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10,000 pounds of pork products grilled for 11,000 babyingon fans. john and i are taking the show there next year. >> it is bacon fest. nblt's for everybody today. >> got to be here. >> thanks for joining us. >> america's news headquarters starts right now. thanks guys, there is a bomb new cvo report that finds that obama care will be much worse for the economy than previously predicted. >> i am bill hemmer. the affects over the next decade will be substantially larger and that adds a trillion to the debt and sheds 2.3 million jobs and lou dobbes is here on. this wow, this was dropped 90 minutes ago. what are we to think now?
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cbo. >> nonpartisan, bill. as you are saying and what we are looking at another round of devastating numbers for all americans. because of the results of this is there will be fewer jobs as you said and they projected that obama care would eject jobs and now they are saying 2.3 million in response to the burdens that are created by obama care. and built in to this is another number that is deeply troubling and that is projected budgets. had been set at just about six and half trillion dollars. just over $6 trillion. and they rise to 7.3 trillion in deficits. there is no good news in this for the obama administration and yet we just received this. if you have time for me to say
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the head line from the press secretary at the white house saying that with many factors affecting job growth and the actual performance of business. the affordable care act would hurt the economy. this is a campaign document. it is not a release from serious individuals that govern. this is a devastating report. it said that the cost at $1.8 trillion. remember, bill, and i know you do, the first projection for the cost of obama care was just over $900 billion. it rose last year, to two, from that to 1.8 trillion over the course of ten years and to add to this, the loss of jobs and greater deficits on top of all of that, this is an implosion of the president's program. >> and a lot of revenue lost. there will be a conference call
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to loop reporters in on this. and you think it will go farther than jay carney's statement. you wonder how they explain it? >> the campaign document, the president has lost so much credibility on affordable care. and all of the misrepresentations of obama care and putting out a campaign document only adds to the problems and does not alleveate the concerns. only one that is independent and deeply troubled about the program as are millions of americans. it has to be fixed. >> for the republicans now on the right, this has to add to them a stronger argument for repairing or out right replacement. >> i think it will be out right replacement for a lot of democrats. we are dealing with the issue of
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tens of millions of cancellations of employer policies, health care insurance policies as a result of the a ca, the obama care that will occur just before the november midterm elections. this is just another rock on the back for democrats. >> to that point, to the politics and folks running for re- election on the senate. from the red state tis it a tough thing to shake. it is later on fox business network. and check it out. >> and see you soon. >> we'll get reaction from capitol hill and joining us is california congressman issa. thank you for being here. what is your reaction to the report that paints a dismal picture of the effects of obama care? >> it is a much more accurate.
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cbo said it was neutral and bought in the assumption that health care costs would go down. and as the roll out begins and you are able to score the actual affects, you are now realizing it is a job killer. trillion dollars is a lot of money. and two and half million jobs, all you have to do is figure i will be one of those two can half million and you can really feel the affects. and when we score the costs, we don't score the costs as two and half million people on welfare, but the loss of economic activity. if you go from having a job and being productive and supporting your family and long- term unemployed and unable to find a job in the coined of pay that supports your family, you will feel the affects of obama care and it is not making health care
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affordable. >> congressman, the cbo now today said we will lose 2.5 million jobs over the next ten years. they believe that employers will offer newer full- time jobs and people will be more inclined to leave jobs that they are not crazy about because they will be covered by obama care. you used to have to stick with your job to get health care and that will no longer be a part of the cal can youulous. cbo said $800 jobs will be lost and how did they get it so wrong? >> the cbo had to work with the -- make assumptions based on what were told was going to happen. 200 pages, get thrown together after the score was in and then
