>> something else. >> no art. >> tomorrow don't forget, john stossel will be here and we have the newest heart throb from "downton abbey." >> love affair of steve doocy as he puts his father to rest today conditions and it may live up to the hype. a massive ice storm slamming the southeast. we have thousands of flights canceled in north carolina and atlanta in hartsfield international. and we are just getting rolling with this thing. good morning. i'm bill hemmer and welcome to america's newsroom. martha: we had days of warnings. tons of preparations.

last time it didn't go so well if you remember. here is the headline of "the atlanta general constitution," "bracing for the worst." how is it look this morning, jonathon. >> reporter: i know this route is familiar to you, the downtown connector. normally at this hour it would be back to back with cars. but now it looks like a ghost town. officials telling people unless you have to be on the roads, much safer to be at home. but they have done a good job keeping the lanes opens. there are some overpasses and bridges which are inevitably icing over. we are standing on the 17th street overpass and there is ice forming here.

sleet has been pelting us all morning so conditions condition to worsen. but the good news. most people heeding the warnings, staying off the roads and interstates and that's avoiding the horrible bottlenecks we experienced two weeks ago. bill: the power, what is the update you have there? >> the numbers keep going up. 55,000 customers statewide * according to georgia power and those numbers went up from 22 hours just an hour ago. with all of this sleet coming down, freezing rain. ice forms on not only the power lines but the trees that drop branches on to power lines.

even with underground power lines, they are connected to the areas with the above-ground power lines. people need to be repaired to go without power for several days without power. bill: leading our coverage in downtown atlanta. martha: to give you an idea how large this storm is. check out the map. it's a huge band that goes all the way across the south and the lower portion of the northeast from texas to the carolinas and it's expected to arrive in the northeast late tonight into the overnight hours. some areas could see up to a foot of snow. so some context on this storm. governors in 7 states declared a state of emergency. 300,000 homes in georgia are expected to lose power. nearly 2,700 flights already

canceled today. that's most definitely expected to go up and will probably climb you will the east coast as well. hartsfield, atlanta is the busiest airport in the world. bill: which means ripple effects. alabama is also hit hard. the entire northern half of the state is shut down. they are seeing ice build up on power lines and cars. the governor declared a state of emergency. we'll talk to him next hour. the storm is on the move. the northeast is next and we'll talk to the national weather service as to what we can expect today, tomorrow and the day after that, when the national weather service put out that warning, used the language that it used, they were clearly trying to get attention of a lot of people and it appears they

have. martha: i think storm number 5 we have dealt with in this kind of stuff that makes people stay home and miss school and for those of us who work here. just so you can get back and forth. bill: and dream about spring. martha: fox news alert as we get ready to spend some more money in washington. the house passed the debt ceiling hike. the senate is expected to pass it today before it land on the president's desk. our nation's debt stand at $17.3 trillion. but what's a trillion here or there. it grows of second. why do so many republican leaders jump on board after promising they would not keep kicking the debt can down the road. >> he's the one driving up the debt. the question they are asking is why should i deal with his debt

limit. the fact is we'll let the democrats put the votes up, the president driving up the debt and the president wanting to do nothing about the debt that's occurring will not engage in our long-term spending problem. so let his party give him the debt ceiling increase he wants. martha: it's your problem, you deal with it, basically. stuart varney joins us. this is surprising to a lot of people. republicans all along said no way we won't sign debt ceiling limits. now they are singing a different tune on this. >> reporter: a lot of republicans put conditions on the debt ceiling deal. but there weren't enough votes to get it passed. so john boehner went with a clean bill. this means no confrontation in

congress been the democrats, the republicans and the white house. the government has a blank check to spend whatever congress authorizes him to spend all the way through 2015. wall street loved it. the dow industrials went up close to 200 points and will be over 16,000 points this morning. martha: when you look at this it takes the debt ceiling issue off the table. you are wondering if the democrats are look at the ease with which some this passed. >> reporter: some democrats are unhappy with what happened, they were hoping the republicans would be obstructionists and that would give them a nice issue in the next election.

many republicans are happy, they wanted to cut spending. now they have an open field. no confrontations. that means the elections will be focused on obamacare, that's a negative for democrats and a positive for republicans. bill: president obama defending another delay in the employer mandate. there have been so many changes. nearly 30 delays and extensions and critics argue the president is abusing his power. >> how can a president that puts his hand on the bible and takes an oath to uphold the laws of the united states do this? what authority does he have to do that. the truth is he has no such authority. >> the president says he has a pen and cell phone. but the american people have a constitution, and the

constitution doesn't give hip the authority to unilaterally change the law. he has to come to the congress to do that. >> reporter: republican scepticism grows by the day over whether the administration will fully enforce of any law. martha: this is very important this morning as well. the statement is al qaeda who we were told was on the run during the presidential elections appears to no longer be on the run. that's according to national intelligence director james clapper. he testified al qaeda is be >> is al qaeda on the run? >> it's morphing itself here and other parts of the world. martha: he said in africa there is a perfect storm of conditions

for these groups to thrive and develop. there is always this tendency to separate the word al qaeda from other extremist groups around the world. and clapper clearly linked them. and that's a different narrative than what we heard from the white house. bill: he was asked point blank if died p -- if al qaeda was on the run and he said no it is morphing. we'll explore that. is there a new assault on political speech in new acue sayings the government is d new acue sayings the' government is going after conservative groups. >> you can no longer engage in voter registration and voter education. that's just wrong. martha: it takes more than a bike to get away from a cop.

