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>> thank you. thank you very much. great audience here in the studio. and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios of new york city. tonight, we're going to focus on answering the question, how can the republicans win? now, in case that sounds like a very partisan approach, then let me be up front and honest. it is. look, i never pretend i'm objective or unbiased. my show welcomes views that aren't mine, but i hardly hide my own political leanings. i clearly believe that america would be better off if republicans took control of the senate this year, added to their numbers in the house, and took the white house in 2016. now that's not just to change the labels, but that's to change the direction of this great but struggling republic. we're suffering under an

inexperienced executive leader who's proving that a background in being a community organizer helps him do what community organizers do, disrupt, and wreak ravic in social order and society, but it's not the same. his policies in immigration, taxation, and even determines which monuments to close are mind numb. but while he treat the country as his personal kingdom over which he has authoritarian control, he takes no responsibility whatsoever for the disastrous failures of his priorities or his failed policies. none. it's always someone else's fault. george w. bush's fault, the house republicans, the tea party. always somebody else. well, republicans must unite and present a strong and unified effort to stand for personal freedom and responsibility, good jobs, less big government, and more local and limited government. lower taxes, and the country

where mothers and fathers raise their kids instead of letting the government do it. because if we don't, we could see speaker pelosi take the podium. and more years of harry the contrariy reid. the democrats have learned to keep their disagreements behind closed doors. our folks on the republican side spend more time and money fighting within the family than taking on the liberals. there are real issues and some aren't easily agreed on, evening among conservatives, but are differences among conservatives as big as differences we have with the far left loons in control of the government right now? well, some of the topics that we're going to cover are obamacare, out of control spending, diversity in the republican party, immigration reform, and social issues. i'm going to be joined by a panel of republicans throughout the hour. and we're going to take a real good look at some of the facebook and twitter questions and the comments that we ask you to send us along with your concerns. later in the hour, we're going

to be joined by rnc chairman reince priebus and get his input on how republicans can win. right now, let me introduce our panel, marsha blackburn of tennessee. reverend sammy rodriguez, president of the national hispanic christian leadership conference and one of america's most influential latino leaders. crystal wright is here, editor of conservativeblackchick.com, and david webb, founder of tea party 365, and a fox news contributor. great to have all of you guys here. going to be kind of fun. i want to start off with immigration. so sammy, i'll turn to you on this one. house republicans have decided they're not going to take this issue up this year. i think a lot of people felt a little bit of a relief it wasn't going to be this contentious battle. what do republicans need to put on the table in the way of immigration reform that is not

only effective to deal with the issue, because that's really the first reason, but then how to deal with it in a way that will be politically effective and not to do political suicide? >> right, well, governor, first, today's complacency is tomorrow's captivity. the republican party must cross the jordan of immigration reform. i'm a preacher now, so sorry. >> preach on, brother. we'll pass the plate, but i get the money. >> hallelujah. >> the republican party must cross the jordan immigration reform if ever to step in the promised land of the hispanic electorate. by not addressing immigration reform this year, it further alienates not only the hispanic electorate, but a majority of people according to a fux news poll, the majority of people who carry bibles, wear badges, and run businesses. what we need is not amnesty. amnesty is not an option. >> that's not something the h hispanic community is clamoring for. that's the perception, you have

to have amnesty or you're going to make them mad. >> why should we grant amnesty to people who step into the country illegally. amnesty is not an option. we're looking for a legal system that secures the borders. and we have technology to secure the borders. if we can read the license plate thousands of miles away, we can detect who is crossing the rio grande. we have the technology, the wherewithal. it's a matter of securing the border, but providing a pathway to immigration for those who are currently here. those who are not depending on government entitlements, that are self-sustaining, that resonate with our value system. the majority of immigrants really are in the nation to bless the nation, not to curse it. not addressing immigration reform is going to further alienate an electorate and a demographic that resonates with conservative values on different levels. >> how would it look, though, to have a way to deal with 11 million or whatever the number is, because i don't know that any of us really know, what do

