running. 600 babies this time. and before we leave you tonight, i want to remind you you can continue the conversation with the fox news insiders on foxnews.com. they get started at 10:30 a.m. on the website. have a great week. tonight on huckabee, days after he said he'll use his pen to sign executive orders without conquest, the president changed his tune when it came to reforming the waiss the nsa collects your information. can republicans in congress work with the president? senate minority leader mitch mcconnell reacts. and millions of americans' credit cards hacked. who's paying the bill and how can you protect your credit from thieves? gerri willis has advice. plus, she had a choice. keep her unborn baby or her eyesight. her decision on huckabee tonight.

ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. >> thank you very much. thank you. and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. well, this week, a couple of hundred thousand people are going to descend on washington, d.c. in the annual march for life. if i hadn't just told you about it, you probably would have never heard about it. you know, let a dozen or so occupy wall street protesters set up camp on the washington mall. it will get full attention on the nightly news and most likely make the front pages of the "new york times" and "washington post." 250,000 pro-life advocates, will at best get a ho-hum brief mention, implying that a bunch of right wing nuts are engaged on a war on women, and there's a better than even chance that the group is going to be labeled as anti-abortion, throw it prefers

and deserves the moniker of pro life. if they are antiabortion, does that make the opposition pro-abortion instead of pro-choice? it would appear that abortion advocates believe in choice, so long as the choice is to end the life of the baby. but if a mother chooses to be a mother and give birth, does that make her selfish? stupid? or enslaved? it doesn't help that some of the supposed rock stars of the republican cultionsulting tell candidates not even to discuss issues bike the sankitary of life for fear of offending women voters. what they fail to recognize is just because they can't defend the life position, it doesn't mean that some of us can't. the ridiculous claim that a pro-life position is a war on women is an insult to the millions of women who make extraordinary sacrifices for their children. for democrats to reduce women to beggars for cheap government

funded birth control is demeaning to the women i know who are far more complicated than their libido and the management of their reproductive system. women i know also have brains and they use them creatively and effectively, and they can manage everything from a business to a household. democrats pushing this war on women nonsense, well, they pretend that women are helpless and hopeless unless the government pays for abortion and birth control. treating women as victims of their gender is outrageous. and that's the opposite of an appropriate respect for women as equal and worth as well as value as men. it's why i appreciate strong women like sarin foster, who heads an organization called feminists for life, or margely dannenfelder, the ceo of the susan b. anthony fund. these are women who want no part of being miniaturized or marginalized as incapability of

responsibility for their unique and noble abilities as women. they understand that real power for a woman is to give life, not to take it. the good news is that increasing numbers of younger women are decidedly pro life. in part, because believing that life has value from its origins is consistent with solid science, and in part because they recognize that devaluing any life is hardly the means to elevate women. for the timid, hand-wringing republican consultants who are afraid to take a stand for life, look instead at the admirable example of reince priebus who this week will delay the convening of the rnc winter meeting so national committee members can participate in the march for life. he's demonstrated that the best way to counter this democrats' phony charge of a war on women is to lead in the war for women. all women. even the ones yet to be born.

[ applause ] well, in announcing his proposed changes to innsa surveillance program on friday, president obama said he wants to work with leaders on capitol hill. >> i will consult with the relevant committees in congress to seek their views. and then seek congressional authorization for the new program as needed. >> now, that's a surprising statement from the president, considering what he said earlier this week before his first cabinet meeting of the year. >> we are not just going to be waiting for a legislation in order to make sure that we're providing americans the kind of help they need. i've got a pen, and i've got a phone. and i can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions. >> okay, so will he or won't he work with congress? joining me now is mitch mcconnell of kentucky. senator, good to have you back on the show.

>> glad to be with you. >> the president says that the first of the week, he can do it on his own. last of the week, he says, no, i really want to work with congress. which president do you believe is telling us the truth? >> yeah, well, we get both versions routinely. i think he would be smart to work with congress. look, everybody's concerned about their privacy. but we're also concerned about avoiding another 9/11 attack. and a number of the techniques we developed in the last ten years have prevented those attacks. i think we can meet the balance between americans understandably high concern about their privacy and still protecting us from another terrorist attack. he would be smart, rather than doing that all by himself, to engage congress. i think we all have the same goal here. how do you square these two concerns? privacy on the one hand versus protecting the public from a terrorist attack on the other?

