brand new stories you see here first. >> five years ago today as we were dealing with a massive recession the president zioned his equally massive stimulus plan into law. did we get what we paid for? a question we will ask today. disturbing twist in a murder investigation. a teenage suspect accused of luring a man to death on craig's list, claiming there are many more victims. we'll get into that. a pilot hijacks his own plane. what he was demand something all "happening now." jenna: to our top story, democrats going on the offensive on obamacare. hi, everybody, great to have you today. happy presidents' day today. i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. democratic candidates hoping to change the narrative on the health care law ahead of the midterm elections. "the new york times" today reports more democrats talking openly about props with the president's health care law but trying to emphasize that they want to fix obamacare.

democrats believe this mend it, don't end it strategy could boost their chances in november. this comes amid growing criticism that ordinary americans are getting caught in the cross fire of a pitched political battle. karl rove, former deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and a fox news contributor. we'll get into some of the specifics in a moment, karl. what do you think about the overall idea, embrace obamacare, say you want to fix it, but the over all it's a good thing? >> yeah. well, first of all, let's recognize this is a pretty dramatic change for the democrats. last year they were going to own it. they were going to reach out and grab it. they were going to support it. proclaim its many benefits even as recently as end of last year and early this year. the leadership, democratic leadership say by election day this will be a huge plus for us. all we need to do is wait and watch and it will turn into a plus. this is a practical recognition

that this law is unpopular, likely to remain so and that they can't simply say, oh, everything is taken care of, it is glorious, don't worry everything will work out. issue for the democrats is this, will this be credible by the fall? i voted for the law. it had all the mistakes and problems and you can trust me to be the person to fix those problems after having voted for the law that created them? it is the best the democrats can probably do but depends upon the republicans making two or three mistakes between now and november. you always hate to count on your opponent to make a mistake in order for to you succeed. >> so you don't think that overall approach is going to be very workable? >> well, depends on what the republicans do in response. if the republicans say, first of all, we need to replace this law. there are good things in it. you can keep your kid on until 26 if you have a preexisting condition. you can get coverage. we have to make big changes. you shouldn't have to do this.

you shouldn't have to do that. it will cost too much for this. make a specific critique we want to replace it with something new and here is what the new thing is. they also have to emphasize the broken promises. this needs to be, they need to nail each one of these democrats, starting with president obama having said something that turned out not to be true. for example, if you like your plan you can keep it. most important of all, they need to put it in a broader frame. does not need to be simply a question of obamacare, the key democrats, kay hagen of north carolina or mary landrieu of louisiana, mark pryor of arkansas, mark begich of alaska, reliable votes for obama like big things of the stimulus. we're the fifth anniversary of the stimulus. we were supposed to have 5% and economy was going and proking if we spent the trillion dollars. this needs to be put in a broader framework which is, on obamacare, on stimulus, on spending, on the deficit, this incumbent member of congress,

this incumbent member of the senate is too reliable vote for president obama. do you want somebody who will vote down the line with president or somebody who will be a reliable check on the president during the last two years in office. jon: i want to get your take on something that "the new york times" published this morning. here's a line from their article titled "on health act, democrats run and fix it mode." it reads as, democrats approach the 2014 midterm elections they're grappling with a talk ward reality. the health care law passed almost entirely by democrats remains a political liability in their states threatening their ability to hold on to seats in the senate and house. interesting the phrasing, passed almost entirely by democrats because they didn't get a single republican vote. sheer. >> here is how many republican votes they got? zero. jon: adding in independents. >> there is sign of "new york times" to suggest this

was a bipartisan measure ain't funny. you know this, was a down the line democrat vote. this was a bill that as nancy pelosi famously said, we have to pass it in order to know what it's in it. nobody read the bill. we don't know who made up some provision in the bill. there was no discussion of this at the subcommittee level and committee level and worked over by republicans and democrats in a committee and examined in detail. this was a bill cobbled together in some back room, shoved in front of the american people. democrats voted it through before they lost their majority in the senate. they tried to do it but ended up having to pass it with 51 votes in the senate using a parliamentary manuever. this was not a bipartisan measure. jon: and so now that "the new york times" is even recognizing the fact apparently this thing, as they put it, an awkward reality, it is a political liability in many states. is the times coming around? >> well, there's another mistake there. it is not a political liability in many states.

it is a political liability in every state. it's a political liability in the nationwide, i'm not aware of a single poll that shows that the affordable care act is more popular in any single state than it is up popular. the other thing is, the people who disliked this bill, this law, are far more energetic and far more, you know, stronger in their opposition than are the supporters of the bill. so the energy is with the opponents. people might say, oh, yeah, i like this bill but the people who say i don't like it say it with a vehemence and anger. that drives turnout in midterm elections. all these registered voters, two out of, better than two out of every three turn out in a presidential election year. four out of 10 out in midterm election. opposition to obamacare in 2014 will have much larger significance on the vote as it did in 2010, opposite the stimulus and affordable care act had bigger impact on the 10:00 on the support side than

the opposition side. jon: that opposition is palpable. karl rove from russ stain. -- austin. >> good took at that you jon. jenna: a copilot landing in police custody after authorities say he hijacked an international flight. ethiopian airlines pilot diverted the plane from rome to switzerland because he wanted to seek asylum. greg palkot with more. what happened here? >> reporter: jenna, amazing, potentially very dangerous episode on ethiopian airlines flight number 70. it had taken off from the country's capitol after midnight local time with a final destination of rome, italy. when the alert went out the plane was hijacked. the copilot locked himself inside the cockpit and taken over the boeing 767, when the pilot went to the bathroom. diverted plane north to geneva, switzerland. italian and air force jets

scrambled. demanded asylum and landed the plane with 200 passengers and crew on board. on the tarmac he popped one of the cockpit windows open. lowered himself down via emergency rope right into the hand of authorities. passengers were then brought off the plane. no one was injured. on board there was no weapons involved. a lot of people scratching their heads however after again a potentially really dangerous episode. jenna: you can understand that, scratching of the head, wondering why he did this. we mentioned asylum,. do we know why he was seeking asylum? >> there is, jenna a history of hijackings involving ethiopians and airlines and the air force. one at least ending in death. the country has a past and current situation of political problems and human rights issues. now according to the officials that we have heard from in switzerland today, this man, an ethiopian in his i recall 30s, could face 20 years in jail for hostage-taking.

