can happen. we'll do the taped interview, he has been kind enough to grant us the time. so we'll have more on that. i'm bill o'reilly, please remember, the spin stops here because we're definitely looking out for you. i'm megyn kelly, live in new york city. and tonight, backlash over an offensive tweet from msnbc. the network backing down after suggesting conservatives are all racist. but is the damage done? on the political fallout and social media explosion over thi this. we'll investigate the real story behind the new documentary about anita hill and clarence thomas, why now? and then. >> to deny that you're a man who wants to redistribute wealth?

you deny it? >> absolutely. >> and it is o'reilly and president obama round three, he joins us with what he is planning to talk about with president obama. and earning extra money selling cup cakes. so why did the government shut her down? she is here. breaking tonight, new fallout in a fierce debate after a major media outlet suggests that americans with conservative principles are all likely racist. welcome to "the kelly file," everyone, i'm megyn kelly. this latest incident was suddenly motivated by this touching commercial about che cheerios. >> hey, gracy, you know how your family has daddy and mommy and me? pretty soon, you're going to have a baby brother. >> and? a puppy. >> in response to that ad, msnbc

tweeted this last night. quote, many the right wing will hate it but everyone else will go oh, the adorable new cheerios ad with the biracial family. well, that ridiculous response evoked thoughts from across the country. michelle tweeted out. hey, msnbc jerks, this is my biracial family, we love cheerios, enough of your racial crap. and michelle caused others to tweet back, and that sent off a firestorm, stop the hate, and diversity, in people's political views. and this, i love hash tag my right wing biracial family, in just hours, hundreds like that went out. the cable took the tweet down eventually. but it was not over.

the republican national committee demanded a formal apology and threatened to boycott the network. the president of msnbc wrote "the tweet was outrageous and unacceptable. we have dismissed the person responsible for the tweet." now, however, there are suggestions that this controversy is part of a larger then and the narrative. one tied to our national politics and one that goes well beyond a cable channel. and tonight, we have joe trippi, a fox news contributor and a couple of other special guests we'll bring out later. we'll start with mr. bizzel, good to see you. >> hi, megyn. >> this is what they tweeted after, after it must be said michelle started the firestorm by calling people's attention to this on line that she started. so she amped up the pressure,

and regular americans amped up the pressure, and they said that is not who we are at msnbc, your thoughts. >> well, it is who they are, it is nice phil griffin finally apologized for something, and that is good. it is not that it is unacceptab unacceptable, it is acceptable. and that is a problem. this network has a scurrilous attack against a conservative every week. if phil griffin is going to apologize he has to apologize for every single major figure on msnbc that has done things like calling mitt romney the kkk, accusing him of being associated with the grand wizards. ed schultz calling laura ing ingraham a slut, and they suggested somebody put a pellet in rush limbaugh's head and blow it off. martin bashir, who suggested in

a produced piece on msnbc that someone should defecate in sarah palin's mouth. it took him 19 days to resign. and phil griffin, the same day he apologized, praised him when he resigned. >> the interesting thing is they came out and said they fired the tweeter, suggesting that this tweeter is sort of a rogue employee. but then to be honest, brent, i don't watch that channel, i don't have time. i have three kids. but in any event it was called to my attention that chris matthews has gone through a litany of similar comments that some of them have said over there. you mentioned martin bashir, and serious allegations. that is how he responded when

chris christie hugged the president. it was a physical rejection of barack obama as president. he said i have to believe it is ethnic with these people who criticize the people. he said that the opposition to obamacare, tom coburn's objection, look at the pattern, on and on it goes, he is not fired. he is an on-air host. >> i am glad you bring it up. it is the m.o. of that network, over and over and over again, they accuse republicans and conservatives of being racists because they may oppose barack obama's politics, the only thing worse than racism is the false charge of racism.