we do with the folks that are already here? >> integration. first thing you do, you do not give them an expedited pathway to citizenship. absolutely not. it's not fair for those coming into the nation legally, for those who have been here illegally to go to the front of the line. absolutely not. in fact, that's morally reprehensible. get a guest worker visa, and the idea that 11 million people want to become u.s. citizens, that's a misnomer. many just want to work here, go back to mexico, el salvador, come back and seasonally work here according to the needs of the various sectors of our economy. let's provide a guest worker visa that may lead to permanent res dnlsy. down the road if they want to apply for permanent residenceship, let them go to the back of the line, pay fines, admit they came here illegally, and enjoy a caramel mockuato from somewhere. >> that's a proposal that samma has talked ability. the house has decided they're not going to touch it this year, at least so far.

is what he's talking about realistic? is that doable within the house as we know it today? >> governor, you know what? some of the conservatives in the house have had an incremental process offered since 2003. securing the borders first. dealing with those that are the criminal illegal entrants. having i.c.e. clean up the entrance and exit program so we know who is here when they have a visa, they leave when that visa expires. and then finding some components where you're dealing with legalization, not amnesty, not citizenship. but dealing with legalization. and doing that in an orderly process is what the american people want to see. >> do you think it will happen more likely by pieces rather than an overall comprehensive? and i guess i'm curious, is comprehensive necessary? is that the ideal? because i think a lot of us just don't trust the process of congress as long as the democrats are in charge of the senate. that they're going to butcher it up some way.

>> i think what the congresswoman has said really makes the most sense. americans want enforcement. i have a problem with us calling it immigration reform because it's really about enforcement. we have immigration laws on our books. but we have a president who has instructed his justice department to ignore those laws. what he said was, if somebody catches an illegal immigrant here and they don't have a criminal record, they're supposed to be allowed to continue to stay and work in the country. so i think for republicans, i like the approach the house wants to take, as the congresswoman said, incremental, forcing on enforcement, but i don't see us passing any big, sweeping bill coming out of the house. i mean, we already know what happened in the senate, but more importantly, the way republicans can win the hispanic vote and the black vote and everybody else is talking about immigration abiding by our laws. everybody wants us to be a law-abiding country. it doesn't matter what color

skin you are. i think if we can talk about the immigration problem with that tone, guess what? we're going to do very well in 2016. >> quickly because we have to move on. >> we tend to put together that we can do immigration and get the hispanic vote. you want to get people's vote as a party? pro-growth policies, what is good for this nation? there is no guarantee of the hispanic vote if you do immigration. that's something we need to separate as we deal with the issues in this country. >> we're going to have to move on. gosh, i wish we had more time. we could do the whole show on immigration. jr writes this, run government like a household. don't borrow money for anything that's not needed. what's being done to rein in spending? what is being done? we'll talk about it next and see if anything is being done. stay with us. ut it next. stay with us. if you would like to comment and share with me your thoughts. go to my website on 866-ny1-talk. and sign up on facebook or

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well, there's so many things. one final question on immigration before we move on, sammy. the critics say even if you did immigration reform, it doesn't matter. all the immigrants are going to vote democratic anyway. is that true? >> absolutely not. 44% of hispanics supported george w. bush in 2004. i sat down with karl rove after that and we had a conversation. i believe the only agenda is the agenda of the lamb. with that context, i do believe there are very strong conservative values that resonate in the hispanic american community. 27% supported romney. 27%. in spite of the self-deportation and rhetoric we heard. i believe it's an opportunity for hispanics to come back and affirm the conservative ethose that stands embedded in the

hispanic american community. >> we may get back to more of that in a bit. both chambers of congress have improved an increase to the debt limit. and they have allowed it to pass without putting up a fight. here's what house speaker boehner had to say about it. >> this is a lost opportunity for america. we're on a spending trajectory that's unsustainable. the president knows it, every democrat and every republican in this town knows it. and it has to be dealt with. and so it's a disappointing moment, i can tell you that. >> you know, it was a disappointing moment because it was just raising the debt ceiling. david webb, you're a tea party guy. how frustrated were you and do you feel like this was a real failure to not push for something in the debt ceiling deal? >> i'm frustrated with the spending problem in congress. i'm frustrated with speaker boehner. i'm frustrated with the republicans on this issue. it's disheartening to see that

