president obama apologize to americans who lost their health insurance? vote in our poll. and tomorrow night, a very special on the record from the capitol. tonight on "red eye." >> coming up on "red eye." is kenny g the best artist of all time? we'll show you what length some people are going to to be the firs in line to buy new albums. plus how much credit is the white house giving the british boy band one direction for reviving the economy? >> they are the reason why we have climbed out of the worst recession since the great depression. >> and finally snow men. super cool or super creepy? our panel debates in a can't miss four-hour debate next. none of these stories on "red eye" tonight. >> now let's welcome our guest. she is so hot she gives rugs lori rothman burns. i am here with lori rothman.

yeah, keep smiling even though you are hurting inside. his bobbies -- his hobbies include crying inside. he is harrier than a a bar of soap in a turkish bathhouse. he is the editor-in-chief of maxim magazine. you may have heard of it. and if genius was a mud mask i would go to bed every night with him on my face. pen gillette. you can see him in a premiere in new york city and l.a. and should have been nominated for an oscar and wasn't this friday. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. hey, greg, i can see you want a cigarette. you are already smoking. >> that's nice, mr. voice. should we go for gold or put the games on hold? the the chairman of the house homeland security committee says he is open to icing the winter olympics if the sochi

situation gets worse. they went to assess the threat. >> i don't think it is a time to be an alarmist and can sell. in this thing gets worse maybe we would consider that. i would say the security threat to this particular olympics are the greatest have i seen because of the proximity of the terrorists to the olympic village. >> well that is helpful. the state department warned athletes not to wear their uniforms outside the 1500 mile secure "ring of steel." that was my nickname in high school for tricks i did in the locker room. according to a memo by the "wall street journal" which is owned by our parent company dancing dudes in jock straps they will not be able to keep americans safe in the violent region. already adversaries are trying to breech this ring of steel. >> that's far enough.

>> i always enjoy that when they actually hurt the people filming. it is something i enjoy. penn, welcome to the show. >> nice to be here. >> always a pleasure. as usual you don't read the stories, but you always have an opinion which i like. it is idiotic to say we will can sell the games because of a threat. what say you? >> i have a bigger problem with the olympics. first of all to talk from my position of ignorance i never watched the olympics ever. but if we are competing country against country to see who has the best country, why don't we pick the people who are going to compete at random? we set up our training camps and set up our trainers and you get a lottery in the country and then you have like a -- we have a welder from minneapolis who is going to

try a ski jump. we have been training him for three weeks and he is going up against a yugoslavia guy who ran a pizza place. then you would have real danger and real excitement. the slalom would be one guy makes it all the way down. the idea that the best of us should compete is insane. >> and you figure skating. >> you could do that anyway if you play your cards right. >> i had that dream. >> that would test our training facilities, our training, how well our -- >> it is like the military. it is like a military draft. >> imagine the summer olympics with the high dive with people just up there going oh -- jumping off and that would be wonderful. >> you know what is great? i can steal this idea tomorrow for "the five" and no one will know.

>> the advantage of nobody righting the show? >> the right people watch tonight. this goes back to my belief that the olympics are selfish activities, lori. if you are going to spend nine hours a day doing one activity which is like pushing a round thing with a broom -- >> curling is the only one i like. >> why is that selfish? >> because your family has to put up with you and your curling. >> curling my hair is definitely torture. >> greg, isn't this show your curling dism. >> they get sponsors and there is a business side of it. it is a full time job these guys. >> couldn't they think of doning doning -- dodging bombs as an event? >> it would be part of the variables. >> the slolom. >> you have been on this show enough. >> i argue with him plenty.