i don't really accept that apology because you have a network that is dedicated to character assassination. >> not every host there is that way. but some of the more prominent ones are, and the question is what is going to be done about it now that it is reaching critical mass, brent, good to see you. >> thank you, megyn. >> well, the social media response to this was intense, and taking twitter by storm, one of the ones that got our attention was simple and short. from nicholas bailey, writing my right wing family brought to you, hash tag, i can jump in with my gorgeous wife. with a snipe, nicholas and crystal bailey. good to see you both, the comments and tweet sent out by msnbc, and the apology stating that is not who we are. >> well, megyn, this is what the

they essentially call half of america racist, and then expect not to be called on it. like we stood up as americans and said that we're not racist. and as far as the apology, i feel like that was msnbc just saving face. if a hand has gangrene and you cut off a pinky, the hand still has gangrene, that is my take on it. and nicholas, i know you have conservative leanings. do you feel that that is not an acceptable position to many on the left? because we'll come up a little later with a discussion on the show about clarence thomas. they're releasing a new anita hill movie 20 years after the attack. at the time he went through this, he said it is a lynching because they don't agree with my policies. >> the left, they pride

themselves on having a voting group of blacks. i was actually raised liberal, and once i got to college i was able to navigate my way out that and found out that the conservative principles aligned with my values. i was the one that made it. it was a natural transition for me. people have avenues where they can find out more information about conservative principles. that is like whathouse is doing down there in atlanta. >> and chris, the left, many of the left pride themselves of being acceptable on many many things of people being different, certainly have interracial marriage, one of the things they are accepting of. and interracial marriage where one is conservative and one not in general, what are your

thoughts? >> their tolerance definitely comes into question. i think with the tweet they thought maybe it could be swept under the rug, that maybe they wouldn't notice it, that we were not offended. we were offended in different ways, we're newlyweds, newly married. soon we'll bring a family into this world. and i just feel like we're already fighting so many stigmas, that fighting a stigma of being a biracial couple, a conservative couple, that is doesn't exist. and we're here, i don't want to bring kids into it to where they feel like they're fighting the same stigma. so if we can stop this now, that is what we want to do. >> the message in the tweet was all the right-wingers in the country are going to be looking disapprovingly to this type of family, which is why so many people got outraged by this message. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. also with us, joe trippi, a

fox news contributor, joe, what is your thought on this? we're generalizing, not all the left agrees with this kind of thinking and this tweet. and these messages. >> no, not at all. in fact, you know, what would have been good is that you see someone on the left denouncing this and joining in on some of that tweeting. this is just not -- there is nothing you -- everything brent said was true. none of those things are things that they should have said. and this clearly was a huge -- i mean, just a huge brain-headed, stupid thing to do. >> but where does it come from? because you heard me asking the earlier guests, is it that some liberals are so accepting of anyone who is different, accepting the difference of conservative principles? >> i really don't know where it comes from. part of this is i think -- i look at whoever tweeted that

thing. and i sometimes think well gosh, could i do something that stupid some day? i mean, i tweet all the time. and i know a majority of viewers think everything i tweet is stupid. but i mean, i just don't understand how you can even let that tweet go. the person who sent it, it was just abhorrent, i don't know where it comes from. and they have had many of these problems here at msnbc -- >> but it is beyond msnbc. we decided -- >> it is not the left. >> but the knee jerk instinct to accuse conservatives of racism. they saw this ad, and they said oh, the conservatives will hate it because it is a black man and a white woman together in a family. >> look, i think there are people on both sides who do that. i mean, you know real extreme

activists will do things like that. everything i say, i'm a socialist. everything a right winger says, they're a racist or they don't care or you know, they have got theirs and they don't want anybody to have theirs. i'm not one of those people, i'm just saying our problem today is there is such polarization and really hate-filled stuff, small elements on both sides. but it comes into the frame when it shows up on a network like this. that starts to be very worrisome, but beyond that, what i thought the internet and social media was going to do was bring more people together. it seems to have helped the polarization in a lot of ways. >> i know i said this, i go on twitter and twitter is mean, they need to do something to fix the filter, and actually that is true over at msnbc, as well.