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bill: lawmakers are trying to black an attempt by the irs to limit conservative groups. they say the obama administration is doing this as a blatant attempt to see you excellence political speech. can you prove the targeting of conservative political groups is still happening today? >> we don't know. but we know there were of the groups that were targeted, of those that were audited. 100% of them were conservative groups. i believe they are twaik they were doing informally and making it into a rule. that's whyee we need to -- that's why we need to delay it. they only went after social well

ware. they only limited the political activity of the groups they targeted. we need to delay this. complete the investigation. we don't have all the document we requested from the irs. let's put this out past the election. bill: one of the document that came up two weeks ago when lois lerner was copied on one of the amendments. don't know who in your organization is keeping tabs on c4s, but since we mentioned potentially addressing them off plan i have got my radar up and this seemed interesting. that phrase "off plan" what does that mean? >> they started limiting these groups years before they said they did.

they said they needed to do this because of confusion about the law which came as a result of the former commissioner's report. they started limiting these groups much sooner than they had really let us know. so this email tells us they were trying to do it in secret and they did it long before they said there was a need to. this is something they have been after for quite some time. the targeting within the agency was icing on the cake and more of the same. bill: in this measure went for yesterday, what would that do in the end? >> it would prevent them from finalizing the rule for a year. right now it's just a proposed rule. they are getting 23,000 comments. and once they get those comments it's up to treasury when they final eyed the rule. what this does is says wait spa year. we don't say never do it. we say wait a year.

that will give us time to complete our investigation in the committee. the treasury inspector general has not completed his investigation either. there is information we need to finalize before they start moving forward with law making. this has the effect of law. bill: are you saying that unions can still organize% usual for elections today? >> absolutely. they do nothing to change the fact that unions can engage in political activity. they only go after organizing 501c5s. they only goat after c4 groups which are social welfare groups. many of them are small groups under $5,000. they don't touch charitable groups or chairman weres of commerce. they only go after this one particular section. that doesn't look like and we

need to delay it. bill: the treasury department says they are trying to clarify vague rules. what do you think about that? >> the law has been the law for 50 years. our investigation has shown there is no confusion about the law. what they want to do is prevent people from exercising their constitutional rights. again this didn't start in cincinnati, it was in washington, d.c. lots of things they put out have been inaccurate and this was as well. >> reporter: appreciate your time in trait, sir. thank you. martha? martha: an average morning commute takes a deadly turn. see what happens when a bus hits a truck and flies into a construction site. that's a live ongoing situation. bill: a study raising questions about the value after mammogram. a member of our fox news medical a-team will tell us what we need to know about that.

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90,000 women for 25 years. breast cancer is the second most common breast cancer in women in the united states with 3 hi battling this -- 3 million battling this disease. many doctors recommend women have a mammogram every year. martha: i have had a lot of breast cancer in my family. i have friend who were just diagnosed in the last two weeks by mammograms. i can't understand why they would recommend against not getting mammogram. >> i agree with you. but i wouldn't want to dismiss this research out of hand. it seems to show there is not big survival advantage. you might live just as long if

they found your breast cancer by feeling your breast as opposed to the mammogram. it's only about how long you live. it isn't about what your life is like. i ask woman out there. would you want to know or not want to know. it's 80% to 90% effective. we find it early it can be dealt with. most women i know would want to get rid of it if they could. martha: you look at a womb what who got her mammogram on

television and they spotted cancer. >> one out of 424 women go on to unnecessary treatments. martha, i'll tell you what the problem is. that's not the mammogram's fault. that's the doctor's fault. i usually send women for essential mammograms. don't just go knee jerk to a biopsy and treatment. you can't blame a mammogram if women are getting unnecessary treatment. you can only blame doctors for that. if you have a woman get the best you can find. martha: if they say this is cancer and we would like to do a biopsy and remove it. >> another point is the

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bill: fox news alert. they are losing power by the hour. that massive winter storm hitting parts of the southeast. that's downtown atlanta. that's a ghost town at morning rush hour. people heading the warnings, they are staying home and staying off the road. how are you, doctor.

good morning to you. i want to use a few of the phrase you guys used yesterday. catastrophic, crippling, pair liegs, choose your and tough. choose -- choose you're anyour sdjetive.why so strong? >> the storm is developing and given the amount of ice that's being predicted. 3/4 to 1 inch of ice, this is going to be a storm that for that particular area is of historical proportions that people have to be prepared for. bill: do you think two weeks ago people did not listen to you so the language had to be stronger to get their attention? >> the decision process is something we continue to work with the state officials on, and

i think you saw the result with this particular event. they know you have to get ahead of the storm. and when the storm can be of such great impact, the messaging had to reflect what we were predicting. bill: today you are predicting the for whom? >> from an ice perspective, from an area near atlantic, southeast of atlantic through central south carolina to north carolina is particularly note worthy with respect to the ice forecast. and warnings. and then then the snow aspect takes over tonight as this storm head up the coast. so virginia, maryland, up toward eastern pennsylvania, new york. the real tricky part of the forecast for tomorrow is the rain-snow line for the major. areas. and we are trying to handle that carefully. there could tab changeover to

relationship along the coast and backing in toward the 95 corridor. bill: it will be with us for a couple days. >> reporter: today the ice in the southeast. tonight into early tomorrow the snow coming up the coast will be the big story. bill: thank you very much. it's great to have you on today. i want to get the word out to folks today. what are you have seeing. send us pictures from the storm and send us a tweet @billhemmer and martha maccallum. a lot of folks coming in already, places where you do not see white. and it's covered all over the place. bill: we would like to see it but stay safe. martha: giving ex-cons their voting rights back. that debate is raging after

attorney general eric holder says convicted felon should eventually get back their right to vote which he believes will stop them from committing more crimes and getting thrown back in jail. >> these are not only unnecessary and unjust, they are counter productive. these laugh increase the likelihood that they will commit future crimes. martha: joining us now anow alan colmes, and jack kemp. is eric holder right about that? does it make sense on both of those counts? >> i like what he just said. it gives people a sense of dignity. if you have done your time for the crime you deserve to be integrated back into society. i'm not talking about violent crimes. we are talking about crimes that

are not violent. if you are african-american and get disparate treat the from the justice system. >> for the most part this is a soap box. these are state laws. most states have mechanisms by which felons can reapply for voting rights and voting privileges. the reality is only 9 states haver. nanlt restrictions. and they are for real serious violent felons. there are many people in america agree if you are a non-violent felon who had good behavior in prison, you should have a way back into the process of voting. governor mcdonald did that in the commonwealth of virginia. it's a reasonable position. but holder's remarks seem to go