>> what is the point? >> i try spread it around. the uniform situation is it prudent to not wear their uniform? >> are they allowed to wear the uniform inside the ring of steal? >> yes. >> the warning is don't go outside. >> you know what, people, there is no reason to go outside the ring of steel. what do you think is out there? stay in the ring of steel. it is nice in there. >> i will tell you i am a little bothered by not being able to wear whatever you want wherever you want, but that's because i am american. >> thases the p -- that's the point. >> it is not about the uniform. it is about what you represent. that is freedom and 24e are trying to scare you and it is wrong. >> and they are being successful. countries are saying don't do it. >> you said americans should wear france's uniforms when

they travel which is cowardly. >> cowardly, yes. gutless, yes. i think the uniforms are so ugly they shouldn't wear them inside the ring of steel. and by the way, ring of steel, how russian is that? inside the ring of steel nothing gets through. >> it is a travis stey. it is a hiewmg threat. it is a huge threat. >> would you prefer a ring of paper mache? >> don't you think part of this is tweaking putin? do you think mccall is out there going i have never seen a security situation this bad. it might be partially true. but part of it is also tweaking. >> it is not as good as twerking. >> we don't want anything to happen to anybody except the terrorists. >> and it is important to remember where there is a lot of countries where it is not

safe to advertise. we have the messiah as our president and they don't. they are jealous and they don't like us. >> if you leave the united states you deserve what you get. that's the ring of steal. >> in terms of like leaving the greatest place on earth? >> yes, it is true. we want everybody to be safe. i can't emphasize that enough. >> why do you hate americans? >> i only hate you, dan. you and your round head. >> they want to reveal those who conceal. a national newspaper chain wants to build state by state databases with the identities of concealed weapons permit holders. a topped for wrote in an internal e-mail they would examine the conceal and carry gun permits across the u.s. the company owns nearly a hundred publications and there are no plans to disclose the database. as the ohio-based buckeye

firearms association says -- who know what's side they are on -- they will not publish the list, but once it is compiled what are they going to do? exactly. what about concealed hedge hogs? >> that's cute. hedge hogs in trouble are cute. there is a whole website on that. >> we don't want them to get hurt. >> hedge hogs in trouble. >> there is a reality show. where am i here? guns. you were excited about this. you said good for the newspaper company. >> i said right on newspaper company. this is the problem. you have freedom of speech and

you add to that registration of things and then you will have this thing happen. what is stoping them from doing that? i tend not to be particularly a gun nut. but that being said why are you collecting all of this information if you are not going to use it? i always align myself -- what was the poughkeepsie firearms company? everything they say i am okay with. i don't know why you want the information if you are not going to use it. >> dan, i think this hurts nongun owners. it tells criminals these people are not armed and their homes are more amenable. i would like to be exposed for my gun ownership. >> as a father -- >> i love it when people start sentences like that. now they are more sensitive than you are. you are probably an awful sphear.

an awful father. >> i am here instead of caring for my children, that's obvious. i come across a lot of idiots in my life. sometimes it is nice to know hey that idiot might have a gun so maybe i don't want him to -- >> you assume every idiot has a gun and you will treat them better. >> they should have a about that? for editors with >> the problem is that whole armed society is a polite society. >> i was one of the people who iced the argument. i'm sorry as a father i shall not use it. >> the reason why the argument has one exception old cranky guy. everybody thinks of grand tau reno. it is not grand tau reno when there is an old guy with a gun.

lori, should we -- >> as a mother. >> as a mother who doesn't take care of her children. >> how paw -- how pathetic is that my one late night i spend with you? >> if you know to your argument if a household has weapons, maybe that is good information. but in that same vein you would want to know if they had steak knives and rat poisoning and all of these other things that could potentially harm your children. it is a total invasion of privacy and a bad idea. >> will this database affect you in anyway? >> i am still going to be at home with my 50 caliber aimed at the door. >> what? >> two p26's locked and loaded i'm telling people now -- >> by the way those are printouts of the guns.

