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the vitamins at the drugstore. that does it for us. great to have you afternoon. >> that is "house calls." media buzz comes up right now. >> this sunday, the racially charged murder case inflamed by cable news is back in the media spot lit. george zimmerman runs to television after the trayvon martin verdict. cnn is hammered online for giving him a platform. >> do you have regrets? >> certainly. i think about that night. my life would be tremendously easier if i stayed home. >> another cnn anchor spreads over the mistrial of michael dunn on a murder charge for killing an african-american teen for playing loud music. why do they turn these into
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mellow dram has? >> everyone and watching the entire season of "house of cards." >> not the beginning of the story i fear but not knowing how it ends. everyone is fair game now. including me. >> does this really deserve all of the great press? >> do business new channels help viewers make smart investments or do they just go for their favorites? this is "media buzz." >> george zimmerman was back on television this week refusing to express much in the way regret for the killing of trayvon martin and spoke to several stations including cnn. >> what do you say to those who believe you went out as a vigilantly looking for trouble
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and found it? >> i don't focus on them. i deal with their hatred by loving my supporters more. >> cnn was founded by some african-americans forgiving george zimmerman a platform. a study confirmed that cable news inflamed the situation which should have been obvious to anyone with a tv. >> now, we have our guests. lauren, should cnn have done an interview with george zimmerman? >> absolutely. it is newsworthy. the definition of newsworthy is it is interesting, it is topical to the general public and it warrants coverage. this shoutly did. not to mention the fact that his second-degree murder trial now has a similar trial in florida that also brought up race and
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self-defense. it is newsworthy. cuomo did an excellent job in saying to him, do you regret killing trayvon martin? he didn't get a good answer. >> he was aggressive. he wanted to keep the story alive and show how florida's legal system bales george zimmerman out but many said, i am so sick of george zimmerman, he should go away and not be in front of the cameras. >> the big issue is there is pending liability for george zimmerman. he couldn't answer the questions. you cannot be honest and talk right now about how he was feeling on that day. it is a phony criteria to pretend he should be. he is basely speaking to eric holder on cnn. there is still a possible department of justice investigation. there is a lot at stake for george zimmerman. the idea the media would hold him to this account at this point to be completely clean is
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ridiculous. >> but it is newsworthy. >> of course. know your liability. >> do you have a problem with three net woulds giving george zimmerman a platform? many don't think it is newsworthy? >> what is lost in the coverage is that the interviewer was black and he get a last criticism including from our friends who are black journalists who agree this is giving him too much of a platform and i thought it was an eloquent convince that castro has been interviewed. look at the notorious figures in history. if hitler will be alive he would be the "get." to say it is not newsworthy is not accurate. >> but he came out after and he had do we have that quote? >> nicely you set me up for this. he says "i am not impartial.
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i believe george zimmerman got away with murder aided and abetted by a justice system that does not have really regard for the lives of black and minority youth...." i found not an ounce of remorse. >> totally unfair criticism. >> what i said is that my kneejerk reaction is this guy should not have been doing this interview at all if he has that opinion. derrick. but i read the article. this quote pop out, i cannot accept that an african-american journalist is any less capable of conducting him or herself with professionalism the job demands regardless of my personal senator -- sentiment. >> regardless of the race of the interviewer, i think that it is not fair to be able to hold george zimmerman to a standard at this point with the justice
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department hanging over him. you look at the univision version, george zimmerman is half hispanic and in spanish he does a very good job of articulating what some would want to hear. >> here is where i disagree. a continue of studies show when doctors commit malpractice what decreases a lawsuit is when they apologize. there is a fear in our culture if you admit wrongdoing that is the not showing weakness. the opposite is true. >> hold on. hold on. hold on. i want you to hold on. >> it is a civil rights case. >> i want to talk about the study that found that when trayvon martin was first killed this wasn't even much of a story in florida for a couple of weeks. it was pushed out by activists nationally. president obama was asked about
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it -- they say cable news in particular drove this and sharpton was singled out because he was a speak and crusader for the trayvon martin family and geraldo made the remark about the hoodie was as responsible for his death at george zimmerman so ploy question is, what is it about these racially charged cases that become so addictive for cable news? >> because we have an african-american president and that ends bickering, but it hasn't turned out. because we have a lot of black president people thought it would heal wounds but people are at a loss to define race and racism in the way we thought was cheer cut, a lot of the nuance and that is how we have had this conversation. >> this predates obama and it feels line you are letting cage news off the hook. >> it is an inflammatory role here. >> there are 24 hours of content that need to be pushed out over
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cable. you are looking for a lot more content and i think it has nothing to do with president obama. president obama inflailed the problem by talking about it. let me finish. let me finish. he doesn't answer. that is one . >> why does he have to answer the question? >> the point is it was a very local news story until president obama inblamed it. >> this case of michael dunn verdict with the shooting case where a teenager george davis playing loud music in the car and dunn fired several times and three was convicted but a mistrial on the key murder count and another cnn anchor reacted when the verdict came in and fox criticizes that response.
