tomorrow on the program, cheryl casone with the top companies hiring military veterans and laura ingraham and governor scott walker and i bet somehow, brian will be able to walk away without paying the bill this morning. what did i tell you! congress pushing forward with a plan for even tighter restrictions. we are less than three minutes until the opening ceremonies for the winter games and another terrorist threat against the games in russia. this comes in the form of a video from an islamist group

saying there will be a surprise package for those who plan to attend the games. martha: good morning, everybody. i'm martha maccallum. world leaders are vasing their concerns. the u.s. officials have issued a travel advisory for the country the olympics are in. they say these threats are not to be taken lightly. >> all the briefings i received indicate there are serious concerns. i do believe putin is stepping up security. bill: that was congressman mccaul from russia. >> those threats are being taken seriously around the world

including the u.s. that video was put out by an islamist group and they made a direct threat. this group is being taken seriously because they are believed to be the same group between the twin suicide bombings in volgograd last month. web those pictures went around the world and sent a warning to everybody, killed dozens of team. president putin says this security forces are up to the job. >> the job of the olympics host is to insure security of the participants of the olympics and visitors. we'll do whatever it takes. >> reporter: whatever it takes might sound good but that also worries security agencies because russian security forces have shown a willingness in hostage situations to shoot first and ask questions later

with little regard for the safety of the hostages. bill: there is concern russia is not cooperating with countries like the united states sending athletes to that country. >> reporter: in any olympics the host nation takes the lead in organizing security. but usually there is a great deal of collaboration and information sharing just to help the few of the sights to make sure the athletes are safe as they can possibly be. apparent that has not been happening to the extents u.s. officials would like to see it. it is a major concern. according to congressman mike rogers who is chair of the house intelligence committee here. >> reporter: people are pushing and pulling on this. this shouldn't be this difficult. it's in everyone interest including the russians to make sure that our activities are -- our athletes and the

participants are safe when they go to the games. >> reporter: u.s. officials are also studying contingency plans how they might be able to go in and rescue american citizens if it's necessary. but a lot of issues there because the russians very rarely accept outside help if the pors is to happen. bill: it will be a big story the next towel months. march very security surrounding the games in so chicago is said to be unprecedented. 1,400 cameras have been installed throughout the town. there will be 100,000 security personal in addition to 40,000 police officers. the price tag, an estimated $3 billion for security in sochi. >> we'll refresh this for your

viewers. down here on the black see is the towno -- the black sea is the town of so chicago. shall the town of sochi. dagestan is where the boston bombers went for help. dagestan is where nine people were injured from the latest town that took place. jonathan mentioned volgograd. the olympic torch passed through this town over the weekend and volgograd goes through dagestan. we'll see if the police keep that safe. 15,000 americans will descend on sochi the next couple weeks.

athletes, participants, visitors. there is so many soft targets all over that area outside of that zone is the reason for the tension. martha: that's where we have seen the messages sent so far. we'll be following it closely the next couple weeks. in the next time this fox news alert. a new video showing plea for help from an american held until captivity in north korea. missionary kenneth bay is begging the u.s. to dough everything it can to get him out. the news conference was held under heavily armed guard. he was arrested in 2012 while leading a tour group. he's serving a 15-year sentence

accused of crimes against the state. there has been another delay in obamacare. a mandate that required companies to treat all employees equally when giving healthcare. now it's on hold. stuart varney joins key in now. happy monday to you. what's this all about? >> want some more confusion and delay? section 2716 of obamacare says you own a company, you can't offer a better health plan to executives and the rest of the company. that rule has been put on hold. the irs cannot define the value of a healthcare plan, can't define who is highly paid and who is not, and cannot define discrimination against those who

don't get the valuable healthcare plan. it's just a definitional thing the irs hasn't gotten round to it. so this law, this rule, part of obama carols not being enforced this year. corn fused? >> as we often say with regard to all of this they have had several years to get this plan up and running. it's shocking that one of the elements of it -- the details hadn't been worked out by the irs. >> reporter: my question is what parts of obamacare are actually even forced as of right now? yes the texass are. we are all paying the higher taxes from obamacare. but we have an tension of the employer mandate. i don't know what the signup payment is. i don't know if my doctor this the new plan. there is so much confusion with delay and obscure rules which have not been defined that very, very few people can say exactly

where we are right now with obamacare. this is the latest delay. nobody can. martha: stuart, thank you very much. bill: another day of headlines out of new jersey. chris chris ski facing new allegations when the mayor of who -- the mayor of hoboken said she was eastward issued a threat to delay sandy funds. report * there are allegations the christy administration engaged in some type of political payback. this comes from new jersey who shall -- new jersey maybe dawn zimmer. she says the slt governor of new

