best i can do. >> we'll have that tape forever. thank you for joining us. >> america's news headquarters starts right now. know a hearing on irs conservative groups. i am bill hemmer. >> and i am alisyn camerota. republicans outraged of an e-mail from lois lerneroused to now rules to clafrng down on the tea party group. >> the president of the united states can go on national television on a day when people watch television. and say there is not a smidgeon of corruption in the irs targeting scandal. we allow people victim used by the internal rev now.

>> the irs subjected me to rounds of inquiry and providing facebook and twitter and questions about my political aspirations and demanded to know what i spoke and content and where i inttended to speak. the lying has not spot. i represent the tea party patriots and they don't have the c4 status. >> who gave the irs the authority to say this? and how is it that the president of the united states can say there is no smidgeon of corruption? >> how can the president say there is not criminality when lois lerner are invoked the fifth amendment and the witnesses have not spoken including the two now? how can he draw that conclusion?

congressman, thank you for being here. tell us what you learned that was new? >> it was the fact that it is still going on and the targeting is happening today and the other troubling thing we have an investigation that is complete and the president said not a smidgeon of evidence and yet they haven't been interviewed. how can we have a verdict without going through the process? >> you are referring to the president's interview with bill o'rielly that he said no corruption. not a smidgeon of corruption. how could jose that when to your mind the investigation is the not over? >> obviously he has been misinformed. it is typical of bureaucracy in washington d.c., we get the talking point out there without the evidence being behind it. we need to investigate it further. there were calls for a special

prosecutor to look into this. we have an oversight responsibility and a responsibility to the american people to get to the bottom of it. >> you know the president suggested that you are beating a dead horse. there is no there, there. what are you trying to find out? >> we have to restore trust with the american government. it is obvious there is not trust but it is underlying the very fabric of who we are as a nation. and what speeches have you begin and give us the text of that. that is not the america we love and a dore. >> let me stop you there. e-mails that were sent to lois lerner seemed to suggest they were trying to figure out if the tea party groups were acting as a political organization. if they were, they were not eligible for 501 c4 because that is reserved to social welfare.

wasn't it incumbent of the irs to ask the questions of the tea party groups? >> if you get in to the details of what was asked, the answer is no. liberal groups were asked the same but far fewer and all of them were approved, and yet the conservative groups were asked over and over detailed questions that were intimate detail and certainly the irs shouldn't have rights to ask about. >> what do you want and where will you go from here? how will you interview and how will you get to the bottom of the investigation that you want? >> certainly in highlighting the e-mails that came out recently, we know they are trying to change the 501 c4 rowel so that targeting didn't happen. we have to it fight that because it stifles free speech. we need to stand up and hold our

government accountable. that's what the people want. >> congressman thank you for the debriefing on that today. >> we want to bring in chris wallace, archingor of fox news sunday. >> thank you. >> are you able to gauge the political fallout based on what we heard today? >> i don't know if you can quantify it. but it gives fuel to the fire that the republicans are trying to build over the irs scandal. first, the president on sunday said there is not a smidgeon of corruption and there is an ongoing investigation. top officials haven't been unterigated. it the president how can he say verdict today and trial tomorrow. and a lice in wonderland formulation. and an indication that the irs would file new regulations to

tighten up on the social welfare groups can get tax exempt if they are involved with politics. we hear back in 2012, that lois lerner was in the e-mail chain. and he was the irs official involved in the targeting who in a noncorrupt scandal, there is the picture of her. that was the day she refused to testify and took the fifth amendment to protect herself against self incrimination. and one point, when the irs would come up with the now regulation, it was as a response to the scandal. but the e-mail was before the scandal broke. and so the question becomes, why were they looking to tighten the regulations before there was a scandal. >> one key word is off plan. offering to taking it off line and talk about it in person.