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70,000 of regulations and the cbo looked at the law as it is and find out it is very different than what then speaker pelosi said was going to happen. there was a lot of things that they said will happen that will not happen. and there are other surprises yet to come. there is a big increase in medicaid, where all of your taxpayer dollars being spent, it is going to be a problem. i was at lunch a few minutes ago with my colleagues and we were talking about the fact at the some point, people are going to realize we tax medical devices and the assumption in the bill is the fact that medical devices will not go up. everyone knows if you tax something it will be passed on to the consumer with higher costs. all of the medical device that we rely on to save or improve
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your life. is there a problem with obama care that is costing millions of jobs and can it be fixed? not easily. it is a law that is written badly from ground up. >> at that lunch with your republican colleagues, what did you decide to do about this, now you have more accurate numbers. republicans have tried to repeal the law. we have tried to repeal portions of. it and certainly the medical device tax is one where it makes no sense at all to tax by taxing health care. and one of the things we are trying to do, we are trying to offer alternatives that drive down health care including tort reform and try to get rid of unnecessary procedures that are done to cover the back side of hospitals and doctors. if they don't do extra tests, they may have a problem if something goes wrong. and there are things to do to
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reduce costs in the end of the day, affordable care act is not affordable and not providing affordable care and costing millions was jobs in the near future and slowed economic activity and to a certain extent, you have to be willing to dramatically reduce what was in the law. it doesn't mean that people with preexisting conditions can't get it taker care of and your 26-year-old child can't just be covered. they cost, too they are not free. they are part of the reason that people's health care costs are going up. they have to be talked about to find out if people want to pay for it. 62-year-old men do not want to pay for maternity care, and yet under the current law, that is the scheme. there is a lot of those things if congress is allowed to we can act. but until there is an intervening election it is chlor
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that the president is not budging. the senate will stone wall the house. and that's what the american people have to understand. these figures will be worse by the time we get to next january in hopes of trimming the law. >> we'll see how the american public reacts to the new figures. >> also developing on benghazi. new questions on what the president knew and learned about the attack. the acting director got a critical e-mail saying it was not connected to protest and some talking points claiming such a link went out anyway only days before the election of 2012. catherine is tracking it down from washington. what have you learned. >> reporter: thank you, bill. new details shed the light on the time line and what the deputy director of the cia and others were told after the
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attack. the attacks were not, not an escalation of protest. that e-mail was from the cia station in libya and the most senior intelligence officer on the ground. >> the way the agency works, he is running 24 hours a day to nail every attack. and reaching out to the senior levels of the organization, saying again with a big red crayon, there were no protest. >> reporter: the senate report does not explain when morel read the report. and the word islamic was cut and demonstration stayed n. and september 16th. same day susan rice was on tv morell asked the staff in libya for more information. and they reviewed closed circuit television that showed there were no protest.
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and two months and the height of the talking points controversy and susan rice went on the sunday talking show, morell went to capitol hill and met with senators. >> in that meeting, when susan rice was with director morell and wlamed the fbi for changing the talking points and we called the fbi and they go crazy and said we didn't change the talking points. you have to wonder particularly now that he may have received the e-mail the day before what was going on. >> reporter: recently it was described by the new york times magazine as clinton's principle gatekeeper. he gave an interview and advising future presidential campaign he is close to mrs. clinton. they declined to speak on camera
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about the report. and insisted that the september supported the cia position that the talking points were not politicized in any way. >> catherine, thank you from washington. he's the president's pick to be the next surgeon general. but his critics say that his politics innerfear. >> millions of americans might see a foot or more of snow in the next 24 hours. >> i think we are two of those millions. she is accused of trying to hire a hit man behind bars. and her own words in chilling newly released recordings. >> you want those people killed? >> how old? >> eight. >> you sure about that? >> yeah? you sure?
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police say a woman jailed in arizona tried to hire a hit man to kill potential witnesses and they released new evidence that proves it. bernadette beans facing 41 felony counts including scombpg offering an undercover officer 20,000 to kill four witnesses. one of them said to be a child. she is reeboked on a new charge conspiracy to commit murder. he consphired to help her boyfriend kidnap his young son.
