>> that's going to wrap it up. we had a great week, didn't we? >> we did. it's friday. >> i know it. >> we're coming back -- >> what do you want to do the last two secretaries? >> -- seconds. >> say see you monday. martha: fox news alert breaking right now. a weak jobs report just out. this raises concerns about the health of the u.s. economy. businesses add only 113,000 jobs across the entire nation last month. that's far below what economists were looking for. gregg: i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer. the jobless rate is falling to 6.6% but that won't make up for what analysts are calling weak numbers for the second month in

a row. >> a lot of people talked about the weather. we knew there might be some distortion to this. we came in initially a week or so ago. people thought it would be 190,000. even taking into account the polar voir deks. no one thought it would be 114,000. it's an extraordinarily low number. everyone said 174,000 in december is wrong. it would be resides. it was revised by an extra 1,000. i have got to tell you, the federal reserve changed its policy in december and when they did that they were signal together world they thought the worst was off and we were probably going to get some momentum. we got the exact opposite so far. martha: 73,000 revised upward.

>> reporter: 74,000 to 75,000. martha: what do you think? why aren't people hiring? >> reporter: i just came back from madison, wisconsin. i spoke to business owners there. these guys want to invest, they want to spend, they want to hire. they are saying if we can get a cease-fire from the federal government. let us go for the sands that we have. let us build the pipe lines. let us make money without feeling guilty and ashamed. they are doing it anyway in that particular state but they could do so much more. i will tell you the silver lining for this report was construction. 48,000 construction jobs. starting to see that come back. it may bode well for the housing market and economy. there are slivers of hope in any of these reports. none of them have been great and

we need greatness right now. martha: almost half of the number was straight from construction. >> reporter: that's a good thing. manufacturing is up. you look at this number and it paints a picture of a nation that's flat footed and not sure of itself. we are creating jobs but nowhere near the jobs we are capable of and we should be at this stage of the so called recovery. martha: a lot of people have given up not looking for work and that will be contributed to from obamacare. >> reporter: liberated from the chores of working. it's a beautiful thing. martha: we won't liberate you. we promise. gregg: we could see yet another obamacare delay. this time it could last for three long years. we can confirm that the obama administration is considering

asking insurance companies to let millions of americans keep their existing healthcare plans that were actually canceled. and this would be through 2016. the health and human services department says not a done dealer yet but it is under consideration. the administration says they are look at many ways to smooth the transition as they implement the law. we'll have a lot more on this later on in america's newsroom. he can real weather alert. much of the country is still recovering from the weekend's brutal winter storm as current weather conditions are leaving utility crews absolutely overwhelmed just about everywhere. they are trying to restore power to the hundreds of thousands left in the dark and the freezing cold in pennsylvania, and the weather til creating dangerous traffic conditions. cars and trucks sliding. there is a winter weather

advisory warning in texas. commuters are facing threatening conditions. >> it's scary. >> reporter: are you going to try to venture out? >> if it's worse than today, oh, no. it's better not travel at all. the last time i did that i almost killed myself. gregg: david lee miller is live with more. it seems like the northeast was hard hit. >> reporter: pennsylvania is still reeling from the storm. vice president joe biden says a state of emergency has been declared there. hundreds of thousands of homes are still without power. 1 million people in pennsylvania were without juice. the outages were caused by a thick coating of the ice on the

trees and power lines. about 3,500 utility workers have come from as far away as alaska to get service back to normal. authorities are warning people not to use generators or gas grills indoors. two dozen people have been treated in hospital for carbon monoxide poisoning. maryland, 76,000 people there still do not have power. gregg: that's the northeast. what's happening out west? >> reporter: a powerful storm hit the pacific northwest leaving behind a foot of snow. the second punch is expected to hit oregon this afternoon. the latest storm caused a 25-vehicle pileup with cars and tractor-trailers, smashing into one another. the bad weather led the state legislature to cancel meetings scheduled for today.

in texas a local utility there is asking customers to use less power. the subject very freezing temperatures have increased demand. authorities warn that in parts of texas there could be rotating blackouts. at least 1,000 utility customer in texas are waking up without power. they had to cancel classes for today as they need to try to recover from the latest storm. martha: the state department is accusing of russia of reaching a new low after a leaked conversation of victoria nuland * was leaked. >> that would be great to help

glue this thing and have the u.n. glue it and [bleep] the eu. the white house has not confirmed the voice on that call but it points to pushu russia as the source of the bug and the leak. a russian diplomat says no, it wasn't us. don't look at us. gregg: taliban fighters in afghanistan releasing videotape of and british military service canine captured during a raid. that dog colonel appears to be held by a chain. a u.s. led international security force did confirm a military working dog went missing in december. unclear when that video was taken or if the dog is still alive. martha: could you cash your next

check at the post office? why the mail service which has been under a lot of pressure, they are going to try to be more like a bank to boost their profits. gregg: he cleaned up pretty well. the man who he he spent a year at sea speaking out. will this convince the doubters who think his story is bogus? martha: she dropped a bombshell that the irs targeting of conservative groups is still happening and the administration's investigation isn't happening. >> the irs scandal is not a bean headed bunch of bureaucrats in some remote office, contrary to what the president of the united states told the american people sunday.

gregg: a salvadoran man who says he spent a year in the pacific drifting. he says he's grateful for the help he received from the local government. take a listen. >> thank you to the government here for all the help. for my friend who helped me on my way here. >> he wanted to say thank you to everybody helping him. he has been through a lot and still recovering. he's just a little dehydrated. but everything is is good with hem. gregg: he says he and another man left in late 2012 for a fishing trip. a big storm threw them off

course. his partner died, and he drifted until he reached the marshall island. an investigation is ongoing to clarify his story. >> the irs scandal is real. the irs scandal is not just a bone headed bunch of bureaucrats in some remote office contrary to what the president of the united states told the american people. the irs scandal is not over. it is continuing to this day and the department of justice investigation is a sham. we filed for tax exempt status in november of 2009. despite cash our check for the filing fee we didn't hear from the irs until june of 2010. we didn't hear from cincinnati. we heard from washington. i have been doing this a long