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>> i am absolutely pissed because it is none of your business. >> it absolutely is ridiculous. there needs to be a mind your business law that goes along withstand your ground. >> this anchor acted on air as judge, jury, and executioner, condemning the defendant as guilty saying it was an open and shut case. old buy guy trying to claw their way back from obscurity by attacking other people would speak out against him? >> young lady? >> i don't think it is about whether someone is attacking him. it is about the question of what is a journalist? is a journalist an objective asker of questions? as cuomo. or is he is a political commentators which is what we are seeing with lemon. he said, you have kids in the room, keep them out. he also said, if this is a hung jury i'm just saying an the
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country there will be an outrage and i will be one of those. that is not someone trying to cover a story. >> but he is given the african-american perspective on the dunn case that upsets a lot in the african-american community. >> this has been moving into activism advocacy. it is not bad but you have to own it. if you are going to be an opinion journalist you should not retend to be a journalist. my problem is, this was just going to be his opinion, he should also bring up the fact that there was a black juror on the dunn case and said race had nothing to do with this. i agree with gregg jarrett you have a delicate responsibility to be very careful if you were not in the room if the entire time. >> gergg criticized don when he
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criticized bill o'reilly on the air. cronkite when he announced the assassination of john f. kennedy , and i don't have a problem with the fact that journalists of emotional creatures and may express emotion. >> what about the question of second-guessing a jury verdict because someone could appear guilty to us but the jury decides whether the facts in the case live up to the legal standard? >> this goes back to the early question where the media role is? this was a great point, we are a country that wants to have conversations about paula deen or black santa. we want arguments about the trials and black santa. >> send me a tweet about our show, the topic and the hour and we will read some after the end of the program.
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the fcc touched off a storm of criticism with a plan to mettle into tv news rooms. the commission said it wanted to examine the process by which stories are selected. each station's news philosophy and perceived station bias. the commission backed off late friday afternoon saying it wouldn't ask such questions until its study was redesigned. that means that it is dead as a door nail. but how did this get so far and
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why did some people think this was a good idea? >> well, you know, it's creating a phony academic study to support a liberal mainstream media bias. if you look at the two universities they picked, you couldn't be more entrenched in the liberal bias. you have annenberg. i used to teach there. i know that institution. it is steeped in the liberal bi bias. and the university of wisconsin at madison. this was a way to get the a.m. academia world to put a stamp of approval on our liberal world view and this is what you all should be doing. >> the sensible reason here was to aid diversity and make sure eight critical areas of diversity were being covered. to me, i've been out front in this. i think the fcc has no business in news content. >> from the get-go, diversity should be, so i can save them all the money they were going to spend trying to figure that out. but the other thing is, in
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theory, i'd like to see us figure out what's going wrong in news rooms because i think there is something going wrong because the news should be better. i don't know anyone that's okay with the direction it's been heading in the last couple of years. i think my friend here could run a conspiracy blog because i certainly didn't read this and go oh, my gosh, the university of wisconsin is trying to pull some liberal wool over our eyes. >> let's talk about diversity. >> i don't know where they stand so i don't know if they agree with him or not. >> i can assure you that the university of wisconsin adamant son is a liberal institution. i'm all for diversity. the news rooms are desperate for diversity of opinion, howie. >> i am not going to argue with that. i also don't want the governor as the arbiter of those opinions. >> take a look at what happened during watergate. nixon's fcc basically harassed "the washington post" and said it was going to investigate two of its tv stations. >> to challenge elections.