>> there's also an article you wrote this week in politico, and you outlined some of the challenges faced in the senate, notably, that harry reid's heavy handed approach to cutting off debate is really taking away the very intent of what our founders meant for the senate. can it be fixed? >> yeah, it can be fixed. one person could fix it. if i were the majority leader of the senate next year instead of harry reid, i could fix it, because what he's done, governor -- [ applause ] >> there's a parliamentary technique available only to the majority leader, whoever that is, to prevent the minority, for that matter, his own members from getting amendments, to show you how bad it's been in the senate, republicans have had four role call votes in six months. the senate used to be a

free-flowi free-flowi free-flowing place for the majority and the minority, where all people's ideas were considered and somehow, the process worked and worked for over 200 years. the majority leader of the senate has turned the senate the to a place where you can't get your amendments voted on. what that means is, those of us all across the country who represent people, are not being given an opportunity to present the ideas of the people of the states we come from. it can change with just one move. and that's where the american people to elect a new majority, a republican majority, of the united states senate. i promise we will open up the amendment process. >> you certainly convinced our audience here, senator. by the way, i need to disclose, too, our television audience, i don't want anyone to be misled. i have endorsed you in your re-election bid because i would like to see you as the majority leader instead of the minority

leader. if you were in that role, would you reverse the policy of the nuclear option that was invoked by harry reid and the democrats, because that really did take away the voice of the minority? something that had been respected and traditionally upheld throughout all of american history. >> yeah, what they did was to break the rules of the senate in order to change the rules of the senate. it's a big deal. didn't get a lot of press, but a very big deal. this is entirely consistent with what the president did a couple years ago when he decided we were not in session when we were in session, and issued what was called a recess appointment. we had a hearing before the supreme court, just this week, governor, and when even elena kagan and sonya sotomayor are pounding the government's lawyers, i think there's a good chance the united states supreme court with a very broad margin, is going to slap down the president's attempt to

declare -- [ applause ] >> what he was doing in effect is saying he got to decide when we were in session. i mean, even elena kagan wasn't buying that. i think the president's going to be slapped down and we're going to run the senate next year with a new majority and a more open and respectful way of the process, and still move america right of center. >> senator, this week, you have also taken action to protect the coal industry. it's a big industry to kentucky and also to west virginia and virginia. there are many states where coal is critical. what action are you taking to try to stop the epa from what is nothing less than a very heavy handed approach to destroy the coal industry in america? >> yeah, it's tragic. we've got a depression, not a recession, a depression in central appalachia. we have lost 5,000 out of 18,000 coal mining jobs in my state.

for every coal mining job you lose, you lose three more. a depression created by this administration and the epa. they're issuing a regulation, governor, that if it goes through, will guarantee there will never be another coal-fire plant built in america. and that's 40% of our electricity. coal keeps the lights on. what we're doing is implementing what is called a congressional review process to try to overturn that regulation. i'm not optimistic, obviously, that the president would sign it if we can put it on his desk, but we're going to try. the only way to end this depression is to have a new president, a new administration, and i'm optimistic we're going to get that in three years. >> well, i'm hoping, i think a lot of other people are, that that will happen. senator, great to have you here. thank you for joining us. it's a real pleasure. >> thank you, governor. i really appreciate it. >> by the way, the coal issue is one that affects you. it's your electric bill. so it does matter to every

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shoppers weren't the only ones who were this past holiday season. hackers took full advantage of the buying frenzy and scammed millions of customers. major retailers like neiman marcus and target confirmed a mid-december security breach, finding customers' curedit card data had been breached.