time and i have never seen anything like it. and to say that it was bone headed mistake is to treat all of these people with utter contempt and disrespect. martha: very explosive yesterday. that was cleta mitchell at the hearing at the house oversight committee. she is an activist that represents a dozen conservative groups who say they have been part of this long drawn-out process where they have been questioned about what they read and what they prayed for as part of this process. she joins us from raleigh. good to have you here today. one of the biggest headlines out of your testimony is you said this is ongoing. this is still happening. how do you substantiate that? >> last summer the irs acting commissioner announced "great

fanfare that they were going to cut a deal with the hundreds of groups that were still awaiting tax exempt status after 3 years, 2 years, 4 years, and offered this deal to many groups whose application were still pending which i couldn't have i anyone to accept because it created thipg that are absolutely not true and not in the irs regulations that people would have to agree to. so you had group that didn't accept the deal. i had two client who did not accept the deal. and both of those group received additional letters with more burden some information that we are now going on three and four year that we had to submit responds to in the fall. one of the group just got its c4 recognition in november. and the other group, a tea party patriots who applied in december

of 2010, they still don't have their tax exempt status. they are still waiting. martha: you said they have gotten new requests for more information. what kind of things did the irs ask them to agree to that you said you would have i them no way, you cannot possibly say yes to that. >> the two thing that were most troubling. the organize would have to agree they would never engage in more than 40% of their activities on political activity. that's not what the law says. the law says a majority cannot can spent on political activity. but the second thing they made up out of whole cloth and they are trying to make permanent and that was organizations would have to capture the value of volunteer activity. there is nothing in the law that

explains how you do that. it would require organizations to count the value of volunteer activities. how do you do that? martha: are there liberal or progressive groups who received the same information that have been told no more than 40% of political activity and you need to quantify your volunteers? >> i never heard after single liberal group that has received that kind of request from the irs for information and i know of no progressive group that was offered that deal. there may be some but i don't know of any. martha: they may step forward to say we are under the same scrutiny. so we invite them to do that if that is the case. >> i would like to know, too. martha: i would like to play a little more sound from

yesterday. and also becky harrison who is a tea party group leader. >> it give one pause to think there is interagency collusion between private citizens. it's the weaponnization of government. lois lerner took the fifth for a reason. government employees don't go rogue in mass. their orders originate from somewhere. martha: using these tactics against the people of the country, she feels. becky garrison touched on this. the president said this is tied up with a bow, just bone headed folks from cincinnati. he said it's over to bill o'reilly, move on. you say there is no investigation going on to have finished. >> none of the organizations. the ones who are my clients and

the ones who aren't my clients. nun of them have been contacted by the justice department or fine. there are hundreds of thousands of witnesses out there. after i have submitted my testimony tuesday to the committee and we had to say in advance the hearing what we planned to testify about, i had to submit it in writing. within two hours after i submitted my testimony i had my first phone call from the department of justice asking to talk too me later in the week. i'm supposed to talk to them today. but i have been very outspoken about the fact they haven't spoke on tonight victims, the witnesses and they should have started there. in may. martha: so you finally got a phone call from the department of justice. once you put it out there you were about to go in front of this committee saying this isn't over. there this is still happening. the friewms are being subjected to this kind of behavior and you

got your first phone call from the department of justice. i want to ask about another thing that happened "congressman hcongresscongressman eliza cumm. my client catherine englebrecht. congressman couple cans sent repeated letters to true the vote demanding they produce documents to him and justify the work they were doing. the organize trained people to be election poll watchers and encourages people to get involved in the elect process to insure the integ rift our elects. and true the vote began to be targeted by the left and democratic members of congress, the white house counsel bob

bower wrote a membership oh attacking true the vote. i have spoke on their national meeting. these are normal people. martha: thank you for being here, we are out of time. we are going to take a quick break and we'll be back with more. we asked people a question, how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old.

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serious criminal charges yet. [♪] gregg: the u.s. postal service considering getting into the banking business. the cash-strapped agency could rake in billions of dollars like check cashing and small loans. supporters say it's a win-win scenario but not everybody agrees. elizabeth how big is the demand for these services? >> reporter: according to this report it's quite large. the inspector general of the u.s. postal service says a quarter of all americans, 60 million, are underserved by banks. the report says banking institutions have been shutting

down branches at an accelerated rate and offering more services such as small loans, check cash and currency exchanges will complement the banking industry. it writes the average underserved household spend $2,012 each year for interests and fees for financial services. the postal service could make $9 billion a year with these additional services. their revenue dropped $5 billion last year alone. gregg: what are critics saying? >> reporter: some in the business industry say this is not the post office's turf and they should not use taxpayer dollars to start this venture. >> you can do damage when the

government gets into the financial arena. politicians are tempted to influence those financial decisions in one way or another. bad idea. because you are playing with people's financial futures. >> it's unclear whether the postal service need congressional approval. i called the post office this morning for comment but we have not heard back yet. gregg: that's consistent with the long lines at the post office. thanks very much. martha: last night was a big night for jay leno. it was his tonight show farewell. the jokes, the performances. a lot of stars showed up to wish jay well. we have it for you coming up. gregg: lawmakers questioning president obama's claims about benghazi during this interview with o'reilly.

bill: the president doesn't see benghazi or the irs screwups as important in the long as run. he sees them as mistakes.

gregg: three top republicans saying the president was not completely truthful when answering questions on benghazi. it stems from the super bowl

sit-down with o'reilly. critics say he played count attack. senators are asking when your administration knew there were no protests and your cia deputy director was informed september 15 the attacks were not an escalation of protests. did the fbi and cia not share the information with you? mary katharine ham a fox news contributor. juan williams a fox news analyst is also with us. juan, let's start with you. the president said he called an act of terrorism. he did over the course of two years four interviews. and in all of them he either said -- declined to say the was an act of terrorism or blamed it

on the video:00 tape. it doesn't add up, does it? >> to me it does. what you have here, and the president said this to bill o'reilly, the immediate reaction from the white house and general carter ham saying we have a bad situation on the ground. i think carter -- general ham says he used the word terror. the president used the word terror the next day. but it wasn't about categorizing it per se as linked to al qaeda. what the letter is saying is we think the administration is hiding something in terms of the connection to the larger al qaeda network. gregg: within 2 weeks he knew and on the view he declines to say it's an act of terror. he had an opportunity to correct

