>> i am heather childers in for alisyn camerota. it is five years to the day since president obama signed the economic stimulus package in to law. >> with a recovery package this size comes a responsibility to assure taxpayers that we are careful for the money they worked so hard to earn. i am a signing a team of managers to a sewn it is used wisely and well. >> how is that it group of managers working out. >> they must have been unlocked from their jobs. i don't think they showed up for work. >> how will history view the stimulus plan? >> it will be i think viewed as a failure.

it is done what obama care did for health care reform. it gave it a bad name. if we didn't spend enough and borrow enough. they are out of rational. he pursued other things it would be a far more successful president so. >> jennifer, this is a strong statement that came out from the white house. >> the recovery act had a substantial positive impact on the economy and avert a second great depression and make target investments after the act was fulled phased out. is it true? second great depression is where we were headed and do we know that? >> it was not the stimulus that did it. it was measures taken by president bush and chairman bernanke and secretary paulsen

that put measures together and there is an argument that those saved us. the idea that stimulus would have a lasting impact is counter to the argument that the impact is right then and there. that's why we were supposed to have a recovery because of shovel recovery jobs. and now it pays off in the future? that is a deep one. >> now you are in a second term, you have a economy that is for better or worse bumping along. speaker boehner said: rather than pushing solutions the president is serving up slogans and photoops. we need to restore america as a nation of builders. which one has a chaps of going

through and being approved? >> there is a burn of bills and boehner listed a bunch of them. the house passed them and now waiting for the senate. job training, who could be against that? it is a reform of all of our job programs. it should get a vote in the senate. it is ridiculous we have bills stacked up that the senate refused to act on. that one would be easiest for harry reid and the senate to move o. >> had it been a success we probably would not have talked about it today. from the washington post. nbill, where have the tax dollars gone in the past five years. jerry willis is on the fox business network. good morning jeri. >> good morning. >> the point of the stimulus was to get people back to work. did it work?

>> they didn't live up to the promises of the obama advisors who said by the end of 2013 unemployment would be back to five percent. it was at 6.7 percent. and if you look at people discouraged with the job market and it will be far high are than that. and rate participation is at record lows at 63 percent. even if you do have a jo remember that wages have fallen and everything that you buy in the grocery store have gone up. >> with all of the talk of transparency. that is a great question. the hoover dam and highway extension. it was an extension for wages for cops and teachers.

and then the president picked out special items this he liked that the green program and solyndra, remember that? and now wasteful spending 3 million to study a turtle crossing in northern florida. 219 to study women students what happens when they drink to which. don't think we need to dispense that money. >> there were recent polls that fox put together. how do people feel about the economy. is the worst over. the worst is yet to come according to the poll. 58 percent polled said it is going to get worse. snrgs heather, people are holding on to their money. a lot of folks keeping their money on the sideline. people are nervous and anxious and wondering if there is

another shoe to fall. >> how can the administration recover from this and the democrats. >> the democrats said we didn't spend enough. i don't so a way out of this box particularly given the performance on obama care. they will tout the improvement coming up months. nremember the last cbo report? people will be able to quit their full- time jobs and have a choice. >> that will carve 2 million jobs out of the question. that is ridiculous. we need to be adding to it. jeri willis, we appreciate it as always. >> fox news alert. we are learning more about the co-pilot hijacking his own plane. it was bound for italy and

headed for switzerland. >> we are picking up more information. that was a scary roadway for 200 people on the plane including 11 americans. the ethiopian airlines left the country with a final destination in rome when the co-pilot locked himself in behind the cockpit when the chief pilot tock a bathroom break and diverted the plane north to switzerland. he was demanding a sylum and the pilot was banging on the door. and the co-pilot threatened to crash the plane. it did land safely and the passengers got off. the 31-year-old co-pilot lowers

himself down on the tarmack with an emergency rope and facing 20 years in prison for hostage taking. the passengers mostly italian and americans and french were flown or bussed back in toitily. with a troubled scene in ethiopian that airline could take a harder look at pilot screening. in the wake of 9/11, the security of the flight crews has been heightened, but if it is an inside job there could be trouble as we saw today. >> thank you, greg. >> heather? >> fox weather alert and breaking for a new winter storm. a fast- moving system is taking aim in the u.s. and expected to