little chance of asylum. the folks in the plane are bused back or flown back to italy. geneva airport was closed for a period of time. flights from u.s. and elsewhere were disrupted. in post-9/11 area, keeping the flight team secured inside the cockpit certainly gotten a lot more attention. jenna, the problem arising if the flight team is involved which apparently happened today, basically an inside job. a lot more attention at ethiopian airlines will be taken to screening pilots. maybe other airlines as well. back to you. jenna: we'll watch the developments in this story. greg, thank you. jon: new developments in a bizarre situation in south africa involving a group of miners trapped underground. at least 21 have been rescued now but charged will legal mining. 200 more could still be underground. many of them say they don't want to be rescued for near fear they could be arrested. to producer paul tilsy is

streaming live from johannesburg, south africa with the latest. paul? >> reporter: jon, up to 22 miners have been released from the hole behind me here. and it is thought that a further 300 could be still underground. emergency services say those still underground are reluctant to forward and come out of the hole, indeed for fear of being arrested for illegal mining. it's a dangerous situation. the illegal miners which is african slang for trying your luck. are the subjects of a movie, murders, shootings, unplanned explosions happen frequently among the thousands of them say by the police working illegally underground. and police say they have already arrested over 100 illegal miners underfrowned in south africa's mines. that is this year. with darkness falling here the security services, the emergency services, rather, have already left for the day. they say, it's too dangerous to

contemplate going underground, to go searching in totally dark tunnels for miners who in any case made it clear they don't want be the rescued. one final note, jon, unless they, the miners come up from underground soon, they could become trapped again because fox news has just obtained this note from the mine owners, threatening to seal the mine again. it says they will do it on march therd. you are -- 3rd. you are warned not to proceed underground. there is big question i've got. how dot rescuers send this note underground? it is thought that they haven't done so yet. so presumably the miners underground don't know yet that the mine shaft here is going to be sealed again on march the 3rd. the big question, has their fate already been sealed? jon?

jon: paul tilsey. from south africa. jenna: a twist of the story. jon: who knew. these are established mines they go in and start working again. what a story. paul will keep us updated. jenna: we'll keep you updated as well. shocking new claims by a suspect in the craig's list killing. a teenager accused of murdering a man she and her husband lured with an online ad. she says she was involved in many more murders. the latest developments on this bizarre case next. also a pastor who starred in reality show called, quote snake salvation" dies after snake bite. details of his tragic passing next. ent, will you outlive your money? uhhh. no, that can't happen. that's the thing, you don't know how long it has to last. everyone has retirement questions.

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jenna: "happening now," quite a story. a kentucky pastor who standard in the "national geographic" reality show, "snake salvation", has died from a snake bite. he died at his home over the

weekend after being bitten by a rattlesnake in his church. he reportedly refused medical treatment. he had been bitten multiple times in the past. even once faced criminal charges for illegally transporting venomous snakes in tennessee. jon: shocking new development in a pennsylvania murder case. the fbi now says it will investigate new claims by 19-year-old miranda barbour. she is accused of killing a man she and her husband allegedly lured through craig's list. barbour telling the newspaper she took part in at least 22 murders while involved in a satanic cult. rick leventhal is here. he has the latest on the investigation. >> reporter: jon, jenna, there are many people making dramatic claims about murder sprees that turned out not to be true but police are taking this seriously. a source close to the case said to me there could be something close to this. fbi is investigating miranda barbour's claims of at least 22 murders in several states. barbour and her husband were

arrested last year for the savage littling of troy la laferrara. she met the man in the parking lot. her husband was hiding in the back seat and they strangled and repeatedly stabbed victim. the her husband spoke to a local news station before he was busted. >> i do not believe this was malicious whatsoever. i believe she was attacked. >> reporter: but in jailhouse interview miranda told a local newspaper reporter that she and her husband murdered laferrara on a "thrill kill" on three-week wedding anniversary and she stopped counting after her 22nd victim you. >> can take all she said in the interview and take all the numbers she through l threw around and mower surprising fact she said if she got out she could do it again. >> reporter: the killing started when she joined a satanic cult when she was 13. they're talking with investigators in alaska, texas,

north carolina and california. the reporter who interviewed her said she did not seem rehearsed. >> very well-spoken. very mild mannered. very polite. she was very polite and just very soft, very soft. and she never hesitated at anything she said. >> reporter: but is she telling the truth? it is up to the police and fbi to confirm it or dismiss it. jon, jenna? jon: wow, what a story. they will stay on that. that will keep them busy for weeks, months. >> reporter: absolutely. jon: rick leventhal, thanks. jenna: exactly five years ago the president signed a massive stimulus plan into law aimed at jump-starting the economy. did it work? we'll break down the numbers for you today. closing arguments in the trial of a north carolina woman accused of murdering her husband's former girlfriend. the latest from the courtroom next.

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jon: right now closing arguments underway in the trial of a north carolina woman charged with murdering her husband's ex-girlfriend. amanda hayes, seen here in the middle, is accuse of killing her husband grant's former girlfriend, laura ackerson, the woman on the right amid a custody dispute in 2011. she had two boys by grant hayes. he is currently serving a life sentence. he was convicted last year of murdering ackerson, the mother of his two oldest children. amanda hayes testified last week she didn't know ackerson had been killed until after the crime. she only helped get rid of did the body because her husband threatened her and forced her to join in. her attorneys today wrapping up their case. >> we already know that grant hayes has been tried and convicted of first-degree murder. and the state contends to you that in some way that amanda helped him commit that crime.

we contend that that is absolutely not true. jon: jonna spilbor is a former prosecutor. esther panitche is a trial attorney. jonna, as a former prosecutor, you say this is an easier case for the defense? why? >> i do. you know why, jon? it boils down to this, this is a pure credibility contest. we have no real witnesses to the case except for the two defendants, one of which already has been convicted of the murder, the second of which is amanda hayes. this jury is really going to have to grapple with, do they believe her? they have almost have to tree for lack of a better word, she had to take the stand. she told her story. are they going to be belief her story or the witnesses brought forward by the prosecution that tried to refute it? i think that will benefit the defense in this case. jon: esther, she has testified she was essentially under the thumb of her then husband. that he was a manipulative, mean, vindictive guy and she

only went along with all of this because she was afraid that he would hurt her and hurt maybe her daughters. the problem though, maybe surfaced late last week, when the prosecution read love letters she had written him in jail after he had been arrested. >> that's a problem. sometimes your wednesday lawyer's worst enemy your own client and what their statements are. she said from jail, where she is presumably protected from the influence of grant hayes that she still loves him and thinks about him often which is what was in the letters. that is a problem for the defense. however, their answer to that was that the letters were sent to her in-laws who have custody of her children or her child. so, i think she is trying to just maintain a relationship with the in-laws, so they will continue to provide information about the child. and so the information she put about tell grant i love him, may not have been really because she