jersey apparently tried to shake her down. at least that's her allegation. she was asked to support a real estate project and if she did not the governor's office would with hold federal funds from hurricane sandy because of that project. she says it's the rockefeller project that governor christie wanted built in her city. this comes from others as well. >> the lieutenant governor pulled me -- me aside and said you have got to move forward with the rockefeller project. this is important to the governor. report * mayor zipper recently said she is glad he's been governor. it's clear partisan politics are at play here as they come out of

the woodwork to get their faces on television. they say mayor zimmer has recently supported the governor in all this stuff. the new jersey state assembly probing the bridge scandal, now the panel is accused of engage in a political investigation. the legislature is mainly democrat and rudy giuliani accused the chairman of being partisan saying she step down. she respond saying mr. giuliani has no idea what he's talking about, saying the committee is acting in a bipartisan manner completely. bill: eric shawn in our newsroom. martha: 20 minutes away we'll bring in karl rove and scott brown. we'll get their take on what this could mean for the

governor's political future. the lieutenant governor will come out and make a statement. she was the one apparently in that conversation and she'll tell her side of the story. that's coming up as well. bill: it's a holiday. mlk day. but it's a busy day already. comparing terrorists to an amateur basketball team. what's that all about? martha: hillary clinton apparently work on a memoir to shore up her legacy before her presidential run. bill: is this polar vortex part two? the latest watches and warnings you need to hear about in a moment. >> my car was down the hill. it's very slick. and, yeah, there was nothing i could do. >> i was coming up the room here

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martha: an earthquake rattled new zealand. parts of a sculpt tiewfer an eagle fell to the ground. we hear everybody is okay. bill: in an interview with the "new yorker" magazine it compared groupslings to al qaeda with an amateur basketball team. quote the analogy we use sometimes is that the jayvee team puts on lakers uniform, that doesn't make them kobe

bryant. what do you think of that? how do you interpret that? >> i think it's shortsighted but it's a perfect window into the way the president sees the problem of al qaeda. he sees the group as static and doesn't i think engage in long term thinking. what he's seeing now is these groups putting on the lakers jersies. my problem is the modern day lakers were once jay vee players. >> it's an interesting analogy to draw in the first place. this is another thing you said in regard to fallujah. but the comment was made al qaeda is flying its banner over the city. the president says it's deeply divided along sectarian lines.

it's also a town where count letters marines fought and died. >> the president has a fatalistic tone in that comment. there was a time when fallujah was turning in the right direction because the united states had used its learn to get sunni tribesmen to stand up to external forces to try to make path forward. it was success seeding not long ago. and now it's not on tbaiblg but failed. bill: here is another comment. it is a sacrifice on behalf of the americans who wanted to secure it for people who wanted to choose a life out of al qaeda. here we go again. we have to be able to be distinguish, the president said, between these problems an

politically where we aren't using pliers where we need a hammer or a battalion when we should be partnering with local government to train their police force and improve their intelligence community. the initial comment pliers i stead of a hammer sounds like john kerry in 2004. who made a comment that you have to go after al qaeda as a police action, not a war. >> john kerry made the comment as a candidate. the president put it in play. virtually nobody disputes al qaeda is growing, strengthening, and gaining more territory than any time in its history. you look at an article in the mention times makes that case. there was a big straight ahead in up s.a. today. peter bergen, a terrorism

analyst who has in the past sounded notes sympathetic to what the administration makes. this is a problem. it's a failure to address al qaeda. it's a failure to adapt to the kind of changes that al qaeda has been making while our administration prefer to see this in a static way will as a snapshot. bill: you are right when you say it gives us a glimpse into the penalty inside the white house and how they approach this. it's fascinating to see tonight front now. thank you for your time. martha: authorities linked that massive security breach that happened over the holidays at target to a 17-year-old in russia. but the writer who first broke this story doesn't buy it. doesn't buy the who thing. bill: a police officer going the extra mile for a young boy and

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martha: there is uncertainty whether a russian teenager, 17 years old was the person behind the malware at target's massive security breach. the blogger who broke the story is disputing this 17-year-old russian is behind the huge data breach. with more on this, cheryl joins us from the fox business network. >> the cyber security firm issued a report saying this is a 17-year-old russian kid who is known to write really malicious code. we knew part of the code was written in russian. so we figured out on our own it was a russian person.

but brian krebbs is a well-respected blogger. he's disputing the report saying this 17-year-old kid in russia is the writer of the code. either way they need to get this person arrest. the secret service and fbi is work opening this. they have to to find this kid they are incredibly good. martha: what about target? it doesn't matter too much to their situation in that they compromised their integrity with millions of customers. >> reporter: target has bigger problems because this targeted multiple retailers. they found two retailers with the most open systems. that was target and neiman marcus.

this sophisticated software will attracts the swiping of the cards we have never seen before, that's' something we have to get ahead of because we pay with our credit cards. that's the way we do business in the united states of america and mostly around the world. but target has billions of dollars in lost revenues. american express, jp more dan chase saying there is a problem. we are seeing malicious charges, flights to lagos, nigeria. jpmorgan chase flagged this before target knew there was a problem. this is the most sophisticated cyber attack we have seen at this point. it's been a decade since we have seen a breach like this. tj maxxx had it happen 10 years ago.

