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>> see you next sunday. >> that's going to do it -- >> "sunday house call" on the media, constructing, destructing it. on the buzz meter this sunday, a war of words breaks out between chris christie's office and msnbc over the scandal that's enveloped the government. a new mayor has accused cri edd christie's folks. christie's office calling msnbc a partisan network that's gleefully attacking him. is that true? he's also getting pounded by the rest of the press over the bridge scandal. >> chris christie -- >> for the second time in more
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than a week, chris christie apologized to his con stitch wents. >> do for christie faces a ticking clock, each second takes him closer to the moment when he testifies under oath. >> is the coverage of christie approaching overkill? and what about hillary on the cover of time on the media treating her far better? plus michelle obama turns 50 and the pundits get out the party hats and start celebrating. have they got on a little carried away? i'm howard kurtz and this is media buzz. it started with that george washington bridge scandal, of course, but now almost everything about chris christie and his administration is under journalistic investigation.
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rachel maddow leading with the story every single day. >> today the story of new jersey governor chris christie and the apparently politically motivated shutdown of lanes on to the george washington bridge took a turn into jersey city. the reason this photo is particularly awkward for new jersey governor chris christie, is because the guy he's interrupting in this photo, the guy in the dark shirt and the red tie is david loudstein. say you are in new jersey and for some reason you want to go to new york. >> but new allegations by hoboken mayor dawn zimmer have breathed new life into the story. joining us now, lauren ashburn and the founder and editor of america blog.com.
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laura ashburn, what's your take on christie's office calling -- don't we all know that msnbc is a partisan network? there's no news there, we do have to take seriously what mayor zimmer said, she wrote in her journal about this and there are other allegations of retribution. >> mayor zimmer of hoboken is on the record on camera and she's got diary entries over christie's lieutenant government no -- praising christie publicly and in various tweet messages. >> i'm not sure that she took an oath of office that we should take her seriously. >> but it's nolts like she's just woman after the street, that's my point. >> in some ways, the physics here, by observing something you change it. when you have an absolutely
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ridiculous, you asked if this was overkill, we passed overkill. it's hard to find organic matter left in this thing. the overhype of this story has been to such an extent that it in effect encouragings lots of people to come out of the wood work, but the sudden shock and horror that the idea that partisan politics goes on in new jersey is bizarre so me. >> the bottom line is, it's not fair for the governor to hold sandy funds hostage from the city of hoboken because he wants me to give back to one private developer. >> it's not just this, i mean msnbc's lawrence o'donnell produced an attack ad that he placed that's showing how other republicans could beat up on him, so where do you stand on the msnbc question and the overkill charge both by mr. goldberg here?
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>> sure, as lauren said, msnbc's evening hosts are partisan and they openfully admit it. i would also say that previous to the scandal, the media was almost too friendly about christie. it was oh, my god, chris christie, the guy that runs across the aisle, the guy that loves president obama before the election, the guy who's going to be the republican nominee. he rose so high, i think now he's fallen so low, that's part of the media's overinterest, they thought he was a god before. >> we also have the jersey city mayor saying there were a whole lot of meetings that were cancelled when did not endorse the christie election. i wonder whether or not the media are distinguishing now with this -- between plain old hardball politics and improper pay back. >> i agree with jonah, jonah
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said yes, this is politics in new jersey. but he crossed the line. we're talking about serial abuses of government power. there is no bigger story in news. >> i don't -- look, you go to google news and you type in chris christie and watergate, you'll get dozens of results, which is beyond idiotic, to compare a partial lane closure on the george washington bridge to watergate is ridiculous. the state of illinois -- >> we can all agree -- >> the state of illinois has seen close to half of its governors since 1960 go to jail, that none of them have gotten this kind of coverage. >> but they're not running for president. >> but you said earlier that the evening hosts of msnbc are partisan, i'm kind of at a loss to find a daytime one who isn't either. you know who is rn't running fo
