late 40s, 50s and 60s creating their own businesses and doing other more charitable work. brian yennis is live with the story. hi. >> hi. that 55-plus age group is actually the fastest growing population in the u.s. and now 9 million baby boomers, ages 44 to 70 are currently in the middle of their so-called encore stage. foregoing retirement and choosing instead to start an entirely new career, one that gives them more personal fulfillment, a sense of purpose, and a cause greater than themselves. becoming educators, missionaries and social workers. >> after a while, they're resisted, they're restless and ready for a new chapter and it's one that might not last as long as their mid life career, but
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can be a significant -- can weigh as much. >> reporter: 60-year-old david clipper was a wall street investment banker for 24 years before the 9-11 attacks motivated him to pursue a passion, chaplaincy. today he is a rabinic pastor and chaplain in connecticut. over the last seven years, he's been comforting and visiting patients, all while training others to become chaplains themselves. >> by listening and being accepting and reflecting exactly the same skill set i used in negotiation, i now use it for a very different purpose, which is to help the patient feel known and understood. >> reporter: he admits there are times he does miss the adrenaline and excitement of his investment career, but today he has no urge to retire, saying he feels more alive as a chaplain. >> it's satisfying in a different way. you speak of being able to give
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back. i think that's a lot of what motivates those of us who do this kind of work in a second year. >> 55 isn't what it used to be. people are expected to continue to live longer, which is why some believe encore careers will forever continue to change the way people live the second half of their lives. arthel? >> okay. thanks a lot. see, there is a second act. >> absolutely. i firmly believe that there is a second act. it's never too late. you have a whole new chapter. >> really? >> yes. >> what's yours going to be? >> i probably will be a clothing designer. yeah. i don't know. i'll leave it there for now. >> wow. nobody would ever guess. >> i'm multi talented. can president obama's nsa reform plan strike a balance between national security and personal privacy? susan estridge is with us for that discussion coming up next.
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effective immediately, we will only pursue phone calls that are two steps removed from the number associated with the terrorist organization instead of the current three. and i have directed to the attorney general to work with the foreign intelligence surveillance court so that during this transition period, the database can be queried own
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after a judicial finding or a true emergency. >> that was a small sampling of his plans to change the nsa surveillance practices. his proposal getting somewhat mixed reviews. how can we best protect our country and your privacy? joining us, susan assiege, political science at usc, fox news contributor. great to talk to you as always. so two steps instead of three. three steps instead of two. the fisa court, which is already secret, so nobody actually knows what it is they're listening to or thinking about and deciding on. if both sides are upset, what does that tell you? >> you know, gregg, you and i have talked about this. usually when both sides are upset, you say to yourself, well, it's probably a good sign that he's headed in the right direction. maybe somewhere in the middle. but the hard part on this one, particularly on the two steps
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instead of three, i mean, unless you have access to the top secret documents, how are you and i to figure out if going two steps or three steps instead of two steps, if that's going to make a real difference, if he's going to make us less safe or less secure? we sort of sit here in the dark trying to figure out how to do a balance that even those who have a lot of information are struggling to do. >> yeah. and the thing is, we can never actually truly know how effective the surveillance program is because we don't really -- we don't know of all of the horrible things that have been prevented, right? >> exactly. we sit here and literally thank god, we have not had a repeat of 9-11. i think most of us would say certainly i would say as a parent, my top priority here,
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absolutely, is the safety and security of americans here and around the world. so if you say to me, how much privacy are you willing to give up for security, i got to know, did this program actually prevent 9-11s or terrorist acts? we're told by some people that it did. at the same time, we've got all kinds of private companies who collect data and know where i look at an ad and see it on my computer and my phone and my tablet and if that's okay and i'm not complaining, certainly i care more about protecting us against terror. my great concern here is we've got a lot of people sounding off, but most of them are in the same position you and i are, which is how do we know for sure and do, for better or worse, have to trust. >> i don't know about you, but i have never had an expectation of
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privacy with regard to e-mails. i assume that because the third party is involved, as the supreme court has said, there is no right to privacy. has the president failed to sort of make that argument to say, hey, listen, this is valuable. it's working. we have saved lives and you don't have an expectation of privacy? >> well, you know i'm like you, gregg. maybe it's 'cause we lead boring lives. my e-mails, with my clients, they're privileged. but certainly i don't have any communications out there that are anything i'm ashamed of or desperately trying to hide. and i understand that in this modern world, there are a lot of people, if it's only the government and some of the private companies, i'd be happy who are looking over our