>> are they? are you sure? do you want to knock on my door? are you sure? >> i believe in vegas which is another great way to start, but i believe in vegas no woman has ever been pros -- prosecuted for shooting a man on her property. >> that's true. i think that is true. and i am saying that without evidence. >> a lot of people -- well i can't back this up with stats. >> why not? >> some people who get gun permits or ycw per -- or ccw permits are stalkers. do you want them published if the stalkers can find them. >> you must have a crazy fan here and there. >> yes. >> what about the stalkers though? don't we deserve that information? what about us? >> i am moving on. it is like driving a car to disneyland and everybody is chatting. >> expru screaming at your

kids. >> are we going get there? >> we are almost there. it is a a wall meant to appall. students are celebrating the school's unity week by building a wall of hate a. it all ties together. students write words of hatred like insults and slurs. they are made into a wall and are torn down and replaced with a wall of love. the school says, quote, while hate does exist in the world we will not accept it and tearing down the wall we are tearing down the hate on our campus. >> whose idea is this? >> it is somebody who should not be in school, but they should be somewhere else. >> but it is always nice to write down hateful things. >> and then mail them

anonymously. >> oh no. they have a gun. >> this is what the president had to say. >> ♪ >> wow. >> chickens love their yodeling. >> every time i see a chicken i say why does anyone do comedy? you can't be funnier than a chicken. you take the best show you have done in your life and you put it up for four minutes and then another smokin monkey and a chicken and i defy anyone even in your family to look over at the screen and not laugh. there is nothing funnier than a chicken.

give up. >> let's go. let's head to the bar. here is a point. dan you run a magazine for young men and you experience hate every day being hairy and weird. isn't this solution based on something that doesn't exist the way they claim it does? most hate incidents are hoaxed. they are people that write the stuff down and are part of the activist group that are against it. they can't seem to find enough. >> but hate -- that isn't hate. every act of violence has hate behind it. the fact that there is a special magic hate. when you hurt someone else it is hate no matter what. if you write a word it is not hate. >> it is not harming anybody. but this is a feel good exercise. i am going back to dan. >> it is a feel good exercise? >> it is feel good. >> it per speech waits this

stuff. -- perpetuates this stuff. >> we are teaching people to hate the wall of hate. >> we are making fun of it because it is so corny. >> and it does president give you -- and it doesn't give you people -- it is like a thesaurus for words. >> you feel all self-conscious. >> what about the wall? >> what about the wall? >> the wall was there and a r it is like cool i'm a wall and then the next day it is knocked down. >> what if somebody arrives late and the wall of love is already up. just in case you think i say anything that pops into my idiot head there was a moment of self-sensorship. >> what is on your hate wall. >> i am curious what is hateful? >> i heard them sometimes.

>> have i a wall of hate -- i have a wall of hate in my apartment full of people i loathe with a pull up bar. >> like "cape fear"? >> if you go in that direction make sure you have the name of the movie on hand. >> i happen to believe that love crime is far more dangerous than hate crime. more people are killed in murder-sue sides. that is more dangerous than hate crimes. >> i think statistics are on on your side. that's a banner day. >> it is rare i am right by using this mouth. >> 32% of what you said though is not a statistic. >> and the kids don't build the wall. they build in a masonry company to build the wall. >> have them build something. >> it is big masonry or it is

masonries. >> mason reece i just saw him. he lives in hell's kif -- kitchen. why am i talking about mason reece? >> he is a great guy though. >> he has very soft hands. who knew? coming up, -- >> we all knew we had soft hands. >> i am going to skip this tease and go to the next one. and then i can use it tomorrow. what is left to say about the grammys that has bts already been sets. glu rg,glurg, glurg.

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dave. >> dave is what i would write on the wall. >> he hates people named dave. >> was the show a bore because of macklemore? he won best rap album and then after the show this seattle rapper sent an apologetic text to fellow nominee kendrick lamar. he said he felt he was robbed. great story and move on to the next crap. i can't believe that was our gist. taylor swift danced, and she danced -- there you go. she is is a great dancer. bottom line she danced a lot. >> she is having fun. >> are you in the front row. you don't tons. she said it is the sickest concert ever and she can't help but dance. >> and then the performances from beyonce and deaf punk and

many others, but one stood out. >> one of the greatest things i have ever seen. >> begin you wonder how did he get the horse to do that? >> i think the horse wanted to breathe. everything else is corked. >> he can do that for hours. lori, 33 gay and straight couples got married at the end. you said that made you throw up? >> oh stop. i actually turned to "downton abbey" by the team that came on. i watched the first couple hours, but -- it was nice. madonna ruined that part. that's what people were saying. >> i saw madonna. >> queen latifa was invested.