susan vice five days after the fact and he didn't do it. >> i think there have been so many investigations on this. at this point it's a political football. we have had so many investigation. newspaper, television stories. this is a political football i think people are keeping alike to hector hillary clinton. gregg: the defense secretary knew within 24 hours if not 12 hours that this was an act of terror and not a mob-related videotape. >> i think it's obvious there was down playing of the idea that this was a terror attack. susan rice could have been corrected. i'm with charles krauthammer that they are disinclined to note this was terror on 9/11

right before an election. but when it comes to all these scandals. when it comes to this stuff i think obamacare as well. he does this thing where he down play them in my view. this is the first ambassador murdered in what, more than 30 years. he said we had a bunch of hearings. moving on. it's a discussion, we had a lot of investigations because four americans died and that's why we want to get to the bottom of it. >> i looked at it again today. the o'reilly interview with the president. what popped out at me is the following. the president blames the fox news channel for the benghazi problem and he blames fox news for the rollout of obamacare. you know, is it a little undignified if not embarrassing for the president of the united states to be blaming a cable

channel for all of his woes? >> i think what he said is so often everything that happens we blame as scene outright scandal and corruption, and studentity and make it as if -- and stupidity and make it as if he's a bumbling clown. gregg: i can't think of another president who would say it's all your fault, cable channel. >> you never heard about a republican president complain about the mainstream media? gregg: in broad terms. but he didn't do it in a 15-minute interview three times with three different scandals. >> he's been doing it for years. gregg: bill o'reilly last night in his talking points ... bill: the far right is making a huge mistake thinking mr. obama

is actively trying to harm the nation. he is not. his overriding concern can be summed up in two word. "social justice." gregg: can this backfire on the far right? >> i would say this idea are harmful. we see the harm going on all the time. it's not important whether it's intentional or not. if conservatives really try to gin it up it will backfire? >> i think it's smart to address the problems and the mistakes and scandal and not get caught in obama. because he's not running again. you need to deal with the problems with his philosophy which are coming to bear quite open live. when it comes to blaming fox, this is what's wrong with president obama's presidency. he had an audience he could have tried to convince about the minimum wage. he had bill o'reilly sitting across from him who agree with

him and he didn't take that shot. gregg: thanks. martha: is russia spying on the olympic athletes in the shower? they have done thing like this before. that's one allegation in the report. tonight it's opening ceremonies. jonathan hunt joins us live. jonathon, we heard of all kind of russian spy stories through the decade really. but are they real i watching them in the showers? >> reporter: this was either a case of a russian official admitting to creepy spying or a case of lost in translation. obviously everybody is excited arriving in so chicago for the opening ceremonies in about an hour and 20 minutes time. but there have been all these complaints about hotels. then we have the deputy prime minister of russia holding this news conference in which he said the following.

we quote have surveillance video from the hotels that shows people turn on the shower, direct the nozzle at the wall and then leave the room for the whole day. so you decide what he meant by that. he was carried away from the podium as soon as he made that comment. on a far more serious security note. the tsa here has now banned liquid in all carry-on luggage on flights from the u.s. to russia. obviously picking up on that concern we reported yesterday that explosives might be smuggled on by tubes of toothpaste or hand lotion as such. so there is some serious security concerns as well as the wonder whether you are being spied upon as you shower in the morning. martha: security and spying not the only issues we are talking about this morning. >> reporter: one of the issues

leading up to the opening ceremonies today has been russia's anti-gay laws. the internet giant google making a point today on opening ceremony day by doing a doodle which supports gay rights, and the u.s. dell imaition to the olympic games includes some open live gay athletes including the former olympic champion figure skater brian batano. >> i signed on to the presidential delegation snowing it would send a message. i thought it would be a powerful message the president decided to send that i decided to come out as a gay man for the delegation. >> reporter: the competition and the opening games starts in 1 hour 0 minutes and nbc will

show it to us in 6 hours' time. gregg: a 5 day old newborn was snrached his wisconsin home as his parents were sleeping. martha: we are monitoring a massive coal ash spill from a closed power plant pouring ash into a nearby river. what a mess this is. the possible effect on the water supply is straight ahead. >> at this point in time we are confident the water is very safe and we are final eyeing some further tests. >> city officials say it's safe, >> city officials say it's safe, but i don't believe it. good, good. good over $700 billion dollars in assets under care. let me just put this away.

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martha: we are back this fox news alert as the search continues for caden powell. police say there were no signs of forced entry.

and they are currently on a frenzied search for this child. >> in this case a 5 day old baby can't take care of itself. so we have frigid temperatures out. and, you know, it's just a frantic search to try to locate this baby. martha: former nypd homicide detective bo. there were no signs of forced entry. what are the first thoughts that come into your mind. >> the four people in the house. you have see if you get inconsistencies. then you do background and see who they called and do a background and each person. a background came up someone was awested on a warrant. martha: they say that person is not a suspect.

>> but you run the backgrounds on everybody you see. then you have to find out if there is any kind of cameras in the complex or whatever. you take it like it starts from the beginning. you separate people and it's like a puzzle. i would ask would you voluntarily take a polygraph. you do that for elimination. you certainly -- you say no i want my lawyer, that person becomes a possible suspect. we know the child didn't walk out of the crib 5 days old. someone had to remove him. this remind me of when i went to colorado with that little girl, there were no footprints in the snow. the home cried detectives who

i'm sure will be involved with this will put the pieces together. you will get conflicting statement. and we'll find out. i don't think somebody just happened to be passing by at 4:00 in the morning kid. then you have got to look at the history of people around there. anybody who has mental health problems and all that. so all these pieces of the puzzle you have got to put together. eliminate and focus in on the possibilities. martha: the child is many five days old. we have seen babies stolen in hospitals by women not able to steal a child. >> maybe someone in the hospital had a miscaning and she know that baby was born healthy, followed to the house and wants that baby. there are so many motive that can come to be. the child is too young for a sex

offender. possibly the baby died in it sleep and the mother didn't know what to do. these are all thing you have to investigate. it's everyone nightmare. that's why we have a little baby you keep walking by the room. you always worry about the baby sleeping. you are watching them breathe, and i'm sure i'm just hoping this thing has a happy result. martha: it's a terrifying situation and everybody will be questioned a lot. >> you have got to see the rip of the mother, did she have another boyfriend? martha: bo, thank you very much. gregg: a star-studded farewell for jay leno. after 0 years on the air highlight from his emotional sendoff.