drop inches of snow in the northwest to the east. janice? say it is not true! >> i wish i could. i wish i could push the winter up to canada and my friends and family up there might not like that either. i want to point out the northwest getting another round of winter weather and this is affecting millions of people and moving northeast. rush hour, chicago, several inches of snow. and heavy snow south of you right now and freezing rain and or sleet. and there is chicago and east of minneapolis and the storm will move eastward to tomorrow and tomorrow afternoon. still waiting on the national weather service to give us advisories, we'll get a couple of inches of snow in the big cities. chicago, snow. and 63 inches of snow so far and

you typically so 40 in the season. and a warm up and then this one to watch. chicago, snow, and new york city 5:00 a.m. several inches of snow in a short period of time for new york and long iowa lapd and connecticut. keep that in mind for your rush hour tomorrow and we'll keep you posted on the national weather service. looking at a potential for freezing rain accum always and. new york, right on the area to so several inches of snow, again in a short period of time it should be out of here by 3 o'clock p.m. and it is new england's problem. heather, i really feel like a broken record. >> it keeps on coming. >> showing video it would be the same forecast for today. >> we still love you, janice. >> thank you.

>> and climate change, dangerous as a weapon of mass destruction and that's what secretary kerry seemed to suggest. >> and she has been charged of luring one man. the so- called craig's list killer claiming that there are more victims. are we dealing with a serial killer. >> and the snake- handling paster who turned his life in a reality tv star. >> i watched it happen. and he got bit and he dropped the snakes and picked it back up. could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods.

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a radio snake. happening in the church in kentucky. he later died at home. his son said his father refused medical treatment. >> now he was a firm believer. you get bit do i the home or god brings you true. god has a plan. and you can't change it. >> coots was known for appearing on the reality show snake salvation and he was 42 years old. >> when i think of the array of the global climate threats, think about this. terrorism, epidemics. poverty. proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, all challenges that

know no boards and the reality is climate change ranks up with them. >> secretary of state kerry spoking in indonesian over the weekend. john bolton is here with us. >> glad to be here. >> he said climate change is a weapon of mass destruction. in what sense? >> this is mushy thinking at best. people decided global warming was a national security threat. they anyhow they bring to mind the most severe threat that the country faces. now we compared it to weapons of mass destruction. and nuclear weapons and biological weapons. and i think this rhetorical scare campaign undercuts the point senator occury is trying to make. he is foolish.

>> five years ago it was global warming and it transitioned to climate change. how did that happen and why did that happen? >> i think some people think because the warming was not occurring. i think there is something else at work. it is the problem of global cooling that the answers that john kery and obama, it is more government control. it is a flavor of the day of how to government control. >> they argue that the extreme changes in weather need to be accounted for. i look at the great lakes, they are frozen. i can remember 5 or 10 years ago, i was told that the countries were going to disappear because the water is rising. >> i think 20 years ago global warming was an issue. don't try to interpret your

daily weather as a manatioifestation of global warming. the fact is, the earth does not have a correct temperature. the climate has changed in the earth's entire history. and even if mankind is contributing to global warming, the role is to what to do about it? if it is more centralized government control over the economy and more institutional institutions to govern life that is wrong. >> if we so the laws and rules and a kyoto treaty that was proposed. how do you change america without impacting change in china or russia or india or the developing world? >> that is an illusion.

china and india and the countries that are in substantial carbon emissions were never going to sign the agreement. we and the western europeans would restrict ourselves and lower our economic growth and 0 impact on global warming. until you get the carbon emissions problems to sign on if it is a problem it will not change. >> syria seems to be more of a mess than a week ago. what is happening there? >> you are seeing the vital interest of russia and iran playing themselves out. it is true for three years. it is illusion by clinton and kerry to think that russia would negotiate us out. the iranians would not allow assad to be overthrown without

spilling blood. >> is assad winning? >> i think he is winning. i don't think you can say for certain we know the outcome. >> thank you mr. ambassador. john bolton here. >> coming up, the president predicts that obama care might be pop fop in several years. that may not help the democrats. >> rescuers trying to free miners that are deep under ground. some say the miners don't want a rescue. >> the three-year-old with an iq setting a record that probably doesn't surprise the parents. >> we would be driving around the car and she resighted the bed-time stories. we are talking about a 25 page book and she would recite them exactly. diabetes like i do, you want a way to help minimize blood sugar spikes.