>> reporter: there are reports that apple will come out with a mobile system. martha: thanks, cheryl, we'll follow it. bill: question of the day. do you trust your personal information online. snow and ice might be heading your way and it will be cold. winter warnings that are out today. martha: new jersey governor chris christie hit with new allegations this weekend. but the governor's office just motors away is fighting back. >> i'm as focused on completing this mission is a was when i woke on the morning of october 30, 2012. and nothing will distract me from getting that job done. sis, comparing my prices to my competitors', so you know you're getting a good deal,

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martha: new jersey's lieutenant governor is denying the new allegations that came out against embattled governor chris christie. the mayor of hoboken claims her city was denied super storm seanldy redevelopment money unless she agreed top am redevelopment project. the lieutenant governor is

saying these allegations are false and they won't withstand scrutiny of the facts in this case. former mayor of new york city giuliani called this a witch hunt. he says the committee that is investigating the bridge closing has all but convicted the governor. >> when you announce before you investigate that you don't believe the subject of the investigation, the ultimate focus of the investigation it would seem to me he needs to step down. he announced he doesn't believe governor christie. we are joined by karl rove, form or senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to president bush. and scott brown.

former senator of massachusetts. i want to address and neighbor senator brown you can start with this, the comment by giuliani that he should not be leading the investigation because he already said he doesn't believe the governor on the bridge slain closure. >> i agree. when you have someone who is the former head of the democratic party and has been rumored to run for governor and wants to stick it to ought governor, it's inappropriate. every little thing the governor has done. every little thing the governor has done. as a governor you have to make tough decisions and balance the pros and cons of every decision. shell just keep digging and digging and keep him on the defense because he's a front runner for president. martha: we have this kim zimmer

spot to play for karl? >> i had to basically almost set aside what she said to me because it is unbelievable but it's true. it's true. and i'm coming forward and i just didn't -- i didn't feel that we were going to be able to get the funding. i was concerned people weren't going believe me. it's stunning. it's outrageous, but it's true and i stand by my word. martha: just to back up here. the charges that the lieutenant governor came to hoboken and told the mayor who you just suave on the screen there, in order to get the funding that she wanted after sandy, that they should move forward on the rockefeller project. that it was a big deal that was important to the governor and they should november forward. what say you? >> we had a denial from the

governor's office, too. the mayor's credibility is suspect. in august she tweeted we are very glad governor christie has been our governor. last week on television she categorically he need there is any link between these funds she was seek and the endorsement. we are talking about $100 million grant that she wants for flood development that comes out after special pot of federal money that's $400 million. there are more applications for this money than there is money. this is money that is not at at beck and call of the governor. the state as a role to play. but the decision will be made in washington, it will be made by the obama administration, not the christy administration.

so we'll see the facts roll out here. but we have two categorical denials. martha: hoboken got $70 million in andy relief funds. and from this was free vents of -- this was preventsive funds to help these cities the next time this would happen. it came down to them wanting a third of what was available. and that was one of the big issues that came up here. scott brown, what do you think about this whole thing? politically how is this looking for governor christie? >> obviously somebody in his

administration screwed up. he stood up and fired them. we need a neutral arbiter of facts to find out if there is anything more. if there is not, we should move on. when you compare it to what's happening in the obama administration, the benghazi, the irs, fast and furious. it pales in compare southern. yet they are working hard in new jersey and doing nothing in washington. it's laughable. martha: deb which -- debbie wasserman-shultz was at a fundraiser meeting lambasting him essentially. >> we can expect this. chris christy is the leader of field for 2016. democrats are looking at shim showing him ahead of or slightly

behind hillary clinton. they want to dust him up because of the actions of a couple of his staffers who acted inappropriately. we are a long way between now and 2016. further away from the george washington bridge you get the more people are looking at the points governor brown mention. governor christie stepped up and fired the people responsible. people are running up to me in airports and say he actually went to the communities and apologized to the mayor for having their community affected. bill: nfl championship sunday did not disappoints. broncos and patriots and peyton manning. he was near perfect sunday. 400 yards in the air. denver's defense shut down tom

brady and the patriots. he will anear his third super bowl, trying to win his second. now to the nfc where it came down to the final seconds late last night. watch. intercepted by malcolm smith. but richard sherman tipped that ball. the seahawks punching the deal. seahawks win it 23-17. so the super hawk set. broncos and seahawks february 2 in the meadowlands. moments after the nfc title gained'. sherman is interviewed live on this is what has people talking today. >> take me through it. >> that's the result you are going to get. don't you ever talk about me.