loves him but just to maintain some type of relationship with her in-laws. jon: does that, jonna, does that fit the facts in will a jury buy a story like that? oh, i only did this, i only said i loved him because i wanted to make sure i continued to get photos of my children? >> i don't know if that came out on direct or cross-examination but it is plausible that she could have had such a manipulative relationship with her husband that some people in those types of relationships, they could get battered emotionally or physically and still love the person who is doing the battering and that might fit psychologically with her profile. so you know, i don't think the jury will hang its hat on the fact she was still contending to love her husband even after she was behind bars. they have different facts to the grapple with like, when did she know when the victim was dead and did she or did she not help dispose the body and why? jon: i want to get your take on

a panel we had last week. we had all-female panel. this is jury with nine female members on it. i just assumed women would be more understanding, more compassionate toward a women who is saying i only participated in this crime because this guy was abusive and i was afraid of him. but, esther, our panelas week said they think women on juries tend to be tougher than men on other women? do you agree? >> yes. in my experience that is exactly correct. women are generally harsher when it comes to judging other women than men would be because the women would put themselves, the jurors would put themselves in that situation, say, huh, would i fall prey to this manipulative man? no i wouldn't so she shouldn't have. some of the criticism is not justified or not fair but i think it is human nature but i find it to be true when i select juries, that women are usually harsher? jon: your take on that question.

>> women will resonate with any woman who is doing what they can to protect their cubs. if they buy the version they will probe app probably side along a mapped today hayes, if she did what she did to protect her kids and his as well. jon: this case goes to the jury after closing arguments. we'll keep our viewers updated. jonna, esther, thank you. >> jon, thank you. jenna: always a gentlemen, giving women so much credit we don't deserve according to the lawyers, right? jon: i would think there would be some sympathetic women on the jury, i really do but maybe not. jenna: we'll see what they come up with and a lot of dynamics at play. we spent hundreds of billions of dollars hoping to kick-start our economy five years ago so did the president's stimulus package deliver what was promised. "wall street journal" economics writer steve moore joins us with that. lake michigan is liking like the arctic circle.

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jon: still to come this hour, do you know what today? it was five years ago today that president obama signed into law the sweeping stimulus bill.

it was almost a trillion dollars of your taxpayer money. was it wisely spent? we'll get into that. and this nasty winter causing more ice to cover the great lakes. what the coast guard is doing to keep commerce moving. and a presidential look at america's pastime, the favorite teams of president obama and his predecessors. jenna: the president signed into law a massive $830 billion stimulus plan meant to rejuvenate the economy. so what exactly did we get for that taxpayer money? the unemployment rate in february of 2009 was at 8.3%. peaks at 10% in october of that year. today officially it's 6.6%. that doesn't include the number of americans who lost their jobs and simply gave up looking for work. labor participation rate still near record lows now and 3% lower than five years ago. five years ago as well the number of unemployed americans hovered just below $13 million.

today $10.2 million and the number of americans on food stamps has exploded, rising from ruffle roughly 32 million five years ago to more last year. steve, did we get what we paid for? was it a god -- good investment? >> it was not. the stimulus bill, that was nearly a trillion dollarsexactl day was maybe the most expensive policy mistake ever made in washington. you know, you cited some of those numbers, jenna, on the unemployment rate and jobs created. if you look what the president and his economic advisers told us was going to happen five years ago, you remember this, we were going to have three million more jobs, unemployment rate of less than 6% by now, get people back into jobs. we spent hundreds of billions of dollars on unemployment insurance, medicaid expansion, green envy subsidies, food

stamps, every program virtually across the board got massive increases and the economy didn't improve. we had a recovery but it was the meekest we've had since the end of world war ii. jenna: it's easy to forget how truly frightening those days really were. i know you covered it, and i covered it as well. there were mornings you got into work and you thought, is the banking system going to survive? is there any way to truly know we would have been better off if we didn't pass the stimulus? >> that's a great question. you never know what would have happened. i think the economy would have combrufed faster. i think if we had done other things like tax cuts for businesses, i think we would have created more jobs. but here is the problem. after spending all of this money, jenna, there's a view in washington that service free money. i call it tooth fairy economics, that the money comes down from the tooth fairy but you have to pay the bills and here is the

problem. we've spent all the money. all the money has been spent and now all we have to show is a trillion dollars of debt that we're going to have to pay back and our children and grandchildren so we still haven't even absorbed the full cost of what this is going to impose on the u.s. economy in future years. jenna: top economic adviser at the white house during the time of the first term of the president has this to say about why we're not recovering faster. let's take a lesson. >> the reason the recovery, now we're getting a little momentum but the reason it's been so slow is we had a bubble, the main drivers of growth of the 2000s were fundamentally not sustainable and false. and if economy can't go back to doing what it was doing before the recession began, if it has to shift industries and shift geographies, that takes a long time. >> he's echoing an editorial posted in "the washington post" that is it en titled, economists in the dark, that were in this

unchartered territory. we're not sure what economic policies really work, which ones do not and where exactly our economy is going. do you feel we're as lost as some may portray it? we can't go where we were but we're not sure where we're going? >> he is repeating this new line that we're in this hugely deep recession and it will take years and years and years to get out of but remember, that's not what they told us back when they passed the stimulus five years ago. their own economic analysis said we would boom out of the recession, we would create several millions of jobs in the first couple of years that never materialized. you remember this, jenna. remember joe biden running around the country saying we're going to have the summer of recovery? that was four years ago and according to the latest fox news poll i saw a week or two ago, 2/3 of americans still think we're in a recession so where is there any evidence that this trillion dollars combrufed the economy? we ought to get back to deregulating the economy, cutting taxes, helping

businesses repeal obamacare. those things will get the economy back on track. jenna: and one wondering if that's the legacy of the stimulus, a move towards other policies or not and that's the big question that perhaps we don't know at this time. >> i hope so. if anything good comes out of this, it's that we never do this again. the economic formula that you spend government money to revive the economy, that has now been totally discredited. jenna: great to see you as always. thanks >> thanks, jenna. jon: great lakes looking more like a frozen tundra. bitter cold winter causing ice to cover more of the lakes this year than any of the past two decades. the coast guard is trying to keep shipping lanes open for roudz critical for commerce. mike is live on lake michigan. >> well, goes without saying that it's been an unusually rough winter, especially given everything you see behind me. just like the roadways, when the

weather locks up the shipping lanes on the great lakes commerce locked up as well so the nation depends on the ice breakers with the u.s. coast guard. with ice on the great lakes nearing record levels, the crew of the ice breaker biscayn ebay finds themselves close to chicago. you can see it from the satellites. great lakes are nearly 80% frozen. usually the normal tugs can handle the ice but this year it's getting a little too thick for them so the coast grd had to bring in an ice breaker to help. >> ice is broken from the weight of the cutter. even the wake is enough to cause a shipping lane. >> we're into now is windrows. the wind has driven the ice to stack up on itself. it's thick. the big ships can't get through

this stuff and this is what they need the coast guard out here to break. when it gets thick like this, all the ice breaker can do is ram the ice, back up, ram it again until they carve a path. >> sometimes that takes several hours to get through a field like this. >> home heating oil, coal, building supplies all come to the state over the gret lakes, something in great demand. road salt would be locked up in the ice if they weren't out breaking the ice. we'll probably be depending on the crew of the ice breakers for some time to come. back to you. jon: what a story. thank you, mike. jenna: back to political strategy now, house democrats apparently trying to divert attention away from the new health care law with the long shot tactic to force republicans to vote on immigration reform, minimum wage increase, a long list. can they do that when they don't have the majority in the house? we'll ask that coming up. abraham lincoln is often

