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♪ >> are you a member of the privileged? do you get special breaks in life. they want everyone to have equal opportunity but they get special breaks to certain companies. >> all benefit from it. >> all benefit? no not all benefit. privileged benefit. like members of congress when it came to obamacare. >> is there any other large employer who gets the same treatment? >> congressional provision only applies to congress. >> we will be damned if we are going to loose our health insurance because of unintended consequences. >> multi makers get a special
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break. >> the michigan film tax track>> don't ever let somebody tell you you can't do something. >> nascar track owners get special breaks. so to investors in terne kinds of energy. the privileged class. that's our show tonight. >> there's a reason today for the first time most of america's richest counties surround washington, d.c. washington is where you go if you want special privileges. that's where they todole them o. as government grows they have another more to dole out. we are all people we are all in this together.
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but where government is very big that's a lot. george other well understood this when he wrote the novel animal farm. >> other well w orwell was writ about communism. government central plans hurts everyone a little but rewards people. >> the animal farm prosper but the animals themselves are no better off with the exception of the pig. >> the pigs in animal farm were the political leaders and over time they prospered at the other animal's expense. >> some animals are more equal than others. today the animals that are more equal. people that aren't groenes they
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lobby cronies that get close to the politician. hollywood film producers got a special break. nascar got 70 million to build new racetracks. multi national corporations got 9 billion tax break. the act tive financing section to subpart f. that is how washington works. but ellis hen began is a proud progressive they make choices about who needs help. many with american tax reform says government says we should spring government so it can't make some animals more equal than others. >> you want the winners with all of the $3 trillion? oo if we are going to have government we are going to have laws it is the case that some
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people will get benefits. it is trivial compared to the impact the market has, that heredity has and number of other factors. if you want to be rich in this society the best way is to be born that way. if you don't marry a rich person go into the market and sell goods and services to people that will get you rich a whole lot richer than sucking the government with. >> having government give it to you because you know somebody isn't. >> but it is inevitable. if we want government to do things for us if we want roads and bridges and prisons and a military and a safety net, someone somewhere is going to benefit from that. you can't use that as an excuse to not do important things for our society. >> no libertarian is going to say we have you not have any roads or have government
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involved. can we do a public private partnership where they can make investments back on the road rather than contract the union to support the politician to build the road. those are what we should be asking rather than no road or no highway. >> keep government small so fewer of the choices are in the hands of politicians. >> i agree. >> but again you don't use some notion of well there's going to be someone ahead and a little behind to make important choices for us. someone is going to have to build that road and it might be your friends and it might be john's friends. >> why are you giving someone else's nascar tracks. >> i don't trick motorcycle makers. i am not going to defend every single tax break. but at least in government, john, those decisions are being made by people who are elected by the people. >> that would be great if that were the case. look what happened with obamacare. they didn't read the law before it went into effect. the people who are making these
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decisions are administrators of the epa these aren't folks we have accountability for. >> you gave up obamacare they were supposed to meet us members of congress got a special subsidy. senator griber had a health exchange about that. >> is there any other large employer who gets the same treatment and gets to go to that exchange? >> the congressional provision only applies to congress. >> con dwres is the only large employer who gets that special treatment. >> it is a function, it is one of the provisions in affordable care ability. >> congress gets the special deal. republicans and democrats, we don't want to hurt our staff and treat them like the rest of this country. >> listen, i don't understand why you are so fixated on this. i mean to work with congress there's some benefits you get by being a government employee. there are things most of those people could make more money in the private sector. one is a special break on health insurance. why do we need to be so outraged
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about that. >> that is not how the healthcare law wraas written. if you are dumped off from the employer's healthcare insurance your employer doesn't get to give you any more subsidies for premium for your healthcare costs. that's the deal and that's how it is written in the law the folks who wrote the law should have to deal with it as well. >> labor unions were there and after it passed and they read it and discovered some of us will have to pay more. >> if the affordable care act is not fixed it needs to be revealed. we will be damned if we are going to loose our health insurance because of unintended consequences and a law and it needs to be mixed now. presto a mu months later they would have a rule to exempt unions from the fee. but others have to pay it. why is that fair? >> this is the way we tigfight things in a democratic society. these people are getting more
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than i am getting. at least again it's not perfect. you are right people have influence some are smarter than others. some are think thanks that help support them. at least we are doing this in some kind of playing field that is open to some sort of public debate. isn't that better. >> we are talking about obamacare here which is already the law of the land which is what we have been hearing from the administration for months if not years. he gets to play with the law of the land however he wants. >> 41451 waiver -- 451 waivers o the union p. >> it is not just the fee it's the cap on healthcare benefits. they tried to get as much out of the law and did well for themselves. >> what about the irs
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examination taking on tea party groups. >> that isn't true. they are trying to gnave gate through this that air lou -- allows them to do political stuff. let's make all groups pay their fair share of debts. >> does that include labor unions? >> we can agree on that. certain invest is tors get special privileges if they invest in green energy. the president obama told congress he wants more money do i have given to certain countries to pay for research on new forms of energy. >> the private sector will not invest in their research because it is too expensive, too risky. we have to support it and we will all benefit from it. >> we don't so much all benefit from it. certain people benefit from it.