further. >> mcdonald was probably thinking about himself. it should be done at a federal level as well. there are federal crimes that fall under the category of felonies. and they ought to have the same opportunity. >> this idea alan introduced and it's a right one, this disproportionately affects african-americans. but this isn't going to help them. what will help them is what governor christie is doing in knowledge and governor kasich doing in ohio. you are seeing governors from both parties address these mandatory sentences that relegate people for drug-oriented crimes to a life of being a convicted felon. martha: tony, you are concerned

eric holder may be including some serious felony the in this category. tell me about that. >> as alan indicated. there is a consensus position if you are a non-violent offender you should be put in this category of having voting privileges. eric holder's remarks went beyond that. he didn't get too specific. but he made a blanket case that it's a violation of someone's civil rights that they are a if he wil --they are a felon and ce participating in voting activity. >> we agree on that. martha: that's where we'll leave it. along, we'll see you next time, guys. bill: and i olympic first on the slopes. spoiler alert. if you don't want to know what happened before you see it later

on tv. now is a good chance to get another cup of coffee. you have been warned. we have a tie in the women's down hill. it has never happened before in alpine skiing. skiers from slow scree from slod switzerland tied for the gold. no silver medal was award. that's kind of cool. the disappointing performance by american shaun white. he hit the edge on the pipe. look how that board bend. that's the amount of force was coming down with. he was trying to be the first american to win the gold in three consecutive winter

olympics. 7 medals overall and two gold for the americans in so chicago. martha: some say he's like sampson. he cut his hair and his power went with him. i think he looks better. bill: he's a good looking guy but he doesn't look like that tomato thing anymore. march very congress to pass an tension on the debt limit as the director of the cbo warns the growing debt can lead the country into fiscal crisis. they warn and warn and warn about that. bill: the raging debate whether obamacare is fair to all americans. bill o'reilly raising the question why do working americans have to pay for others not to work. the simple question becomes is that fair? talk can points has no problem

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martha: this robbery suspect trying to peddle his way out of trouble. this police officer comes out of nowhere and tackles him like a linebacker. >> i'm not letting go and i did everything i could to keep that die subdued. the bottom line, that police officer puts his butt on the line every day and i'm going to help. martha: the officer suffered some bruise on his face and hand. but he got his man.

nice tackle! martha: good help from the pedestrian as well. go, team. bill: a dire prediction from the director of the budget office telling congress the $17 trillion debt could mean some day financial disaster if you don't do something about it now. >> such large and growing federal debt could have serious economic consequences restraining economic growth in the long term, giving lawmakers less flexibility to respond to fiscal chang challenges. bill: how you doing there in nashville. that's a picture behind you. not a window. what did he say that was positive? >> he said we are in deep trouble on the debt which is

very positive. seeing the cbo recognize it is wonderful. it's a very, very serious problem and he made it very clear. >> he said you will less flexibility to respond to unexpected challenges. that's got to scare the daylights out of economists because that means you have fewer arrows in your quiver when the disaster hits. >> our reserve will be limited because our debt is so large already. and that's really true. what he did last week, he was the one who said to obamacare was going to cost 2.5 million jobs. they are getting a very good job done at the cbo. i'm very proud wafd they are doing. bill: how, when, who take us out of this? you suave the vote yesterday in the house. the republican leadership in the house voted with democrats to extend the debt limit for another year. there are a lot of republicans

who voted no. how do you see that vote going? >> i thought it was terrific. there is no way we are not going to raise the debt ceiling. the question is are we going to shut down government then have every republican lose in november? i think john boehner did a perfect job. he allowed almost all the republicans to vote noeth kit was passed through and it took away a political weapon obama and the democrats could use in november. they have got to run on obamacare. that's their baby. they have got to run on it and it's the bill that's passed in generations. bill: that's what the republican position would be. he said what happens when debt is equal to 79% of gdp? 79% of your gross domestic product. >> the last time it was anything like this was right after world war ii when we would be running

surpluses like mad. it's even worse than it was after world war ii it's substantially worse because what he haven't gotten the problem under control. that we need to do with a low rate flat tax. free trade and minimal mall regulations and get the government the heck out of the way. bill: who is going to do that? >> when the republicans take the senate i think they can put enormous pressure on president obama. and then 2016. it could well be a pro growth democrat. jack kennedy was one of the best presidents ever. bill clinton was phenomenal. i voted for bill clinton twice. it's not republican or democrat. it's doing sound fiscal policy. flat rate tax, minimal regulations, get the government out of the way. bill: it was a somebodier

performance. >> he laid it out clearly and that's his job. bill: that's why we brought you upon. enjoy the ice. be careful. martha: a desperate plea to 911 for help after a serious case of road rage. >> he hit me three times now and here he comes again. he just it me four times now. martha: a father's fight to protect his daughter from another driver. bill: he's the top dog. you are wondering what makes this wire terrier the best in show. martha: just ask hip, he will tell you. [ male announcer ] if shaving is a pain in the neck,

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out in north carolina. >> i have got a guy that's following me and he rear ended me and now he's following me again. oh, my god. he just hit me again. martha: can you imagine? what happened then? >> reporter: the 911 calls paint a terrifying picture of what this father went through as was trying to protect his teenage daughter and himself on a driver who seemed hell bent on causing them harm. >> he just broke my window. i'm freaking. he's trying to kill us. in these tapes just released. you can hear the father bleeding

the 911 operator as his vehicle is being rammed. >> he hit me thee times and here he comes again. he just hit me four times now. report report police tell fox he found just the right moment for his daughter to run into the whole food store only to have the driver chase after them. martha: is this random? why did he come after them in the first place. >> a police officer says it appears random but the investigation is ongoing. he add that gagnon was later taken to a local hospital and is currently in an undisclosed medical facility for now. police say he's facing two

counts assault with a dangerous weapon. and two counts of simple assault after he kicked a ems worker and bit a firefighter at the scene. the father and daughter who were shaken by the attack were not physically injured. bill: you can hear that screaming. massive winter storm battering the southeast. a live look at greeneville county, south carolina. it's along interstate 0. the store is far from over. the governor of alabama, we'll talk to him in a moment. an update from the national weather service on what you need to know as millions are in the line of this storm. that wothat's correct.a rate. cause i'm really nervous about getting trapped. why's that? uh, mark? go get help!