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president is president barack obama and i have seen nothing like the compassion and intensity in temperatures of wrong doing investigations from any network like msnbc other than fox. >> we can get into a whole obama discussion, but the media keeps talking about was this obama's worst year ever? the year he wants to write off? >> let's get back to christie. i think what is interesting here, not putting aside some of the possible criminality, but because he's running for president, just saying that people have this tempment in new jersey doesn't mean that this temperament -- does this guy have the temperament to be president, is he too nasty? and now year finding out does -- i think the media has recognized that that's why it's a story. >> i agree with you that he was overtyped and this is the fall that comes from being overhyped. at the same time, i think one of the lessons all republicans
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should be taking from this the race of 2016 has begun. they're going to go after and feed on republicans the way they don't against democrats. >> hillary clinton, come on. >> what about hillary clinton? >> ms. stiletto in "time" magazine. >> of course, that's my point. >> i like to look at individual stories. i was critical of a cnn report which everybody picked up which said that christie is now under a second federal investigation for possibly abusing hurricane sandy funds because he and his family appeared in hurricane sandy ads. so i think it's important to make a dstingation here, those seem to be legitimate stories, that one seems to me to be hype. >> remember the national stories, that's my point, the idea that somehow the entire national press corps thinks christie is --
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>> he is the chairman of the republican governor's association. and has been seen as the front-runner. i'm not saying that coverage hasn't been accepted. there has been accepted coverage on certain networks, but i am saying that this is a national figure who deserves that kind of scrutiny. >> okay, where is anybody said, we had a report that came out this week about benghazi, which was incredibly damming to the state department. where has the drum beat on hillary clinton's lawn saying when you are going to comment. i think they have all been in trenton, searching through chris christie's garbage. >> we'll get to hillary and benghazi in the next segment. when chris christie won that big election, he was all over television and he was on the cover of magazines. then when he went to special
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re-election, he became in that moment a national figure. i have felt that some news organizations have been keeping this story alive on a day when nothing happens. but to just say hey it's just a state story seems -- should we be obsessed with 2016 now? probably not, but we are. >> i'm not saying it has no her relate at the national level. i'm saying that the level of scrutiny and hysteria that has been aimed at this story has been so wildly disproportionate. >> it's carried live on all these networks. that's nuts. >> but fox only carried an hour. >> only an hour, but an hour is a lot. >> i'm saying an hour is a lot, and two hours could be seen as excessive. this is "house of cards" playing out. >> the guy is big news. >> jersey politics is fun to cover. the one thing that can't be
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denied here. on our last week's coverage of the chris christie coverage. one of our panelists made some news and it got picked up everywhere including the daily show. >> in this feminized -- in their private conduct, kind of old-fashioned tough guys rung some risks. >> family niced? >> atmosphere. >> feminized atmosphere of new jersey? feminized? the state whose chief exports are ax body spray and lit farts? that atmosphere? >> john stewart had a field day. and then brent stewart explained what he meant on the o'reilly factor. >> it is a part of our contemporary life, that if you have that tough guy attitude,
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you take on certain interests, teachers union, especially in chris christie's case, you run the risk of being called a bully. >> however, the media loved this guy. voters loved this guy. while he was coloring inside the lines while being a bully. as soon as he colored outside the lines and started having actions that people didn't like, then all of a sudden, it became okay to bash him. >> so you don't think it's the culture, you think it's the change in the way christie is received because before when he was a tough guy in your face, get off the boardwalk, get off the beach. >> we loved him. but if you're too much of a bully, then people aren't going to like you. >> i think there's a lot of truth in what britt said, if you get past the word famiemininizes
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the wrong word. one other variable, i don't think it's the only variable, is that chris christie was the guy who helped obama get elected and people loved that story. >> loved that story because he was seen as the guy of putting -- >> i think that's what a lot of the media told themselves about what they loved about him. but now that he's a republican looking at 2016, it changes. >> i think the feminine argument is ridiculous. we have all become too feminine. it is bizarre, we all agree on that. >> we don't all agree, but go ahead. >> it's not feminine, it's called gentlemanly and good manners. christie has a record that has been somewhat shocking to people. i have not just followed politics, i have worked in the u.s. senate for five years. you generally do not get in women's faces and point your finger and yell at them if
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you're an elected official. that's not feminized. >> send me a tweet, i'll read some of them later on. hillary on the cover of time magazine and is accused of keeping a political hit list. and the uproar of a former "new york times" editor taking on a cancer patient. [ female announcer hands were made for playing.