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>> john, dream with me on this. president wouldn't it be great if we had this renewable energy that didn't pollute from anything. >> what do we have from the investments? >> he said what i said about the investments is they are too risky for the private market. that's because they are not going to bear industry that aren't solvent, that aren't productive that aren't going to produce anything for consumers or for businesses. there's a reason for that. there's a good reason for that. resources should be dedicated to industries and enterprises that are going to help america not hinder it. >> every time industry gsolves these problems government will not do. these are the times markets failed us. let's get together and investment>> the markets failed the industry hasn't invented the perfect energy form but the tax payer should fund bureaucrats to do it. >> better than giving it to the oil companies.
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>> it is quite a big difference. >> we should have subsidies but the oil companies deliver. >> there is something different than solyndra $500 million shot and allowing the oil industry to deduct the exact thing that other manufacturers are allowed to deduct. >> these are little growing companies. the oil industries are the most profitable corporate entities they have owned. >> look how sleazy the sol linda $500 million loss was. george kaiser was obama backer. he raised 100,000. ment made several visits to the white house. this was the guy behind solyndra. >> i am not defending solyndra. there are sleez bags in every industry. let's not give up the idea of doing things a society.
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look at the companies taxpayers pay for that have gone bankrupt. the a 23 systems the range, fuel, beacon power and one after the other that went broke. >> they have ties back to the democratic administration. >> the white house in the most open honest administration. >> sounds terrible when you read this list of these companies that stumble. in fact if you look at it in a broader content the failure rate is far les than the marketplace. >> the government is assuring putting their thumb on the scale and saying these little guys over here are somehow better
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than gain attraction in silicone valley. >> in the end we make judgments. you can't just throw up your hands and say i am not just going to do anything. i want military prisons and maybe welfare. >> we want all of these things, too, better and cheaper. >> if we did all of those. that would be one 35th of the budget. i am okay with that. >> dream with me. don't just throw it out. as we debate government is broke you win. >> thank you ellen and maddie. thank you to keep this conversation being use the hash tag prifl louse frivolous for movie plate makers.