you mention the smidgeon comment. do we see the comment from the president in a different light already. >> last sunday it seemed odd. i am sitting there watching it and fortunate enough to be in the game but watching bill o'reilly with the president when he said there is not a smidgeon of 0 rupgz. i my reaction is how does he know that? there is no resolved of the wrongdoing here, so how can the president give a verdict and all clear sign when the investigation is going on. >> what is next, chris. where does it go and what is the next page in the story do you think? >> the republicans will keep the heat on in the house and we'll have to hear from the defendant department on how the investigation has been completed

and if so, how is the irs given a clean bill of health. if holder were to say that, that would not satisfy the people concerned and not the targeting of tea party. >> chris, great to have you back in. and catch his show on fox news sunday and a lot of talk over syria over the weekend. and he will have representative mike motorcycle mccaul and representative adam schiff. >> a fox extreme weather alert. utility crews are trying to restore power. at one point it left 150,000 customers in the cold and dark. they may have to work through the weekend to get the lights

back on. there is a new blast of the frigid air on the move, more on on obama care. y duke university. 44 percent of top american companies say the health care law has them already considering cutting back on benefits to current employees. stephen moore and fox news contributor. good afternoon to you. 44 percent? >> yeah. >> head of a ol saying it costs them what? sen million a year? >> right. and remember this comes 24 hours after we got news from the congressional budget office that 2 million people will be removed from the work force and now further confirmation. and this was a survey of major players in the country. 44 percent may eliminate health care and drop the employer

plans. let's assume that number is right in terms of what employers do. i calculate somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 million americans could lose health insurance or key features because of obama care. >> you stand by that it number. one in five americans lose? >> assuming that the survey is right. >> so the purpose of this conversation if indeed it is right and all of the people hanging in the balance in 10 or 11 months, what is the solution here then? >> great question, i think i would start getting rid of the man date that is imposed on the employers. we delayed that for a year. and why not get rid of the man date. that means the employers don't have an incentive to dump the plan. we go back to obama care, if you

like the plan you have, you will not lose. it a lot of the workers will involuntarily lose the employer plan. i know i like mine. >> the companies will pass costs on to employees. they don't have a choice. >> what duke said half are reluctant to hire full- time employees because of the health care act. you stand to make lose money and lose the health care. >> this is what american workers are starting to work up. and that's why the unions want to buy out of obama care so they are exempt from the laws. yeah, if i am wrong 50 support and 15 or 20 million lose health care. we have 5 million losing plans in november and december.

january 1st was a big date. that's when all employer man dates kick in and that's when a lot of employees will get the messages and notices from the health care plans, you have been dropped. >> we'll talk about the solutions in the coming weeks. >> thank you, stephen moore. >> president obama vowing to do what he can for his party. democrats in red states may not want his help. we'll debate that fair and balanced. >> new terror thets in sochi with the olympics games. the feds are issuing warnings to airlines and we'll talk about that and there is this. that comes from police wearing a camera, giving up a close- up look at this terrifying shootout. >> i can't hear you.

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is a police shot out with a suspect in alburquerque, new mexico caught on camera watch. this so this video gives a firsthand account of what the officers are up agains a suspect with an assault style gun and body armoropened fire. and police had just made this public. four police officers were shot and all survived and cops eventually killed the suspect. >> and fort lauderdale, customers and employees scrambling for safety and dropping to the four as two

disguised men came in. >> it was like a machine gun and one of them touched me on the arm and put my hands where he could see me. and everybody could have been dead. >> no one was hurt. one bandit. a rifle and the other handgun. employees could not open the safe and all they got away with is the customer's cell phone. they are still on the run. >> winter limb lips -- olympicso under way in sochi. they are warning of toth past tubes that could make a bomb on an airplane. toothpaste tubes? >> it is a old threat. plastic and that look like tooth

paeft and mold them to look like dolls and put them in the lines of suitcases. they must have new information that there may be a effort to smuggle explosives into the olympics villages or takedown a plane. that is always a concern. you have enough explosives to punch a whole in an aircraft. >> how do airline officials combat against that? >> right now, they have stepped up background checks and vetting everyone that goes into flights in and out of the russia right now. i don't think they can squeeze out toth paeft out of everyone's toth. if they had a threat they might do that. but they will be on the look. and if it is explosives, there are many detectors that will show not as tooth paeft but

a bright green substance or on the x-ray system. >> beyond all of the threats and worries in the media of a terror threat. there are images trickling out of sochi. twitter is a buzz of these of the gross conditions that lite lots and americans and journalist are confronting. here is the water in one journalist hotel it is orange colored and she was warned not to have it touch her face. they look like out of the roach motel. how can we trust the russians to handle security when the other conditions are so shoddy? >> i spent a lot of the time in russia, and i will say this. russians are much better at security than perhaps the other things. i think it is going to work out. we have had a lot of sporting

and olympics events that had construction delays and things like. that i think they will pull it together at the end. they have excellent security. i would be surprised to see a problem in the village itself, the olympics village. what we may see is a problem somewhere else in russia because they can't get to the olympics village. >> let's hope they have it together. neal livingstop, thank you for your expertise. >> and the president telling democrats he will do everything he can to help them get reelected. that might including coping a distance. >> what a scientist has invented to be a ghaim game changer for the industry. >> and a milestone. check him out in all of his glory. >> he doesn't talk or move a

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>> an american icon turning to 50. hasdro interviewed gis just a moment the ceo said he served in army in korea. and that was a way to honor veterans. the original toy it on the chance. how much? >> one froin. >> no, it said in the prompter. $4 a pose. >> i never use the prompter. >> we want to know, america.