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hillary clinton made the cover of time this week, another one of those can anyone stop her
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pieces? my problem with that piece is that no one on the hit list got hit according to the article. so is it news that a politician's staff has been keeping track of who's been friendly or unfriendly? >> not whatsoever. i think it is -- first of all, this is a woman who used to keep sidney blooming thal in her employ who are professional hit list keepers. the fact that hillary clinton keeps a hit list is as unshocking as partisan politics in new jersey. >> calling it a hit list suggests that there's retaliation against those who cross them. everyone knows that the clintons run a political machine. but not keeping such lists would be political malpractice when you're trying to figure out who your supporters are.
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i guess it's interesting that she codified it into something a little more written or whatever. >> you would be greaded from 1 o 7 on how bad you were? >> we didn't keep a list, but we certainly knew who were big campaign supporters. that's politics. >> you kept a list in your head. this "time" magazine cover, let me hold it up here, where you can zero in on it. we have got a graphic, "can anyone stop hillary?" what do you think of the stiletto there? >> come on, we have to move beyond gender stereotypes. there are a lot of aggressive women in politics and in business. sometimes they're seen as, well, i won't say the word -- >> does it begin with a b? >> as very harsh, i can't understand why nancy beggibbs
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allowed this to happen. i think it has to do with money and time subscriptions and getting people to click on the story. >> what about witwo years out there is a big story on hillary clinton. 2016, rather than focusing on the problems of 2014, the media are, you know, with christie and hillary, you know, starting the race now. >> it doesn't matter, these are public figures, we are going to start this early, political reporters are bored, they want to do something that is going to pop. and this cliched image of domineering woman, is ridiculous. >> i know you're going to bring this up, so there are a couple of paragraphs about benghazi, but mostly this is about is she or is she not going to run? >> my problem isn't that it's offensive to women, i just find it an incredibly boring and
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cliched cover. i was a big fan of the attack of the 50-foot woman. my point was simply that when i brought up benghazi before, is that in terms of intensity and passion, what's interesting about all this, we don't have to go over benghazi again. this shows how barack obama has entered his lame duck peertd already. the media is bored with him for good reasons and bad. when is the last time anyone listened to barack obama give a speech like they did chris christie, i think the reasons they're interested in hillary -- >> quite a speech on nsa reform got a fair amount of media attention. but basically the media are tuning out of the last three years of the obama administration and that helps explain the focus on hillary rodham clinton. what are your thoughts? >> if you talk to the obama people, they would love for the
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media to tune out. they would love to stop talking about obama care's failures and to start talking about it's successes. but benghazi, most of the country doesn't consider it to be a story. conservatives do, but most of the country doesn't. i think on hillary, yeah, we all agree it's sexist and it's cliche, the way they're treated. about this woman who's risen to an amazing height. this media does that to women. >> if a woman was hanging on to a man's wing tip, there would be an explosion. >> still to come, michelle obama turns 50 and the media are filled with gushing tributes and later should journal itselves re really criticize a woman about her battle with cancer?
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michelle obama turned 50 on friday and the media are awash in tributes. she has perfected a mean forehand as working on her yoga poses, "the washington post" quotes white house aid valerie jarrett saying she's at the top of her game. joining us now from new york, a today show contribute for and former "new york times" supporter. lola, i know you're a fan of michelle obama, but isn't the tone of some of this a little over the top? >> howie, she has turned 50, this is a huge milestone, and let's face it, michelle obama attracts eyeballs. if you want to sell papers, if you want to put people on your site, if you put michelle obama
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on your site, looking fabulous at 50 and you're going to move products. >> maybe that's why everyone's doing it. >> absolutely. >> the first lady is popular, she's personal, she's a great mom. not taking anything away from her, but the tone here of many who seem celebratory. >> there's plenty to say about michelle obama, it's such an incomplete picture to be relentlessly fawning over here. she's not just an elected official, she's an important political figure. you can take issue with her policy agenda which is pretty light for someone with her influence. >> she gave a speech about encouraging low income students to go to college. even that was pushed aside from all of those -- >> she's a professional woman, she's a strong woman, and all we talk about is her hair, makeup and work kuwait.