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>> dee cleared a state of the emergency as they leave with
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better financial incentives. >> state of emergency? filmmakers left? emergencies used to be things like natural disaster. now it's a state of emergency when businesses flee an expensive state? i don't blame the movie makers california has great weather but it has expensive work rules and high taxes. where should the movie producer go? the producer's privilege because movies are sexy business and 42 states offer movie producers incentives. i think gavin pal loan would like that he's the hollywood producer who produced tv shows like curb your enthusiasm, the gilmore girls and panic room and more recently zombie land. you are one of the privileged ones. >> i think they are bad economics and they should be
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apolytheis aboli abolished. >> why? >> well, first they don't make any economic sense. they return lesson a per dollar basis than what they are putting out. the state of rhode island did a study and they got back $0.28 for every dollar they sent. connecticut got back $0.08 for every dollar they spent. >> but they keep spending. a few states pulled back. the biggest credit used to be the state of michigan 42 prs. now they have cut about a that can to 27 percent. the current leaders are ohio, louisiana, georgia, north carolina. you have taken your crews to some of these places. >> absolutely. i have a responsibility to produce movies the best i can. i often have to take advantage of tax incentives. i know it's wrong. it needs to end. >> what about this commercial after people criticized the tfim
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tax credit. >> there are those who say the michigan film tax credit only benefit hollywood. i have friends who beg to differ. what it is about is jobs over 6,000 the past two years alone. it's about people who dream and work in their home state the michigan film tax credit. keep it rolling. >> that's about people who dream of working in their home state. you want them to loose their jobs? >> i don't think the government shoulding funding specific industries. there are these incentives at 42 states which turns into 42 different solyndras in hollywal the country. >> you are unusual in hollywood. do you have any friends? >> yeah. i feel like people do let you voice your opinion nobody will hold it against me. i seem to continue to work. >> we have been talking about states competing against states and countries, too, the producer
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of avatar john landau says there's no place in the world that we would make these more cost effective than new zealand. they are making all four movies halfway around the world. >> yeah, i know john he's a great producer. if i were in his position i would do the same thing. ultimately it's unfair trade practices. what we should do is abolish the unfair taxes. then penalize countries like new zealand who are competing with us unfairly. let's get the rest of the world to do it all on a level playing field. if we did it all on a level playing field the crews and workers in southern california would always win out because we have the best in the world. the only way somebody can compete with us -- the only way the crews and the infrastructure in the united states can be competed with is by a government
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writing a check to somebody in order to equalize it. that is wrong that is not fair trade. >> thank you,>> it all comes from somewhere. >> thank you gavin. you are an honorable man to criticize policies that bring you money. >> coming up more privilege celebrated in hollywood in the most crass way. >> oh my god. but next you are not privileged you could loose your home. that's next. privileged, you could lose your [ female announcer ] research suggests cell health plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. with 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day women's 50+.
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john: your home is your castle. >> your home is your castle.le. the greater group a law called eminent domain allows government to grab private property to
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build things like highways and parks. however, lately more politicians are using eminent domain to grab people's land for privileged developers usually ones who give to the political campaign. they report in philadelphia. >> what happens there? >> a gentlemen named rick young who had a nonprofit he essentially lobbied a local counsel woman for funding and eminent domain privileges to build a supermarket impoverished neighborhood in west vil vil. he was also a political donor to the same councilwoman and simultaneously acted as a developer of the project and also oinwned land in the area. they would talk to about any of
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this. they are bringing in a supermarket to the area. >> they were conflicts the city knew about through out this process. >> politically connected developers win but what about the people who own property where the development is supposed to go. james owns a studio that the government plans to tear down there. they offered you money for it. they offered you 600,000 dollars. >> unfortunately the glg wbuild was 2.2 mmm. the sweat equity. i fill three spaces that are fully livable. i had a visiting artist's studio. >> this is serious heart. your stuff is in museums. >> i have had five pieces in an
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art museum and 20 around the world. >> we nueed a supermarket more. >> fine. but i need my studio. you can have my property, but my property was up for sale. they could have made me a is de tent offer for this space. >> why were they giving you for 200,000 when they could for 600,000. >> we have the philadelphia redevelopment story. we have met with your representatives and we are working toward a resolution that will adom date you and wol to a maybe. >> it is not food desert. >> it is no the a gofood desert. >> this has been funny. there aren't food deserts. they live closer to
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supermarkets. >> they decided they wanted this parcel of land. >> there are lots of vacant lots? what's it will? >> it is about seasonal lands for personal development. i call it the secret plan. nobody knows what the plan is. >> is this about cronies helping other cronies? >> my next guest will defend nepotism. he will defend these privileged brats? >> oh my god. brats. or retirement. but when we sta worrying about tomorrow, we miss out on what matters today. ♪ at axa, we offer advice and help you break down your retirement goals into small, manageable steps. ecause when you plan for tomorrow,
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frivolous and they are not ashamed of it. >> i was raised by immigrants parents who told me we are giving you nothing, you make it on your own. and that makes sense to me. america is supposed to be. adam says i am wrong to emphasize this. he is author of "in praise of nepotism." you are the son of famous author saul bello. so you are cheating. he gave you a break. you work in publishing. >> that is what you would think, actually, my father was terrible at nepotism. he had no connections that were of help to me. even if he had -- >> just the name? >> that's a different thing. i tried to become a writer in my 20's. i wasn't as talented as my father. big surprise. i went into a related line of work and the people that hired me felt that not just my name
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but my background my education the values i inherited would make me a good fit in the publishing business that turned out to be the case. whether we consider it to be fair or not that is somebody who enjoys the birth we take these cases on an individual basis. if you are not very good at designing cars and somebody gives you the keys to the factory you drive produce a car nobody wants you go down in history as a example of bad nepotism. >> you agree with the tv show the rich kids of beverly hills. they are celebrating their wealth and being playboy. >> it is rags to rags in three generations. >> they squander the money? >> that is all too common.