joe, thank you. >> thanks, megyn. taking your thoughts on it. follow me on twitter, @megynkelly. i'm never mean, you only see nice things come out of my twitter account. also today we're getting information on the immigration system, including the pathway to citizenship for some illegal immigrants. chris stirewalt, host of fox live, are they on board? is immigration reform about to become a reality in this country? >> well, i don't know if we ought to get all the way down that path yet. because remember, this is not a bill. this is a statement of principles. and these are general ideas that the republicans in the house think or the majority of republicans in the house think ought to be in immigration legislation. and the reason it probably is not going anywhere, especially in the united states senate is the first one, and the first one

says don't do anything until everything is secured internally and on the border. that is a no-go with democrats in the senate. there is no chance of them accepting the enforcement first. so this looks like this is not going to be any kind of a law any time soon. >> okay, but then why do you have people like ann coulter, where this is one of her top issues? predicting doom and destruction for the republican party as a result of these shifts we're seeing now on capitol hill? >> so we talk a lot about the executive authority wielded by president obama. and that is part of this story. the president has threatened the business community in the united states that if they can't force their allies and the republicans they support to advance what democrats call comprehensive immigration legislation that the president will use his executive authority to start to squeeze big employers on immigration issues that could be costly and

disruptive. they are then getting the squeeze, for fear the president will crack down on them -- but are you saying -- ann is concerned about many things and speaks for many conservatives in the you know, sort of wing of the republican party. they talks about democrats voting democrat. and they do that not because immigration issues but because they see the world in the way that liberals and democrats see the world. and she thinks if we create a path to legalization for illegal immigrants this will be the downfall of the republican party. do you believe that is actually what is happening, a path to legalization courtesy of the immigration? >> the republicans look about five minutes away sometimes from downfall, but sometimes they do tend to win. this is back to the establishment of the republican

party, versus the populist part of the establishment. the tea party kind of folks, they need the big business money, big business needs to keep barack obama off their back. i think this is about following the money into the elections. >> uh-huh. so it is sort of circling the wagons to keep everybody happy and then nothing gets done. >> you got it. >> chris, great to see you. coming up, kids in one school served lunch only to have it taken away right in front of them and thrown out minutes later. and wait until you hear the bone-headed reason why. plus? president obama got reelected declaring al-qaeda is on the run. so why did the director of national intelligence just say this? >> i can't say that you know, the threat is any less. >> ambassador john bolton has the story. plus, the president and bill o'reilly.

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. well, a big headline from washington getting a new look tonight. america's intelligence chief yesterday told congress he can't really say if we are any safer today than the year we suffered our first terrorist attack. here is james clapper on capitol hill. >> the probability of attack now compared to 2001 is -- at least for me, is a very hard question to answer. al-qaeda core, now we are facing

a much more dispersed threat. so i can't say that the -- you know, the threat is any less. >> tom bolton, the former u.s. ambassador to the united nations and a fox news contributor. i thought al-qaeda was on the run. >> this is a stunning statement by james clapper. you can't underline it enough. osama bin laden is dead and al-qaeda is on the run and he says it is the same ten years after, more than ten years after 9/11. clapper is right, the president is wrong, that is why this is so stunning. this is a repudiation of the obama administration, by his own director. >> this is what barack obama used to get himself reelected. osama bin laden is dead and al-qaeda is on the run. and even recently when he sat down with "the new yorker" and asked about the splinter groups as off shoots, he describes them

as jv. and now mr. clapper says the threat is as great as it ever was. >> the obama administration tried to define the meaning of terrorism less. al-qaeda has never been a government bureaucracy, they don't hang organizational charts on the cave walls in waziristan. it operates through affiliated groups. there is simply no question empirically, that the al-qaeda/terrorist groups have grown. so clapper is actually understating the seriousness, in my opinion. perhaps not as capable as the 9/11 attack here. but remember, they are in control where the radicals live. the attack on us was part of a broader strategy. >> when the president was talking about jv, he talked about whether or not there would be an attack on the homeland by

the splinter groups. and clapper was talking about that, the homeland security, and said we couldn't tell if we were any safer now. do you believe right now -- you know, forget what either of these guys say. what do you believe in terms of the likelihood of the attack on the homeland today? >> well, i think it is higher than it was in several years because the accumulated mass of al-qaeda has been growing. but i think if anything they are now more concentrated on the region where they live. and they are succeeding in breaking states apart. libya, syria, yemen, somalia, that gives every prospect for base camps when we leave that will be a greater threat to us in the future. on another page, the subject of iran, andrea mitchell is a chief correspondent for nbc news. she describes herself as an expert in international security, also in women.