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martha: now a massive winter storm, another one is now crippling states across the south, knocking out power to thousands. canceling thousands of flights today. travel is extremely dangerous out there at this point as we welcome you to hour two now of

"america's newsroom." glad to have you with us, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. they warned us about this. forecasters are warning the worst is yet to come. heavy snow and thick ice, howling wind and freezing rain battering states from texas into the carolinas. more than 50,000 customers without power already, just in georgia that is. folks are being told to get somewhere safe and plan on staying there for a while. martha: enough already, right? steve centanni is at reagan national. we start with maria molina and get the latest update where this thing is headed and when. hey, maria. >> hey, martha. i want to show you the setup in the southeast. why we're expecting significant ice accumulation across the states of georgia into the carolinas. we have cold air across the surface and moving so you ward from virginia all the way into the state of georgia. you have the northmoisture moving northward, and the

precipitation falls it freezes on ground contact with atlanta, columbia, charlotte and even up into raleigh. we have freezing rain reported in city of atlanta. look at that. in charlotte light snow has started. we have the storm system hitting the area really hard right now. we've received reports already a tenth of accumulation of ice accumulation in parts of georgia and quarter of an inch of ice. today the storm system will hit parts of the southeast very hard. by wednesday at 10:00 p.m., parts of the mid-atlantic starting to see the snow. the storm heads north impacting northeast throughout the day on thursday and by friday, early morning we expect the snow to be coming down across portions of new england. along coastal areas you could see a little bit of a mix. that could lower down the snowfall accumulations. i want to first show you the ice totals, half an inch and inch of ice. that is why they're calling this catastrophic across georgia and

carolinas. six to 12 inches of snow across the higher elevations of appalachians. here is the forecast for northeast. new york city, five to 10 inches of snow. philadelphia, six to 10. sit. back to you. martha: certainly is. thanks, maria. bill: we're just learning that 79,000 customers now without power in georgia. on the phone brian greene from georgia power. brian, good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: 79,000 customers. that means more people living in that house are without power. the update now is what, sir? >> we're sitting at about 79,000 customers out statewide in georgia. the storm rolled through pretty quickly here in atlanta this morning. we went from about 3,000 to about 79,000 customers in a matter of about two to three hours. so it is definitely having an impact that the forecasters warned us it would have. bill: the problem, brian, again, is the heavy snow or even the

ice, it weighs down on the mitres and mitres take down power lines. >> that's correct. bill: is that what you're experiencing? >> yes, that's correct. the mitre limbs coming down on power lines will get us in the most trouble the quickest. now as the storm continues throughout the morning and rest of the day, we will have to worry about ice accumulations. we'll do best to get power on as best as we can. bill: you prepositioned trucks in several states at atlanta motor speedway. >> that's right. atlanta motor speedway one side of at landedta. we had crews staged in athens, augusta, make conn, as well. bill: do you think you took it seriously two weeks ago? >> yes. we prepared for this type of

storm throughout the years. we were prepared at georgia power to respond two weeks ago. we had minimal outages due to that storm but we took that event serious and we're definitely taking this event just as serious. bill: a lot of that was on the road. you're right about that, brian. looking at radar, north of atlanta, up near the tennessee border where a lot of snow and hard weather is going to comeso. >> thank you. bill: brian greene, i know you're busy. thank you for your time sir. much appreciated. >> you're welcome. bill: martha. martha: thousands of flights have been already canceled all across the nation. travelers are stranded at airports trying to make the best of another bad situation this winter. >> everything going into atlanta has been shut off, canceled. >> i'm a little concerned about friday. hopefully the airport will stay open and won't be too much. >> it is understandable. weather will be weather. it is unpredictable, and if you're caught in the middle of it is a little frustrating. martha: people seem to take it

in stride so far. steve centanni at rage ban national in arlington, virginia where the weather hasn't been hit yet but there is ripple effect with the flights canceled down south, right, steve? >> reporter: absolutely right, martha. if you're in places in the southeast, atlanta, charlotte, trying to get somewhere because you might as well wait another day they're pretty much locked down. airports down there heavily affected by ice and snow. this is washington reagan national airport where i'm standing. things are normal, calm before the storm of preparations are underway for what could be a major snow event. we have a little chart we can show you of the cancellations already today. there have been 2982 cancellations already. cancellations yesterday, 1300. cancellations tomorrow, preemptive cancellations 1100. cancellations this week, 854. in atlanta hartsfield and charlotte is where they're hardest hit right now.

60% of the flights in atlanta have been canceled. 50% of those in charlottes. those are major airline hubs. atlanta for delta and charlotte for us airways. the airlines waived change fees. go ahead and change and make it convenient and possible to get where you're going. probably will not happen today if you're not southeast, martha. martha: wow, steve, thank you very much. more on that to come. thanks, steve. bill: what does it look like outside your window, huh? take us a picture, send us a photo. tweet to @billhemmer and @marthamaccallum. we'll show you them later in the show. getting a lot of shots already. there is white stuff on the ground. martha: tomorrow we can take our own pictures and poet them ourselves. bill: stay tuned. martha: new york city has its own plan on immigration reform. mayor bill de blasio making a lot of headlines since he became mayor. he is announcing a propositively to provide i.d. cards to all new yorkers regardless of your legal status.