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she's three year old alexis martin and the youngest person to be accepted in the menza in arizona. aefrmg iq is 100 and alexis' tops 160. she began to show exceptional skills at two. the youngest to be admitted was two years old. we were thinking heather. >> we wondered what makes you a genius. >> we only have an hour's program. just an hour. >> okay. >> joke is on you. send me a tweet at bill hemmer. >> and send to me at heather

childers. >> let the genius flow. miners saved from a collapsed mine in south africa facing charges. they were working illegally in an abandoned gold mine. two are facing charges and an unknown number remaining in the deep tunnels because they are afraid to come out. they are streaming live with the latest details, paul? >> reporter: that you have locked up the behind me. they are coping a watchful eye in case more try to escape in the night. in all two men emerged since this drama began. what happens when they come up out of the surface? they have a thorough medical

check and those men two of them are spending the night in police cells and will start to a pore in court tomorrow. these men underground are desperate and the subject of a new movie, and this movie shoes you what happens under grouvenltd there are fights and murders and they fight over a loa f of bread. there are said to be thousands of miners underground police told us today. and illegal miners are often in the operating mines, and sundicates are said to bribe staff to let them down to work alongside legal miners and get out gold nuggets. they have to come out soon from the hole behind me, fox news

obtained a document and on this document, the mine owners are warning they are going to close shop for a second time. the people behind me they are within earshots. 300 illegal miners would be hearing me. do they come out and face arrest or face the risk of being entombed for a second time. >> paul, thank you. a build prediction by the president on obama care for the future. is that to late for the democrats. >> and helping military veterans getting their disability claims heard. a new proposal meant to helpitose who serve on the front line. >> what do you get when you think of a 90 foot. >> i will stay tuned.

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quick check of the head lines now. three embassy officials kicked out of venezuela. the government a kouzing them of

encourages government protest. >> keeping the prime minister from returning to work. 95 foot put to win a car. it is here in auburn. yes, sir. he won a car. >> looks better in slow motion. >> he had a good caddy. >> and sank a 95 foot putt. >> not a lot of hazards on that court. >> the hole was that big. and this guy was plucked from the audience and he got one shot and he won. >> congratulations. when asked about how he

liked the term obama care, he said i like it and i don't mind and five years from now. man, i am sure glad we have health care, there will be a bunch of people who don't call it obama care, they don't want me to get the credit. >> five years, and maybe that would help the democrats in reelection for november. larul larularsen. happy president's day. >> la res. is it time to plant the flag and take credit for obama care? >> i don't think so. one thing that will not get you in menza membership backing obama care. the president is so narrisitic he can't see the health care initiative failing five years

from now. he will be a multimillionaire with book deals and speaking arrangements. and the democrat party will be left with the wreckage of this. if it were true the problems with obama care might be getting smaller, he might be looking better in the future. right now there is more disastrous roll out from this. i don't so how it gets people in office. >> richard, talk about that. the democrats tremendousesed it would create jobs and not touch medicare and they promised it would lower health care costs for everyone. that hasn't happen. how do the democrats distance themselves from that. >> no question and lars can go on for years and years how it should roll out and i agree. but the numbers show the lowest

amount of people who don't have health care. of that 16 mill people benefitting from the health care act. we need to iron the shirt harder and five years from now. the american people will say that. >> more starch is all that richard is ordering up here. in november. i will give you a chance. do they run on it or toward it or from it. >> i think they run screaming from it like their hair is on fire. richard with all due respect. 6 million people cancelled and 3 million signed up. that tells me throw million. >> no, no, no. >> hold on, richard, hold on richard. let me finish. people are paying higher premiums and higher deductibles and all of the things they don't need. like the 60-year-old couple who has maternity care they don't need and paying more money for

the deductible they will be less likely to reach. and on top of that. people's hours are cut. >> that's not true. >> the president effectively admitted that this is a job killer. that's the only reason for him to push the small business mandate to 2016. >> hang o. richard defend that. >> i don't know where he is coming up with the numbers. i have to tell you, first of all, those run nothing congress will run with the affordable care act. more and more individuals are enroll negligent the affordable care act. and the american people so it as more than one thing. they don't see it as a vacum. they see raising minimum wage and fixing the immigration system. nothing compares to obama care. the attention and the headlines and the size of this

legislation, i mean, that at this moment, unless things get better lars, that's what november is about. >> this is an average not the elot in washington d.c. and makes a six figure income. how about the family that had the premium go up 200 a month. that could be discretion income. that is movie night and family night out for pizza. and what did you give them a health care plan with higher deductibles. you think they will go to the polls. >> think about that family. that family paid ridiculous amounts and they get a tax subsidies and possibly qualify for medicaid and not to mention the college student can go back on the health care system. and they don't have to worry about what happen to the health care system.