>> what was your favorite childhood toy or game. >> send me a tweet to bill hemmer. >> and to me alisyn camerota. and check it out. a scientist in mitt invented something that could jump-start the electric car industry. he called it cam bridge crude. doug kennedy has more in the newsroom. >> yeah, alisyn most electric cards go less than 100 miles to it a single charge and to many that is simply not far enough. peter lil has been driving a tow truck in new york state since 1999. and more and more you are seeing electric cars that don't make it to the next charge. >> they have no where to charge. where are they going?

>> and researchers are stumped. building a bigger battery it is bigger. >> the car goes slower and uses more energy. >> that's right. this is a problem that battery scientist have worked on a couple of years. this is the first prototype. he is a scientist in mitt and he says he has a solution. a battery charged liquid called cam bridge crude. >> this will allow you to make a lighter and cheaper battery with more energy. >> that's right. it is a battery electrode and we have taken nano scale conductor particles and allows us to

extract the electricity. >> another problem is how long charging is attacks. >> once his he charged and easily transferred. he envisions a future where we no longer pump gas but pump our cars withrged cam bridge crude. >> peter remains skeptical. >> we are not ready for electrical cars yet. >> not ready yet. but cam bridge crude will take us three times as far at half of the price. >> i like that math, dougs. >> he is a smart guy up there. >> thank you. reaction after a major drug store chain first to ban cigarettes in the store. we'll talk to a former surgeon general about. that >> and president obama will stay away with campaigning with red

state democrats if that helps them win. >> remembering ronald reagan on what would have been his 103rd birthday honoring the late president. >> nine most terrifying words in the english language is i am from the government and i am here to help.

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one alaska city is reopening after a dozen avalanche shut it down two weeks ago. one avalanche was 40 or 50 feet. and it was only accessible by air and water today. >> president obama telling law makers and saying worldwide religious freedom is important to national security. we watched it earlier. >> president ronald reagan born on this day 103 years ago. he starred in dozens of films before being elected president. >> what a remarkable funeral with the sunsetting there in california in the west. wow. >> 103. >> don't bet the house on seeing much of president obama on the campaign trail with red state democrats this fall. >> the president will do everything he can to help his party come out on top even

according to reports that if that means not for campaigning for them and staying away. pat cadell and ed rons and both are fox news contributors. >> thank you. >> pat, apparently the president sat down with democrats this week and acknowledged that his presence might be like the skunk at the picnic and he offered to stay away if need be. do you think we'll so him campaigning with democrats on the campaign trail. >> i think in the senate races where republicans and unknown challenges, you won't. the president is very unpopular in the south other than states. i think the president said what helps you? you want me to support you or attack you. i will stay away. and the democrats are a utomi

tons for harry reid and the white house on every vote and particularly obama care. the separation may not work. >> ed, what do you think? you stay away or what? >> the president can always raise money. but i wouldn't want him to come to the the states. the senate is the battleground and the house may have a couple of additions. but nine senate seats, sen of them were won by romney and bringing in obama to talk about obama care or income equality is a real liability. he can't turn out the vote. pat will tell you 60 percent of the potential elected votes, 40 percent vote in the off year and traditionally it is married and older people and more wealthy people and traditionally more

republican. and my sense, the president. >> it is not an asset. >> pat, you are big picture guys, what does it say for the democrat party leading in the midterm election if they can't have their leader with them? >> the problem is, they need a leader to have a different program. the problem for democrats tis unhappy voters and we agree about everything ed said. but they are unhappy people more than happy people and the problem with the democrats, the president's white house agenda is liberal and doesn't play. they would get more help from the president if he had a real jobs program and economic program. and the democrats instead of embracing the disaster of obama care, were willing to do something about it. it is the policies at the top.