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that is a historical pattern. it is a cliche for a reason. >> the privilege that comes nebtism look at these headlines. at the energy department nepotism is open and widely accepted. justice department employees sited for nepotism and hire. at least they were sited but it's open at the energy department. that is disgusting. >> it is a very old story in american politics. there's always been a feeling in america that people in politics should be drawn there out of spirit of public service not just because of tradition or family. >> president bush is wife of one president and smother of anothe. >> jeb is the best qualified person to run for president, but i hope he won't. clintons, pushes -- bushes, therer more families. >> there are a million more
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families than that. >> it is remarkable we often elect the children of famous politicia politicians. roosevelt, jfk became president and appointed his brother attorney general his other brother senator. al gore's father was a senator, too. the public says we don't like nepotism but they elect these guys. >> we publically and in general condemn it but privately on a case by case basis we tend to approve of it. the reason is in the new nepotism the successor has to prove his worth either before or after the fact. i think it is interesting barbara bush says she doesn't want a bush dynasty, it is too late. they already have one. >> on to hollywood the kids of famous people get good roles himself. >> actor will smith put his kids
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in movies. >> don't ever let somebody tell you you can't do something. >> yeah, well, easier to do something if your father arranges it for you. >> hollywood is a kind of family industry. they are not just in the acting professions but in directing, in stage. >> acting alone. there are the dru bare -- drew barrymore, angelina jolie's father is jon voight. the sheen family is interesting. martin sheen, charlie sheen, emilio estevez. martin was originalliest vez changed it to sheen. martin and charlie are more famous than emilio. nepotism is working for them. >> nepotism works in hollywood. americans are not an envious people. that is the hallmark of america.
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we are fine with michael douglas becoming a movie actor because he's talented maybe the movie star kids have their parent's acting genes. >> maybe they really are good actors. >> the today show used to be a big deal job he had to earn. but did this other spon dent earn it? >> jenna bush hagar had experience on that. >> jenna bush hagar. >> did chellie clsea clinton ea shot? >> thank you for the opportunity. >> paul mccartney's daughter. >> i love getting interviewed by somebody who knows what it is like. >> give me a break.
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it is so selfish. it's unfair. >> you agree? >> i agree with this one. >> my point is this, if people show that they have some ability, once they have received some benefits then in general the public is really perfectly prepared to accept it. >> i am not fine with those two women. thank you adam bellow. >> what happens when government tries to back on special trifl ledges. some who have grown accustomed to the handsouts riot. >> in one case entitled dairy farmers spilled truckloads of milk on the ground. [ male announcer ] frequent heartburn? the choice is yours.
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>> big government is too big. it gives to the privileged class. it could be worse, our government consumes about 40 percent of what they produce. european governments take even more and they give big bucks to all kinds of special interest groups. and when our country goes broke and gives back to the privilege this happens.