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>> i thi . >> i think she is a woman with tremendous insight and i do wish the media would focus on all that she's done as first lady. that being said, it's her birthday week so we can talk about all that she's done in influencing policy this week, next week we'll have a -- >> you can be my cla. >> is it the media's role to be part of the party? >> no, absolutely not, there are critiques to be made and they very rarely get made. she sells a lot of papers and magazines. >> and generates a lot of clicks. but the only interview she gave during this period was the one with "people" magazine. >> you push all the time for access for the white house. i cover the east wing which is a real pressure cooker, and here the white house gives no access except to "people" magazine, where's the incentive for them
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to provide us with interviews? we undermine our own message here. >> lola, obviously in addition to her wonderful attributes, i don't remember laura bush getting anything like this kind of coverage when she turned 60 you see a shift in standards here? >> i think it comes down to ma michelle obama brings eyeballs. michelle obama is more than a political figure, she's a pop culture phenom and that's why she's getting all this etension. i have interviewed her twice over the year, she is a rock star, if you travel with her, people come out in droves in the street. i have seen it in pennsylvania and i have seen it in south africa. she's bigger than a political figure. >> the news media has made her a rock star. laura bush was an incredibly popular first lady, i don't
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remember them celebrating her like they celebrated michelle obama. >> she's very media savvy. >> dynamic character. >> she goes on jimmy fallon or elon and she dances and she does a lot of stick, but just because she's popular and drives ratings and we're all sensitive to that, it does raise questions of fairness, that if we're in a position of celebrating her and she's a democrat and a republican first lady didn't get the same treatment, that trouble mels a little bit. >> where's the agenda, the high turnover in the east wing, some of her missteps kind of get glossed over because she's so popular. >> we should be focusing -- turning 50 is such a baby boomer thing, we should all the just revel in it. >> i think she should be looked at and examined for the policy work she's done. she's a brilliant woman and i
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think more of the focus should be on her brain and not her beauty or her braun. that said, this week, let's focus on the other b, her birthday, and next week, jewelry, next week, next week you can take her to task for not allowing you to interview her, okay? >> every day, every day, i'm on that every day. >> one of the penetrating questions on the people interview was, is it a lot of pressure to keep your arms so toned? >> it is anti-feminist and she should speak out against that. >> nothing wrong with trying to look good. >> you want to look good, but 1 hair, makeup, clothes, celebrity. >> i've got my arms out, i think michelle obama liberated a number of women in the news, we didn't have to wear the blazers and the cardigans, she's working out, she's a billboard for her own message. she believes in health, she believes in eating well, what better commercial than michelle
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obama's arms. she's given us the right to bear arms and i love it. >> thanks very much for joining us. after the break, robert gates his book about president obama was hijacked by partisans. really? fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yeah. everybody knows that. did you know there is an oldest trick in the book? what? trick number one. look-est over there. ha ha. made-est thou look. so end-eth the trick. hey.... yes.... geico. fifteen minutes could save you...