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shoulder. so i think the frustrating thing right now with the president's policy is it's hard to tell. on the one hand he's not making drastic changes and we've talked before. what are the numbers from the fisa court? like 99% of all requests get granted. i don't think that's a bar, plus we've got the emergency exceptions. so if they need it, they're going to get it. and i'm not one to complain. i just think the frustration is we don't know really does he believe the system is working? in which case, as you say, he should stand up there and say, it's working and i'm going to put security first and i'm concerned with privacy, but safety is first. or is it overreaching, in which case you say, okay, it won't make any difference. it won't make us less secure. if we go from three to two. and i guess i'm just -- i like to say i really have an opinion,
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i say right, wrong, up, down. on this one i think if you're being honest, you have to say i don't know. i mean, i really don't know. i want us to be secure. >> nobody actually knows. there is one or with people that actually know. but that's not us. >> correct. and it's not us and it's not most of the people sounding off either, as if they have the answer. too far, not too far. i mean, do they know more than us? and are they putting -- i think we all at this point in our history first and foremost is to protect the lives of americans. i can't say that enough. >> all right. susan estridge, always great talking to you. don't forget to read susan's syndicated column in newspapers across the country every wednesday and friday. susan, thanks so much. always good to talk to you. >> somehow, i don't believe that susan leads a boring life. >> i don't think she does either. i fell out of my chair over that one. >> she is fascinating.
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>> my life is boring. >> yeah. but we love you anyway. >> thank you. so this is not to you, but to you guys. is your home looking a little tired these days? it might be time to freshen up the walls. consumer expert is going to join us next to test out some tough paints. stick around for that one [ male announcer ] this is the age of knowing what you're made of.
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winter weather is forcing many folks to stay indoors these days. >> so now that you are done dealing with decking the halls and all of that good stuff, it may be time to spruce up your walls. >> and consumer reports to test the paint. it is deputy content editor of home and appliances for consumer report. >> before we get to the paint you brought, how duput the paints to the test? >> we did several things. we see how well the paint hides the old paint and smooth the finish is. and once we get it appellanted we'll so how well it holds up to
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scrubbing and stainses. there are going to be strains? >> absolutely if you are a mom, you want to be able to wipe off color and crayon. >> and you want to make sure the gloss doesn't change. >> so you brought two cans here. which is it. >> this is a posh paint from england and cost 105 a can. >> seriously? >> and is it worth it. >> we didn't think so. it didn't do well at hiding. it actually took two coats of this paint to high as well as this one. behr. premium plus ultrathat is only $34 a can. >> very good. >> one of the things about the paint, it is known for the colors. >> this expensive one. >> could you go to home depo,
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that makes behr paints and get that color. we sent our secret shopper out to home depos with a sample and they came back with these. and we measured them with our color immert and found less than one percent difference between the behr appellant color and the 105 paint. nbasically through of these are behr participates and one of them is the expensive farrow and. >> did you figure it out. >> seriously. are you trying to surprise me. >> no peaking. >> i like this one. >> you are like most of the people we actually checked as well. and pretty much no one could see the actual difference. >> this is the actual sample of the farrow and ball. >> is that right? >> and no matter what kind of paint you get. this is something you recommend
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and do. you want to start out on line and a lot of the paint companies have different tools to match the paints and they are a nice place to go for inspiration and then buy samples and paint them on the wall so you can see what it is like, to. >> in different lighting, too. how is it look nothing the day and night. >> and then decide if you want a satin finish or semigloss or flat. >> flat is nice if your walls v has a lot of imperfection. because it is not stain resistance and it is best for a not high traffic room. >> these are both satin or egg shell. same name and that is the most versatile of all of the paint. >> on your website consumer
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reports.orgyou can learn how to paint. >> i didn't know, i am imparting information. just trying to work. we'll leave now. >> she's leaving now. that's it, i am gregg. so you later. in a timely fashion and within budget. angie's list members can tell you which provider is the best in town. you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare. now that we're expecting, i like the fact i can go onto angie's list and look for pediatricians. the service providers that i've found on angie's list actually have blown me away. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.
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