i don't know what that means. the next time i have a women's issue i'm going to call her up. in any event she came out and suggested that iran was our ally until president george w. bush included him in the axis of evil in his state of the union address in 2002. >> it is thoroughly silly. there was cooperation with iran on the subject of afghanistan after we overthrew the taliban, because we wanted to bring stability there. we didn't want to see the very large persian and ethnic group in iran. let's be clear, iran was still on the list of state sponsors of terrorism. iran was still the second most heavily sanctioned country in the world by the united states after only north korea. we knew we were pursuing nuclear weapons. they were on our list of things

to deal with when 9/11 happened. so the notion that we were somehow in any sense an ally of iran is just flatly wrong. h calling them the axis of evil, destroying the relationship, is silly. >> she says they were more or less an ally. >> i guess with the equivocation -- >> it is less. ambassador, good to see you. >> good to see. coming up, a hard-working girl gets a painful history in working lessons. and got a little too much attention from the local authorities. plus, a new documentary on anita hill. some believes there is more than meets the eye here, and we'll tell you what may be behind the timing of this release.

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tonight, we have the new details of a documentary set for march. the subject is anita hill and her claims of sexual harassment against the nominated justice, clarence thomas, and there are allegations that the timing may involve something more. here is a brief clip. >> i have statements from people who know her that say watch out. >> it didn't occur to her that an opposition campaign would be waged. >> bomb threats to my house. sexual violence. >> why would someone make up this story? >> this was not about the truth. they were humiliating her. >> this is a circus. >> a high tech lynching for blacks. >> they appear to go going after a black man who said i didn't do it. >> joining me now, ebony

williams, a political analyst and trial attorney. let me start with you, it has been 23 years and justice thomas has been sitting on the bench doing his job. why now? >> it is very interesting timing indeed, megyn, i think i was in sixth or seventh grade when it happened. and it keeps popping up. and it seems to be when the left wants to have a card in their war on women deck. the only reason i think it is being waged. this is not a documentary, this is let's go after and bash clarence thomas all over again and ignore the facts again, and gear up for 2016. i think they're doing it to wage their war on women. >> earlier, she said she believes that the left resorts to sort of false mantras about

racism or what have you when they feel -- when they feel desperate or cornered, when their policies are being rejected. is that what this movie is about? >> no, megyn, it is not. actually, i think even that suggestion that this movie is about anything other than highlighting the very serious nature of a real problem in america, that being sexual harassment. i think it undermines the importance of this film. we know it is an ongoing issue, look at former mayor bill filner. we know it is happening even 23 years later. the point of the film is not a left-wing agenda pushing. >> why didn't they make the film about the san diego mayor then? because the question about whether there was any actual sexual harassment of anita hill by clarence thomas is very much unresolved. >> it is, megyn, this is not about clarence thomas or justice thomas this is about the back

lash that women receive when they come forward with these allegations. >> then my question, why not choose a case where we have a confirmed -- i'm not making a judgment call. but it is very unsettled to put it charitably, as to whether or not there was sexual harassment. >> i wonder why there was not backlash -- bill clinton was accused of it numerous times, kathleen wiley didn't even want to talk about the situation with bill clinton, yet she was so attacked by the left, they do worse to her than anybody else. >> anita hill was subpoenaed to testify at that hearing. just so the viewers know, the confirmation hearing was closed and then somebody leaked an fbi report to the press about anita's allegations, which were never brought in a court of law,

it was just stuff that she said happened in a room that he denied. and other senators and lawmakers came out and said reopen the confirmation hearings which they were forced to do to vet these claims which were not supported. and in which clarence thomas responded to in part as follows, listen here. >> this is a circus. it is a national disgrace. and from my standpoint, as a black american, as far as i'm concerned it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks. >> ebony, your thoughts. >> yeah, also as a black american, i don't care if you're from the left or right, as a woman, i want to see bill clinton or justice thomas who is accused to be thoroughlying investigated. you're right, it is undocumented, but the women who have to deal with the back lash

feed in the media or otherwise, that is a conversation worth having. >> listen, there is no question that that situation started conversations. it had never been drawn to it in that way before. we think about it differently, that is not to offer value donation of -- validation of her claims. and getting national attention at a salt lake city elementary school, they took lunches away from young children who didn't have enough money in their accounts and threw it in the garbage. you can't make it up, trace gallagher. >> even has state lawmakers in utah up in arms of accusing the school of publicly shaming the kids. the school said on monday and tuesday they started calling the parents, letting them know their kids' lunch accounts had a negative or zero balance.