>> who was talking about me. >> don't you open your mouth. bill: he said quote there was a lot of talk before the game. now i'm the bad game? if you judge my character on the field, so many glass houses. the heat of the moment. 75,000 people around him screaming, going nuts. martha: what? nobody understood what he was talking about. obviously there was trash talk and he was upset about it. bill: they have media day, the wednesday before with the big game. and the quarterbacks always get a lot of attention. but richard sherman will be right behind the quarterback. martha: we are going talk about iran's nuclear deal that has been the source of such

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>> here we are years later and families have no clue to what happened to their families. and stop blaming the dead guy. chris stevens was in benghazi doing what america wanted hip to do, try to hold libya together.

bill: that was lindsey graham after the report said the benghazi attack could have been prevented. hillary clinton is said to be writing a book as a way to shoirp her legacy before the 201 elections. -- before the 2014 elections. i think this is fascinating. you are framing your legacy several years out when you are already getting pushback from the other side? what does it play now that this senate report is on the table? >> the most significant thing about the senate report is it was issuered in a bipartisan way. we have seen these charges before and confirmed these findings. it was a lack of security and the state department did not

authorize increased security in spite of the requests from ambassador stevens, particularly around the 9/11 date. what what he knew, and what he hadn't had was democrats joining republicans in this condemnation. hillary clinton who has had a long tenure in public life. many people would say a good one and historic one. her most inept decisions of her political career happened in the wake of benghazi. avoiding the news shows in the wake of benghazi and the shrill left money she gave before the that committee situation difference does it make. bill: democrats will try and paint her as a groundbreaking

female secretary of state. >> she is going have to make the case. when you look at the things right now that are being pointed to as her major accomplishment. one of the top ones they mention is the intervention in libya. i think that wasn't actually a great decision. i don't think it has gone that well, it's because of that intervention we had our am bass court in situation he was in. every time you ray libya the first name that will come up is benghazi. base you have this report that is bipartisan. i think most of the criticism, the most damning part was what was said about hillary clinton. she'll have to explain what happened there. it doesn't reflect very well on her. bill: i think what is potentially even more troubling is what fox news is reporting a week ago. the leaders evident pentagon, the day the attack they night

was terrorism within 15 minutes. we know that now. >> this story will metastasize the more hillary clinton stays in the public. when you put out a book about yourself you are telling one side of the story. the interesting difference will be if she makes any revelations into differences of policy with the administration in what is a failed middle east policy. libya, it extend to cairo where we abandoned mubarak, we now have the muslim brotherhood. our inept policy in syria. which bill clinton has been distancing hillary from. bill: what you both are laying out, that's an extensive record, kirsten. >> i have a certain perspective on obama's foreign policy that not all democrats share.

i don't think there is a lot to be proud of. so if that's what she is going to be running on, i think she has a tough sell. even looking at the things she says -- what did president obama say in that interview. she has the most frequent flyer miles and that makes her the best secretary of state? that's not an accomplishment. i'm hop to hearing what she has to say. but she was a little bit weighted down by a president with a bad foreign policy. bill: thank you to both of you have. i appreciate you coming in. martha: we could be in for a brutally cold sequel to the polar vortex. bill: find out who the chairman of the house intel committee who he says helped edward snowden. >> this is about a trend in the relationship between the got

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bill: there is something missing from the smps skyline. inflated for the final time. the roof will be cut up and recycled while the building is demolished. make room for the vyings brand-new billion dollar stadium around 2017. martha: there are several cold weather systems pushing across the midwest through the northeast the next few days. there is a winter storm watch in effect tonight up and count east coast expected to bring heavy

snow and frigid temperatures. it is january. meteorologist maria molina joins us from the fox center. hey, maria. >> we have a dip in the jonna -e have a dip in the jonna jetstre. now we are going to see a more powerful storm, an arctic front heading southward. in minneapolis. far dough, 21 degree below -- in fargo 21 degree below zero. raleigh the temperatures will make it down into the teens.

in chicago the temperature will be below zero. we do have a number of with warnings in tech due to dangerously cold winter temperatures. i showed you where the actual temperatures -- you have to factor in the wind and the withs are much colder than that. this arctic blast is going to be coming with a quick moving clipper system. by tuesday afternoon and evening, many areas are see that snow coming down, but we have winter storm watches in effect as much as 8 inches possible. back to you. bill: an american missionary being held in north korea. he's beg for help. martha: iran begins cutting back on their enrichment of uranium amidst growing criticism the