the federal government as a whole, they're all to blame for this, republicans and democrats, and otherwise, for this spending problem. with that said, i see a point of strategy in this. the point of strategy which is the bitter bipill we have to swallow, we have no choice, is republicans need to not buy more bullets, political bullets for the democrats going into 2014. we will have no chance of stopping obama for two more years if we don't win the house, take more seats in the house. if we don't win the senate, and we're able to either override the president, there are democrats who will vote with us on some issues. so i'm conflicted, i'm disappointed, but i understand the strategy point that could work. now, for the republicans, there is going to be massive failure on their part, congresswoman, take this back to congress, takes us back to speaker boehner if over the next several months you don't deliver to the american people. you're going home on break and have to talk to the people and

deliver solutions. tangible results on issues. you also have the power of the purse. it's incumbent on you to use the power of the purse to block, to not fund. it's your constitutional responsibility to not fund programs because if the american people and the independent voters, the likely voters, don't see results, you will not win the senate. >> weigh in on that? >> i totally agree with him. what people say to us when we're out and about, talk about the spending, what are you going to do about it? i thought we were spending too much when it was $7 trillion. now it's $17 plus, almost $18. here's some of the things we're doing. every year, i offer amendments and bills to cut 1%, 2%, and 5% across the board. save a penny out of a dollar and do it for the children. do it for future generations. everybody ought to do that. if we did this, we would save over $11 billion out of our discretionary spending. it's time to do that. get rid of duplicative program said. as we go through the

appropriations process this summer, now that we have returned the power of the purse to the house, we forced the president to sign a budget, what you're going to see us go to the floor and do is disallow spending on programs that have outlived their usefulness. defund navigators, defund the extra irs agents. defund a lot of obamacare because that's how we do it, absolutely we will do it. >> here's my issue. i have to go back to this. it hasn't. it hasn't been effective enough. i understand the plan of taking a haircut here off things. there's over $400 billion in duplicative programs according to a gao audit. these programs are not being dealt with in the house. unfortunately, the republicans have been as guilty and are as guilty of pandering to things that support what keeps them in power. >> i'm going to push back on david a little bit. david, what i don't think the tea party understands is when you get elected, government is about compromise. and the first thing when i think

speaker boehner did a smart thing when he said we're going to pass a clean spending bill because he put the money on the back of the spending democrats, democrats who won't cut a dime and the spending president. the problem we have time and time again as a party is i think when we dealt with the government shutdown last fall, what we saw was a lot of tea party folks wanted to get caught up in repealing obamacare when it didn't have a chance to be repealed. instead of focusing on delaying the individual mandate, which is there's a great argument for that now. so i think the only way that republicans are going to be able to really cut this federal debt in spending is if we get control of the house and senate. >> crystal, i think you make a very important point that i'm going to conclude the segment with. it is that politics is ultimately an issue of math. it's a mathematical issue. if you don't have the votes, it doesn't matter what you want to do. you can take all the stands you want to take. you lose. and then you lose and you don't really win the bigger issues. and i do think it's very important to what you said,

taken to heart by our viewers. republicans can win the rhetorical debate, but they have to win the mathematical debate, which means you have to get majorities in both houses. we have to move on. >> all right, i want to hear from you at huckabee show on twitter or the huckabee show on facebook. coming up, can republicans win on the problems of ob alone? or do they need to come up with some alternatives and other issues? we'll talk about it next. in the nation, reward safe driving. add vanig deductible from nationwide insurance and get $100 off for every year of safe driving. put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side coach calls her a team player. she's kind of special.