you know that. >> thank you. >> it will be a issue. >> more star cleaning. >> and we got to run. >> and republican law makers taking new steps to fix backlog of claims. as of the eighth of february more than 66700 cases pending. retired marine sergeant jesse james duff, welcome to hq. they want to give the va the power to fire people who are not doing their jobs? >> we want the va to fire executives who allowed the mismanagement to perpetuate for

many, many years. it takes a month to get on food stamp and a week if it is a emergency. it takes average 342 days for veteran benefits claim to get addressed. this is ridiculous. we have 31 deaths at va medical facilities due to the result of mismanagement and they have to be held accountable and fire the people who are not performing well. >> who will oppose this in congress? does this go through? >> this better go through, the va opposing this. why? they feel it would be difficult to recruit the best and brightest to work at the va. i find that argument lud krus. >> the american legion and iraq veterans of americaning. those are strong veterans group. >> the backlog is causing

deaths. they are dying waiting for the claim. they have given 80,000 in bon us to va executive when there was four deaths directly accountable to his facility. they hold no one accountable. they transfer them to other facility. taxpayers should not pay for inadequate performance. the veterans must come first by the va. >> you think the republicans in the house pushed it forward? if that is the case does it pass in the senate? will the president sign a measure like this to help the veterans today? >> i will give the president huge bonus points if he signs off on this. it would be the first time government employees would be held responsible.

va employees and over 300,000 that do their job. but the executives receiving bon us when there is backlogs and deaths. if you are not doing your job right you are not performing the mission of the va. the veterans must come first and not the bonus plan. >> you make a passionate case. thank you. we'll see where it goes. thank you for making your case today. >> and still to come, a teenage suspect in a grizzly high- profile murder case claiming she killed more than 22 people as part of a satanic cult. ncould she be a serial killer or just going for attention? >> she is meek and mild and very low voice. she never hesitated or gave the

impression of it being a rehearsal.

>> time to check with greven. >> that is my question of the day. >> i have my teen-year-old daughter and let me ask her. and thank you so much, bill. hard term mid- term elections are a few months away. and you think obama care is a slam dunk for the republicans. but word of a democrat counter attack. do republicans really not like republican senator ted cruz. he may need a food taster in his own party. >> and a woman sent to jail for not returning a vhs tape in time. >> it is a tough country. >> remember way back then? >> see you, grech. >> is she telling the truth or

looking for attention. 19 years old so- called craigs list killer. claiming she murdered not only one man but dozens other. here is in new york city. >> there are skeptics in the law enforcement community unconvinced amanda is a serial killer. in a source close to the case said there could be something to this. they were arrested for stabbing and strangling a man. her husband was hiding under a blanket under the back society and the couple attacked the man and killed him in the car. amanda said she murdered 22 others and said that is when she stopped counting with most of the victims in alaska, and other victims in texas and north carolina. >> you can take all of the numbers that she threw around.

but the surprising thing. if she got out, she said she would do it again. >> her uncle was convicted of sexually assaulting her at four years old. they are checking her claims with the fbi and unsolved murders and so far no evidence. the reporter said she was calm and didn't seem rehearsed. >> do you have any remorse what so ever? she said none. she said she has done it before. i said what is the number? she said under a hundred. obviously a lot of the work to do now. and the wheels for questioning is already in motion. heather has more on this. >> for more on this woman's shocking claims. turn to bill daily. and dr. robby ludwig.