not so much whether he physically appears or not. >> ed, react to this. the democrat in alaska said this week, i want him up in alaska so i can show him where his policies have not worked and show him what he needs to do and i don't need him campaigning for me. >> he is correct on all fronts. they are not going to welcome him in the state in arkansas or lu luis iana. and obama care may not be repealed or altered but it is unpopular and people will figure out they will get less for a lot more money. and he's almost become irrelevant to the political process. >> pat, if the president is

almost irrelevant and can't go to arkansas and alaska. where will he go? >> he will go to the blue states and where he can get money to funnel the other states or where he has popularity and where he can, you know, more popularity. the problem is in the states they may lose. and this is again to the policy prescription. there needs to be something that is more realistic for the democrats. remember their problem as i said before, they are right up to the point the white house picks up the phone and we need your vote. all of these four septemberors are behind with the 60th vote on obama care. and they are key votes on everything. they have not shown they are willing to stand up for their states rather than for the left- wing of the democrat party. the republicans have not show --

>> have they not exploited that? >> it is early in the campaign and pat is right. they haven't until this point in time. but the math is clear and to a certain extent. we have a long ways to go before november and i think we are getting good candidates and raising good money and to a certain extent the environment will get worse for democrats in the coming six months. >> do the republicans take the senate or too close to call? >> i think there is a chance. >> i wont have said two months ago, they would win the senate. but whether they can hold it. you are dealing with a party that is fully capable of blowing it. they do every election. >> thank you. the medical community cheering cvs care mark after they said they would pull

tobacco products come october. the move will cost 2 billion. but the company's ceo said it will be a help to be a central play are in the u.s. health care center. dr. car mona, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> what do you think of the announcement? >> i applaud it. it is it a bold move. and tobacco is the number one preventible cause of death and it is a good step forward. >> do you think that this is a beginning of a trend and we'll see other big companies like wa lmart stop it selling cigarettes? >> i hope so. they are the early adopters and i think there will be late followers. we still have half million people dying from tobacco- related causes and millions more with harm and chronic disease. we all pay for that. >> what is interesting about

cvs, they want to move in the health care realm. do you think that this suggest a shift of cvs operating as your primary care physician when you go there when you have a flu or sore throat or whatever? >> that is already happening. we have nurse practitioner and nurse's assistants in pharmacies and locations in the communities. there is a trend because of the challenges in our health care system to have portals of entry for people who need health care. >> you were the surgeon general and switch to the presidt obama's pick of surgeon general. you think he's not ready for prime time, why not? >> the process has been flawed here. the united states public health service is one of seven uniform serbses. names are given to the president

to be nominated based on working your way 20 or 30 years up in the top and having the president nominate you and the senate confirm you. he has circuited the system. we look for experience and can speak to congress and nations and public about complex health problems. this young man who has been out of training a now years and not much on his resume to be warranted to look for as a physician. and we have qualified public health officers and admiral and would like to be considered and they can't do that because this process is circumvented. it is unfair for those who served their country for decades and they don't get to be surgion general. >> and do you have concerns that he's also in addition to being too young and inexperienced that he is too political? >> certainly that is a concern i

heard. and if you look at his resume and so if he is qualified to be a tenure professor. and this is a senior tenured position to be surgeon general. and he is in a entry level and out of training and doesn't have experience. he has no public health training or experience other than vol tore work. i really do think he is a fine young gifted surgeon or physician, who has great potential. we need somebody with experience that can handle a terrorism, and weapons of mass destruction and bsz and cardiovas cullar disease and directly speaking with the congress and president the providing advice. as a nation we really look at people who work their way up to

the top and have experience. you don't become a full professor until you aerped the right to be there. admirals and generals are earning the right to be there. if he gets to be a physical he bypasses everybody and it is offensive to my colleagues in the uniformed services who worked their whole life. >> and doctor carmona thank you. and great to have you on. >> thank you, doctor. >> a firefighter rushing in to help in the scene of a accident. >> why is he in handcuffs? this dispute triggering controversy. we'll tell you about it. >> we don't know what went through the officer's mind. >> our engineer was doing what they were trained to do and taking care of patient care and protect that scene. [ female announcer ] who are we?