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jon: avalanche warnings in effect out west after two skiers are killed in colorado. secretary of state john kerry stirring the pot on climate change, even comparing skeptics to people who once believed the either was flat. and another data breach putting people's information at risk. this one targets the popular crowd website kick starter. jenna: we're going to take a look at a president. abraham lincoln is often called one of the greatest presidents of our history for helping to end slavery and for guiding our country through the civil war. he's not as well known for his foreign policy but our next guest says that shouldn't be the case. we have insays it's lincoln's

restraint that helped pave the global power. rink -- he believed in the american experiment. but he wasn't a crusader. he prevented diplomatic downey brooks from morphing into war. the author joins me now. let's to get to in your piece, kevin. i want to start with something that you say this about lincoln. lincoln felt the pressures of the world so acutely that he could sometimes knock -- not get out of bed. >> that's true. out of the crisis in fort sumter, he literally couldn't get out of bed and foreign affairs wasn't part of this. we think of the civil war as north versus south but he had to deal with a series of crisis right at the beginning of the war with britain, france and

spain eventually, with russia even was a rising power during this period and we don't think of lincoln in that context. jenna: we don't. why not? >> there's two reasons. one, the civil war, you know, is a massive war raging on american soil and that's something he had to deal with. also lincoln had a very powerful and strong secretary of state in william henry so he delegated a lot of stuff to seward to deal with. jenna: is that one of the take aways from your look at lincoln's presidency, his power to delegate? >> that's part of it. he delegated a lot to seward but what was important to me is the things that lincoln did do in foreign affairs are really important. one of them is the emancipation proclamation. he viewed the emancipation proclamation partly to reach across the atlantic, speak directly to ordinary europeans, french and britains to try to put pressure on their statesmen to keep the powers out of war.

if britain ar france had convened in the war, it could have change the the course of the war. jenna: and you also point out that he had never been to europe. we often think of him as this rural lawyer. he didn't speak any foreign language, never been to europe but his wife was key to his view of the world as well. explain how. >> that's right. she grew up in lexington, kentucky. she went to a school where the students folk french. she was very cosmopolitan and she tried to get her candidates appointed to diplomatic positions. she meddled in foreign affairs. foreign affairs is really about people, a human story. that's what drew me to this. you have these amazing diplomats, people like lincoln's guy in st. pete pete that walks around st. petersburg getting in fist fights. jenna: a good american. >> he has to deal with his wife trying to get her people appointed to their own diplom

diplomatic appoint manies. jenna: what do you think really characterizes lincoln's foreign policy and who do you think embodies that philosophy today? >> well, the biggest thing, i think, that lincoln did is he was a master of patience, of knowing when to act and when not to act. he compared his decision making process to watching a pear on the tree. he said he would watch it, he would watch it, he would watch it and then pluck the pear. he would make his decision. that's just a really important skill in foreign relations. changes in the international power grid happen glacially. jenna: one wonders if anyone has a great deal of patience these days if they did during lincoln's time. thank you so much. jon: a new blast of winter weather starting to affect much of the country. we'll tell you where these storms are headed. the latest forecast from the fox extreme weather center coming up. plus a different kind of political hardball. we'll look at some of our

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jon: new concern now whatever strategy the u.s. has regarding syria is simply failing. civil war continues to rage, leaving more than 135,000 people dead. a second round of peace talks ending over the weekend with no resolution. the talks sponsored by the u.s. and russia.secretary of state j now accuses syrian president asad of stonewalling. >> we still believe there is no military solution with respect to syria. there has to be a political resolution. but right now, asad has not engaged in the discussions.

they have refused to open up one moment of discussion legitimately about the transition government. jon: let's bring in mike chaemi. mike em, we mentioned that russia is cosponsor of these talks. russia is a huge player, has a lot of influence over president asad. why are these talks going nowhere? >> well, jon, it shouldn't be surprising these talks haven't gone anywhere. what the u.s. is calling for is for president asad to step down and allow a transitional government to take his place. the president asad feels he can win on the ground instead of negotiate himself out of power and the u.s. hasn't done much to change that. jon: the president said asad has to go. >> well, that's right but of course, it seems that he has a different view and right now, as

i said, he believes he's winning and we do see that syrian regime forces since 2013 when the chemical weapons was concluded, they've grown stronger even though they haven't been able to defeat the opposition on the ground. jon: the costs in human terms of this war is staggering. more than 135,000 dead, 10 1/2 million homeless, many of them have fled to neighboring countries. what is going to be the straw finally, i guess, that breaks this thing and causes it to -- causes somebody to negotiate a solution? >> that's right. even though the regime forces have gotten more effective, the opposition has proven resilient and so the fighting has ground on. the human toll has increased, the regional stillover has increased and we have the threat of foreign fighters returning to the west and carrying out terrorism here or elsewhere and really, that's only going to change when the balance tips, when either we degrade asad's

strength and his forces or sufficiently strengthen the opposition so that, again, parties feel as though the negotiating table is the place they have to achieve their objectives rather than on the battlefield. that's going to require a whole new strategy for the united states, one which is going to be, frankly, tougher than the one we're pursuing now. jon: russians cannot be looking at this thing and seeing, you know, somehow calling it a god thing. are they? >> for russia this is about preserving influence in the middle east. it's about sort of pushing back on sort of the u.s. achieving our objectives there and various other factors. then i think that russia may feel that, yes, it's winning its war in syria special -- essentially. so far russia has successfully protected its client there in damascus. jon: and a victory for asad is a victory for the iranians as well, correct?

>> that's right. syria is vital to iran's whole security strategy to project power into the mediterranean area as a way to keep israel, other potential enemies occupied so for iran, iran has provided a lot of help, a loft training, a lot of advice to the syrian regime and probably feels as though it's prevailing. jon: awful situation with no end in site. thank you. jenna: what's more american than baseball? jon: nothing. jenna: i know you're thinking football but some surprising facts about who the presidents, past and present, have rooted for. president obama, of course, supports the chicago white sox. since he still has a home in chicago. but as a kid in hawaii, he cheered for the on oakland a's. president bush was once a managing partner of the texas rangers but originally a fan of the colt 45s, the team that would become the astros and president clinton grou up listening to the cardinal games.

and remains a red bird loyalist to this day but also roots for the cubs because of his wife hillary and george h.w. bush grou up in connecticut and became a red sox fan mostly because of hall of famer ted williams. jon: you've got hillary rooting for the cubs and president obama rooting for the white sox. jenna: we could do a full four to five minutes what that means for the political strategy. jon: all right. health care in this country, of course, is changing but for some doctors, it means the end of private practice, at least as they know it. we'll take a look at why and how that could impact their patience. also the future of coal. why new government regulations could mean a big hike in the cost of your energy.