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and the fcc has that power, yet while there seems to be a consensus at this table that that was not the way to go and the fcc ought to mind its business when it comes of journ whether a station is living up to its public interest obligations, but how it gathers the news, i haven't seen anything on this all week in the "new york times," the ap, nightly news cast. >> he came out and he was on "fox & friends," the fcc commissioner came out in the "wall street journal" sxtsdz this is ridiculous, we shouldn't be doing this. he came on "fox & friends" and said we shouldn't do this. >> i'd like to see about getting the kardashians off the air and -- >> they're unwilling to use the heavy hand of the government. >> i'm pro kardashian. >> you are not. >> okay. but the reason -- i wonder, is it because the criticism is coming from the right and the "new york times" and others say this is a conservative hobby horse? >> let me guarantee you, howie, that if this was the bush fcc
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that did this, it would be front page of the "new york times" and every single reporter at the "new york times" would be trying to find a way to put it into their stories on any issue, including the ukraine. >> and i cannot argue with that. i think it was a big mistake by much of the mainstream media, even though this -- it said now, but it died because of the media pressure under criticism. >> that's free press. >> a small victory for free press. kelly, thanks very much for coming by this sunday. up next, "house of cards" is so popular, even real anchors are dying to get on it. but how much hours of kevin spacey can you take at once? . ♪ ♪ nothing's missed with tena twist... ♪
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real tv anchors have been lining up to make cameo appearances. >> replacing democracy with tyranny. >> what we've come to expect. >> but why is the series you have to download from netflix generating so much chatter? joining us now is david zurich, television and media critic for the baltimore sun. this is a show where the whole second season has been dumped out there. obviously, not on everybody has seen all 13 episodes. >> the new netflix model, dumping all 13 episodes and in this case on a valentine's day. i want to spoil it for people. i actually saw the first four episodes on february 4th in a screening. then i saw the rest on the 14th. and i still don't feel comfortable talking about any plot developments. i really don't. >> but the buzz seems to be as much about the bin ge viewings, you like it, some other critics
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don't, what do you make of that? >> i think that's the epic change that's being brought in. it's in lifestyle. it's in how we receive media. that's what's really important in one well, you have the business model, which is a big deal. but the lifestyle portion of this, because we have the technology and netflix has the business model in how to do it, people, it's changing way they watch tv. howie, this goes back to 1948 when prime time network television started. and somebody in rockefeller center said we're going to give you one episode a week. now that's blown up. >> we all grew up on that. but now netflix says 16% of its 30 million subscribers have watched at least one episode on this first weekend. that's impressive. with all the things i read about this, is this as big in georgia as it is in georgetown? >> nothing is as big in georgia as it is in georgetown. the media is in georgetown,
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absolutely. >> so why does this show get so much press? is it because the media elite all love it? is it because it's become a stand-in for people? >> i think that's part of it. it's got politics and it's got media. but the other reason, let's not be totally cynical. the other reason, this is outstanding drama. kevin spacey is superb in this lead role and he's at the top of his game. this is really a great compelling narrative. and howie, you know, at a time when america is sick to death of washington and hates the grid rock and hates the dealing, this exposes it. this shows it to them. so it's really satisfying in a psychological sense for citizens who feel dispossessed by the self-interested people in washington. >> but you're not disputing my theory that the media and political lead are generating a lot of the chatter because this is where they live, this is what they love. >> oh, of course. this is the land of narcisism.