the power was invested with her. that was funny. >> she is a queen. >> dan, you were alarmed by taylor swift's dancing. >> i was. i have seen my mother bust funkier moves than that. my mom was a solid gold dancer. >> really? >> yes, she was amazing. >> as her son. >> as her son i can say that. the wedding was pretty good. i actually had a similar wedding. i had the fat boys officiate my wedding. vanilla ice raped over it. it was an amazing, amazing tribute. i thought the wedding was cool. maybe a little i'm person with all of those other people on tv, but there you go. >> i don't mind a social political message if they are not predictable. it always feels like all of these things are acceptable.

you are busting them for that. that's why 3:00 a.m. and i am sick of these people selling out and doing stuff. we won't be doing any of that. when i come on "red eye." i expect to hear nothing. >> horses play flutes with their nostrils. >> put that on your wall. >> that was taken out of context. >> the worst part a is the horse got robbed by best album by the raccoon on macklemore's head. >> andy, mclemore -- macklemore has become famous, but he is nuttier than a snickers bar. kendrick lamar should have won best rap album.

stay strong k-dot. >> are you so in the hood when you wear that v neck. you look like the guy -- >> that is sitting directly to his right? >> hip hop is not what is about out here? it is what is about out here. >> it is that part of the show , taylor swift having an orgasm playing the piano. we showed a clip. >> i want to go back to my point -- >> i think she was faking. >> i don't think so. >> i want to go back to my point, social messages in the entertainment world should not be easily ago at the present accepted. somebody should say buy more guns. god bless the nra. let's frack the dakotas. >> they are cheerleading. there is nothing wrong with that.

>> i know. i am not saying ban it. i am saying they are stupid. >> what are you not saying? you are not saying anything about mason reece anymore. >> i the one thing we learned, good message plus bad song equals bad song. >> tell that to bob dylan. >> i just said that because he was talking about bob dylan. >> you know who bob dylan's favorite politician was? >> barry gold water. he was a big freedom guy. he was for gay rights. jew a >> a lot of the freedom stuff. >> i don't like a lot of the freedom. >> once you are in the ring you can have all of the freedom you want. this is what i tell my house boys. get in the ring and you can do whatever you want.

outside the ripping you are dust. >> then you light the fire. >> and i dive into the ring. >> playing nothing but january knee cash. i burn into the burning ring of house boys. >> when we were done everything had a of fire. >> coming up, can humans fly? here is individual video oi shot last weekend. >> i don't know. i just me in the meeting. >> later, you won't believe what a kansas man saved from his burning home. or maybe you will. i don't know you.

you know why i enjoy pound cake? it is like a pound of each of the ingredients. i thought the density was like a pound. >> a pound, exactly. >> each one was a pound. >> is that remotely true? >> that's what you thought. does it make your wife happy when your work hours are

crappy? the key to a successful marriage is -- >> you are like nipsy russell. a lot of those rhymes. >> everything has to rhyme or -- >> we are out of time. >> anyway, marriage only works if the man works his fingers to the bone. researchers discovered when husbands put their sad and desperate noses to the grind stone their wives were healthier and had a better quality of life. longer hours meant better pay and that meant being able to afford help around the house and they can exercise and stay fit. >> where do you start making stuff up? is that real? >> now i lost my place. >> go back to the mayor of sochi joke. >> the mayor of sochi as you know in the olympics claims there are no gay people in sochi. i was wondering yew. -- why. he filleted all of the men there and the men he didn't he injected.

even the joke i ruined. >> totally worth it. >> god bless the mayor of sochi. based on your experience are you buying this study? >> it seems clear what is going on here. the less time a husband and wife spend together the happier and healthier they are. >> i think are you yawning. >> i don't think you can prove me wrong based on this study. your wife must be very, very healthy jie. she is very happy and very healthy. she plays golf most every day. she likes playing golf. she has a good time and she is very happy. they get to buy plastic garbage. that is a good substitute. >> in a way, the man builds a nest. these things are the nest and it makes us feel good. women like to have a nest.