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report from north korea, from the shocking human rights allegations to lavish spending, you won't believe what he's shelling out millions and millions of dollars for. also kick starter raised more than $850 million from pledges and now word of a major security breach. the customer data now at risk. we'll tell you about that. plus here we go again. another winter storm hitting millions across the country. how bad will it be this time around? that's the big question today. it's all happening now. but first to politics. leading house democrats throwing a hail mary to try to force votes on immigration reform and minimum wage increase. hello. happy monday to you. jon: it is a holiday as well. enjoy your presidents day. i'm jon scott. long shot tactic called a discharged petition. making it happen will not be easy. democrats would need two dozen republicans to side with them on a both after they get back from a break next week. vote also could tarnish the

reputation of republicans if they are seen as blocking these initiatives. joining us is the executive editor of real clear politics. so tom, what's the idea here? force republicans to take some of these votes and get them on the record? >> absolutely. when you're in the minority in the house, you're in a tough position. it's an election year. they've been facing bad news with obamacare and the like. they're trying to generate headlines that are favorable to them so they're not always playing defense between now and november. jon: why not come up with some things that both sides agree on? why go after some of these hot button topics? >> they're obviously trying to change the issue in their favor, issues they feel they have the advantage over republicans on. and the minimum wage is one where they think they have the upper hand. they want to put -- again, put republicans on record saying they oppose the minimum wage.

democrats are saying they've already ruled out this idea, you know, give the middle class a wage increase, pay increase and they want to make republicans plain to their constituents back home why they wouldn't want to do that. so it's a pretty simple, pretty obvious, pretty transparent and pretty clear it's not going to work but they will be able to point to something and say, look. republicans are against these two thing. jenna: they're not going to get the votes. you would need a couple of dozen republicans to vote with them. so is this just an exercise in wheel spinning then? >> well, it's gamesmanship, p.r., what you do in an election year. there's a lot of maneuvering going on, among republicans and democrats, and lock. republicans want to nationalize this election around the big issues and they have the upper hand right now. obamacare continues to not be the success story the democrats need it to be at this point.

you have a president with job approval ratings in the low 40's which is bad news for a lot of democrats in the senate but also in the house. right now it looks like there won't be much change in the house. democrats need 17 seats to win back the house. looks like at most it will be a couple of seats either way and in the senate, you have republicans looking at needing six seats and probably getting the six seats and taking control of the senate. jon: there's a whole lot of horse trade that go goes on in politics. just last week, the president wanted that debt ceiling lifted with no strings attached. the republicans in the house gave it to him and this is the thanks they get? >> well, they give it to them. boehner tried to get his caucus on board with a couple of deal sweeteners. he couldn't do it. it's not as if, you know, republicans -- most of the republicans voted against that. there is -- as i said, there's a lot that's going to go on between now and november as each party tries to put themselves in

the best possible position to maximize their gains or minimize their losses as the case may be for democrats in the senate come november. we'll see this on a daily basis here between now and the election. jon: as you sit here today, obamacare is still the number one issue. >> it's obamacare, the president's job approval rating and the way the economy is. all the rest is sort of chatter and smoking mirrors. those three issues will determine the outcome in november. jon: a lot of shiny objects that the politicians want voters to pay attention to. thank you. jenna: from that to this. secretary of state john kerry mocking climate change skeptics during his visit to indonesia yesterday saying people that don't believe the polar ice drops are melting from human causes to people that once believed the earth was flat. climate change is as great of a threat as terrorism and weapons of mass destruction. our chief congressional

correspondent is live in washington with more on this story. mike? >> secretary of state john kerry told the people of indonesia they're on the front lines of climate change. indonesia is third on the list of world's largest emitters of green house gases and here is part of how secretary kerry made his pitch. >> in a sense, climate change can now be considered another weapon of mass destruction, perhaps even the world's most fathersome weapon of mass destruction. >> when you're talking weapons of mass destruction, that brings up nuclear, chemical and biological attacks and certainly severe weather can prove to be deadly but the comparison has raised some eyebrows and gotten plenty of attention. kerry says the scientific debate over climate change is settled in 97% of scientists say the problem is real. while the united states has shown interest in cutting carbon emissions, cleaning up the air and water, developing countries like china and india have been less willing to do so.

secretary of state says the u.s. has made strides in dealing with climate change. in the middle of a rough winter, one says that it's called glebal warming. >> for the obama administration now to be using every bad weather event as justification for e.p.a. regulatory action, justification for billion dollar climate funds is not only misusing science but it's also playing political foot wall with people's lives suffering from extreme weather events. >> that's a reference to president obama when he asked for a fund to help a community's plan and break through technologies. it's expected to be part of his budget proposal next month. jenna: thank you. jon: new security concerns linked to the olympic games as screening in places like hotels and at the site of some games is

being described as uneven, with guests walking unchecked and soda bottles making their way through security check points after they were banned just two weeks ago. while no attacks have been reported during the games, the risks still remain as islamic militants have staged attacks elsewhere and have threatened the game. jenna: north korea accuses the rogue regime systemic, widespread and gross human rates violations. that includes state sponsored kidnappings and more than 100,000 people detained in political prison camps equipped with water tanks, long needles and shackles used to hold detainees upside down. the report found that the leader's lavish spending even exceeds his father's which had averaged about $300 million a year but in 2012 is skyrocketed to more than double that with money going to things like a massive private movie theater and 20,000 dvd's including these

movies, jon. rambo and friday the 13th. jon: what a story. there's growing unrest in venezuela. hundreds of people taking to the streets there demanding the resignation of the president there. they're outraged over the rising cost of living in their dunt vi as well as the deaths of anti-political protestors. >> the government of venezuela is bliming the united states for demonstrations in the city. demonstrations that have turned violent in several days. last night again it was protestors with rocks against police are tear gas. many of those protestors university students but they're joined more and more over middle class upset over the high cost of living as well as the soaring crime rate. one of the key opposition figures, the former mayor has gone through hiding. lopez has said he'll turn

himself in tomorrow after leading a wide scale protest march. on tuesday, i'll be there to face it. i have nothing to fear. i haven't committed any crime. >> u.s. officials have cautioned venezuela there could be, quote, negative consequences if lopez is arrested. jon: steve in miami, thank you. jenna: a new weather related danger. killer av lafraverages. we'll show you that. solar power in the spotlight as the heat gets sped up. what are we really get forking more than a billion dollars subsidy? we're live with that story. why do people count on sunsweet prune juice to stay fit on the inside? it's made only from prunes, noth it works, simple as that. it's a natural source of fiber and 5 essential vitamins.