last month, target reported than hackered had compromised the security of 40 million credit and debit card users. this week, it was announced that the breach affected an additional 70 million american people. that means the security impact affected 1 in 3 americans. the breach not only stole credit card information including card number, expiration date, and security codes, but also included data such as home addresses and e-mail addresses. greg has to assure customers target will cover the cost of fraudulent activity. >> zero liability means target is paying for any possible fraudulent activity on anybody's credit card. >> target claims the hackers obtained the information tlum malware in the credit card reading system. >> several banks are now sending customers new debit and credit cards due to the hack. jp morgan reportedly sending out 2 million replacement cards to

their customers. joining me is fox business network's gerri willis. great tohave you here. let me get right to it. should we stop using credit cards? >> yes, maybe. let me tell you, you have several options as a consumer. a, number one, use more cash. not every family can do that because a lot of families use credit cards to bridge the gap. if you can, do. number two, use fewer credit cards if you can. i have an expert on my show recently say you need to check your credit card every single day. if you have 15 of them, it's hard to do. i recently got one of these super chip in pin cards that will protect you even more. >> explain that super chip in pin card that will protect us. >> so, it's called an emv cart, a smart card. it has a microchip embedded in the card and does a much better job of protecting your personal information. we took a look recently at how many times your information floats through the system with just one credit card purchase.

12 times. 12 people exchange your information. that's a lot of opportunity for hackers to get your stuff. >> this card, how do you get one of those as opposed to just a magnetic strip? >> it's tough in this country because it's not the rule. i begged my credit card issuer for one and got one, but it's not what everybody is doing and it's because of the cost, some $2 billion to turn the country over to chip in pin. they don't want to spend the money. >> mau much did target alone lose over the hacking into their system and all of their cust mrbs. >> by their estimates, it would be somewhere around $80 million. they lost some $2 billion in market value. others, the banks had to send out cards all over the country, so millions and millions of cards. that's very expensive, and i think you probably heard about the other hacks that have gone on, some six other retailers may have been hacked at the same time. now, if that's true, the estimates are that the total losses to the system, banks and retailers, $180 billion.

>> billion. so $2 billion to fix it, but we're going to spend $180 billion. that kind of makes one wonder why don't we go to a better system? >> i wish i could answer that question because i don't have a good answer. i asked retailers, bankers. they're just not ready to pony up the dough. there's a rule coming into effect in another year, 2015, they're supposed to up grade, but it's not a federal law, not a legal requirement. it's a promise to upgrade the cards. this snebt could be the tipping point that forces the issuers to start upgrading the cards. >> and other countries use these cards already? >> north korea. >> come on, they eat grass. they don't even have food. >> it's true. if you have a credit card in north korea, you have a safer credit card than right here. if you're french, you have a better credit card. the europeans all use this technology. >> when a credit card hacker gets into a system like what happened at target, we know they

get the credit card information. what other information about the consumer might they be able to have, just from that transaction? >> your street address, where you live, personal information about how much you spend. but consider this, target has pharmacy cards, which a lot of people use. you have all your medical information on that. what if they get that? that's a lot of detail about what kind of drugs you use. they might try to steal the information about that so they can replicate that information, and essentially get drugs on your dime. >> well, i don't guess i'll be pulling out my credit card any time soon. actually, i probably will, but it does make me wonder and realize we need to get a better system in place. gerri willis, thank you so much for being here. great information. >> thank you. so the senate committee makes it conclusions on the benghazi attack, and a movie mogul that thinks he's going to take out the nra with a movie. a notable quotables, that's next. we'll be right back. ♪ le love is strange ♪

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beginning february 6th, experience the winter games everywhere. welcome to what's next. comcast nbcuniversal retired senator shell lieberman called it like it is, especially when it comes to the war on terror. this week, he warned the senate committee that the obama administration doesn't have a coherent anti-terror plan for syria or iraq or libya, and that's causing concern among our allies. >> across the middle east and beyond, the credibility of american leadership is being questioned, as it has not been for a very long time. among friends and enemies alike, there are doubts about our staying power, questions about our reliability as an ally, and suspicions that at the end of the day, america will hesitate to back up our promises and historic commitments with the use of force if necessary in a

dangerous world. >> how refreshing to hear a member -- a former member in this case, of the united states senate, being straightforward about the disasters of our foreign policy. say what you will about joe lieberman, but what think i always appreciated is his steadfast commitment to understanding the delicate nature of what is going on in the middle east. he realizes what we have done is sell out our friends and tried to make friend with the enemies. we have busted our trust with our friends and done nothing to gain the respect or fear of our enemies. they dance in the streets of tyronn, believing they have won the philosophical battle with the americans. in the meantime, the friends we have had in israel and saudi arabia no longer trust us. and why would they? thank you, jolting joe. keep up the good work. after countless congressional hearings on the benghazi consulate attack that killed