including undocumented immigrants, he also wants them to have i.d.es. watch. >> to all of my fellow new yorkers who are undocumented, i say, new york city is your home too and we will not force any of our residents to live their lives in the shadows. martha: chris stirewalt, fox news digital politics editor and host of "power play" on foxnews.com. the biggest city in the country is now a sanctuary city sounds like, chris. >> defacto sanctuary city. i wonder, preferred euphemism among democrats and liberal democratic larly undocumented workers. once you do when they have documentation, do you call them illegal immigrants? martha: i'm interesting. >> i'm not sure. mayor deblasio is symbol for far left and elizabeth warren they

want to see their party embracing to build on president obama's liberalism. the core of that is taking executive action in order to legalize illegal immigrants. if de blasio can make it stick in new york city, not only is it a model for the rest of the country but talking about a lot of individuals who will now have government-issued i.d. cards in these united states. martha: yeah. and perhaps they would have to use them to vote because that is an issue that people like mayor deblasio have been very much against much. it is hard to reconcile those two things, is it not. >> hard to rec same these things but we get a picture where the democratic party is going on issue of illegal immigrants. where they're going, if they can't get republicans to come across with some sort of a bill that provides legalization or amnesty or something, they're just going to do it. deblast i don't carry as a lot of -- deblasio carries a lot of

clout. if he can pull it off there, that will push other democrats especially the president of these united states to do it himself. he said he will do executive action maybe something like the deblasio administration in new york. martha: some of these groups affected by these issues did not come out for republicans last time around that. is something that republicans are trying to fix. this sort of pushes the envelope even more. chris, we will see. thank you very much. >> you betcha. martha: visit our politics page and sign up for chris's daily political newsletter. go to foxnews.com/foxnewsfirst. bill: nine minutes past the hour now. a raging battle over obamacare and culture of entitlement. democrats are saying it's a good thing that millions of americans will stop working or will work less because they will still have a health plan and be able to focus on their, well their dreams and fashions in life. bill o'reilly has a problem with that. >> the problem is that you and i, working americans, will have

to pay for that passion. so the simple question becomes, is that fair? bill: well new hampshire senator kelly ayote will respond in a minute. martha: a violent collision between a bus and a truck leaves at least one person dead this morning. we'll take you there and show you what happened. bill: also high-tech, a real-life "robocop" helping injured officers and veterans return to duty. ♪

bill: check out this moment in new york city earlier today. a bus and a box truck collide, barrel into scaffolding of a building. the bus driver is dead and four others are injured, two of them critically. it happened in a busy part of greenwich village, downtown manhattan.

the box truck believed to have been stolen and driver who suffered minor injuries is being questioned. it's a mess. >> -- have freedom to be a writer, to be a photographer, to make music, to paint. people would no longer job locked by their policy but have the, freedom to follow their passion. martha: raging battle over the impact of obamacare on american jobs. non-partisan congressional budget office reported that millions of americans will choose to work less or not to work at all to keep themselves under the threshold so they can have the subsidies that they want to cover their health care. democrats like nancy pelosi are saying that she believes that is a good thing, that it will give americans the freedom to follow their dreams and not worry about whether or not they have health care coverage. but bill o'reilly feels a bit differently. here's what he said. >> the problem is that you and i, working americans, will have to pay for that passion.

so the simple question becomes, is that fair? talking points has no problem paying for safety net entitlements and as you may know we give away millions of dollars to the poor but now i'm being asked to pay for somebody's, passion, by supporting their, health insurance. martha: how about that? new hampshire senator kelly ayote was at yesterday's budget committee hearing. she asked the cbo director about his report on obamacare and the labor market and she joins me here today. good to have you here today. >> good to be here, martha. martha: doug elmendorf has been very specific about the impact of this. yesndeed it is a disincentive to work and incentive to work less in order to maintain your benefit level, right? >> well the cbo report essentially says that fewer people will be in the workforce and some of them will work less hours. yesterday i asked him specifically, what about the incentives towards upward

mobility? he said essentially the subsidies could provide a disincentive to upward mobility because it will cause people to worker hours or work not as as hard in those hours. in other words the president talks about income inequality but here we have the cbo director saying that this could be a disincentive to upward mobility. in other words, maybe i don't want to work harder in that position or to take that promotion because of the subsidies and the disincentives that are created under the obamacare. so it is really troubling i think for the country and i think that bill o'reilly has an excellent point. martha: what do you say to those who listen to nancy pelosi and say, you know what? she's right. there are moms who may be wouldn't have to work if they weren't concerned about their work, you know, their health care plan that is attached to their job and they could stay at home and those who she also points to who want more freedom to pursue other things? they would have some sort of portability essentially which is

something essentially a lot of republicans argued for in their health care plan. >> i'm all for portability but you don't have to do that with the way obamacare is structured which actually gives people less choice because you have to have the mandated plan that the government says. in a state like mine in new hampshire on the exchange, 10 of the 26 hospitals are excluded. frankly there isn't kind of portability that republicans are talking about we want for people in the workforce and ultimately if we're in a situation where less people participate in the labor force or work less because of the structure of this law, this diminishes the economic strength of the country. so this is really troubling issue i think and then with this issue of upward mobility, you know we want to encourage people to strive for more in this country. that is what the american dream is about and have the director of the cbo office say yesterday that these, these subsidies essentially could be a disincentive to that upward mobility i think it's the wrong direction for america. martha: i want to pull up a quote from mark stein, who is a

conservative writer and he says, work and purpose are intimately connected. researchers at the university of michigan for example found that welfare payments make one unhappier than a modest income honestly earned and used to provide for one's family. it drains too much of the life from life. that was according to charles murray in a speech he gave in 2009 and was quoted by mark stein in that piece. what do you think about that, senator? >> the american dream, people work hard. they succeed, they can move upward and people really get satisfaction out of earned success and opportunity in this country and so i really fundamentally believe that this idea that people don't, you know, want somehow to work and to get that earned success and have opportunity really defies the american dream. martha: senator ayotte, thank you very much. always good to talk to you. we'll see you soon. >> great to talk with you. bill: democrats have been leading the charge making sure everyone gets a fair shot but