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he killed himself in a stand off with the police. there is controversy with the president's pick for the next surgeon general. he would be the youngest to hold the post. that is not his age troubling critics but his politics. republican congressmanandy hares is a doctor and a member of the house doctor's caucus. congressman, thank you for being here. you are troubled that he is 36 years old what is the problem? >> his claim to fame is a physician organizer. we have a community organizer as president and now physician organizer as surgeon general of the united states. our tra degrees of surgeon general like edward coup. and richard car mona who is a world class trauma. and now dr. mercy who is a world class physician organizer and
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organized obama cheerleading group and the president will need all of the help he can get. because of the cbo announcement. we'll lose 2.8 million jobs. >> you say doctors for america is a cheerleading group for the president. on their website they say they are nonpartison and endorse candidates and not affiliated with the obama administration. what makes you think differently? >> read the new's press release, it is cheerleading for affordable care act. every single item is a cheerleader for. that and it does need help. cbo saying losing two and half million jobs because of this. the president picked a physician organizer, that's what dr. mercy's claim to fame. it is not clinical expertise or
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decades of experience treating american patients. none of the things that the doctor and organization said they consider gun violence a public health policy issue. others said that as well. do you disagree with that stance? >> absolutely. doctor mercy doesn't respect second amendment rights. his solution is we take away guns from law- abiding citizens we'll end crime and dpun violence. it doesn't work and will not work in america and will not now. this is the president's point of view. >> and the doctors in this organization say they are on the front lines and they see in the emergency rooms people coming in with gun shot wounds and 87 people killed from gun shot wounds and they should be involved in the discussion of
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how to combat gun violence. do you appreciate that argument? >> dr. mercy was not on the front lines. eight years out of his training and most of that time organizing a company. if he had dr. car mona and if he was talking about it maybe there would be credibility. but no credibility with someone this young who has only experience of organizing support for the affordable care out. >> we'll have dr. carmona on the program on this very topic. thank you. >> you notice something different today. >> no, i hadn't. what is it? >> we'll tell you in a moment. a new report showing that obama care will have a worse affect on the country. is it time for reform or replacement. >> and facebook, look at milestone for social media giants. >> and a sequel in the works for
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facebook's whopping ten years old today. that's made mark zuckerberg one of the wealthiest people alive. topping on the 1.2 billion. you are one of them? >> not really. i have a facebook page and i consider it a colossal sucking of time and people spend hours on it. >> is that a ghost account. it says camerota right here.
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so we want to know because it is facebook, >> what was your life before facebook entered it. >> don't facebook us, tweet us at bill hemmer. >> and to me@alisyn camerota. 140 characters are more managerable than the wall and poking. >> right you are. >> fox extreme weather alert. and two new storm systems with millions of americans in their paths. one bringing snow and ice and disaster to the plains before heading east. and meteorologist janice dean is in the fox weather center. janice, you have a lot of explaining to do. >> what are we going to do with our kids? >> thank you. >> moving over the central u.s. and tennessee river valley where we are getting ice right now. arkansas and tennessee river valley and in the penchings that
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you can see. we have all of the warm moist air up from the gulf of mexico and this freezing air. little rom and jonesborrow and that is the situation for arkansas and ohio river valley and midatlantic and northeast for the next 12- 24 hours. freezing rain. we can deal with the snow, but treacherous to drive on freezing rain and ice and power lines. that is my main concern. including philadelphia up to new york. pay close attention to the local forecast. we'll keep you up-to-date. rush hour tomorrow in the i- 95 corridor could be dangerous. >> thank you for the warning. >> janice, what a winner. new reports of secret meeting between afghan president hammid karzi and the taliban while the u.s. struggles to get a security deal in that country and the
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time for a quick check of the head lines. excutive at target testifying before the senate committee that the retailer has taken steps to fix the security after the holiday data breach that hit millions. target planning to give out smart cards next year. >> and a warning about sugar. more added sugar you eat in processed foods the risk of premature heart disease. >> and a gradual demolition of the stadium where the vikings play. that is cool. severing the cables of the roof. it will be replaced by a new $1 million stadium. >> and so a couple of minutes
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ago, i asked you what is different about our studio today. >> i don't know what? >> we went down a different hall weigh and rom. >> i knew it was different. we had a technical issue. it will be cleared up tomorrow. >> we think. >> we hope. >> we hope. back to our top story. cbo report fines more than 2 million jobs will be lost under obama care in the next decade. >> john is a republican strategist for american cross wachlt and williams a ro host. johnathon, man, this is just like red meat for republicans. 2.3 million jobs lost. and perhaps a trillion added to the debt, what is up with that? >> i think the washington post had it best when they say it is the worst headline of the year for democrats. it is a trifecta of bad news.