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>> fox news alert. opa historic day in the middle east today. the first time in nearly a decade iran is scaling back their nuclear program. brand new hour of america newsroom. >> the nuclear agency confirmed they are halting their sensitive work that is paving the way to the sanctions that could amount to billions. james rose is here. what can we say we believe is happen in iran that makes this day different than the others? >> good morning, bill. iran's state run news agency is announcing that the nuclear inspectors had started the

technical work of disabaling cascades. they certified they discontinued up to the 20% level and began diluting their stockpile of 20%. so many countries are party to the accord and that is why the president has a few democratic allies who oppose fresh sanctions while the deal is in progress. >> we have five plus countries working on this and people joining on the sanctions. they will say united states, you are on your own if they think we are pre-judging.

>> reporter: iran is receiving $4 billion in frozen funds. >> is the push on the hill dead? >> reporter: the most vocal democrats on this bill appear as you say to have exceeded to the pleas of secretary of state and other senior officials to give diplomacy a chance. a new bill sponsored by menendez was enough to override, but harry reid is bolal bolicing ba the vote. >> having the congressional action just offstage and in the wings might be a powerful negotiating tool. >> reporter: as the head of the

atomic agency in iran said the sanctions iceberg is melting. we have seen them wrapping up for increased oil and always fertilizer. >> what did it take to get to this point? back in september of 2013, president obama and the president of iran held the first direct talks between the u.s. and the iranian leaders since 1979. and the number of centrifuges increased. they brought in talks to

exchange curbs on the nuclear program for sanctions use and they agreed to limit their enrichment and open the program to daily inspection and that is what started today. there is stunning new developments in the nsa scandal. edward snowden likely had help from russia when gathering top secret information about the u.s. intelligence practices. >> i believe there is a reason we happened up in the loving arms in moscow. >> you think the russians helped edward snowden? >> i believe there was questions to be answered there. i don't think it is just luck he handled there. >> mike rogers comes from an intelligence background and we

have brit hume here. it is an interesting assessment by rogers. what do you make of it? >> it would explain a lot. here is a man who carried out a massive leak of information complaining the united states freedom is being curtailed and then goes to the least free places on earth and ending up in the hands of moscow. what i sense is probably the intelligence agencies have done a huge review of all of this and tried to reconstruct what happened and had to happen for a leak to occur and come to the conclusion that given edward snowden's skills as they knew them and his knowledge and

access that he could not have done it on his own. i don't know if this is true. but as i say it would explain a lot. >> if it is true it puts the president in a tight spot because he is doing his own nsa reforms and none of these would have happened if edward snowden had not brought this to light and pushed it out in the public. and then you have the potential of having to get into a conversation with russia about what they did to be behind this. >> i am not sure the conversation would yield much unless we were prepared to give them something in return. i am not the president of russia is worried about the disarray of the american nsa system. edward snowden who has done this

thing that is major damage to the u.s. intelligence interest is a hero in so many quarters including here in the united states where the military suspension runs high. he is a hero and a trader by others. >> if you move forward with the reforms and curb what the nsa can do based on the revelations edward snowden made it puts the president in a position where he might have the give him credit for bringing it forward. >> i would be surprised to hear the president say that. the steps the president took were the least he could have gotten away with given the political pressure to curb law scale snooping and wiretapping.

there is a paranoid thinking. i think the president did what he could to keep this meta data program up and running because the intelligence agencies believe it is useful and potentially more useful as time goes by. >> we will see you next time. thanks. breaking news from overseas. an american missionary is begging for help that is being held there. he hopes the united states will do everything they can to secure his release. why are we hearing from bay now? >> bay would never appear before cameras unless north korea wanted him there. analyst say this is north korea's way of reaching out to the united states hoping

washington will urge north korea to release him as they need foreign aid. under guard and wearing an inmates uniform bay said he had not been mistreated. >> i would like to request the american government once more. you have made a lot of effort, but i want to ask for direct assistance not with words but with action and solve my problem. >> no one should take bay's words at face value. he has been raced in south korea and moved to the united states at 18. he is charged with trying to overthrow the state and when captured he had starving children on his computer and christian readings >> he is not the first american to be detained there? >> they have detained 7

americans. they released a north korea war vet held for crimes during the 50s. newman said his video tape confession was made under them. and laura ling was released by the clinton administration. no reaction from the state department. back in august, the united states did try to send an envoy but north korea canceled the trips after we allegedly sent bombings. bay is in failing health. >> we need to get him home. >> the president is jumping head first into the debate over marijuana that is raging in the country. what he said about pot and

alcohol that is raising some eyebrows this morning. >> and growing anger over west virginia's decision to lift the ban on the tainted water. is it safe to drink? >> and new documents show the surveillance program provided a thousand tips a year but big questions about the overall effectiveness of the organization. >> this data was being stored under the nsa and warehoused under the government and this administration has trust issues. wow, this hotel is amazing. oh no. who are you? who are you? wrong answer. wait, daddy, this is blair, he booked this room i got everything i wanted. oh good i always do. oh good