>> all of the nests are built in china. >> and gave you lead poisoning. >> i don't know. this makes perfect sense. my husband has been telling me this study for years. it is an excuse not to come home. >> there is an important study and i am not coming home. >> it makes perfect sense to me. >> didn't mean to touch a raw nerve. >> i'm fine. >> at least there is foundation there. >> there is foundation. >> i hate studies that try to tell you what your lifestyle should look like. >> they are not really studies. there is no science. it is not done by science people. it is not from any place. all of this stuff that gives you this, it is small sample studies badly designed. it is an excuse for people like us -- >> part of the study i believe

, the opposite was true that if the man was home and his wife as out working men were not as healthy. think about it. the wife is out of the house and the kids are out of the house and sitting there and there is pornography on your computer, well, what else is there to do? that could be harmful. >> stay at home dads that is code for i watch lots of porn. >> everybody watches lots of porn. >> i prefer to call them "my stories." >> usually in real life they are tragic stories. >> even the three-minute clips of porno i fast-forward. i really do. even a three-minute clip never mind a 90-minute. three-minute and i fast-forward. do you do that too? >> i never watch porn. >> i just go to the very end

so i can experience the self-loathing. the ugliness inside of you saying this is energy used for something that could have been used somewhere else. >> i feel good about it. i don't have the self-loathing thing. different self. >> to each his own ?ie. a kansas man ran into his burning home to save his xbox. he woke up to find his house on fire and ran out before realizing he forgot his prize possession. he then dashed through the flames to save his games. his bravery is the subject of tonight's -- >> what would you say? >> welcome back to what you would save. it is the what you would save safety center. penn if you can peck one thing to save and you cabts say a -- can't say a person, what is the thing you would say. >> when he was asked this same

question if your house was on fire what would you save in -- save? i said the fire. i said go ahead and try. >> my wieners. my wiener dogs. >> have you dogs? >> two. kids, dogs husband, the whole thing. >> you are not a dog person? >> would you risk your life for your dog? >> yeah. >> you would risk your life for your dog? kill yourself now. just kill yourself. you would risk your life with your family loving you, you would risk your life for a couple of dogs? >> i knew i would step into that. >> just kill yourself. >> i would rescue my children first and foremost, but you said no people. >> you don't know what my dogs have done for me. >> you added in you would risk your life.

>> i did that. i added it. >> why do you think americans spend $65 billion on their pets. >> why are you celebrating it? i have nothing wrong with you loving your dogs and saving yes, sir dogs. the sentence that made me bug nuty was i would risk my life to save my doings. before that i was a regular panelist on a [bleep] show. >> your dogs, your children count on you. i don't have a mom anymore. why? >> she saved two wiener dogs. too bad they are dead. >> for all you know the kids love the dog more than her. you don't know. >> that's true.

>> i used to hate greg and i hate you. >> we don't know what dan would say. what would you save? >> the dog because i dog napped them. >> you would dog nap them and then save them. >> we have to go. we have to take a break. when we come back penn's new documentary. >> i would risk my life for. stick around.

whraw doing here is essential -- what you are doing here is essentially blending? >> yes, i am either darkening or lightening the paint that is already on the surface. >> you aren't tracing any lines because there are no lines. >> that's a characteristic that makes them unusual is that there weren't lines. there weren't any lines drawn

under the paint either. >> are you one hell of an interviewer there. >> if you want to watch paint dry -- >> let me explain what it is. it has been called "the godfather of painting" documentary. it is a film that follows one man's attempt to recreate the works of vermier. it was produced and mare rated by our -- narrated by our good friend penn gillette. >> a friend of mine came to me. have i been friends with him for years. he is an entrepreneur and flies helicopters and all of that. he told me he was going to build an exact copy of vermier's room he paibted in his warehouse in texas and without ever having oil painted before did a perfect vermier.