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ely from america's news headquarters. chechen islamistsishis issuing warning before the sochi olympics threatening a surprise package for olympic spectators in sochi, unless russian troops leave the caucuses. that appears to be made by two of the alleged bombers from last month's attack on a train station that killed people. there's a new report that says a 17-year-old russian boy may have been the one who
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created the mall wear that allowed hackers to steal information on millions of target customers. he also reportedly sold his creation for around $2,000 or at a discount for anybody who agreed to share the ill gotten spoils from using it. that same malweare may have affected other systems. i was critical last week when we reviewed robert gate's book. the former defense chief pushed back this week on the today show. >> are you surprised by the reaction? >> not really surprised. but, you know, in a way disappointed because the book has sort of been hijacked by people along the political spectrum to serve their own purposes, taking quotes out of
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context, so some of what's been lost in the news media is that i actually agreed with virtually every decision president obama made on it. >> that may be true, but it was gates and his publisher who put out the juicy anecdotes because that's how you create buzz and sell books. gates did say more positive things about president obama and hillary clinton in his book "duty" and said that he agreed with the president's decision as we just heard on afghanistan, but that was predictably overshadowed by the anecdotes about what was said behind closed door. there's little point in him blaming the media coverage because that's the way the book was marketed. krista free land said she got tired of all the snark and jumped into politics instead, she'll tell us why in a moment. so be ady with a stouffer's lasagna. it's the mouthwatering recipe that keeps them coming back.
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christa freeland is a lifelong journalist krista freeland is a live long -- a familiar face on cable news. she gave that up last year to return to her native canada and win a seat in the parliament. in a peaceful political magazine, she writes that much of the media is based on stark. pointing out how vile, venal and hitch critical political leaders are. now snarky is the culture and
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-- >> i do want to start off by saying, i don't mean to be, and if you read the whole piece, i hope this will come across as some self righteous school or come across as holier than thou. and this is sort of taking off on a debate that has been raging in the blogosphere about snark versus smarm. the main point is that smarm is somehow sosrt of "kumbaya" and rose-colored glasses and the like. the point of the piece was that we actually need to have more of a culture of positive sbnt in our political atmosphere. more of a belief and a focus on the things that we can come together to do to get things right, rather than focusing on -- yes, you want to stop me?
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because i'm too "kumbaya"ish? >> i don't know if that's snarky, but that's the culture too. >> as i was watching the show today obviously and i heard someone say, you know, no one is interested in what happens in the white house anymore. no one's going to be interested at all. and i thought to myself, you know, that is so sad and people need to focus on the positive and focus on the -- not just on the horserace element, and then i thought to myself, oh, no, that was probably not sell very many magazines, if howard did that, maybe his ratings wouldn't be very high. having said all of that, i think we have to collectively try to move in that direction, because at the end of the day, what this is about is can we have effective democracies. >> by being snarky, journalism
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doesn't necessarily undermine faith in politics but uncover political cover-ups and political match nations. >> as you know, one of the points i made in the piece is there is a fundamental disding turn sh you would call the job of the critic a and the job of the prosecutor and the job of the builder. and if you're in a critic role, you have to be a prosecutor, an investigator, uncover what's going wrong. but my argument was we also really need a space, and i would say particularly in the political arena where we focus on building, where we talk about constructively what can we do? and i was actually, as i was thinking about talking with you today, howard, i thought a little bit about the difference between political journalism and business journalism, which as you know, i have done a lot of. and this is journalism that actually focuses less on the
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personalities, more on what business does, of course it needs to be critical and personal post 2008, a lot of financial journal is said we really have to be more critical than we have to be. but the steve job apple covers, to sort of celebrate, and say wow, these guys have come up with something great and new. >> it seems i read a lot associated with yahoo and various other tech titans. buzz it in part, disillusionment that prompted you to leave what was a pretty nice life in new york and go up to canada and run for a parliament member. >> i love journalism and i love journalists, but it was a desire to meet into the world of being a builder and trying to do something constructive and positive. - >> as opposed to tearing things down? >> not so much that, but as you
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pointed out, there's an element of being a critic and certainly an observer, which is an essential part of being a good and honest journalist. and i really think there is some big problems we face right now. you know, my work has focused a lot on the hollowed out middle class and the way the 21st century economy is working differently, and i felt maybe there was something i could do to help come up with a solution. >> a good note to enden. thank you very much for checking in with us from toronto on your new life. coming up, a former new york times editor and his wife hit with a huge backlash. our digital download is up next. at panera bread, we've crafted our power bowls to help you power your day.