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2.5 million jobs lost. this is what conservatives talked about. and now the cbo is saying that. >> johnathon. that is a critical point. >> yeah. >> and they want to kick it out and another thing to hear from the cbo. finish your report. >> and ebonnie the cbo said 800,000 jobs, that was the first number and now today they corrected the estimate to 2.3 million. and what do you say to americans who feel hood wifrpged that they were solid a bill of goods. >> this is not good news. i would not sugar coat. that this is not exclusively the result of obama care. it is a lessening of productivity with our gross domestic product and inflation in account as well. it is a hybrid of things that is
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causing the really disappoint numbers. snishgs is that a defense? >> no, it is not. it is bad news for all working americans. here is the thing though, we saw the president last week in the state of the union talk about how he is welcoming concepts and feedback. the law is not beyond revisiting and anyone thinks that good ideas are just republican or democrat are not truthful. >> oh, come on, now. >> excuse me? >> the republican in the house passed measures and they go no where. i don't know how many people are buying. that johnathon. this is what the cbo is saying now with 33 percent of the law initiated, how much worse will it be or get? that has to be the fear. >> here is the issue. they can put pr effort and issues behind this thing. they are trying to sell something that is an unpopular
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product. like selling the new coke. it is difficult to sell something that people don't want. and the more bad news, harder to get people enrolled and then you fall in a death spiral situation where people are not there to fund it. i don't know what they do to head that off. >> ebonnie on a lighter note. the administration is trying to heighten awareness about obama care and what better way to do that than with a cat, watch this. >> ♪ ♪ we need ya. ♪ i am the one that loves treats. and you pet and care for me. ♪ and that is catchy, i have to admit. that is the new ad campaign to lure people in obama care, what do you think? >> it doesn't work for me, alisyn. i applaud them by recognizing that we as women are concerned about the long-term.
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if they get our attention it will spread to the male counterparts. i have to disagree with johnathon. people don't want it. they don't know about the subsidies and i think advertising measures are needed as to what it can provide. >> i am thinking kibbles and bits, ally? johnathon what attracts you, the talking cat or the dude at christmas time hanging out with the coughy and fire. which one are you buying? >> the obama campaign has used pets as part of the pr initiatives in the past. you might remember that i bark for barak campaign they did with the first dog back in 2012. it is symbolic that the the traditional pr campaign is not working and 80 percent of the people don't know there is
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a march 31st deadline and they will be taxed. and so they have a lot of problems. i don't so how they will head it off as a pr. >> where is dr. do little today? was he busy? >> it is a little do littlesque. ebonnie johnson thank you for getting the word out about the new report out today. >> thank you, guys. >> and fox news alert now. big meeting between the president and top general in afghanistan. that meeting is coming amid reports that afghan president hammid karzi is holding secret talks with the taliban. michael kay former advisor of the uk defense. >> i have that tune in my head. >> so dough do we talk to the animals. on a serious note now. how big of a deal if karzi is talk toth taliban before a u.s. security pact is signed or based
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on what we are seeing here close to being signed? >> we have to take a poll. it is no military one in afghanistan. we had 20,000 in the height of the insurgency and the taliban is active as ever. when they look the west, you may have have the watches and we have the time is playing out nicely. it doesn't matter the afore structure. it is not the solution. >> karzi is still an issue, right? you would freely admit karzi is a problem? >> i think we have to try to get in the the mindset of karzi and afghan society. never try to solve the problem with the same logic that created. it what we are trying to do is impose a centralized government tempalate on afghanistan. and kabul has a rule of law and extends in the provinces and
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that's the way the country should be run on a sovereignty- based system. we should understand that afghanistan doesn't apply to a sovereignty- based system as we understand them. it is all about tribal cultures and passions in the south and the ones in the north as well. what we have to do is try to understand through a decentralized structure how to apply goffinance in the country. that allows the tribes to get on with their own rule of law and the systems they are used to for years. >> that could be the eventuality there, if that is the case that involves the taliban. >> it does. >> will the administration be forced to accept a deal like that? >> i don't think they have a choice. the taliban are still going to be here unless the west puts significance force over 30 or 40
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or 50 years. we have to expect to see the future of afghanistan involving the taliban in some way. if we don't accept that they will keep coming on. >> that might be difficult for the administration and veterans in this country to it accept and manage. michael kay, thank you for your time. thanks. >> president obama vowing to go it alone and issuing executive orders he will use his pen and phone to a accomplish his agenda. and the septemberor is demapping a legal explanation. >> face-to-face with evil. a woman speaking out about her ordeal. how she manageed to break free as we heard from her relieved husband. >> we are flat out tired and glad she is home. the ordeal she has been through is pretty rough on her, and then