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through the midwest today and heading for the northeast where it will dump more snow in areas that have impairly finished digging out from the last storm and this is amid a new danger in the pacific northwest. we have two spots to get covered. will will talk about the avalanches but we start with janice dean in the fox weather center on what's to come. >> may i go on strike? jenna: this is when we need you most. >> can i hibernate until springtime? our next round of snow is going to make people a little angry in the northeast. we're watching computer models very carefully. looks like a little more snow is anticipated for the new york city area. there's a your heads up. northwest, we'll talk about that. they're getting another winter storm there. across the midwest, this one will visit us across the northeast tomorrow morning for the rush hour. you can see heavy snow over minneapolis, down towards chicago. then you see that icy mix pushing through st. louis where we have freezing rain advisories and accumulation expected and

then we're going to march eastward across pennsylvania and we're waiting on the national weather service to get a look at the new computer models because we're going to start to see advisories. this is tuesday at 6:00 a.m. there's d.c., there's philadelphia, new jersey, new york city right in time for the rush hour and an all snow event for several hours. there's 9:00 a.m., still with us until, i would say, 4:00 p.m. there's long island and then up towards new england for their afternoon rush hour up to new england and boston. let's look at the forecast precipitation. this is one computer model seeing ice accumulation, of course, for parts of missouri, illinois, indiana and then as we head into the northeast so new york, you're right on the cusp here. several inches of snow. could we see more than six inches? i don't think so but three to five not out of the question for a short period of time in the morning and early afternoon.

philadelphia, looks like you could see several inches. d.c., mainly a light dusting, rain event and new england, we could get higher accumulations, especially in the mountains. i'll end on a good note. we're going to warm up as we head through the work week. 50's in d.c., hopefully into thursday and then for new york city, tuesday we'll have to watch. i think this might be too warm because we're going to get that snow event. of course, we'll fine tune the forecast but 40's wednesday and thursday and there's boston as well so this next round coming, we'll have to watch it very carefully. there's the future radar again just to show you that storm system moving in around the rush hour, d.c. a mix here, snow event we think for philadelphia and new york until around 12:00 p.m. so the morning rush hour we're going to have to really watch for some of these big cities. a lot of folks need to get into work and -- jenna: or get on the plane.

another travel delay for a lot of the country. >> these have been really sneaky systems. one moment we think it's a light dusting and a few hours later we're getting three to six inches in a short period of time. jenna: makes it all the more fun, right? >> i hope so. i would like to go on strike. jenna: just keep it together. we'll be with you the next several weeks before spring. >> bad weather map. jenna: it's going to get better. thank you. jon: all that snow is causing avalanche problems in the pacific northwest and the west with deadly snow slides reported in colorado as well as oregon. all sparking fears that back country skiers might be taking their life in their hands. >> hi, jon. in less than a week, there have been three fatal avalanches in colorado alone and what's happening is the area is basically seeing so much snow in the last two weeks that it's

become extremely dangerous for skiers or snow boarders who are going into the back country. we saw evidence of that on saturday when authorities say that seven skiers went into the back country on star mountain. two ended up being killed by an avalanche. three ended up in the hospital with several broken bones and there was one report of a skier with a collapsed lung. >> they got lucky. there's no cell service up here as well. one man that made the call, he was on top and when he hit the button, it happened to bounce off and came through. >> this was in the wage of two avalanches last monday. one killed a skier and one killed a snowmobiler. basically what happens is all the heavy snow lours back country skiers and snow boarders to areas that are off the beaten path, away from typical ski slopes and prone to avalanches

during this time of year. >> we had a lot of new heavy snow. actually, it's like three to five feet of snow in the last few days sitting on top of a lower density snow and a pretty thin snow pack. >> you have to be careful. there's no doubt you can't mess with mother nature. >> and to give you an example of that, we had video of a skier who was overtaken by an avalanche. you can see him having a great day. that's when he's taken out by a slide. he's buried in snow. he survived, luckily. every year avalanches kill about 150 people worldwide. this year alone in the western united states, eight people have died in avalanches in the last 10 days. jon: these are not people skiing at the ski areas. these are back country skiers. >> that's right. probably not me and you. jenna: a new security breach online with the cyber attack at kick starter.

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jenna: quick alert out of an area northwest of tampa, florida called holiday, florida. police are responding to a shooting at a -- what sounds like a rehab sistcenter. it's in holiday, florida. a victim has been taken to the hospital. we don't know anything about the shooter. all we know is there has been one victim. there is a trauma alert and that victim was sent to nearby hospital. there's no details of the shooting. we don't know if there's any sort of relationship between the shooter and the victim at this time and there have been no

names released. but again, because we don't know too much about the shooter, whether or not that shooter has been apprehended by police, we'll bring you more information as we get it. a shooting at west coast spine and injury center in holiday, florida. we'll keep you posted as we hear more. jon: right now a lot of people shocked at their utility bills in this very cold winter. if you think your electric bill is high now, wait until the new e.p.a. regulations take effect. new guidelines on coal emissions and plant closures could hike wholesale electricity prices 80%. is this the government's way of forcing americans to use alternative energy? chief washington correspondent is live in our nation's capital with a look at that. >> good afternoon. environmental regulations proposed or enacted by the obama administration will not only cost energy suppliers more but will cause more of them to shut down for good.

one proposal still in the public comments stage would require all coal burning power plants in the future to be built with so-called carbon capture and storage technology. but this technology itself is still essentially in its infancy and the mandate is likely to add significantly to the cost of operating such plants so acknowledged a senior energy department official in testimony before the house energy and commerce committee last week. >> all of these carbon captured sequestration technologies add cost to these co-plans. could you all give the committee or sub committee kind of a baseline estimate of how much it adds to the cost? >> typically we express these costs as a range. so for the first generation technology that dr. clara was mentioning earlier, we're looking at $70 to $90 a ton. in that context, that looks like

a 70 or 80% increase on the wholesale price of electricity. >> at the same time, administration so-called maths rule which was enacted two years ago is set to take effect in april 2015. it requires coal burning power plants to make steep productions in the mercury, acid gases and toxic metals they emit in the air. here is what the u.s. energy information administration or e.i.a. projected two months ago about the number of coal powered plants that will shut down as a result. and here is what that same federal agency is now projecting. a major surge, if you will. >> over the last couple of years we've seen the premature forced closure of several hundred of those plants which would be about 20,000 mega watts of power. in the next three years we'll see almost another 40,000 mega