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time now for our digital download. bill keller this week challenged a woman who was "new york times" columnist bill keller questioned whether lisa bonncheck adams should be blogging about her cancer treatment. >> the "new york times" editor took on a woman who was sharing her cancer journey with the world. an outpouring that forced the paper and keller to respond and howie had also forced lisa adams a former blogger and tweeter to respond by saying this, worth repeating to @"new york times" keller. i am alive. do not write me off and make statements about how my life ends until it does, sir. but the fact that he got right about me only required reading my tweets and blog. >> i found bill keller's column and that of his wife emma keller
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to be incensensitive and tone d. but they were crucified as if they had attacked lisa adams. i have been astounded at how all the utterly misconstrued it has been. it seems to me that he attacked a woman who was talking her way through her cancer treatment. >> he says to his own paper, he tried to be clear that he respects her choices and her critics seem that anything short of a right on lisa is inhumane or sacrilegious. nobody has to read it. >> nobody has to write about it in this way either saying it's too much information or who is she to be talking about death like this.
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that generation thinks you should keep things quiet, as his father-in-law did when he was dying and my generation and those who are younger than me say we're going to share, this is our prerogative, we have the tools to share, twitter, facebook and that's what we want to do. >> and everyone lives online now and if they want to share, i don't have any problem with that whatsoever. and that is therapeutic, i think, probably, for someone who is going through such a terrible struggle and has three kids as you point out. >> but that's not what keller or his wife said in the guard yang. >> keller took down this column after this criticism erupted and she made a partial apology saying given lisa adams help she should have given her a advanced warning that she was going to quote from a private
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conversation. #. >> all journalists will gasp at that, if you're talking to them under the guise as a friend, then quote them in the guardian. >> she herself had a double p t mastectomy, do you think the. >> she's a mother of three going about her own business, who is at stage 4 cancer. when this happened, she was going through the worst radiation treatment she could have. and now, has to defend hers on twitter and facebook. how insensitive. she should be focusing on her care. i admire emma keller for apologizing and i think bill keller should do the same thing. >> and he thinks she was misconstru misconstrued. >> a lot of people don't, and a young woman who's trying to deal the best way she can with her
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live seems not just to be ignorant of what is happening in the world, but also to be mean and she has one other tweet that says everyone has the right to die how they want. i am exactly the one who will refuse treatment when it's time to. but that is not now. >> we'll be back with the buzz words of this segment in just a moment. [ crash, alarm blaring ]
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time wants to swear her in today using it's crappy magazine instead of bible. people think that benghazi is a nonstory because the liberal media tells them so. first a programming note, a biography of fox news chairman we will talk about it on next week's show. i want to announce right here and now that i was wrong. i said the huge controversy over "duck dynasty" would produce monster ratings when the show returned, but while the season premier drew an impressive 8.5 million viewers, that was down 28% from the last year. finally a new documentary is out called mitt. sometimes laughing, sometimes frustrated through the ups and downs of two cam pages, ending
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with the candidate watching the 2012 returns with his family when he realized he lost the race. >> what do you say in a concession speech. >> critics say it's a glimpse at the rather -- >> you have to a admire a man for doing this. you absolutely do for allowing cameras in to such a personal moment that could have been very awkward for him. i remember at the republican convention, ann romney came out with a wonderful video about mitt romney and his sons in his kitchen playing pranks, and it is true, you never really got to see that man on the trail. >> a lot of people think it would have been better if it had come out on the trail. >> people thought of him -- >> people are liking this movie. >> that's it for this edition of media buzz. i'm howard kurtz. go to our facebook page and give us a lively post with a video
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there, we'll respond to your comments and we'll be back here next sunday morning, as we are every sunday morning, that's 11:00 a.m. eastern, 5:00 p.m. eastern, back at you with the latest buzz. i'm chris wallace. president obama sets new limits on government surveillance but finds its much harder to strike the balance as president than it was as a candidate. no more illegal wiretapping of american citizens, no more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient. we cannot prevent terrorist attacks or cyber threats without some capability to penetrate digital communications. >> we'll discuss the new reform with the former head of the nsa and cia, general michael hayden. and patrick leahy who wants still more privacy