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gregg: you can feel it, choke up there. what a moment. going out on top. a star-studded sendoff. an emotional jay leno saying good night to "the tonight show" after two decade on the show. julie banderas is here. he will go down in history. >> it's incredible he's leaving after being number one for 20 years. he ended what is the second longest run, second only to johnny carson. leno began in 1992 and left the show in 2009 but returned next year after o'brien took over after failed ratings. his last jokes were those about o.j. simpson.

he said justin bieber wasn't even born yet when he started. he tapped billy crystal, his first guest to be his last. in crystal style he led the shut your von trapp singers. ♪ there is a sad sort of changing from the clock in the haul ♪ ♪ and the bells in the steeple, too ♪ ♪ and all the executives that run nbc are popping into say you are through ♪ >> reporter: country start garth brooks included oprah, kim kardashian and jack black. leno also passed the torch to jimmy fallon who take over the show friday. gregg: leno is still number one.

a lot of people wonder if this is a big mistake by nbc. martha: for 18 of jay leno's 22 years hosting, dave berg was a producer. he gives us an insider's pass coming up later today on "america's newsroom." it was a really funny show. really well done. it was touching and sweet. when he said his good-bye a lot of people were choked up. so many people who worked on the show over the years. dave berg is one of them. gregg: it could be the biggest obamacare delay yet. the three-year delay that could affect millions of healthcare plans. martha: the special milestone when music and pop culture changed joar ever in america thanks to these four lads from liverpool. ♪ she loves you have yeah, yeah

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martha: all right, this is a fox news alert. the white house is considering yet another delay today for obamacare, this one could be a very big deal, this delay. welcome, everybody, brand new hour in "america's newsroom." we're glad you're with us on this friday, i'm martha maccallum. gregg: and i'm gregg jarrett. officials now confirming yet another major change is under consideration. this would affect millions of americans who had their policies canceled last year only to find they were unable to sign up for new coverage on the crippled obamacare web site or they couldn't afford what was there. and now the administration is considering a plan to let individual policyholders keep those so-called junk plans for an extra three years until after the 2016 presidential election.

martha: wow. i mean, this one is a major development k. jonah goldberg is editor at large for the national review online and a fox news contributor. jonah, i mean, this looks like they don't want to deal with it. >> yeah. it's pretty astounding when you think about it. and for -- we tonight know for a fact -- we don't know for a fact they're actually going to do this, this is what some insurance company executives have heard and this is what the administration is considering. no one's announced it yesterday. it's funny, yesterday john boehner gives up on immigration reform, and he says a big reason is because no one in the republican caucus trusts the administration to enforce the laws. precisely things like this, this would be against the law just like extending the last extension of the stuff was against the law. basically, the federal government is telling state insurance commissioners do not enforce federal law. it is lawless, and it is at minimum, you know, a mixture of incompetence and political

opportunism because if they really kick this past the 2016 presidential election, this is basically obama saying i've made this huge mess, let somebody else teal with it. martha: yeah. i mean, there's so many implications if, indeed, the administration decides to go this route as you point out the insurers are suggesting that they may. i mean, they're thinking about the midterms first, jonah, right? i mean, that's the first hump they need to get over here. >> that's right. and it seems to me if this is the motivation, if it's just purely a way to sort of kick the can and avoid and help out senate democrats in vulnerable elections, it sounds to me like it's too clever by half. because the republicans still get to say, look, they screwed this up so badly that for political reasons they're kicking the can, but we already know this is what happened to people initially, it's still going to happen to you -- martha: yeah, but, jonah, a lot of people might say it hasn't hurt me, i'm okay. >> that's true. martha: and that may be,

republicans seem to be counting on this for an election issue in the midterm, and if they can put the pain off a little bit longer, it may work for them. >> look, it may be the least worst option for democrats if this is politically motivated, but i don't know that all of a sudden it puts obamacare into the big win column for the white house or for the democrats. it's still in a bad economy with all the other effects that you see from obamacare, all the turmoil that you see in the private sector with the small businessman kate still looming ahead, you know, it might help, it might alleviate the pressure, but i don't think all of a sudden the wind's at their backs or anything. martha: one more quickly for you. what about the insurance companies? what's their reaction to this? when the first delay came they said, whoa, we just sent out the letters, we came up with these new plans, and now they're hearing that it might be three years more of them trying to sort of figure out how they're going to tread water and prepare? >> yeah. look, i mean, in some ways, you know, obama's sort of been like

darth vadar saying i've amended the deal, pray don't alter any further. the secret advantage that the insurance companies have is they have these, basically, bailout provisions or risk corridors which means even if they lose money on the front end because of all this stuff, the white house -- the government will still get their back, and that, i think, is what they're counting on. martha: unbelievable. wow, what a mess. jonah, thank you. we'll see you next time. >> thanks. gregg: so far there have been 25 extensions or delays since the law first took effect. think about that, 25. the first was way back at the end of 201, there were 22 changes announced last year including delays of the employer mandate and the sign-up deadlines. all of these changes were straight from the administration itself making changes to the law without congressional consent. martha: well, these decisions affect millions of people since the exchange has opened, about three million people have enrolled in a private health insurance plan.