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quick check of the real story from gretchen carlson. >> explosive claims about obama care in oregon. did the state insurance health exchange mislead the federal government out of millions of dollars? >> they join me exclusively coming up. target is fast tracking the new card that is supposed to prevent credit card hacking. we'll show you the card. next time you go to bible study could you use the duck dynasty curriculum? we'll explain. >> see you, grech, thanks. >> i am eag tore work with all of you. but america does not stand still and neither will i. so where ever and when ever i can take steps without legislation to expand opportunity for more american families, that's what i will do. >> he is ready to act on his own
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by using the power of the pen. president obama making executive orders. >> a senator concerned about constitutional overreach is demanding that the justice department provide a legal justification for those orders. we'll bring a analyst to talkth >> hello, guys. >> senator chuck grassly wants attorney general eric holder to provide a legal basis for the executive orders. presidents are allowed to issue executive issues. what do we need to know? >> there are two kinds of executive orders. he is the chief executive of the executive branch of the federal government. if you include the military, he has 3 million human beings that work for him. if he issues an executive order that guides them and how to enforce federal law that is cop siftent with federal law and compliments and supplements what
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congress has written and normal and legal and expected and all predecessors have done. it but if he issues a executive evered that does the opposite of what the federal law is supposed to do, as he has done, he is in dangerous territory and has an obligation to explain the will legal basis and i join in senator grassly plea. i don't think the president will do it. >> where has he run afoul of federal law? >> june of 2012. he was concerned that hispanics might vote for rit romney he said all illegal immigrants could be deported f. you do abc or d, i will not deport you. >> they are inconsistent with the statute. that is rewriting federal law
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which he does not have the opportunity to do it. >> you think if you challenged they could win on that point? >> that is the insidious nature of this, bill. it is difficult to find the right person to challenge. it surely an individual who benefitted by his attempts to change the law would not challenge it. they benefitted it. only someone who is harmed and ready to be the next citizen or lawful resident bumped by the illegals because the president changed the law. that person might be in a position to challenge. >> you can understand grassly's position and frustration? >> yes, this justice department has argued that it is legal rationale is classified. you can classify military secrets and diplomatic secrets and national security secrets, but i never heard of a president
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until this one successfully argue that a legal argument is a secret. a legal argument is based on laws that are public and legal opinions that are public. and so how can the argument coming from the laws and opinions be secret? but this justice department made that argument and got one federal judge in the new york city to buy that nonsense. i expect them to do the same thing when senator grassly presses them for the legal argument. >> thank you, judge. you are our best kept secret. >> thank you so much. >> a desperate call from a woman who escaped a cantor who was a convicted killer. >> 911. >> sounds calm.
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cost in the next ten years, the amount of money added to our debt over the next ten years. this is big stuff, major headlines and we're going to monitor the reaction from the white house on hq. >> update to a story we brought you yesterday on hq, the hunt is over after a convicted murderer escaped a michigan prison, took a woman hostage and led police on a chase through indiana. now he's facing new charges. mike tobin live, what's the latest? >> he told the woman whose car he hijacked he wanted to get as far away from michigan as possible. but when he was apprehended he was 10 miles from the state line. armed with a hammer and box cutter he hijacked a woman a short distance from the prison which he escaped, drove into indiana. when they stopped for gas, she made a break and called 911 from a cell phone she had stashed away. shortly after that elliot dumped
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the jeep he had stolen from the woman. he switched out cars. according to sheriff's deputies the monte carlo was reported stolen. the alert went out. a short time after, sheriff's deputies caught the video. there was a short chase but they threw something called stop sticks out and they apprehended elliot. >> right there, one of them, and the deputy came from behind, pulled him out and took him to the ground and put him in handcuffs. it worked out great. everybody came together and we got the job done. >> elliot escaped from maximum security prison in ionnia sunday after authorities say he got ahold of a white kitchen uniform, that camouflaged him with the snow. he peeled back two perimeter fences to get out. the fence is supposed to be
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>> met my italian wife. >> chris said his life was peace f ful. >> they all were, short days ago. >> thanks for watching. i'm alisyn camerota. >> here is gretchen carlson. see you tomorrow. bye-bye. >> fox news alert, senate set to pass a major new farm bill, $156 billion bucks, a billion a page. hi, everyone. i'm gretchen carlson, welcome to "the real story." we're expecting the story a half hour from now. the bill is really, really, really long and a whopping cost. so what exactly is in this farm bill and what are we paying for in it. 80% of the funding will go to food stamps. some lawmakers trying to close a loophole in the program known as heat and eat. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel live on capitol hill with more. mike, what is heat and eat? >> g
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