watts shuttered due to primarily e.p.a. regular lags. >> last year alone, about 3% of all coal fired capacity in this country was retired. jon: james rosen in washington, thank you. jenna: after more than a billion dollars in government subsidies, new questions about what your tack -- tax dollars got for solar energy. william? >> well, this plant, you know, some of these solar plants are producing power but economical, not really. especially the solar thermal plant that opened last week in the desert near las vegas. unlike conventional solar panels, that convert the sun's energy directly into electricity, they have hundreds of thousands of mirrors that focus on a single spot, boiling water up to 1,000 degrees, driving steam engines to generate enough electricity for 140,000 homes. supporters say it does for solar

what the hoover dam did for hydroelectric power, plugging in new energy source directly into the existing utility grid. >> this is the kind of project that i think we'll look back on years from now as a real signature project for our nation. >> this project is unequivocally without a doubt would not have been built without the federal government support in the form of the federal loan guarantee program. >> critics call this a white elephant that would not have been built if not for $1.6 billion in federal loans and a mandate that utilities buy renewables even though they'll pay double or triple the price of coal or natural energy. rooftop solar systems don't require a big up front federal subsidy. the bottom line, the promise in

2009 that 400 or so solar power plants blanket the southwest, not happening. fewer than 20 were actually not all consumers want to pay more just because something is green and without the subsidies. investors are not saying it's not profitable. some environmentalists are backing away from this type of plant, upset at number one, the five square mile footprint, number two, the ugly view, number three, use of water and finally, that birds, they think the solar panels are a lake. when they fly down, they get burned up and die. so that's not a good thing for renewable power. they're dealing with it. jenna: that's a horrible thought. i wasn't expecting that. got to consider all the variables, though. thank you. jon: nbc is coming under fire for its olympics coverage. did you catch this? american skier bodie miller brought to tears by questions from the nbc correspondent. did the reporter go too far?

media panel weighs in on that. and u.s. president runs the gamut in leadership styles from calm and cool to outspoken and passionate. but one thing that binds them, faith. a look at presidential devotion to the bible and what that says about america.

jenna: one interesting take on presidents day but not what divides presidents but what binds so many great american leaders together. and according to this writer,

troy writes the continuing presidential devotion to the bible has been a constant throughout american history, one that connects us directly to our founding fathers. even as the cultural staples of the founding era are gone away, the bible has remained preeminent in american life. troy is an author and adjunct fellow and our guest now. what brought you to this topic? >> well, i did a book about presidents and popular culture, how they have evolved through tv and twitter and i found what many presidents read was the bible and they all had some kind of special relationship with the bible and that's something that persisted to this day. jenna: what stands out most to you? when you say a special relationship with a bible, where you can really see the president, whoever he is, impacted by his reading of it? >> oh, sure.

lincoln when he was growing up had access to only a few books but he was an obssessive reader and he read certain books over and over again. one was the bible and he knew the bible very well and he used a certain sort of common but elevated language he got from the bible. for example, when he said four score and seven years ago, that was a biblical stand of a man's lifetime. he knew his audience had also read the bible and used it to connect with them. jenna: so the language was a way that he was able to adapt it to his leadership. our president, of course, has used president lincoln's bible on a few occasions. how does president obama used bible today? >> there's been a lot of speculation about it. he does have a daily devotional that joshua who is a white house -- former white house aide sends him but it's kind of a non traditional daily devotional and it includes passages from pop

culture figures like johnny cash so it's kind of not your traditional bible lesson. jenna: and it was interesting to read in your column in the "wall street journal" about where the bible wasn't that it is now and air force one is a place where there wasn't a bible and there is one now. explain to our viewers that story. >> it's actually what the problem, there was no bible on air force one because when john f. kennedy was tragically shot in 1963, they had to swear in lyndon johnson on the plane. there was no bible on board. so they took the oath on a missile which is a catholic prayer book as we all know that kennedy was catholic, johnson was not but that oath was taken and then when gerald ford was president, he discovered that there was not a bible regularly on air force one and he insisted that it be placed in the state room and it's now an air force tradition that the bible is there to this day. jenna: we often talk about the separation of church and state and because eve charted presidents and the relationship

to the bible, how do you see american leadership when it has had the bible as a part of many different leaders? >> yeah. i think that the bible was important to our founders and it's important to our nation. i don't think it's the establishment of a religion to find a source of wisdom that people of many religions -- i am jewish and i look to the bible and my christian friends do as well so i think it's great to have a unifying text and i don't think it's a threat to the separation of church and state. jenna: great article, great read. great to see you. thank you very much. jon: uncertainty over the health care market driving american doctors to abandon their private practices. where they're turning now for employment and what it could mean for patients. the new guy is loaded with prote!

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the emergency management agency says the roof came crashing down during freshman orientation at a university campus. take a look at these photos. hundreds of students in there at the time. there's still work to be done. heavy snowfall is believed to be the cause of the collapse but officials are still investigating. jon: has nbc's olympic coverage gone too far to get permanent stories from the athletes? that's the question raised by media analysts at the "new york times" and other publications. after one reporter brought american skier miller to tears questioning him after he lost his brother just last year. joining us to talk about it, editor of the national review. alan colmes is with us, host of the alan colmes show, both fox news contributor. his brother also had hoped to be at these games in snow boarding. he died, i guess, in early 2013,

some kind of a seizure after he had a motorcycle accident. he had been prone to them, died natural causes but obviously the reporter was pressing bodie miller about it and a lot of people don't like what happened. >> yeah. and i understand asking him about it because he's been very open about what this loss meant to him but this felt like badgering to me. this felt like trying to break him down to get the shot of him crying. felt like exploitation and i had a very visceral reaction against it. >> very thin line. if you know you're going to be questioned and you know you're going to come up and a reporter wants the emotional reaction so i can see both sides of it. it's a very fine line and i understand the need for reporters to be sensitive, too, and if it rubs viewer the wrong way, it's probably not a good thing. jon: one of the things that brought criticism is that they could have edited it out. this was not live.

this was taped eight or 10 or 12 hours earlier sochi time and they chose to put it in anyway. >> that's another indication they wanted this. they wanted him on his knees. they wanted him crying so they could get the shot and play up the emotional narrative and they obviously always want the pack stories of the athletes which is understandable. it humanizes them and makes it more interesting but this went too far. jon: we put up a flash of a tweet that i received this morning when i asked viewers what they think about all of this. mel writes, she sensed his emotions and kept at it until he cracked. kind of sad, really. cynthia wrote, it is her job to report what is our business. bode's gref over his brother's death is not our business. then a couple of responses from facebook. rosy writes, this was a display of the worst journalism i've ever seen. it was downright shameful. and stacie taylor writes, i started yelling, leave him alone at the tv, stupid questions, very unprofessional.