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bill: we are learn more about a mail bomb delivered to an elderly couple's home east of nashville, tennessee. the package exploded late on monday killing a 74-year-old retired lawyer. his name is john setzer and critically injuring his wife. she is in the hospital. investigators are ruling out accidental causes but not saying if the couple was a target or not. >> we're not saying this is isolated but we're also not wanting the public to panic. carrying that safety message, if you receive something that is suspicious, that is not expected, make those phone calls. let us make sure you don't have an issue. bill: jonathan gilliam, a former fbi special agent with the joint terrorism task force and navy seal and federal air marshal. you've done everything, jonathan. good morning. >> good morning. bill: take us through the investigation and you look at this man and his wife. >> right. bill: and his life defined what? >> they will look for patterns

or somebody who may have had a vendetta against him. they talked about some civil liabilities that he handled in the past but he has been retired for a while. so obviously if you, the way they described him in modern days,'s not really that bad of a guy. actually he is a really good guy. i'm not saying that he was bad before but attorneys sometimes deal with bad people or on the other side there might have been somebody who had a vendetta. they will look back at those type of things to see if there any correlation. bill: we're assuming he was the target in all this. we don't really have a firm idea whether or not that is the case. there will be forensics left over too. where do you start with that? >> first and foremost they need to look where the package came from. there have been times packages are sent to the wrong person. was it sent, i'm not privy to this yet, was it sent or hand-delivered. bill: why would that be important? >> because you can trace things back through the post office you

might not be able to hand delivered. ted kaczynski delivered some and mailed some as well. bill: interesting. >> right. bill: is this sophisticated bomb? does it take a while to figure out how to do it? >> you need to train to learn how to use any of these explosives like something the boston bomber used or ted kaczynski used or in this case this homemade bomb. bill: it doesn't -- >> it doesn't take a lot of skill but take as lot of practice and you can kill yourself in making these. that is evident in iraq. that just happened. over 20 guys were killed when they were doing a course, teaching al qaeda how to make bombs. bill: i guess the other thing you have to figure out whether there are more bombs in the system? >> that's correct. so there has been through the -- throughout the past couple years there have been over 20 of these bombings, not necessarily related but over 20 mail package bombs. what they will look back in all these bombs and this one in

particular now are there any telltale signs? there are parts of bomb may or may not go high order. they go low order. there are things left over. many cases have been solved because something had a cereal number or there is a telltale sign how they were made and they can build a pattern. bill: what they won't tell us what kind of a package it is. this is now day three of this mystery. quickly. >> if you had federal investigators there from atf and fbi. they have records of these things. that may be one of the reasons why they're not announcing that. bill: that is a great point. jonathan, good to get your expertise here. >> my pleasure. bill: martha, what's next? martha: it is being called a catastrophic storm. we're watching it all morning. it has paralyzed parts of the country already. the worst is yet to come we're told. the south is dealing with crippling snow. really it is the ice that is the big problem. bill: martha, in the town of bedrock fred flintstone used to use this big guy to take a shower. a discovery could shed light on the stone age wooly mammoth.

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bill: couple of alerts for you now. want to take a live look at raleigh, north carolina. the governor pat mccrory is giving update on preparations

ahead of the big storm in north carolina. the radar shows it dipping into the southern part of that state. northern alabama, weather service says parts of that state could see more than a foot of snow on the frowned by the time this storm is over. that is northern alabama, possibly 12 inches of snow. the governor is robert bentley. he is with us now live out the montgomery. good morning to you. what do you know about what's happening there? >> well, good morning, bill. things are a little better today than we originally anticipated. the temperature is slightly warmer than we thought it was going to be. we still have some dangerous situations up in the northeastern part of the state. we'll just wait and see how it transpires today. bill: i see. do you think you will get a foot of snow, governor, or not? >> well we don't know yet. we'll have to wait and see how the temperatures drop tonight and as the moisture wraps back around as this front goes through, we'll just have to wait and see. but we have a lot of moisture in the state.

we had a lost moisture that came through last night. we just have to wait and see tonight. temperatures are slightly warmer. bill: what do you think about the ice, sir? is it an issue for you in alabama or not? >> well, this time around, unlike, january of the 28th, it has not been quite as bad. we have had a thin sheet of ice in the north central part of the state but it is not quite as bad as it was on the 28th. bill: what did you think when the national weather service talked about catastrophic and crippling and paralyzing, an event of historical proportions, went on to say, choose your adjective what did you think of that, governor? >> well i think we need to be prepared and in alabama we have been prepared. we were actually prepared on the 28th of january. you know, meteorology is science is just not an exact science and sometimes they miss the line of where the ice will be and, they did that on the 28th but you

know, we were prepared then and we're prepared now. we'll be ready whatever hits. bill: what have you changed now from two weeks ago? >> well, we restationed some wrecker services, especially our national guard who have the wreckers to remove automobiles and trucks from the roads. we repositioned those in the northern part of the state and we actually put more in service this time than we did on the 28th. bill: i'm looking at a live picture. it is coleman, alabama. how far are you from there, sir? cullman? >> approximately, we're probably 100 miles from there, 150. bill: because that can make a difference, sir because we're looking at cars rolling down the road. there is snow everywhere. >> there is lot of snow in north alabama now but most roads are passible. we have some that are not passible. i had a briefing about an hour ago. there are some roads that are not passible but we'll make sure

that, if people will stay at home like we've advised them to do and most people are heeding that warning and they're doing a very good job in north alabama. bill: one more question, governor. the amount of salt you have and gravel, is your supply, is it healthy? >> well, that was a problem this morning. i spoke with the department of transportation and we are somewhat low on that and we're trying to resupply that. bill: well you're not alone. at love states, whether it is in the south or the upper plains or midwest, a lot of people experiencing that. governor, good luck to you. we'll be in touch with you and folks in your state. >> thank you, bill. bill: appreciate it, from montgomery, alabama. martha: getting a lot of attention and closing arguments are now underway in the case of a florida man who is accused of killing a 17-year-old during a fight over loud music. michael dunne claims he shot jordan davis in self-defense outside after convenience store

in 2012. the case brings new attention to florida's "stand your ground" law. steve harrigan live in miami. what is the biggest hurdle in dunn's defense? >> reporter: for a man who claims he was afraid for his life and feared he would be shot with a shotgun the biggest hurdle for michael dunn that no shotgun was found on the scene. he spent several hours with his fiance and she claimed on the stand that dunn never claimed about a gun being pointed at him. in interrogations they made it clear to dunn they didn't find anything resembling a weapon at the scene. >> if it happened again tomorrow where a shotgun was coming up i think i would do the same. >> and you know what, mr. dunn? if there was a shotgun coming at you we would expect you to do what you did. the problem that we have there is no shotgun. that is the bridge that we got to get crossed. you keep dwelling on the shotgun if there was one at the scene.