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what more is there to say about obamacare, the congressional budget office figures the affordable care act is going to cost america 2.5 million jobs. part of the law keeps changing and getting delayed at the president's whim, andthen you have this. >> if you like your health care

plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan. period. >> well, it turns out that over 6 million people and counting have lost their plan under obamacare. congresswoman blackburn, you have worked in this area. you're from a state that tried something at the state level like this. >> that's right. >> you experienced it. >> we have experienced it first-hand, and i think that's why tennessee did not want to do the medicaid expansion, and it's also why they have said, you need to do everything you can to delay it, to repeal it, and to replace it. and my across state line purchase of health insurance bill is one of those options for replacement. and we have the american health care reform act, which is a comprehensive replacement for obamacare. it includes portability and across state line purchase and insurance accountabilities, and the opportunity for small businesses and individuals to experience that health care insurance deductibility just

like big businesses do. it addresses medical malpractice reform and guess what? it puts the emphasis on the patient and their doctor. and we like that. it gives them control. >> lets them make medical decisions. >> that's right. >> before i throw the panel into this, i want to just make the point that republicans are going to come out pretty good this year because people are so unhappy with obamacare. >> that's right. >> but in the long term, republicans can't win just because the democrats fumbled the ball. they've got to pick it up and carry it to the goal line. so you mentioned one thing. are there other ways republicans can pick up this fumble, take it to the goal line, and win on the issue, not just of being against obamacare but on real reform? >> absolutely, there is. and what we want to do is make certain that we are talking about not only health insurance but health care delivery. and having that accessible in local communities, underserved communities. i was in some of my rural

counties in tennessee this week. and it is amazing because of the obamacare rules, people are losing insurance, insurance costs have gone up, sometimes as much as 700%. hospitals cannot get reimbursement. all of that means access is cramped. you may have that insurance card, but it does not mean you have access to the doctor and to the care you need. and we're really seeing access to care compromised. >> let me ask you, many in the hispanic community are catholic or evangelical. are there pieces of obamacare that are so offensive to them that this could be a turning point in that community's vote? >> there's three components. first, the idea of any funding that terminates life in the womb. it's morally reprehensible in the religious community. second, even the growth of government, this thing about american exceptionalism, there's no argument, there really is. it's this radical idea that one of my mentors once gave me.

god over man and man over government. there's a limited amount of space. if government grows, man and god have to move. i believe in limited government. in that context, this is what i preach to my congregation. uncle sam may be our uncle, but he will never be our heavenly father. so thisuber dependency on government to solve all of our problems, including our health care issues, i do believe it should be more on the states, pre-existing conditions as an evangelical christian, as a christian, i believe it's something we're compelled to support, and i want all americans to have health care, but not on the backs of multiple generations and not increasing the size of government. >> david? >> one of the areas where the republicans and the federal government need to go to is we started by the president's approach and we seem to be fighting against his approach, health care for all. if we have a problem using the democrats' numbers that there are 40 million uninsured in this country, and by the way, the cbo

since day one has said down the road there will still be 30 million uninsured, why aren't we looking at policies that help the 40 million and at the same time looking at things we can do with portability, with advance in the number of doctors, nurse practitioners, savings accounts to fix the problems with insurance and providers for the ones that have it already? so the republicans need to look at the governorships. we have 29 governors. look at those states. find localized solutions. you may need to have some private-public partnerships for people who needpre-existing, bu not going to do it by focusing on the people with problem, not on the rest of the country. >> i think the reality is that health care is ultimately the responsibility of the individuals. they've got to take some responsibility. we'll never be able to spend our way into healthy behavior. that's a part of it, making it so that the doctors and the patients are the one whose are in the transaction, not third

party people paying, third party people making the decisions. when you remove both the patient and the doctor, no wonder you end up in such a mess. coming up, diversity and the republican party. and this is one of the things we have heard from mark hodge. he writes on facebook a good friend of mine sees the entire party as racist. i'm considered the exception to her mindset. so why does mark's friend see it that way? that's what we'll talk about next. [ sniffles, coughs ] shhhh! i have a cold with this annoying runny nose. [ sniffles ] i better take something. [ male announcer ] dayquil cold and flu doesn't treat all that. it doesn't? [ male anner ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast-acting antihistamine. oh, what a relief it is!