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>> we have new developments in the chemical spill that left tap water unusable for hundreds of thousands in west virginia. the ban has been lifted after test saying the water is safe to drink and lose but some people are saying they are still

getting sick from drinking. >> this is straight from the tap and it smells like lick rch. >> they are not taking responsible for the damages it did to my daughter or anybody us. they are throwing us under the bus. >> more than 400 have been treated since the 9th of january. at least a 100 have been hospitalized. new details on the phone surveillance program of the nsa. the program provided one thousand terror tips a year to the fbi. but they don't describe the quality or how often investigations were launched. the documents were made public after the proposed changes presented by the president. >> i think there is a clear pattern with the domestic and

foreign piece. he is cutting back on capacity and putting administrative burdens could be risky but it looks like he is willing to accept the risk in order to preserve the program. >> jim walsh is here with us. welcome to the program. >> good to see you. >> there is a big debate going on. not only over the security issue, but the underlying and perhaps ultimately as important issue is whether or nut the program works. does the thousand tips convince you it is as a successful program? >> i think advocates are having

a poor discussion. it isn't enough to say there were tips. when we make claims about the nsa effectiveness which programs are we talking about? they all get lumped together. but that is not the right way. look at it program at a time is say if we didn't have the surveillance would we have caught the guy. in some cases it will be yes and presumably in others it will be yes. if we can stop them other ways it shouldn't be useful. we have to weigh the privacy and it isn't just privacy government abuse cost against the national security benefits. so far we have not done that. >> i mean we heard from the nsa that the they had 54 cases they

linked directly to this prison program or indirectly to. my analogy is if you had a stool and took one of the legs out would it stand at the end. that is the question. they have only introduced four cases that were linked to this program and in each case it is difficult to find the link some would argue. one man was a san diego man who was convicted of giving money to the people responsible for the kenyan mall attack. it was revealed there was nothing in here they couldn't have gotten a court order for the warrant. once you have information you

don't need the tap, you can get the warrant, correct? >> this is one of things that are happening at the same time. so you have nsa surveillance, but you have traditional info informants and tips from family members. so then you have some evidence that is had bases of a court order. and i think your right about this, martha. i am willing to assume some of the spying would be helpful in some instances. there is still the question, though, of how you weigh that against the cost. the second amendment is discussed and we weigh the cost and benefits there. and we have terrible things than happening with handgun violence but a lot of people say we need to stay where we are and we have a debate about that.

but the forth amendment all someone has to do and is whisper terrorism is everyone tosses up their hands. they are useful, but you have to talk about what are you will to weigh. and stopping one guy from sending a check to a terrorist group isn't enough on the balance of doing the other things >> there are three other cases and we can't get to them. but we have the underground subway bomber in new york which is said to be the most serious plot since 9-11 and raises a question everyone is thinking about at home. thank you, jim, for helping us flesh it out. a scene unfolding right now. check this out. [shooting sounds and cheering]

>> what is behind this ongoing protest and where they are happening is critical. >> and a spacecraft is trying to land on a comet. is that possible? the new mission that could make history.

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it took about three hours tout the tire fire out. no word on what caused the thing. another news alert. there is violence escalating in the ukraine. watch here. after the passage of new anti-protest law that is sparking wild clashes with the police and this is ongoing. greg has a close eye on this. what is the latest today? >> from the latest we are seeing and hearing the standoff continues after a violent night of clashes between police and demonstrators. dozens of officers were injured as they through rocks at the authority and they responded with tear gas and rubber bullets. this is in response to the bill

pass on protest. this is the latest in a dispute over the decision back in november to back off a plan to get closer with the european leader and strengthen ties with russia. there have been protest every since but few as violent as the ones overnight. >> what happens next? >> there is talk of talk. there was a meeting last night with one of the leaders of the protest, a former boxing champion, who met with the president. the president is saying he want to negotiate but there is no sign the president will budge or a sign the protesters will leave the streets. the white house overnight is calling for both sides to

de-escalate and a repeal of the anti-protest laws. one more head ache for the russian president. the olympics are about 800 miles away in neighboring russia. a rough neighborhood indeed. guns, marriage quality, drugs and taxes are hot button issues and we will talk about how these could affect 2016. >> and the landmark nuclear deal with iran is in affect, but it is too late to keep them from developing nuclear weapons? >> i want to plutone reactor displaced. i want them to be creating zero enrichment.