if there was a shot gun, a bb gun, any type of gun at the seine, hell, if there was a water gun that looked real at the scene -- >> reporter: dunn is facing first-degree murder charges. he could face if convicted life behind bars, martha. martha: saw some of this yesterday. he was on the stand for hours. how do you think he held up and what was reaction to his testimony? >> reporter: more than three hours of cross-examination. for the most part he stayed calm, very soft-spoken, trying to show he is not an angry man. he did lose his composure a couple of times, broke down in tears talking about his fiance and his puppy but showed no such emotion, talking about the victim, 17-year-old jordan davis. did not break down at all speaking about the 17-year-old. he explained on the stand his somewhat bizarre behavior after the shooting. did not inform police an returned to his hotel and order ad pizza. he claimed simply he was in a panic. martha? martha: quite a case.

steve, thank you. bill: new jersey governor chris christie firing a shot across the bow on issue of income inequality. >> i think one of the big discussions and conversations over the course of the next two years in national politics is going to be. bill: do you want mediocrity or you want greatness? if you want income equality, that is mediocrity. everybody have an equal, mediocre salary. bill: some say that is the sensible approach. we'll examine governor christie's call on that in a moment. martha: is google ready to take over the world? a lot of people are concerned about that. they just took over control of an airport. bill: how do you do that? ♪

bill: so google now owns an airport. took over an historic federal airfield. government picking subsidiary of web giant to renovate moffett

airbase. only four miles from the company headquarters. it is used frequently by executives for personal flights. the airfield was built back in the 1930s. nasa managed it for 23 years. google beat out one other competitor for the contract. i imagine the other contractor didn't even stand a chance. google said, how much do you want? martha: we really, really want to run this airfield really badly. all right. new jersey governor chris christie wading into the political debate over income inequality, a real hot phrase as we move forward they're here. he was slamming democrats and liberals and progressive want more equal distribution of income. he argues they are pushing the country toward what he called mediocrity. watch. >> i don't think the american people want income equality. what they want is income opportunity. see --

[applause] talk to somebody right now i say to them, i can guaranty you x dollars a year for the rest of your life. there may be some in america who would accept that. but i think most people in america would go, how do i get a little more than that? that's the spirit of this country. how do i get a little more? martha: how do i get a little more. roeconn contributor to and leslie marshall. fox news contributor. how do i get a little more, leslie? what is wrong with that? >> this reminds me of chris christie going, look at that squirrel. please don't pay attention to what is going on with me. chris christie obviously has not been paying attention to what the american people want say polls. majority of americans this, is something we agree on both left and right. feel that there is a problem, disparity in wages and income inequality. i don't believe that it leads to mediocrity. quite frankly it will lead, if we continue this way, to elimination of the middle class. we can look to history for that.

look at france, look what happened to king louie. i don't think that is great place for americans tock and i don't think we have equal opportunity. martha: regardless of his personal situation and whether or not this helps him out politically, this discussion he seems to have returned to his roots. he was probably pretty happy to be talking about anything but the bridge situation. but he was very, very focused on this issue and i think he's right, roe, it will be one of the central issues into the midterms. american philosophy. >> no question. there is no question about it. what he is saying right there really exact same sort of thing you hear over and over again from the left which is, this is a problem that businesses is bad for the worker. and it is not. business creates jobs for the worker. that is what is going on here. income inequality is myth. no way to do it. you can't force and structure wage as the governmental level. if you can only do it on supply and demand. if there is a lot of unskilled, untrained workers out there they will not make a lot of money. what you need to do encourage

people to go to school, get training, work hard at their job and they will prosper. that is really only way to gee this economy and jobs. what we need are jobs. not some sort of rule you make x-amount of dollars for job, a, b or c. martha: let's listen to more. get your thoughts about it. >> i grew up in america that said life isn't fair but opportunity is so i believe that this debate is a debate that is, at the moment, being articulated in a way that is going to drive america towards mediocrity. martha: maybe that is where america wants to be you argue, leslie. because you think that this is not working, this argument in elections. and that is proven to be case? >> well, actually, income inequality has proven to be very successful for democrats. martha: i say, you think the opposite of the governor's argument is working for democrats to say, you know what? you need to give up a little what you have and spread it around and give it to other people is a political winner in your opinion?