the way it works in the school the kids get in line, check out the computer. when they found out there was a zero balance the monitor walked up to the kids and took away each of their lunch. we're talking about 40 students. and because they're not allowed to give them to the other kids they threw the lunches in the garbage. and as you can imagine, the parents were furious. >> it is anger -- it is ridiculous, i don't think any child should have to feel like that over a two dollar lunch balance. >> unfortunately, my daughter called me and said she couldn't eat lunch over four dollars, i was never even notified she was in the negative. >> the kids who lost their lunch were given a piece of fruit or milk. first, the school said the parents needed to be accountable. the school realized that it failed to notify many of the parents about their child's lunch balance. the school then went into full-blown apology mode, writing

this, quoting, we understand the feelings of upset parents saying this is an embarrassing and humiliating situation, we will ensure the students are never treated this way again. they have had donations coming in the school all day today. one student who didn't have her lunch taken away was so embarrassed for her friends she went home and made lunches for all of them and brought the lunching back. >> unbelievable, trace, thank you. >> yep. well, it is o'reilly and president obama round three. and just ahead you will get a sneak peek at what bill is planning. >> there is a firm hand shake, and like a boxing match. that is exactly the way it is when a man interviews an alpha. it is a boxing match. okay you look at them and go honestly, i'm a little old fashioned.

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well, tonight, a preview of bill o'reilly's upcoming super bowl interview with president obama this sunday. earlier i spoke with mr. bill, host of "the factor." >> yeah, you were just on my program. >> this is so weird. >> this is strange. >> i'm still sitting on your set, but now i'm interviewing you, and you're the interviewee. >> be gentle. >> all right, even for you, mr. bill o'reilly, it is a big deal. are you a little nervous? >> no. >> come on. >> why? >> sometimes i see you going out on letterman, i know, i see just a hint of nerves. so i can't even imagine -- >> you're probably seeing indigestion, i'm not a nervous guy. i don't care, that is why i am not nervous. i don't care. i know what i want to do and i

know the questions i'm going to ask. not all of them. still formulate, okay? but i know where i want to go. the difficulty is time. >> how many minutes you get? >> i don't know exactly, but i have to deal with fox sports and the white house and a lot of things i can't control. this program that i deal with, on the factor, i can control. >> he is not going to come here in the factor studios. >> no, no, he is not a bad guy, i think people misread him. however, my interview is going to be precise. >> you did a little philosophy -- >> he has a five-year record and i want to clear up a lot of things confusing. i will probably be able to clear up three in the time i have. remember there will be a taped interview afterward that we'll show on monday's "factor." no, nervous impedes my ability. >> well, it impedes everybody's ability. but sometimes we can't help it. like before i come on "the

factor". >> but you're an emotional mess, i'm a rock. >> where does it take place? >> you know whatever he wants, the red room, the green room. >> always the lesser being walks in first, that is me. that is me. >> interesting, because on your show, you walk in first, i walk in second. >> the lesser being -- >> so put down your pen, there is a power brokerage thing that happens in the hand shake. but men tend to do like -- >> no, no grabbing -- i'm not a grabber or a hugger, as you know. i don't grab or hug. a firm hand shake, there is eye contact, and it is like a boxing match. when the two boxers go into the center of the ring, that is exactly the way it is when an alpha interviews an alpha. it is a boxing match, okay, you look at them and go okay the bell is going to ring, it's on. >> how do you stop them from

going on -- >> i will interrupt the president, i did last time and i will again if i have to. but my questions are going to be so direct this time that i am hoping i don't have to do that. >> but you know he likes to start back and give you a little history. >> no, no, no, these questions are not going to be starting anywhere. it is going to be this happened. and i'll tell you what happened so the audience knows, what did you do? not what did you think? how did you feel? not any of the barbara walters claims -- >> you know there are people writing to the president saying how to handle you, that he should flatter you, because you respond to flattery -- >> that comes from an avowed far left. >> i don't think you have ever flattered me in your life. >> depends on what angle i'm pushing. >> what separates me from a lot of other human beings, i really don't care about that external