those are the checks that the president puts in the good box right now. but more than 6.2 million people have gotten letters saying that their insurance is canceled because obamacare made their plans illegal under the new law, and now it look like some of those may be extended as long as three years. gregg: maybe they weren't so junk after all? and another fox news alert, two straight months, two straight dismal job reports. we are awaiting white house reaction now on the so-called recovery hits a brick wall. u.s. employers adding only 113,000 jobs last month. that is way below what analysts say is needed to get the economy moving. the unemployment rate did dip last month to 6.6%, falling from a high of 10% since president obama first took office in 2009. but that's mostly because many of the unemployed are discouraged, and they have just stopped looking for work. they dropped out, they gave up. chief white house correspondent

ed henry live at the white house. ed, is there anything positive the white house can legitimately take from the jobs report? >> reporter: well, gregg, good morning. jason fuhrman, one of the president's top economic advisers, has said there are some hopeful signs. they still see the fact that over 100,000 jobs overall were created in january is, obviously, better than heading in the opposite direction. they also see some hopeful signs in the manufacturing sector. the p be going to michigan as well to sign the farm bill and try to promote some hopeful signs in the rural economy. but you're right, it's certainly lower than expected, and they put out this statement saying about the rural l economy, quote: >> r eporter: a lot of what we heard from the president in his state of the union, frankly, but the bottom line is when you

mentioned, for example, the labor participation rate, yes, it did go up just a bit, but it was of about .2% in terms of people looking for jobs. that's a paltry increase, and it's sort of a reminder of what we've seen month after month. some hopeful signs in the economy, other signs that it's still below expectations. gregg: a lot of economists say, look, you've got to add about 360,000 a month just to keep up with population growth and bring unemployment down to 6%. you also have to have double the gdp. but, look, republicans on the hill, ed, they've really been hammering the president on the economy. what are they saying about this? >> well, look, you got speaker john boehner who, as you say, for five years now, frankly, has been hitting the president hard on this issue. he's just put out a statement in the last few moments that says, quote:

>> r eporter: what boehner is referring to there is after the state of the union where the president said, look, i'll go around you on some things, work with you on others, republicans are trying to pick off issues like the keystone pipeline, more trade deals that could create jobs here in america. so far democrats are kind of split on that, and so boehner's trying to hammer that point that there's things both parties could work on to create jobs. gregg: ed henry at the white house, thanks very much. martha: well, there were some choice words allegedly made by a top american diplomat secretly recorded and leaked then on to, where else? youtube. it is said to be a call between victoria nuland and another u.s. diplomat. apparently, they were talking about the ongoing crisis in the ukraine when the voice believed to be nuland's used undiplomatic language. >> that would be great, i think, to glue this thing and have the u.n. help glue it and, you know, [bleep] the e.u..

martha: lovely, right? katherinecatherine herridge is n washington, so what is the reaction to all this this morning? >> reporter: thank you, martha, good morning. we heard from undersecretary victoria nuland, and attempting to push some of the blame onto the russians describing moscow's spying capabilities as superb. >> i'm, obviously, not going to comment on private diplomatic conversations other than to say it was pretty impressive trade craft, the audio was extremely clear. >> reporter: she mentioned nuland was speaking with another diplomat about the crisis in ukraine after its president closely aligned himself with the russians rather than the european unions. nuland's remarks seemed to express frustration with the e.u.'s lack of support for u.s. diplomatic efforts.

she dodged the question over whether it was nuland's voice on that audiotape that's making the rounds on the web. >> i'm not going to confirm or outline details. i understand there are a lot of reports out there, and there's a recording out there. but i'm not going to confirm private diplomatic conversations. i didn't say it was inauthentic, i think we can leave it at that. >> reporter: this morning the associated press is quoting an aide to russia's deputy prime minister who was one of the first people to post that audio on the web claiming that the russians had no role in identifying this conversation, martha. martha: interesting. so what's next? >> reporter: well, what's next, i think one of the basic questions is whether this is really very hard to do. nuland this morning seems to suggest this is excellent spy craft, but the intelligence officials we've spoken to here at fox say this is spying 101. when u.s. diplomats are overseas, they have to assume all of their conversations are being monitored, and this

appears it was not a secure line when she was having that conversation about the europeans. martha: yeah. it certainly appears that way. catherine, thank you very much. >> reporter: you're welcome. gregg: brand new outrage as a teenager from a very wealthy family who killed four people while driving drunk escapes all jail time. >> had he not had money to have the defense there to also have the experts testify and also offer to pay for the treatment, i think the results would have been different. gregg: his attorneys claim growing up wealthy, wealthy parents gave him poor judgment. our legal panel will debate the defense argument, and the judge's decision. plus, this -- martha: wow. outrage over a bus fare is what got people so fired up here. we're going to tell you where that's happening. gregg: and new bombshell allegations in the irs targeting scandal.

we're going to be speaking with one of the witnesses who represents 41 of the groups targeted for extra attention by the irs. >> yet even with all these known violations of the law, no one has been blamed, shamed, fired, arrested or brought to justice. and because of that i have to ask, how many people in congress are taking this seriously? welcome back. how is everything? there's nothing like being your own boss! and my customers are really liking your flat rate shipping. fedex one rate. really makes my life easier. maybe a promotion is in order. good news. i got a new title. and a raise? management couldn't make that happen. [ male announcer ] introducing fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the reliability of fedex.

martha: well, rioting so out of control in one city that the main train station had to to close down. take a look at this. police used fair gas and their batons to break up hundreds of protesters inside rio's train station. they were vexed over a ten-cent fare hike as the country is spending billions of dollars to host the world cup. ♪ ♪

>> i will continue to press in every legal way possible as i did by filing suit against internal revenue service. no american citizen should be willing to accept a government that uses its power against its own people. >> this wasn't an equal opportunity discrimination. this was targeted discrimination coming from the internal revenue service that that determination came from the highest ranks of the internal revenue service. >> so how could the president say there's not a smidgen of criminality when lois lerner ip vocked the fifth amendment, 41 witnesses haven't been interviewed including the two that have been here right mow? how can he possibly draw that conclusion? gregg: fireworks on capitol hill, to be sure, with explosive allegations about the irs targeting scandal. jay sekulow, you saw him in the second sound bite, he gave testimony at yesterday's hearing. he joins us now, executive director and chief counsel of the american center for law and justice representing 41 of the targeted groups. jay, good to see you, as always.