>> yes, but it is not just that. it is not just spreading around. i would agree with some of what roe said but you have to have the opportunity and you have to have the jobs. these 1% in the country that are unking these companies sending their factories or sending their workers, sending their jobs overseas. we see it time and time again. they do have the power to bring those jobs back to the united states. they also have the power to have these kinds of training programs to make them affordable, to provide scholarships to make that more affordable to americans. when we leak at breakdown in the middle class and lower incomes there is not the opportunity there. the middle class is the majority of our nation, the backbone much our nation and i think we would be foolish to ignore the 99% and majority of americans who fall within that middle class margin. martha: roe, you mentioned the fact, i want to get in in there. you think this is significant this speech was given in chicago. why is that. >> yeah, absolutely. this is the home of reagan democrats.

in 1980, union members in chicago actually started the push for ronald reagan. first time this state actually went red in a generation. and it led to a sweep in the industrial north of unionized conservatives basically. people who understand that the union, although has very important place in their lives, also can not encourage laziness or should not encourage inefficiency. and, that was a message that was very, very, very well-struck with union members in the automotive industry and in industrial and steel and all the rest of that. so what you see here now is, christie is going right for this. he is saying, everybody talks about income equality or inequality. really the issue is, if you work hard you will do well. that's really at the very essence of this. i think that is the message that -- most americans. martha: roe, for a second, do you think this is political winer? this is the central biggest question when we head into the next round of elections. do people want a handout. do they want to be protected.

are they willing to take a little less across the board so everybody has equal amount? or do they want a little bit more as chris christie says? leslie may be right when you look at some previous elections. >> well i think there's, the lostty nature of what chris christie was trying to say is accurate. people want to be hopeful. they actually want to work hard. the average american doesn't see themselves as person that will accept a handout be happy with that i think something ingrained in the american spirit that says hey, we'll go out and make something happen here. he is talking about that principle. you talk to people, hard-working americans do not like it when somebody not doing their job well is getting same or better compensation than they are. that is really where the divide comes. martha: we'll see. a big, big question for america. leslie, thank you very much. roe, good to see you. we'll see you next time, guys. >> thank you. bill: jenna lee standing by. "happening now" comes your way in 12 minutes. how are you, jenna? >> i'm doing great, bill. thank you very much. we have a big show coming up.

president set to sign minimum wage increase but critic sass this will not bring the down the unemployment rate. we'll get into that with a panel. was she a participant or willing to participate in cold-blooded murder. her story in her own words. you will hear that. you think your stressed, right? talk to your teenager. a new survey shows teens are more stressed than adults. we'll tell you why and what it is doing to their health. maybe they need to toughen up, bill? i don't know. maybe that is the issue. bill: something to do with the cell phone in their pocket. see you, jenna. "robocop" is closer to reality. why this guy will help veterans and dig abled officers get back on patrol. ♪

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martha: well it is a flintstone find in the modern world. construction workers in downtown seattle digging up the tusk of a wooly mammoth. how cool is that? look how big it is compared to the guy standing next to it. it dates back to the ice age, making it more than 10,000 years old. since it was found on private property, it is up to the landowner to decide what will be done with it. one local museum is lobbying for the chance to study it. wow. bill: have the barbecue. check this out, twice. could be best described as a real-life "robocop." they're calling it telebot. it would allow officers to remotely control a robot based on their own movements. we think it is cool. christine warren is senior tech analyst at mashable.com and is

in studio. you think it is really cool. >> it is very cool. bill: what is cool about it? >> using a lot of off the shelf parts. they're using out kulis rif, virtual game reality headsets, about $500. they're able to build the robot. bill: off the shelf is more common? >> right. meaning they're not going to a specialized contractor. they're not going to the military or spending tens of thousands of dollars on one specific part. bill: see what they're doing here right? >> yes. bill: tell us what is being developed there. >> what they are basically doing they have a system in place with a camera being controlled and viewed from someone back in another location. they have got things set up so they're making something with their hands, the robot controls it. and they can see what the robot sees using a camera and using this 3-d headset. bill: it hasn't been done before? >> it has but not on this level, i think their budget on this is about $20,000.

usually these things start at about the $75,000 range. bill: really? >> the fact they're building this, this could be inexpensive way for police departments to get robots. bill: on the cheap, right? >> totally. bill: the biggest challenge, christina, is what here? >> the biggest challenge how well this would work in practice. this would work well to augment existing police strategy. you have an officer and have the robot that can act as a second pair of eyes but the challenge is going to be, making sure that it can manuever itself around and accomplish what it needs to accomplish. bill: talking about disabled veterans or injured police officers getting opportunity to go back to work? >> right. bill: i see other advantages here. do you? >> absolutely. you could do all kinds of things with this. could be a great way for people to monitor, certain parking areas or look over to areas and say, hey, this is a problem right now. you could have 24-hour guard command for different people come in and look through the camera system. bill: so long as they're not

writing tickets, i think that is clever idea. kidding. >> absolutely. bill: $20,000 seems to be pennies on the dollar when it comes to technology but why are they able to do that essentially on the cheap now? >> well this is what is so incredible. robotics and virtual reality systems and cameras become so inexpensive, a lot of these consumer things we use, you can buy every day are actually becoming good enough quality to use out in the field. so there is this big, big disruption happening where we can actually take consumer-based technology and use it in professional settings. bill: do you see a danger in this eventually? if everything is robotic and we're controlling all this by way of camera or are otherwise, do you see danger there? >> there definitely can be danger. you have to look at cameras on stoplights and the way that is sort of thing happened where a lot of people get automated traffic tickets. you have to have some sort of actual control and some real person, you know, backing things up and saying okay, this is

happening the right way. but i think that really can increase, how much surface area, police officers could cover, disabled or otherwise. bill: hats off to the students developing this in miami, florida. >> absolutely. bill: six foot, 75-pound, telebot. from mashable.com. martha? martha: have you heard? there is a new round of brutal weather pummeling the united states. storm number five by my count, knocking out to power and grounding flights on the east coast. latest on effect on millions of people in the south which is being described as catastrophic. what do folks north of them ha in store?

martha: a little idea for you. gun retailers in indiana set their sights on valentine's day suggesting people give the gift of firearms. forget the flowers and candy and typical choices, one owner says his store even sells pink guns.

he should give them a training lesson if they are new gun owner. maybe some flowers or chocolate might be nice. bill: just giving some ideas. have a great day. martha: goodbye, everybody. we will see you tomorrow. jenna: we have a fox's alert for you now. senator rand paul announce a class-action lawsuit against president obama, the nsa and the fbi over the sweeping collection of americans phone records. senator paul click in the government is violating the fourth amendment banning unreasonable search and seizures. you can see the announcement live on foxnews.com a half hour from now. live report and judge napolitano will join us on "happening now." and right now, breaking news on the top headlines,