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gretchen carlsson. >> hi, guys, we have a exclusive interview who is suing the federal government that was unfairly targeted by the irs. the president's claim that there is not a smidgeon of corruption in the irs is dead wrong. and we'll talk to dirty harry himself. clint east wood will be on to talk about a cause near his heart. and was this helmet really worn by eli manning. this man said it is a fake. >> thanks. >> police and firefighters are supposed to be on the same side when it comes to saving lives in a emergency. something went wrong in southern california. the police handcuffed -- sorry, a firefighter handcuffed by the

police. he was detained 30 minutes and the police say it was a misunderstanding. but that is doing little to quell the outrage. mark is here and a les is a fox news analyst. why are you outraged, mark? >> how could you not? listen, the firefighter is out there to protect live and a 12 year veteran and blocked the ambulance and make sure everybody was there to be safe. the officer strips him of his liberty and the four fire said i will not move my rig. if you don't move now you are under arrest. this cop, your ego is not your a miggo. a les. there were three fire trucks in the fast lane and the police

wanted the firemen to move rigs out of the fast lane and he was administering help to victims and he done. who was right here? >> i understand the outrage. you are right. three fire trucks and two had complied and the other one was asked to comply and there was a clash of authority. the police have the highest authority in a crash like this. and not the firefighters. and the cop was exercising his authority. he thought he had authority. i am making the case here. he thought he had. >> you are doing a good job. >> he thought he the ultimate authority and his duty to was clear the fast lane to get the traffic rolling again. >> i don't think you are buying your own argument. >> how can you tell? >> it is all right. >> i am a lawyer. >> and all right. thank you for saying that. >> but mark, is there a recourse

here or is this just an unfortunate incident that needs to be put behind everyone? >> they need to meet, the cop who is nothing like the chips i remembered with erica's character pofrn would estrada character would have never done something like this. he was probably best suited for a desk job. imagine he deals with the same thought process dealing with a firefighter saving lives, what is he doing with civilians out there. the answer is unfortunately, no, there isn't going to be any lawsuits. he wasn't detain, he was arrested, because he wasn't able to leave for 30 minutes. >> you agree. there's no recourse. >> no recourse, potentially a civil lawsuit. he was detained for about an hour and a half. not a lot of damages there. everybody agreeing with him, the firefighter. >> your amigo is not your amigo. the line of the day. >> no rest for the winter weary. a new blast of arctic air

hitting millions of americans. the latest and the frigid forecast. >> this isn't just monkey business. the safety drill that had zoo worker and gorilla behind the net. i can't make this up camerota.

>> phil, i don't want you to be scared. there's video hard to watch with a straight face, even though it's serious. a zoo preparing for the possibility of a gorilla escaping its cage after an earthquake. now, some might say this is an overgrown teddy bear. but no, this is actually an escaped gorilla drill. you'll be happy to know the king of apes was captured.

or he took a nap. >> they had him surrounded. extreme weather alert. arctic air coming our way. chief meteorologist with more on that. where to now, rick? >> i mean here. this is where it seems to stay this winter. it hasn't really ever fully gone away. the windchill, minus 12 in fargo, gloss gow, minus 4 in amarillo. cold tonight. windchill advisory across northern plains towards the central high plains and toward the buffalo area. a very cold night. a lot of people keep in mind across pennsylvania and upstate nosh without power. a very cold night without power for sure. next few days shaping up like this. minneapolis sunday cool down, cold air keeps undulating toward the lower 48, retreats a little to canada and comes back down. the cold air part of the south,

big snow in dallas. shouldn't say big snow but trouble making snow over bridges and overpasses. snow across louisiana, again, mississippi. the good news, bill, across the west. a place that desperately needs rain and snow. they are going to get it all week long. >> thank you, rick. bundle up, my man. >> he said undulate. meanwhile g.i. joe turns 50. what's your favorite childhood toy? >> your best memory. >> i can't wait to hear yours. >> and yours. [ sneezes, coughs ]

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>> asked favorite toy. >> train set. >> growing up, sit and spin, boy did that pay off. a political reference.

>> something i always wanted but never had, big wheel. he's not sour. >> sticks and branches. today's kids have no idea they were the original transformers. that's nice. thanks for watching. i'm alisyn camerota. >> i'm bill hammer. "the real story" with gretchen starts right now. bye-bye. >> hi, everyone. i'm gretchen carlson. dems trying to convince republicans it's all a good idea, the measure extending benefits for 1.7 million americans as they continue to look for work at a cost of $6.4 billion. the current national unemployment right now sits at 6.3%. chief congressional correspondent live for us on capitol hill. mike, what's different about the latest offer on unemployment. >> gretchen, it would extend benefits for three months. it's paid for by pension