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of course it's an unbelievable production. >> the "tonight show," jimmy fallon is succeeding jay leno this week. let's take a look tae brief clip from one of his shows. >> thanks to all the fans for their support. to my buddy who said i'd never be the host of "the tonight show," and you know who you are, you owe me a hundred bucks, buddy. >> great. that's great. >> so fallon had a smooth transition. he seems to be a likable guy. but he's a lot less political, for example, than jay leno. he doesn't talk about politics as much in his monologue. and a lot of people feel when late night comics are going relatively easy on president obama, that this is a move away from the premier franchise of late night. >> i always thought jay leno did political comedy like bob hope did political comedy.
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it was political, i agree. but it was gentle in a way. i mean, really -- >> but he hit both sides. >> yeah, he hit both sides. honestly, i don't see this move in a political context. although it could well develop that way. this is, in that sense, a less political comedy. i don't think it. i think it's a really smart move by nbc. look, it always seems crazy when you fire the guy who is number one. >> yeah. i haven't gotten past that. but fallon, to his credit, seems very earnest. he's very likable, as i said. but he's taking over a franchise that by definition is shrinking in part because people are watching netflix and it's not just nbc. quick thought on that. >> it's absolutely true. but i think going to bring some new viewers to the table, viewers that demographically are going to be good for nbc. and surprisingly, it's because of his music. he has an original talent and take on pop music. you know what? i'm one of them. i wouldn't stay up to watch it.
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i'll watch it the next morning on video. i'll watch him to see if he has a musical guest and he does one of his paridy or musical performances. >> that's my headline, he might even stay up late. thank you. donald trump seems to be having a fine time with kay coppins calling him the biggest -- in the world. but when he's portrayed as flirting with the presidential run, he ripped them on twitter. doesn't understand my sarcasm when talking about him and his wife wrote a foolish and boring trump hit. and that's not all. he told sam nunberg, you're fired. he said nunberg talked him into doing this. and i said to sam, if this guy writes a fair story, that's fine. but if he writes a wise guy story, you'll be fired. tuppins, i think i met him once
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before. still not quite buddies. still sucks that he got thrown under the bus. coming up on mediabuzz, are too many fund managers using business channel to push their favorite financial stocks? maria bartiromo on that and how she feels about being called the money hone [ sneezes, coughs ] i'veot a big date, but my sinuses are acting up. it's te for advil cold and sinus. [ male announcer ] truth is twon't relieve all your symptoms. new alka seltzer plus-d relieves more symptoms than any other behind the counter liquid gel. oh what a relief it is.
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>> fast moving developments in ukraine. the parliament there voting in a new acting president who announces he will form a new government by tuesday. he also is vowing to move the country closer to europe while not cutting ties entirely with russia. thousands are still camping out in independence square say they will not budge and, perhaps, digging in for a long fight. back in this country, a delay at the daytona 500: heavy rain is forcing a time out only 37 lapse
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into the race. they had twister warnings in the area and this is the second rice to get delayed by rain at daytona in the last five years. forecasters say the rain is expected to let us soon, hopefully, but it is late in the day and they cannot race in the dark. or can they? ski you at 7:00. brand new hour of america's news headquarters. back to media buzz. >> fox business network and cnbc are competing for views and the markets, but many guests push their favorite stuff. >> you want to own fracking industry and anyone that goes into the production of this, sand, pipe. we locked at it hard and this morning and we will hold on. but i would not bay. >> i recommend level three because of the incredible numbers. this company is back.
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>> i sat down in new york with the launch of "opening bell," tomorrow from 9:00 to 11:00 least eastern on fox business network. >> maria, welcome. the wrap on business news, if you are an average vow whoever does not know that much, all the talk about stops and the financials and beating expectations is hard to follow s that fair? >> i think it is. what has happened if business information is particularly on television, a lot of short turn -- ism but that is not the way to invest. when i get into the business 25 years ago it was all about the markets people wanting to be armed with information 24/7. then globalization. and then the dot com boom and
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bust. things changed a lot. today, viewers do not want short-term and they want a broader perspective where their money is over the long term. >> they do not want short term but when i first starting watching in the late 1990s i see a lot of fund managers and analyst types coming on and i have the feeling they are pushing stocks they have positions in or talking about stocks they are short on which makes me leery. >> people will tend to talk about things they like and they are invested in. that doesn't bother me as much as the short-term. today viewers are smarter than ever. people understand the decision is on them to get the information. can you not trust anyone and anybody. you have to take information and make your own decision.