all right, i'm sure you saw the obama interview with o'reilly on sunday, the president sort of dismisses the entire thing as an isolated incident, boneheaded decisions by a handful of bureaucrats. isn't there an e-mail now that belies that, and what does it show? >> yeah, there is an e-mail that belies it. the president says there was not a smidgen of evidence of corruption, yet two days ago the house ways and means committee released an e-mail they got through their investigation which shows from the very highest level of the chief counsel's office, the office i used to work in of the irs, where deputy chief counsels and associate chief counsels were in communication with lois lerner to develop new rules regarding 501c4s to restrict those groups. they wanted to do what they called, quote, off plan which means off the books so it's not on the public calendar. and all of that was taking place while the targeting was going on. so this whole concept that a somehow we're dealing with a

situation, gregg, where it's, you know, just, you know, minor players, rogue agents in cincinnati, all of that proved to be incorrect. gregg: lois lerner, we're looking at her now, she infamously took the fifth, the right against self-incrimination. you know, look, people don't do that unless they're in legal jeopardy or they think they're in legal jeopardy. and yet this is heading in the direction of of no jeopardy at all. they're about to close this investigation, aren't they? >> oh, you know, the president said there wasn't a smidgen of evidence. there was a leak to "the wall street journal" that there was going to be no criminal charges, and not one of our clients or any other client that's a victim of the irs' illegal targeting has been interviewed. and, you know, the interesting thing, gregg, is the irs has admitted its wrongdoing. what they're trying to do now through these rule changes is justification for their acknowledged illegal behavior. so the reality is, look, we're in federal court on this. we're representing 41

plaintiffs. not just tea party groups, other conservative groups that were brought up in this dragnet, and the reality is at the end of the day the more information that comes out, including the information that we are now receiving with these high-level irs chief counsel involvement in this, i think this is the smoking gun in this case. and, of course, the chief counsel's appointed by the president of the united states. so the culpability here, and the president -- you know, how in the world does he know if there's a completed investigation, yet when eric holder says it's ongoing? i mean, the whole thing doesn't make sense, but i think really the political realities of this, you can look at it one way and say this was a political cover-up. legally, the irs has been caught redhanded, and the american people and certainly our plaintiffs are not taking it lying down. gregg: how is it possible that the doj and fbi could end an investigation without ever interviewing your 41 clients who were the alleged victims of what happened here? i mean, that doesn't make sense

unless, of course, it's being ended by the lawyer chief investigator who we now know is a maxed-out donor to president obama? >> yeah. because the investigation is really pretty much a sham. we didn't get contacted by the fbi until the end of december, nine months after the scandal broke. and then they said they wanted to speak to our clients in january and, of course, as we're getting this ready to set up, then it's leaked to the "wall street journal" that the criminal investigation's closed. one of my lawyers that works at the aclj who is a former u.s. attorney contacted the fbi and said, wait a minute, you want to interview our clients, it's been announced the investigation's closed. then the president says there's not any evidence of corruption, and barbara boxer -- no disrespect to her -- but she should not be the lawyer heading up this investigation. you're supposed to stay above reproach in these kind of investigations. she should have stepped aside.

i think right now, gregg, the way this moves forward is a special prosecutor. when you see these e-mails, and you put them up on the screen, when you see them and understand what's in them, you realize the highest level of the irs was conspiring with lois lerner way before the scandal broke, at least a year before the scandal broke, and what they've attempted to do now is cover their tracks while, by the way, the irs commissioner is giving bonuses for 2013 to irs employees. gregg: jay sekulow, good to see you, as always. thank you. martha: well, they took the u.s. by storm. four young lads from liverpool. can it really be 50 years since that moment? all those screaming girls going crazy when beatle mania hit america. all that straight ahead. ♪ i want to hold your hand. ♪ i want to hold your hand. ♪ i want to hold your hand. ♪ oh, please, say to me and let

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♪ ♪ martha: such an awful story. the repyred police captain accused of shooting a man in a movie theater because he was texting is back in court today. steve heir taliban's life on -- hair began's live on this in miami. >> reporter: we're likely to get a decision whether the 71-year-old former police captain, curtis reeves, will be released on bond. he's facing at least 25 years in prison on that second-degree murder charge. we're also likely to see surveillance video from at least two different angles. this should give us a clue as to what may have exactly happened before the shooting took place. reeves, of course, is claiming self-defense. was popcorn thrown in his face? perhaps another object as well, perhaps a cell phone.

this has been a very emotional process all week long. at one point reeves himself breaking down in tears yesterday as his daughter was on the stand trying to make a case for the 71-year-old was not a flight risk. martha: what a story. of such a terrible situation. so we're hearing also, steve, from a number of the eyewitnesses inside the theater, right? >> reporter: that's right. this was an afternoon showing of the movie "lone survivor" about a navy seal team operation in afghanistan. so there were just about 25 people in the movie theater. the previews were running when this all went down. now, after the shot was fired, one of the spectators, 25-year-old off-duty policeman, said that this is what reeves said after the shot was fired. >> he said, i can't -- and he pushed his glasses back. he said, and i can't, i can't believe what i've done. >> reporter: now, the off-duty policeman said also after this reeves' wife said that was no

reason to shoot somebody, whereupon reefs according to the policeman said shut your mouth, don't say another word. he added some swears as well to his wife, martha. martha: horrible, horrible story. steve, thank you for the update on that. we'll keep an eye on it too. gregg: new security concerns after the white house announces it's easing restrictions on asylum seekers with ties to terror. plus, bob costas kicking off the olympics with what some are calling a very flattering portrait of russia's president, vladimir putin. is nbc telling the whole story? ♪ ♪ (knocking) hello? hey, i notice your car is not in the driveway. yeah. it's in the shop. it's going to cost me an arm and a leg.

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alabama senator jeff sessions calls this troubling, easing restrictions on folks with loose ties to terror saying, quote: >> r eporter: a former state department official offered this assessment: >> it's not just political asylum cases. the executive order applies to all applicants for any kind of visa or between card who have -- or green card who have been identified as possibly supporting terrorism. so it really cracks that door open a lot wider. >> reporter: there's also some irritation because folks like sessions believe this is the latest example of the obama administration using its discretion to say a law passed by congress no longer applies. gregg: and who might think this is a good idea?