turned it off after that. and finally, one last one, victoria murray says sometimes people should learn to shut up. >> i've never been told that. but do you think that anybody tweeted who agreed this was the appropriate thing to do? most people seem to have the same reaction. i think you're right in that the network, they didn't edit it out. they want the emotions because they think that gets viewers. jon: questions were asked in a respectful way. you lose your brother, a guy whomented to be on the podium as a snow boarder. you know, yeah, it was a respectful question but clearly -- >> she reaches out and comforts him a little bit and he said afterwards that he didn't bear any grudges over it but the normal human reaction when someone is clearly upset about something you're doing or asking, you stop and you could have had plenty of emotion just there. you didn't have to break him down the way she did. jon: reminds me of the episodes

of hannity and colmes. >> i always tried to make alan cry when i was a guest host. >> you never succeeded. jon: you had an interesting thought about your overall take. >> the thing i find more galling is the opening ceremonies, the whitewashing of communism. it's hideous that murdered millions of people and no one would talk that way about naziism. >> what do you expect they're going to do? they're going to be in the host country. >> talking about communism? what is there to say? repressed tens of millions of people. >> why are so many communists saying that vladmir putin is a great leader these days? >> that's a separate issue. >> certainly is. jenna: an asteroid is on track to come fairly close to earth. scientists say it's a size of three football fields but

there's no real danger it will hit our planet. any time we get a story like this, we get asked about it. here is more. >> hi. almost exactly one year since the most viewed meteor versus earth event ever which injured more than 1,000 people in russia, this time, fortunately, it's going to be a nearby fly by. this asteroid at its closest proximity to earth, early tomorrow and later tonight, that asteroid named 2,000 em 26 will be the distance between us and our moon multiplied by noon. that's two million miles away. the space telescope will begin live tracking tonight at 9:00 eastern that you can watch online. this is a large asteroid, nearly 900 feet long. that's three football fields or as big as an aircraft carrier which sits on the west side of manhattan. by comparison, that meteor that streaked and exploded over

russia last year was just 30 meters in diameter and scientists say that explosion carried more energy than a large atomic bombs which is why hundreds of millions of buildings were damaged. nasa and the jet propulsion laboratory in california actively on the hunt for potential planet killers the near earth object program and it continues to recruit other nations, universities, observatories, even astronomers to look up and out into our gl axe and beyond looking for threats. so far near 181,000 near earth objects have been identified and discovered. 868 of those with diameters of at least one kilometer. one way to save a planet from an incoming asteroid is capture it and redirect it using the gravity of an incoming spacecraft. that's a space mission that nasa is intend to go do in the early 2020's so about eight or 10 years from now where we'll send up a spacecraft, intercept

incoming asteroid, deflect its trajectory by using the gravity of the spacecraft and eventually land some astronauts on board that asteroid or meteor and take samples and bring it back to earth. big trick here is to spot and see these threats before the incoming threat sees us. jenna: we would like to be able to do that as well as we can. thank you. p jon: that one over russia was scary. there is growing evidence that doctors are on the move these days. we've told you before that many family doctors are simply closing their practices and moving to big companies. now it's even happening with some specialists. why? dr. london is here with her take next. (meow mix jingle)

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jon: thousands of american doctors finding themselves in a dilemma. changing health care market is causing many to take salaried positions with hospitals instead of clinics. dr. london writes in the "new york times," quote, i think the days of what i did in 1999 are over. i don't think that's possible anymore. the woman who wrote those words, dr. london, joins us now.

over why? >> it's a very different environment and it predates health care reform so i want to make this clear and it started even in the 1990's when i was in residency. we had the facility that i was at in oregon. we had somebody solely doing referrals because you needed to get insurance -- every insurance company is different in what they require, when you order an m.r.i. or you want them to see a consult, you know, a specialist, fighting to get paid. some of the stories i could tell from you when i was in practice were insane. so we're talking back even in 2000 where the private insurers all have little games to keep -- you pay your insurance company. they want to keep your money as long as they can to get interest and whatever else on it so they'll play little games where they'll automatically reject a claim. so here i am, a small physician and a small practice trying to get paid for a service i did and just like when you go to call your insurance company, you're on hold for a really long time,

so are we as providers so that means one of my employees is sitting on the telephone while i'm still trying to treat patients and take care of them. you end up as a small provider with a staff size you can't possibly support so i got to a point where i was either going to have to grow very, very large or take a position and i opted on the latter. jon: so you spent your time in med school studying the human body, not necessarily earning an mba, for instance. >> exactly and that climate is changing. it used to be pretty simple. it wasn't all these games. in the old days, you know, you submitted a claim and they paid you which seems pretty fair to me. i saw your patient. i treated them. just pay me for what i did. to have a claim rejected, one example, i saw a patient so there was an office visit in menopause and they tried to tell me that visit and diagnose is

doesn't go together. really? jon: that doctor is not necessarily going to be able to allow himself or herself with some big corporate entity. >> yes and no. so this has been an issue ongoing. this dates back for at least 20, 30 years that we've known there's a shortage in certain areas. this is where the u.s. health service corps comes in so the government will actually help pay off your student loans if you go practice in an area like that. jon: but you're still going to have those problems with billing and so forth. >> absolutely. there are -- because there's still referral centers so when i was in oregon, we were the referral center for most of the state. you can imagine. now, i did some of my proceed united nationses in very rural areas but those doctors were partly supported by the hospital, by the university because the ultimate referrals would go to them so it's still possible for even in rural town america for them to align themselves with whatever the

nearest major medical center is. and there will still be ones who want to be on their own and find a way to do itment we have a lot of different models being explored now. that's the advantage of health care reform is that c.m.s. has started a whole center for innovation. they're looking at different forms of reimbursement so doctors don't have to go through that. that's what we have to see. what's going to work in new york city is not the same in arkansas. jon: but it's likely people are going to see -- people who enjoyed a one-on-one relationship with their small, you know, office family practicer, that's going to way you think. >> probably. jon: thank you. >> thanks for having me. jenna: after a 12-year hiatus, jamaica bob sled team is on the track. what they're doing to get fans excited that involves a little reggae. we'll show you coming up. [ male announcer ] bob's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack, be sure to talk to your doctor

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welcome to hq, i am bill hemmer. >> i am heather childers in for alisyn camerota. it is five years to the day since president obama signed the economic stimulus package in to law. >> with a recovery package this size comes a responsibility to assure taxpayers that we are careful for the money they worked so hard to earn. i am a signing a team of managers to a sewn it is used wisely and well. >> how is that it group of managers working out. >> they must have been unlocked from their jobs. i don't think they showed up for work. >> how will history view the stimulus plan? >> it will be i think viewed as