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it doesn't bother me that analysts come on and say we have a rating on this and this is why i look it. >> but it should come out with a consumer warning. >> stars, the big "get" in your world are the corporate chiefs and you have interviewed everyone on the planet. how important, it is zuckerberg or jamie dimon, how important is television exposures? >> as important as ever. today, investors are scrutinizing everything. they went to know the customer and who they invest in. having the c.e.o. or bernanke come out and say, here is why we did all the stimulation of the economy, giving the investor more perspective and analysis to make their own decision. it is very important for the c.e.o. chairman and am
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allocations to understand this. when you know a person repeat through is not answering the question, and repeatedly is being interviewed and looking like something is awry, guess what? it probably isn't right. transparency is go. >> you spent 20 years at cnn. >> i was this for five years and then cnbc for 20 years. >> you helped to build that channel. was it a hard decision to leave? >> it was a stuff decision. i had the most unbelievable 20ery of my life the i loved it and am proud of being a builder, helping to build a network and building the brand. after 20 years i was looking at the next 20 and i was decide what is best for me and i realized that today people are
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looking for broader perspective, analysis, longer interviews in some case, a little less short-term. >> pressure to get people in or out of the chair and everyone has a remote in their hands did you feel you were running through too many guests? >> there is a treasure on having four or five people on the air at once and people start yelling at each other and the markets are live and people want information five minutes ago and there is competition. there was a pressure in that regard. that is all good in some regard because it is giving investors more information. what i would like to do is give more perspective, bring what i was able to put together, create, foster relationships on the air here at fox and make sure that viewers are, in fact, getting an edge. in my wife, in a different way than i was doing at cnbc and i
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think there is room for many alternatives. people want alternatives. >> competition is go if business as well asry coverage. beside being on the air for a couple of hours each morning at fox, you are going to have a sunday show which is important program on fox news can loads into "media buzz." how do you envision that program adding to the conversation? >> here is what i think: each sunday morning you see so many politicos on the air and i look forward to it, i want to hear what the talkers are saying. there is a lot of spin on both sides. there is so much spin and at the end of the day senior few people are actually connecting the dots. it is about the economy. it is about creating jobs. it is about business. where is the growth? that pertains to the growth if the economy and in corporate america and growth in america. i'm looking for the growth but i want to make sure business is part of the conversation.
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why just want a republican and democrat talking on sunday morning. i want to ask the business guy, why do you have a trillion overseas? what is it going to take for tax reform to get you to bring the money back to america? why can't you fine the employees you need with the right skill sets required to russia -- thrive? all of the issues, really, are best answered by the guy or girl on the front line who is operating a business, small or business. i intend to get business people as part of the conversation on the sunday morning show. >> it has bugged me that the tub lloyds stuck you with the milk name "the the money honey." did you embrace this? >> i never found it insulting.
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i was happy to be noticed. >> you were operating in a male environment? >> no one picked up the moan and said, hello, money honey! come on. the "new york post" went with it. it rhymed. the truth is, i fowl like my viewers know who i am and my sources know who i am and i never felt it was belittling me so i let it roll off my back and i am thrilled to have been noticed. >> okays honey, we. refer to you as maria. thanks for joining us. >> look forward to check out maria on fox business. ahead, ted nugent unloaded on cnn after they rip him for inplame story attacks. >> later, facebook buys a texting app for $19 billion! there's this kid.