>> reporter: well, some argue the law unfairly blocked thousands of of refugees. democratic senator patrick leahy of vermont said deserving refugees are being barred from the united states for actions so minimal that no rational person would consider them supporters of terrorist activities. a homeland official explained to fox news tom, quote: >> r eporter: but some experts say the consequences of failure are potentially dire for public safety. gregg? gregg: mike emanuel live in washington, thank you. >> reporter: thank you. ♪ ♪ martha: heard about this one this morning? controversial commentary last night once again by bob costas as olympics kicks off on nbc.

costas described the russian president, vladimir putin, as basically a peacemaker, saying just in the past year putin brokeredded a deal to allow syria to avoid a u.s. military strike by giving up its chemical weapons, and he has repeatedly showcased his confidence to take on the west, particularly the united states. david webb joins us now, host of the david webb show, and he's a fox news contributor. richard fowler is the radio host of the richard fowler show. welcome, gentlemen. welcome to both of you. >> morning, martha. martha: this whole thing was accompanied by this very sort of almost propagandist-looking pro-putin video montage to talk about the russian leader, and, you know, obviously, you know, what most people know and understand from following the situation is that, you know, putin is the biggest backer of assad in syria. assad, you know, is said to have been, or you know, the overseer of 130,000 deaths in the recent

unrest in that country, and there's a lot more to be said about, you know, human rights issues, the gay rights issues in russia. a lot of things that bob costas could have brought up here and did not. richard, let me start with you. >> usually i do like bob costas, but this time i absolutely, completely disagree with him. i think vladimir putin has been everything but a peacemaker. he's stood in the way of progress, and beyond that fact it's not only what putin does, it's what he justifies. the atrocities to lgbtq folks in the nation of russia are absurd, and we should all speak out against this. it's similar to what's happening in uganda, and i think because of that there's no peacemaker in vladimir putin in the same sentence at all. martha: yeah. david, what do you think about what costas had to say? >> it was clearly, basically, nbc who's going to broadcast 1500 hours or so, they're playing to the problems in russia. let's not put aside what putin

in and what russia does, but first nbc's looking at the problems with journalists, the problems that are going on over there, security issues with the threats from radical muslims. yeah, putin, russia, syria, it's all about the only warm water base since the cold war, and they're backers of iran, they trade with iran which is the world's largest sponsor of state terrorism. so before you even get to human rights, you've got a broader picture of one of the world's largest if not the largest arms dealer, because they sell to everyone. they're in the business of, basically, pushing russia's interests. look at their actions, look at their involvement in the ukraine, look at -- they have edward snowden. they're running an ongoing op against the united states. martha: the president also has said some interesting comments about vladimir putin. he basically said all the macho stuff is his shtick, we have a

lot of mutual respect for each other in our discussions. very diplomatic on the president's part as well at this point. >> this is definitely a diplomatic seesaw, to say the least, and i think the president's relationship with putin at best is lukewarm. look, this president's committed to diplomacy and working and talking to people to get stuff done, and vladimir putin will do everything possible to stop the brokering of world peace including like i said earlier what happens this his own country. and i want to go back to a point that david made about human rights atrocities happening in russia. if we want to talk about what's happening in syria and iran, we also have to focus on human rights atrocities happening across the board. whether it's killing your people or persecuting folks, they're the same weight, if you ask me. >> there's so much more to this, martha, because when you look at the relationship between -- and the actions between vladimir putin and barack obama, putin clearly does not respect obama. it's kind of like the bully on

the schoolyard and the guy who has no power over him. he ignores obama, he does what he needs to do in russia or in his best interests as he sees it for russia. let's look at the actions. russia simply doesn't care. look at their actions in the u.n. barack obama -- this isn't a political seesaw battle with them on diplomacy. the president's failed foreign policy -- >> wait a second, let's not -- martha: you know what? the politics of the olympics has often brought up some, you know, conflicts and difficult situations in beijing and also in berlin over the years, so we'll watch how this plays out. but bob costas weighing in once again. he did it on gun control and the redskins, and now he seems to be promoting, to some extent, vladimir putin. >> just don't call him for political analysis. martha: thanks, you guys. >> no, never that. martha: we'll call you guys, how would that be? >> thanks, martha. gregg: no jail time, that is the punishment for a 17-year-old

accused of killing four people in a drunk driving accident. his defense? being too rich. the victims' families are outraged. >> i don't buy it. and even though he knows how to beat the game and even if he follows all the little things and jumps through the hoops and does the tricks he's supposed to do, i don't think that the world is ever going to take their eyes off of him. gregg: our legal panel weighs in on the this big case. martha: and a real milestone today. what four guys from england did 50 years ago this sunday. ♪ ♪ how could i dance with another, oh, when i saw her standing there ♪ jim, i adore the pool at your hotel. anna, your hotels have wondrous waffle bars. ryan, your hotel's robes are fabulous.

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remember i'll always be true. martha: beatle mania kicked it off with that one song, "all my loving," this sunday marks 50 years since the young lads from england came over to america, changing music in our culture really forever. you never get tired of this video, the screaming girls as they got off the plane and entered new york city. they made their first appearance in the u.s. on ed sullivan. more than 70 million viewers that night tuned into the program from home. the rest, as they say, is history. and, gregg, you said you were watching. gregg: i was 9 years old, yeah. my sister and i watched it on our only television, black and white. martha: but your dad wasn't so sure. gregg: we had to beg him for a week. he said, oh, they're a bunch of long-haired radicals, but even years later i think he came to appreciate the beatles as well. their music is timeless. martha: it is. my kids love it. i think it goes generation after generation. that's how you know something's truly a classic, and it is. they made a huge contribution to the world.

gregg: surely did. martha: well done. glad dad let you stay up. [laughter] gregg: new outrage after a texas teen kills four people in a drunk driving accident, gets no jail time whatsoever. the attorney's defense? the teen was too affluent to know any better, hence the so-called after flew wednesday saw defense. the families of the victims outraged. >> had he not had money to have the defense there to also have the experts testify and also offer to pay for the treatment, i think the results would have been different. >> no amount of money or prestige or status is ever going to grant them immunity to what they all chose for their life that caused in this to our lives. gregg: anna yum is a former prosecutor, keith sullivan a criminal defense attorney. anna, let me start with you since you're the prosecutor. you know, lady justice is supposed to be blind, balancing the scales fairly.