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>> services are underway in atlantic for martin luther king, jr. day. king and his family were pastors at the church. the vice president is among the speakers today. >> this is breaking news. the u.s. is saying the u.s. and their partners will follow

through in the commitment to provide sanctions to iran and that could be $$7 million. >> iran is parked about here. and the six month freezes them there and give us transparency. we have to crank them back. they are too close. they have to deconstruct stuff. >> we have a fox news national security analysts and former defense deputy. you say so far so good. >> this is the easy part. they freeze, we lift sanctions. the hard part is they rollback and release more sanctions. we have given up the main

negotiations and what incentive to they have to roll back? the reality is everybody is lining up to do business with iran. the stock market there is up 133%. european countries have started making deals. the russian said let's trade food for oil. so many are lined up and once the sanction window lifts it will flood through. >> and the leverage is gone. this is framewoom workers there saying the iceberg is melting. >> they know once the sanction are lifting the iceberg is lifting. their economy will boom. it will be the strongest economy in the middle east. they will be considered a de facto nuclear power.

they get so bar far, we want them to roll back, and the other countries in the region say they need nukes of their own. >> are you arguing is it too late for iran? >> i think the window is close. congress is saying if iran doesn't go through the rollback we will reimpose sanctions. i think that is a terrific opportunity for the administration to say you better rollback. but the administration is rel k relucktent. >> it was this easy it to

shutdown it down. it is that easy to start it back up. >> and that is what the negotiator said. we could turn that back on in 24 hours. we want sanction lifted and nukes dropped. if we don't get the deal american will have blessed a bad deal. >> israel is panicked over this. and you wonder what comes next? and i can't quite figure that out. does iran abide by this? does congress act? or has the whitehouse done a good job with the senators? >> the democratic senators are reflecting the middle east. it isn't just israel scratching their heads. it is all of the other allies in

the region. time will tell. i am not optimistic. but time will tell. the bad result is iran is the dominant alpha dog of the middle east. >> something to watch every day. >> you bet. key swing state is quickly becoming a hot bet for national issues. legalize marijuana, gun control, marriage equality, and taxes -- how all of these play out in colorado is being watched across the country. >> the other few reasons colorado is getting attention is that other states tend to follow the social issue trends that come out of here. there has been a backlash against what some considered extreme moves to the left.

>> we seem to have a place on the national radar screen about these issues. >> colorado is called the ultimate swing state with an electorate divided evenly. >> there is a strong independent-nes in the voters. >> reporter: they swung left in the recent years but in 2013, democrats pushed through gay civil union and mandtory green use and some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation. >> it is fractioned. >> reporter: for the first time in the history, two legislators were recalled. >> the organizers of the row calls were motivated by the gun issues. but the voters who turned out,

voted and through them out of office had more than gun issues on their mind. >> much of the year was divisive and there were arguments between rural and urban interest and battle between republicans and democrats. >> reporter: the governor said there are no plans for any new gun legislation this session, martha. >> interesting. thank you very much. the president is taking heat after comments he made about marijuana and alcohol. we will talk about that and let you know what he said. and there is this -- >> hut! hut! play action saved. >> how that won manning's charity tens of thousands of dollars. coming up. coming up. when you have diabetes like i do,

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>> manning is used to the word omaha and peyton decided to take advantage of this: >> listen to how quite the crowd is. omaha! >> omaha! >> you get the idea. he is saying omaha. every time he said that a group of companies in omaha donated $800 to his organization. he said it 31 times. that is $24, 800 dollars. nice cause and event. >> i think it could be confusing to players if it was meaning one play one week. so it must mean nothing.

>> i will say the reason we can hear that is because they were playing at home in denver where the crowd is quite when the offense is on the field. so it is easy for the mike to pick it up. it will not be that way in new york/new jersey. >> seattle has the loudest fans of all. >> president obama is jumping head first into the marijuana debate that is raging in the country after taking heat saying it is no more dangerous to smoke pot than drink alcohol. here is what he said in a long new yorker story. he said it has been well documented i smoked pot as a child not different than the cigarettes i spoked. i don't think it is more dangerous than alcohol. we have richard fowler here.