four americans, the senate intelligence committee issued a sobering report on its findings. it says the attacks were preventable based on extensive intelligence reporting on the terrorist activity in libya to include prior threats to attacks against western targ lts and given the known security shortfalls at the u.s. mission. for months, we tried to get information, and honest answers about what happened in benghazi. we now know at least this much. it can could have been prevented. now, the question. if it could have been, why wasn't it? who's responsible? and will they ever be held accountable for the deaths of those four americans? as long as i have the picture of tyrone woods, one of the four who were murdered that night, right in my studio at home, right in front of me, i look at it every day, i promise i will not forget to continue to demand that we get answers about

benghazi and every american should join with me in insisting we find out what really happened and who is responsible. >> well, this week, movie mogul harvey weinstein went on howard stern's radio show, talking about an upcoming project based on a novel about a holocaust uprisi uprising. he told howard stern the only justification for using a gun is when you're moving half a million people into auschwitz. then the conversation went here. >> i don't think we need guns in this country, and i hate it, and i think the nra is a disaster area and i'm going to actually make a movie, i shouldn't say this, but i'll tell it to you, howard, i'm going to make a movie with meryl streep and we're going to take it head on. they're going to wish they weren't alive when i get done with them. >> ooh, i'm sure they're scared at the nra headquarters right now. well, it was one thing that harvey did say that was right. he said i shouldn't have said

this, howard. he shouldn't have said it. let me tell you why. as a life member of the nra, can i just tell it, something to harvey? i don't think any of the members of the nra are afraid of you. you know what we're afraid of? a disarmed america where the only people who end up having guns will be bad guys with guns because the nra's position is pretty simple, straightforward. the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a gun who can stop him, because you're not going to stop a bad guy with a gun by saying, please, please, don't do that. well, every say to someone, it's funny because it's true? ladies and gentlemen, i give you this. courtesy of jimmy kimmel. >> just to make sure younger people do sign up, the obama administration is rolling out a new ad campaign that's targeted specifically at the young and vibrant. >> i'm alex. this is my wife martha, and we're both approaching the big

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live from america's news headquarters, i'm harris faulkner. the obama administration is dealing with another delay in the enforcement of the affordable care act. one provision prohibits employers from giving better benefits to top executives than other employees. the irsorce that because they have not given any deadli guidelines on how to do that. they say simply, the denay is not new information. terrorists say non wn will

be safe at the winter olympics in sochi, russia, next month. men claiming to be jihadists posted a video on a chechen website. fox news has confirmed the u.s. intelligence community is working together to assess whether this threat is credible. now back to huckabee. our other news source, foxnews.com. you're watching the most powerful name in news, fox. the husband and father of a brain dead pregnant woman in texas are suing the hospital that's keeping her on life support to stop treatment. eric munes you found his wife unconscious at home in november. she was 14 weeks pregnant. she's since been on life support in ft. worth where doctors are monitoring the condition of her unborn baby. eric says in the past, his wife and he agreed not to seek life support in a situation like this, and he's concerned about the long term damage to the baby. well, joining me now is a woman

who had to make a tough choice when she was pregnant. gale was told by her doctor if she continued to carry her unborn second child, she would go blind. and he strongly advised her to terminate the pregnancy, but gale chose to give birth to her daughter, lindsay, over her eye sight. gale is the author of the remarkable book called "seen beyond" and joins me now. gale, the decision that the doctor put in front of you was one that most of us can't even begin to comprehends. he said if you carry this baby to term, you'll go blind. and he urged you to abort your daughter. was it an easy decision to say no, i'm going to keep the baby? >> no, it was a very difficult decision, and it wasn't just that decision, because we have a total of five children. so it was a decision with each of our children, where i gradually lost my eye sight, but

the day that the doctor came in and said you have to choose today between your baby and your eyes, i could tell you there was nothing that had ever prepared me for the moment, except i remembered a passage i remembered as a young girl, it was about choices, life and death in front of me and life was a better choice. that's all i had to go on. i didn't know the consequences, what the results would be, but this one thing i know, that life is always a gift. life is the best choice. >> you knew full well if you carried this baby to term, that there was a very strong likelihood you would lose your eye sight, this would be a baby you would never personally soowith your own human eyes. >> and that's what makes it difficult, because there are consequences to the decision i made. but in the middle of all of it, i found something. i found that vision was birth in my darkest hour.