thank you for joining us. bill, what is your initial inclination. do you think that she did it? >> from a law enforcement perspective you have to assume it is something here and you can't dismiss it. there is things that the law enforcement and fbi can do. and so if there is any indication by people lured in by a advertisement and the type of murder. she said she liked the knife she and has used it before. look for other murders that have the same type of pattern. if you are willing to say where they are taking place. show us on the map. >> she said alaska down to north carolina. dr. ludwig, what possesses someone to do this and make it up? she wants to be known. she likes the idea of being

dangerous to men and i think she is probably responsible for some of the murders. the first thing i thought about was someone who is sexually abused. they are killing off the same person in some way. she is killing off men and shoes she is stronger then and talks about the number. it is like a man bragging about sexual conquest. under a hundred. for her it is sexually related and proves that she is not a victim but a victimizer. >> what about the whole thing about a satanic cults. in past history does it show that satanic cults are involved in mass murders like this? >> you can go back to the mansion cult in california that committed murders and certainly could be people drawn in evil,

and evil actions and act them out by a support mechanism. and of course, it could be something thrown out there that was a red herring. it is all of these things throw throwing out there. there's between 22 and 100. she's 19. she was 12 when she allegedly started these. do the math. we're talking about somewhere between, you know, three-plus to ten-plus murders a year. so some of that seems to be a bit dubious. however, checking it out, law enforcement using the fbi as kind of a catalyst to look across state lines. not every police agency can go up to alaska. they can't go to california. >> i just want to say one other thing. if, in fact, the story is true, and i don't know about the numbers, this woman could feel that she's out of control, that it is a compulsion that is out of control and in some ways she wants to be stopped and helped because she has admitted she cannot stop herself and she may not like that feeling. >> all right. thank you both for joining us. we'll see what happens this this

case for sure. lots of people watching it. we appreciate it. bill? >> so heather, what's the real story in the stimulus plan? this bitter cold is making one thing red hot, ice breaking ships. live on the shores of a frozen lake michigan. we'll go there next. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition inharge™. too small.

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freezing temperatures now in the waterways across the u.s. ice breaking ships are now vital for commerce and commuters. on lake michigan where the coast guard has been hard at work breaking through some of that ice, mike tobin has a fascinating story on that now. hey, mike. >> reporter: and bill, i don't know how well you can see through the driving snow here, but this frozen tundra behind me, this is lake michigan. in the rare case that it freezes up like this, shipping locks up as well. so the nation depends on the ice breakers with the u.s. coast

guard. with ice on the great lakes nearing record levels, the crew of the ice breaker biscayne bay finds the call of duty as far south as chicago for the first time in their careers with the coast guard. you can see it from the satellites. the great lakes are nearly 80% frozen. >> usually the normal tugs can handle the ice. this year it's getting a little too thick for them, so the coast guard had to bring an ice breaker down to help. >> reporter: ice is broken by the weight of the cutter, from air bubbled out of the hull. even the wake is often enough to create a shipping lane. what we're into now is called wind roads. this is where the wind has driven the ice to stack up on itself. it's thick. the big ships can't get through this stuff, and this is what they need the coast guard to come out here and break. when it gets thick like this, all the ice breaker can do is ram the ice, back up, ram it

again until they carve a path. >> sometimes it takes several hours to get through a field like this. >> reporter: a key supply this winter is road salt. that comes to this area both up the mississippi and over the great lakes. it's been locked up by the ice. the way things look right now, it looks like we're going to be depending on the crew of the cutter biscayne bay for some time to keep the shipping lanes open. >> oh, my. what a great story. are you on the lake now, mike? >> reporter: yeah, we're right on the edge. i'm about ten feet away from what would be the sea wall here. that's all ice and blown ice stacked up on itself. that pier going out there, that's all covered with the water driven up by the wind. >> just so you know, it looks brutal. be well. see you, mike. >> and stay away from that edge for sure. well, coming up, a 3-year-old girl being recognized for her incredibly high iq. we want to know what you think makes a genius. >> how much time do you have? your best answers are next. [ female announcer ] research suggests cell health

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what makes you a genius? >> john says, yes, dear. >> and barb says, because i watch fox news. >> you're sucking up, barb. but we like you. we got to run. here's gretchen. thanks, guys. today on "the real story," the white house saying the $800 billion stimulus a success five years after the fact. so here's my question for you today. do you think the economy is getting better? well, the irs coming off a rough year. hearings on capitol hill, allegations of targeting mitt call groups. now wait until you hear why the irs says it can't help disabled people anymore. and a woman sent to jail for an overdue vhs tape. really? do we even still have vhs? hi, everyone. i'm gretchen carlson. fox news alert. the white house about to take a victory lap on the president's economic