what do you think about the comments, richard? >> there is no medical evidence that says alcohol is more damaging than marijuana. one is legal and one isn't which is there the problem and that is the point the president is saying. they are both vices but some are legal and can are not. if we are picking winners and losers on the vice you chose. >> i find it surprising, michael graham, it is legal in two states now, but was for most of our lives, and was when he was a kid, but he doesn't say it was illegal. >> i want to celebrate the fact if you remember the bud bowl commercials and you will be having the first bud bowl as

they are heading to your town. and the same white house that is screaming put down the ice cream is telling me pick up a bong, what is the big deal? >> that is not what the president said. >> we should not have tell you to drink sodas or eating fatty foods but the pot smoking is up to you. and the more pot you more the more you want that food. >> it is confusing as a mom of three kids they are being told don't drink, don't smoke cigarette and might find it odd the president is saying you know, it should be legal, and it is okay just like alcohol. >> i don't think the president went that far and said we should legalize marijuana. i think what the president said in the article and very well put was let's see what these states

do and how it works. not legalizing it, the truth of the matter, and this is the only libbertbeerty vote in my body. >> but the reason he believes it should be legal and the experiments in washington and colorado are good ones is because he says minorities are incarcerated at an unfair rate. and that maybe true in thes, but maybe we should be discouraging it across the board and say there is a better way to make it in your future and take better care of your body. >> but those campaigns exist. >> go ahead, michael.

>> you both made good points. richard brought up the politics, there is a political aspect. the president knows he has a problem with young voters and they had we will use pot legalization as a way to get them to come back to the democratic party that have been separated by the obamacare and other policies. >> are they leaning toward being more open and looking the other way where these two states are concerned because thank you -- they think -- it will persuade voters? >> no. the argument is made on cost. you could save billions a, brin communities back together and

use the cessation programs. cigarettes are legal and alcohol is legal and horrible for your buddy. marijuana has medicinal use. >> the trend is going to making them more difficult for kids to get. cigarettes are more difficulty to get your hand on and so is alcohol. so why lean in the direction with the other thing? >> that is why the president is watching what happens in washington and colorado. how do we make the regulations so kids cannot get ahold of it? how much revenue and how we can regulate it is what people are watching. that is why it has been a slow move to legalize it. >> he said he told his daughters it isn't a good idea. a bad idea to spoke pot, a waste

of time, and isn't healthy. >> john scott is standing by. what are you cooking up? >> a six month deal with iran going into the affect as they will give up enrichment. does it give too much? we will get into that. and a page from the 2012 election strategy. and hilary clinton supporters are worried about her white house perspectives and if edward snowden had help and new concerns about security at the oly olympics. >> you have a lot to talk about, john. scientist are trying to learn to a space craft on a comet. how in the world do you pull this off? this off? farmer: hello, i'm an idaho potato farmer.

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deep space slumber and marks the spot of a mission to land on a comet if they can pull it off. it has never been done. this is three times in five days we have seen you! i was up late this morning watching football and you were up at 4 a.m. to watch this. what is phenomenal to me is this space craft has been out there for ten years and it is 500 million miles from earth. >> it is by the orbit of jupiter. there is not a lot of sunlight out there. but it is coming back in. it is on-target for the trip later this year. >> you are up at 4 o'clock to see if they woke it up, have they been able to >> they are waiting to hear from the space craft. it was supposed to switch on at 5 a.m. and it has to warm up. so it spends like five hours

warming up. it should have started looking for earth and preparing the signal. >> i read to get a message back it takes 45 minutes. >> and sending it back takes another hour. so they are hoping this alarm clockworked as plan so they will get on with this unprecedented -- clock worked -- >> will this work? >> they have done this kind of event before, but what is different is they will stop and orbit the comet and then harpoon it with a probe. >> it will tell a lot about the universe if they can pull it

out. is nasa doing anything on the pront? >> they are part of this. they have three instruments on board and a team of scientist work on it. they are looking at asteroids on their own. >> we need to get on it. unbelievable. another punch of winter weather is making its way east. some folks might want their snow shovels and boots out. it is coming our way. be right back.

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>> earlier in the show we talked about peyton manning how he keeps going, omaha, in the mid of the gail. we weren't sure what was significance for players. this is from jessica. she says the next word after omaha is a snap count. she knows. jessica knows. bill: they go on one or two? martha: could be saying

basketball. bill: i figure the folks in lincoln are ticked off. martha: you think? bill: not getting airtime. all about omaha. martha: see you guys tomorrow. bill later this afternoon. "happening now" starts right now. good buy, everybody. jenna: breaking news on today's top headlines and stories you will see here first. jon: republicans on capitol hill looking to shift the balance of power in the midterms. they may take a page from the democrat's playbook to do it. a double murder mystery in san diego with a new twist. another body turns up in the trunk of a missing family member's car. the material girl, never one to shy away from controversy but madonna is in full apology mode after racially charged comments about her own son. these stories and more all "happening now."