stuff. >> do you want to be liked by the president? >> no, why would i want to be liked by the president? >> because you meet him in person, i don't care who you are, the politics, it is the president of the united states. >> i want him to respect the work that we do, but no one likes me, why should he be different? >> all right, when can they tune in and see it exactly? >> 4:30 ow-- 4:30, 4:33, dependg on the bloviating in there, i think it will be fascinating, i do, i know what i want to ask him about, i do. >> and the best part will be 9:00 p.m. on monday night when it is over and we get to come on. >> and you will scorch me. and there will be one question from a "factor" viewer, and it is really a good president. i'll mention the name to the

president. no hints, tomorrow morning on friday's "factor" we'll read a bunch of questions we think are good, and we'll select them. >> looking forward to it, bill. all right. two alphas. i'm going to think about that every thursday from now on when i'm on that show. and up next, a young girl with big dreams joins us with the story of what happened when the bureaucrats went after her cup cake business. plus, coming up on "hannity." put a mark on it, there you go, that is a good one, go across. there you go. away from your body a little bit. better. better, you snap it i need proof of insurance. that's my geico digital insurance id card - gots all my pertinents on it and such. works for me. turn to the camera. ah, actually i think my eyes might ha... next! digital insurance id cards. just a tap away on the geico app. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.

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>> now the story of an st 11-year-old girl getting a tough lesson in government bureaucracy after the local paper does a feature on how her couple of i cupcake business hasn become so successful. chloe sterling and her mother heather join me now. good to see you, chloe.ns you decide to sell cupcakes forp $2 a cupcake. why in. >> iu decided to sell them because i took one class at michael's, and after that one class i started making them,ed m because i loved doing it.it >> heather, you offered her an incentive for the money she earned. tell us. >> i i did. she's a pretty good saver. goo i told her if she saved her all her money, whatever she had at 16, me and her dad would match for buying a car. >> she was pretty good selling, as i understand. yeah. she gets a lot of kid birthdays, things like that, lots of peopls definitely call her and want her to make their cake, or cupcakes.

>> you must have started to get a little nervous. >> actually i didn't. it was -- it never even crossedd my mind that this would be an issue. >> no, i just meant in terms of your promise to match. >> oh, yes. >> chloe, the local paper wants to celebrate your success, we'll put you on the front page of th paper, we'll do a feature about you, and the next thing you know, chloe, what were you told? >> well, the next thing i was told was that my mom had gotten a call from the health department saying that ire wasnt allowed to bake and sell anywas more because i didn't have adepa business license or a certified kitchen to bake in.t >> megyn: i know you're only 11, chloe, but what was your reaction to that? >> well, i was kind of bummed that i couldn't bake anymore, that i had to cancel all my orders from the article. so i was kind of upset about iti but i wasn't really mad. >> megyn: very mature.i heather, they told you what?

you had to do what if chloe wanted to continue selling the cupcakes? >> she had couple options. one was for me to buy her a bakery, or i could -- i could build a second kitchen in my home for her to work from. b >> megyn: sure. >> neither of those are viable options for us.wo >> megyn: right. what a shock. chloe, what's the plan now? are you going to have to shutc down, hon? >> i'm not sure if i'm going to have to shut down for good, or, just wait a while, but we're trying to figure out a way that i can follow all the rules andig still get to bake and sell stuff. >> megyn: god love you, hon. the department of health says the rules are the rules, it's for the protection of the public health. >> yes. >> megyn: ladies, a pleasure toa know you.l thanks for coming on your with your story. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> megyn: sad comment on which the world we now live, and thee, lawyers who a make the public

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>> megyn: this time tomorrow night we will be live in times square for our broadcast. tune in ats 9:00 p.m. coming up next on "hannity," reince priebus, red of the rnc, he's not happy with that other network. have a great night, everybody. z. >> sean: tonight we're in theani heart of time conveyor? the fox broadcast tower. we have a jam-packed edition of the show. america, are you ready to roll? let's roll.f >> sean hannity says as soon aso i can get out, i'm leaving. >> jon stewart begging little old me to stay in new york. ♪ >> sean: the question is, willyk i, should i? >> sean hannity is disg