that's what we have to have, a vision for the generations yet to come. if you're asking me how did i choose between convenience and legacy, legancy wins hands down every time. governor, i try to focus on not what i have lost but what i have gained, and what i have gained is the potential for the next generation. >> we had a picture on the screen behind us, a picture of that daughter and her daughter. your granddaughter. so generations now are coming after you, gael, that would never have been, had you made a different decision, and i understand that the doctor even was angry at you and childed you for making the decision. tell me about that. >> well, when he said you have to choose, i said, well, i choose my baby. the doctor stood up, slammed shut my folder, and said what a foolish decision, and he left the room. i sat alone, again, not knowing what the consequences were, but my core in me, the pillar, my anchor that day, also became my

compass, and it's that passage, to choose life, and i knew that life was the gift. i had no idea the details and what would happen. i had no idea it would bring me to meet you today and to experience and tell everyone, we've got to quit living life based on what we see. based on what we see is limited and definitely it's discouraging and disappointing at times, but that's the difference with vision. and i'm not sure what's happened in america that we can't see the value of life. life is a gift. life is to be valued. yes, are there inconvenient moments? yes. are there always concerns with a parent that your child will be okay? yes, is there love even when your child has some kind of handicap or challenge they have to work through? yes. life is to be valued no matter what. my biggest concern is not only the child within but people valuing our lives now. valuing your life, governor. you have been strategically positioned for this hour. that's to be valued. and none of us can see the full

potential of where our lives will go, but we trust that life is a gift. we trust the promise. >> it's a powerful story. when we come back, i want to apply the situation that you had to face to situations that are also going around, including the one taking place in ft. worth, texas. when we come back, more with gail. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is betsy. her long day of pick ups and drop offs begins with arthritis pain... and a choice. take up to 6 tylenol in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. all aboard. ♪

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mcwilliams. gail in ft. worth texas, the very sad case of marlise munoz, who has been declared brain dead. she's got a baby now, like in the 22nd week, i think, of pregnancy. her husband would like to end the life support for her, which would of course take the life of her baby. if you could talk to him, what would you say to him? >> well, first of all, i would give him great empathy. i know what it is in the middle of a crisis to have to choose life. i know what it is to give up so much so someone else can live. and what i would say to him is thank you for the noble act of laying your life down. that's what his wife has done, to lay her life down so another might be born. and i'm sure that it's very difficult to see someone you love decaying all around you. it's a bittersweet situation, i understand that, having lost my eye sight having our children, but i think i would encourage

him about the vision of the potential of the next generation, that in the middle of great loss has come this gift, and it will -- this gift has the potential to go beyond. it's a legacy piece. to go beyond what they have lost. >> it's kind of like when i look at the picture of your daughter and now your granddaughter, i think, if you had made a different decision, that picture wouldn't exist. that picture wouldn't be available for us to put on the screen. your story wouldn't be the story. you and i wouldn't be talking because you would have gone on and lived your life with eye sight and you never would have told this story, but i find myself remarkably impressed you're not angry at that young man in texas. you don't speak to him with a sense of judgment, but with love and compassion for him, for the tough decision he faces. >> this is a difficult decision, and the truth of the matter is, his wife is giving to him a gift. and it's taken her very last breath to do so. it's a noble act, and i'm sure he has many around him

supporting him, just to pull the plug, and i would like to believe, governor, even when we make statements, what i want at the end of our life, sometimes there's twists and turns we never know. i never wanted to be a woman who couldn't see, but you know what i realized? i have been dropped into a blind world. we have lost sight of what's really important. and we only see life based on what we see, but there's more to it. and so many times we fail to see the potential, and especially the treasure of this particular moment that we have been strategically positioned, and in the middle of all of it, is there hardship? yes, but there's also joy in the journey. someone asked how can you have so much joy and you can't see? i said, how can you see and have no joy? it's about a choice. choosing life. >> i don't know what anyone can say that could be more powerful than what you have just said. even just to see the radiance of your face is to see a person who only lost sight but did not lose life. and what a joy.