it could be a machine he could duplicate and then he would spend five years painting a vermier. he went to buckingham palace. we cover they had and it seems to be a movie people like a lot. >> is this almost like some comby in 2514 revealing how penn and teller did their tricks? >> almost exactly that. there is a photo istic quality the way the light goes across that nobody can explain. you can't see the light. it is actually done with mirrors. it is actually like the penn and teller show. watching tim tear down the whole side of a warehouse and build lay every chair from that time and put his daughter in head clamps so he can paint while she stays still.

then painting a vermier. >> how much could he sell it for? >> i got a phone call from jack white and from david copperfield. they both said they would like to bid on the painting tim did. i have two people that want to buy this. he said i would never sell it no matter what. how much. >> throw me in the list. i start with 30 -- 30 bucks. >> i think jack just beat you. >> he is not much of a musician. >> i will go $32.50. bit coin. >> oh, $32.50 bit coin? so road two. do you have bit coin? >> we will talk later.

>> i like bit coin. >> not nominated for an oscar. >> when we were on the short list it was an honor to be honored to be nominated. we are still up for a bafta which is the academy awards of evening land. over there they call it the bafta of america. >> how do you feel about documentaries in general? we have had this conversation. >> a documentary can never, ever represent truth. the weird thing is we covered everything as it was going on. there are no flash backs orie creations. now with technology we have on most brush strokes nine cameras. there is not a time he touches the canvas that is not covered by three canvas. >> are you not kidding about

watching paibt dry. people stay liking it and you are really watching a guy paint. >> have i to go after this question, but thoughts on "super size me"? >> i have been told by friends of mine, science guys, that the mathematics don't work out. didn't you do it? >> i did a similar thing for men's health in 1996 and i lost weight. i don't understand how it work. >> supposedly the arithmetic in and the results on you cannot be true. i just heard that from somebody. i didn't do the arithmetic myself. i haven't seen the movie. >> i love mcdonalds. who can't love mcdonalds? a question for the ages. >> why do i bother? >> you know why?

these other shows on tv are just trying to give people what they like. you will never, ever tune into red eye for something you want to see. that's the problem we give on you this show.

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tomorrow. we are bumped for the state of the union address. a new "red eye" with jedediah bila. >> e block. last story. that's the last story. >> all right. an opera singer claims her career might be over because she is unable to sing without farting. >> good night. >> that's all you need to say. the poor lady is in the hospital in kentucky over allegedly botching a surgery that took place while she was giving birth. as a result of her excessive flatulence she has been unable to work as an opera singer. penn you worked in vegas. shouldn't she embrace this? she is an opera singer with a bonus. we talked about a guy who was able to farther.

able to fart. i mine, this is a delicate question, but how close is the audience? >> that's true. you can actually pay more to get closer. >> this could be solved with ventilation. and opera singers sing really, really loud. it is not like you are listening to a mumbling quiet folk singer. >> she would be singing and it would be like she is accompanying herself with a horn of the. >> get the guy with the flute and the horse. i bet that was a skill that would transfer directly to that. >> that's the only opera i would pay to see. >> i am sad she is injured in some kind of way. >> this is a story based on opera and fartherring. >> it is based on classical

gas. >> you go there and go i didn't really like it that much. the recorder amused me. >> in all seriousness it is a common procedure after you have had a baby. >> i think she does have a case. >> it is a huge case. >> we hope she gets better. >> we hope she gets better so she can continue with her career. as funny as you think it is opera singing with fat. >> we are not laughing at the surgery. we are laughing at the farting. we are men and farting makes us laugh. >> what would she write on the wall of hate when her iron is compromised. >> makes all of these noises when he plays the piano squeals, squeaks and she should embrace this.

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hello, everyone. i'll greg gutfield along can kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, and dana perino. this is "the five." our sorry state of the union calls for a state of eneebriation. here's a drinking game for the president's address tomorrow. every time he says folks, drink. every time he says fair share, drink. every time he says extraordinary, drink. every time he brags about working tirelessly, drink. when he frets about lack of compromise, drink. when he says bring me a bill and i'll sign it, drink. when he brings up the dd