i think sometimes when money is concerned, lady justice peeks from underneath that blindfold. what do you think? is this the the case that proves it? >> i agree with you on that, tbregging. i absolutely do. unfortunately, in our criminal justice system there's so many disparities when it comes to the resources, race and then, of course, the eventual i caught outcome. and this judge, judge boyd, allegedly sentenced an african-american juvenile to ten years in jail when he punched someone and in one punch killed someone. so that in and of itself when compared to what's going on with this case just bolsters the position that in our criminal justice system there is a disparity based on race and resources. gregg: keith, what about that? it never works the other way, does it? poverty actually never helps the accused. >> it rarely does, gregg. but one of the people you shouldn't be outraged at is the attorney. and i know i'm going to get a lot of hate mail for having said that, but the attorney's under

an ethical obligation to vigorously represent and defend his client, and he did that here masterfully. let's take a step back here. this defense concept or theory is true listen an oversimplification of a valid condition, and they hired an expert, a medical expert who examined this kid and said, look, he suffers from personality disorder -- gregg: yeah, but a poor kid wouldn't have the wherewithal to be able to hire a topnotch expert. >> that's not accurate. a poor kid would have a court-appointed attorney, and he can go to court and ask them to -- gregg: would have to get approval and funding from the judge, and i bet -- >> i agree with you. gregg: nine out of ten judges would say sorry about that. >> i agree with you there, tbregging, on that point -- >> what i wanted to say, gregg, but this is the thing, the juvenile criminal justice system, i understand it's about rehabilitation and not necessarily retribution, but it's also about accountability here, okay?

and when you tonight have accountability, you just perpetuate the action. i don't think it should have been a mutually-exclusive type of situation where he got just rehab or jail, i think there could have been a combination of both. he can think about what he did and then address the substance abuse treatment problem that he has. i just don't think -- gregg: the judge here, and i think we have a picture of the state district judge, jean boyd. now, listen, she obviously entertained the argument by the defense of affluence, but the defense attorney said, well, she can't decide it based on that, she decided it based on rehabilitation. come on, keith, do you buy that? >> i do -- gregg: actually spinning it the same way you'd spin it. >> the word affluence was used once in the entire hearing, never by the attorney, by a mistake by the expert. he admitted that afterwards. he said it's not a term i wanted to use. gregg: forget labels, it was the content of the expert testimony of affluence that may have been the deciding factor here even

though the defense says, no, no, no. anna? >> that's absolutely right, gregg, because it was the defense's own expert who said that term. he didn't say he didn't want to use that term, he regrets using that expression, but the cop tent in and of itself was the same, the kid was so affluent -- gregg: we are way out of time. keith, anna, good to see you both. thank you. >> pleasure. martha: let's go over to jenna lee and find out what's coming up on "happening now." jenna: a major push for young people to sign up for obamacare. so far the nudes on that front not so great for the white house. plus, jon takes on the absurd lengths that some of the media are going to to ship those cbo numbers and the job numbers and health care. he has a great media panel coming up on that. also, an oscar pistorius murder trial update. they're calling his legal team the dream team in south africa, and also some new guidelines for women on strokes today.

martha: all right, jenna, thank you very much. coming up right here, jay leno takes a bow last night. of it was an emotional good-bye on his very last night after 22 years of hosting "the tonight show.." jay's legacy, next. >> boy, this is the hard part. i want to thank you, the audience. you folks have been just incredibly loyal. this is tricky. [laughter]

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♪ party rockers in the house tonight, everybody just have a good time. [cheers and applause] [laughter] martha: funny. [laughter] that is such great stuff. a political look at some of the great humor in the jay leno years. he hosted it for the last time last night. the show is signing off with a really choked-up good-bye after a 22-year run. there were star-studded guests there, of course, oprah winfrey, billy crystal. our next guest was at the show last night, dave berg, author of "the behind the curtain: an insider's view of jay leno." tell us about it last night. >> are well, it was very emotional. i have to tell you, as the show started out, i'm relating to it as a producer. i'm thinking, my gosh, this is

the best show jay has ever done. but then as the show is progressing, i'm all of a sudden, i'm also a human being. and here is jay up there tearing up, and i just, i just -- it got very, very emotional. martha: you know, there were a lot of jokes last night. billy crystal made them about the fact that jay was fired. he's made no, you know, mistake about the fact -- he hasn't hidden the fact, i should say, that he would have liked to have stayed longer. what do you think about the fact that they let him go? >> well, my feeling is that jay leno, i think they made a mistake. i believe jay leno's been at the top of his game in recent years, and he only seems to be getting better. the ratings seem to be getting better and better. i think that nbc would have been smarter to let jay do another three, four years. jimmy fallon wasn't threatening to go anywhere, and i think that should have been what they did. but it's, it's their toy, they get to play with it. martha: yeah.

you know, jay has said that he thinks jimmy fallon reminds him of johnny, and he said last night that, you know, johnny carson was the best of all at this job. do you think, do you think that's true? i mean, obviously, he's got very big shoes to fill, jimmy fallon. >> actually, with all due respect to jay, i think jimmy actually goes back to the original tonight show host, steve allen, who was not only a great comedian, but he could also perform. he was an accomplished jazz pianist. and i think jimmy ball loan is also -- fallon is also a performer. so i think jimmy goes back to that tradition. martha: there are concerns about ratings. as you point out, jay leno's been doing fantastic and was at the top of his game. why do you think nbc has had this sort of preoccupation with succession, and it blew up in their faces the last time around, and some people think it could happen again. >> i just think that nbc may

have been influenced by the critics a little bit, that jay was just sort of milk toast, jay was bland, and i think they never really had faith in him despite the fact that for almost a decade he has been number one. and i think there's a little bit of that going on. they just didn't have the faith in him. they didn't see the show the way he did. he valued the audience. martha: what do you think the country loses in losing jay leno in terms of a voice in late night? >> i think that jay leno carried on the great tradition started by johnny carson which is when you do a monologue, you go after whoever's in power. it doesn't matter who it is. and so the last few years he's been leading the way with the barack obama jokes when his colleagues in late night, none of them had been doing it until just -- martha: i gotta go, dave. we're going to get cut off. you know, you're a producer.

thank you, sir, what a pleasure to have you here. we'll be right back, everybody. >> thank thank thank you.

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martha: thanks for being here, gregg. always good to have you. bill will be back on monday. we wish everybody a fantastic weekend. >> "happening now" begins right now. jenna: right now breaking news on at that's top headlines and brand new stories you will see here first. jon: raising terrorists. the alarming details we're learning about very young children who could grow up to become the next generation of al qaeda. who is spinning what? a fair and balanced look on the explosive cbo report on the obamacare's impact on jobs. "blade runner", prepares for his trial in march. meet the dream team olympic runner oscar pistorius is hiring to defend him. it is all "happening now." jenna: but our top