what an honor and a thrill to have you here, to hear your story and to be affirmed again, in the reality of the important things of life. >> governor huckabee, i am your best friend. you'll always look great to me. >> god bless you. thank you, gail. what a privilege to talk with you. gail mcwilliams. i hope you'll read her wonderful, wonderful book. well, there are not enough young people signing up for obamacare to bang roll it, so who is going to pay for all the medical bills? i'm going to ask ohio's director of insurance, and lieutenant governor mary tailor, next. we'll be right back. say a lot about the most track-tested is ever... but the truth is... we don't have to. the experts have spoken. now it's your move. ♪

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obamacare needs healthy young adults to sign up in order to offset the cost of coverage

for older people who need more medical care, but it's not happening, according to the department of health and human services. in fact, only 24% of the 2.2 million americans who have signed up are even under the age of 34. latest desperate attempt to get young people to sign up the obama administration recruited basketball hall of famer magic johnson. >> young people think they are super man like nothing is ever going to happen to them. trust me, one day something is going to happen and you are going to need a quality health plan. make sure you get obamacare? >> what is going to happen with obamacare with more young people don't sign up? joining us from the ohio department of insurance is mary tailor. the whole plan is predicated upon younger people buying in. what happens if they don't? >> unfortunately it's already happening. we are going to have risk pools that are sicker and older and

necessary for this to be successful. in ohio only 19 percent those that signed up are between the age of 19 and 24. it's a serious issue. from a insurance company and consumer perspective. pay the claims when they come due. >> the whole idea was you get young people who aren't going to have any claims they are going to pay the premiums there's money in reserve and the sicker people and the older people will be living off the younger people. if the younger people don't sign up and only people in there are the sicker people there's not enough money to cover it. then what happens to the insurance companies? >> premiums continue to go up. we are concerned about the insurance company staying in business so they can play the claims. if they are able to get prices up soon enough they are going to be bankrupt. that's gobad for consumers. >> a lot of promises were made you can keep your health

insurance or doctor or 2500 per family. but there was also a promise there would be more competition, more companies would rush into the marketplace to offer. in ohio for example what's happened? more people come to the marketplace? >> unfortunately just the opposite. less consumer choice and less competition. on the exchange -- in ohio before the exchange we had 60 companies selling individual health insurance. on the exchange we have 12. >> whoa. only one in five of the companies that are selling insurance before are now still in the marketplace? >> yes on the exchange. premiums went up 40 percent on average in individual market. small group premiums went up on average 18 percent. prices went up consumer choice went down and competition decreased. >> everything that was supposed to happen hasn't happened. i think every person who worked

in the state saw this coming. you knew it wasn't going to be the fix for everything. what were the danger signs from the beginning this administration didn't pay attention to? >> all of the new mandates we talked earlier about you having pregnancy coverage for example. >> you never know. who knows. >> you never know. >> i think i do. the in this case i think i do. but it doesn't make sense. we all intuitively know that doesn't make sense. we all have to have coverage we don't want we have don't need and can't afford. when you layout a program that is forcing to have a one-size fits all solution we are not one size fits all people. so there's no way to be successful. >> when the insurance companies are told okay you can't offer this policy and the president comes back at the end of the year and says go ahead and offer it anyway, why is that impractical? there's a lot of things that have to happen behind the scenes, right? >> when the insurance companies are pricing the products they

made a decision and projection about who was going to participate in the exchange. that throws off their numbers which means premiums are going to go up even more for those on the exchange. the plans may not even be available any more. they expected not to continue the plans. it's likely the plans aren't even there. >> do you think there will be a major change to obamacare, repeal? tweaks? what is the future likely to hold? >> my hope is that it would be repealed. (applause) >> one thing about it it has not lived up to all of the things it was supposed to be. we are not talking about the web site we are talking about the program itself and how challenging it is. if this whole thing fails will it put us to a singer payer system? >> it's a little early.

if this thing fails it is not going to work. this is closer to a single payer system than where we were. let's go back to giving the states flexibility, like ohio let us make decisions about what is best for our consumers and open up the mafr ket place. >> what a novel idea. let the states govern themselves. i like that idea. mary thank you so much for being here. great to have you. >> thank you. >> i will be back with closing thoughts after this. stay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] to truck guys, the truck is everything. and when you put them in charge of making an unbeable truck, good things happen. this is the ram 1500. the 2014 motor trend truck of the year. ♪ and first ever back-to-back champion. guts. glory.

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