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>> this is in greece where government controls more than half of the economy. they asked government workers to work longer because they were going broke people rioted. he covers europe for the wall street journal. all kinds of stuff is going on like this. britain gave $107 million to rolls-royce. >> r & d in britain. rolls-royce manufacturing a ton of their products in in asia. >> the french government not only sub tieses mo -- subsidize movies in france but they subsidize mourn movies if we talk about france. >> there's quota and have aing weighses to look at movies, production plans, study a script to see how much of it is spoken in french and if they qualify there are generous tax rebates and government help for the international movie industry.
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>> they spend a billion dollars. >> they barely have two croissants to rub together in france. >> some of the tortured clips they got subsidies because of dialogues lick this. >> 1, 2, 3. >> that paut ton activates air an air bucket. i don't think they meant to get to vegas via prayer ryes. it is an american english lang juaning caper mo -- language ca movie. i am in the theater watching this plot unfold with french characters. i thought there is no way to
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come about the end of the film, the he hcredit sub lick movie s diddie diddies. whether there is fun the plies will come to an over pot. >> in were yous els especially where the eu stub citied de-- subsidies have 50 billion euros for years. they solely devise businesses and usual. they developed bide troe therapy for dogs. the world wildlife fund got 16,000 euros for a major appreciation program tore italian farmers. >> farmers got money to reconsider the relationship of
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their landscape to become more aware of their emotional reaction. we have this money to daysiccally roll the enfarmers this was deemed a worth while awes. >> they arity tal will he and austria. once the subsidies exist it is home runned to get rid of them. we showed you the great in if chance one are privileged. >> farmers pour their milk on the ground in protest. once you get our good . some of the other tax subsidies. germany gets tax privileged status. the company is involved in
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>> today for the first time, most of the richest counties in america surround washington the week. john: that is because money goes to where people can grant special privileges. and th >> the rich get even richer. in washington supposedly under paid workers in office systems resemble palaces. this is the teachers union headquarters. >> we are told it is worth $100 million. >> the aid yes ma'am atrium is environmental. they didn't want us to take
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pictures of it. >> they didn't want us to take a picture of the atrium. >> they debated whether we could videotape. >> we have read about the beautiful lobby and i would like to show it to the viewers. >> they said no we couldn't take it in. the privileges in washington don't create much value they feed off it if they do. >> it is a disfunking in both parties in washington. they moved the capital to nebraska. >> t>> that is a good idea from ben who is running for governor there. >> it means 435 house members
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and members. we need to leave the bure rocky, well what we need to exercise incompliment tal creaking isn't going to change what we have. >> we have to look at what are the limited numbers the government has. >> you were he have chew of staff at the u.s. department of justice. we have the consulting contract with the department of homeland security. he was assistant secretary for complaning at hhs. you are another insider. >> it is a fair question but it is reality. i have worked with saudi
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arabiaing ton. you think washingtons were values, the founders believed everyone should think that in this stays. >> there's nothing wrong with expensive law medicare part d. you wrote an op ed in u.s. news and world rereport. it is the answer to health reform. this is another exploding entitlement program which has my wage group which is healthier age group. you are giving us more money. >> you are right. we are builty of generational theft right now in america. i have always opposed unstaunded expansion. >> this is unfunded untitlement.
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>> what part b has that parts a and b don't is at the least part b has a market reck nichl as opposed to kree at. it is a piss take and we need to give become moving will capital of washington. the sifr seekers would move to the ungrateful. >> it is not the store it's the lapyests. you made it that way bypassing all of these laws. >> there is that argue uchlt. >> it is not on washington, d.c. >> he says on paul street. what they don't get is government is forked no matter how rich the there are only way
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two chings to do in life. by alling ton kachlt be caning russ. they force us to subsidiary died. you don't think they are not paying taxes. men with guns will eventually show up at your doorstep and if you don't pay they will put you in jail. i don't really care if will smith puts his son jaden in his movies or drew barrymore was in et. people volunteer to give money to drew barrymore and will smith. government is forced. that's why it is evil and government gets bigger and bigger and gets more special revel lijs to the people behind the velvet proep
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