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chicago communist-raised, xhubist-educated, communist-nurtured subhuman mongrel like the acorn community organizer gang sister barack husain oh bam moo to weasel his way into the top office of authority of the united states of america. >> subhum humahuman mongrel, th offensive on so many levels. >> shockingly, abbott's campaign brushed aside the criticism saying they value nugent's commitment to the -- do they know the value of that phrase, subhuman mongrel? that's what the nazis called jews. >> nugent hit back on twitter. he wrote, cnn, propaganda
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ministry mongrels. maybe it's debatable whether abbott should be held accountable for the inflammatory remarks. but after senator rand paul called nugent's words offensive, the singer went on the radio show and sort of apologized, not necessarily to the president, but on behalf of much better men than myself. it's important for xhen taters on the right and the left to join in calling out this ugly language just as some did when msnbc's martin bashir made his unspeakable attack against sarah palin. have you heard of whatsapp? mark zuckerberg just because it for an unbeliev okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition inharge™.
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facebook c.e.o. mark zuckerberg has stunned the world with a $19 billion purchase for whatsapp. >> $19 billion is insane. >> you look at the analysts and they are over the huge sticker shock and they, the analysts, say it is in line with what people pay a user. they have 450 million users around the world. it worked out to be about $42 peruser. one website many years ago was sold for $11,000 a user. >> assuming the users stick with
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it. >> i have checked it out and it is per expectly good but there are no charges. can you text until 3:00 in the morning until 3:00. >> i have a land that is t unlimited but for people in other countries, especially where this is very popular, it is dome completely free. you don't need to have a land to do that. >> i love the human interest back story, the cofounder of this site, could not get a job, could not get hired by facebook in 2009 and now he is negotiating with zuckerberg with the huge pay deal. >> and our executive producer sent that i could not believe it one of the stories you go, yeah, go for it. the other founder was living on food stamps, the other founder. he was little and look at it now: an amazing american story.
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>> on facebook, and they have the money, spending 10 percent of their net worth on this, they are desperate to get around the world. their own messaging was a flop. they are trying to buy their way into the market. >> i remember when it happened looking at $19 billion and i thought how is this possible i went to the twitter feed because i do the top twitter talk column and it was services interrupted, we will get back to. every two months. then, it happened again. >> some have been deleting their accounts because they do nut believe the promise that it will remain minute and that it will not carry advertising. >> i would love to know what people think. i tried it and i had a big problem because i could not get energy on my page. >> vanity fair kills a profile of paltrow.
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here are a few of your top tweets on whether cnn and other networks should have interviewed george zimmerman. in the fast two years, only two networks have gotten an interview. actually three network. and the best thing that could happen is we never hear from this killer ever again. the fcc has delayed plans to question newsrooms about bias in news gatheren. if fcc had pulled outrage, the rest would protest immediately. fascism pure and simple. >> what's interesting is how he is about the fcc question -- was
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the free press at work stopping something that the government was doing? which is exactly what it's supposed to be doing. >> some media outrage is warranted. moving on to buzz worthy "vanity fair" has killed a major profile of gwyneth paltrow who asked friends not to cooperate and called carter to complain. he writes in the new issue, there was nothing wrong about the piece, but the media chatter created expectation of an epic takedown that would make a story seem like a disappointment. it seems like only example of coziness with the hollywood crowd. i've been arguing that they've fixated on the chris christie scandal. here's bill maher saying just about the same thing. >> i love this network, but i thought they were a little over the top in how much they had been covering this story. a lot of the shows, it is the first story, the top story every night. it's two months into this
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scandal. >> i am totally obsessed with the story, up apologetically and will continue to be obsessed with it while amazing things continue to happen. >> finally a research are says that people curse more on twitter than in real life. >> imagine that. the statistics are 0.5% in real life. 1% on paper, on twitter. >> 1 in 13 years is a curse word. the f-bomb was the most popular. a whole list of others, and then it gets progressively worse after that. >> i think people are more relaxed on twitter, but of course they're doing it in front of an audience. >> and i think you can get into a lot of trouble in twitter, as many people have found out. especially when you're using words like this. >> well, blank that. >> hey! >> that's it for this edition of "media buzz." i'm howard kurtz. let's continue the conversation on twitter. check out our facebook page. we post video, have
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