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camping out in independence square. that's been the scene of so much violence in recent days. but it has quieted down with the new developments for now. and here in the united states, the delay of the daytona 500, and look at the weather map. that's the best it's looked all night. heavy rain systems and tornadic systems forcing a time-out, just 38 laps into the race. severe storms moved through the area, including tornado warnings north and south of the track. now things are calming down and we're understanding it's let up. nascar officials are hoping to wave the green flag soon. we're talking about how republicans win and the issues they need to tackle in order to do it. please welcome back our panel, david webb, host of sirius xm patriot radio. crystal wright, editor of conservativeblackchick.com. sammy rodriguez, president of the christian hispanic confrgz, and marsha blackburn of

tennessee. all right, we're going to talk about diversity in the republican party because sometimes the criticism is republicans are a middle-aged, old, white guy's club. and nobody else can really play. nobody else can win. crystal, let me get right to the point with you. we had this situation recently where tim scott was called a ventriloquist dummy by the head of the south carolina naacp. i just found that outrageously offensive. is it possible for people of color to find a place in the conservative movement? and in the republican party? >> sure, there is. i'm an example of that. there's no reason -- you know, it's no mystery why i decided to name my blog conservativeblackchick, to pust through stereotypes that the republican party, the party of lincoln, is inclusive. that's why the party was created, after all. a little history lesson here. lincoln and the republicans broke away from the wigs because the wigs wanted to expand states out west and they wanted to

allow them to become slave states, guys. so we were the party that elected the first blacks to congress. i hope everybody knows that. but the congresswoman and i were talking about this before we all got together. and what we said is, look at all of us on this panel with you. we're pretty representative of diversity. >> i'm the only old white guy here. >> right, but you're part of -- you're the minority. >> you didn't say it, crystal, but i knew it was coming. i knew it was coming. >> look, you took the words out of my mouth. but the thing is, aren't we all representative of the melting pot that is america and conservatism? but the problem is, why isn't the leadership in our party like the rnc, like on the house, the senate side, i don't care where you want to look at it, let's put forth the faces of the congresswoman, me, david, and the good reverend here, and the more you put forward the faces

that our party looks like the faces of america, the more people will feel welcome, but you can't feel welcome, pardon me, governor huckabee, if all we see day in and day out on national television is old white males. i know we're bigger than that. >> do you feel welcome in the conservative movement? >> i resonate with the ethose. on the economic and limited government and social values that i still deem to be important, but it's a matter of optics. the perception is it's angry white republican males. why is the republican party so angry, according to those in the latino and african-american community? why are they angry? and they're opposed to everything. the republican party needs to revutalize itself by creating ronald reagan's optimism. if we can talk about justice without being big government justice, if we capture justice and in the republican party can, again, reinvigorate the communities with ronald reagan's

optimism, you'll see african-americans and latinos saying yes. >> we're going to call our party the great opportunity party, not the grand old party. >> slogans are great. now here's part of the problem. long-term engagement. it's one thing to sit here and say this is what we need to do. what we have not done, and this happened with a change in leadership, whether in the rnc or the congress, the tactics and strategies change. what we need is to get into the communities, talk to the folks. regardless of young, old, black, white, gay, straight, it doesn't matter. president reagan, attributed to him, my 80% friend is not my 20% friend. we need to get into long term engagements, not political cycles. i have been a republican since i was 18. i made a choice based on the party and the values, and i said i agree with 99% or whatever percent, so this is where i belong. what we don't do is get in a deal with people at that level where they understand the policies. >> i can tell you, i got 49% of

the african-american vote in my state. people say, republicans never get that percentage. i said, you do when you build relationships in the community. >> david is right and you're right. this is a watershed moment. governor huckabee, you showed up. you didn't say, oh, that's an inner city. i'm nots going to go because i'm a white guy. no, you were governor of all in arkansas. you said i'm going to show up. when you take the message to david's point of opportunity, when you say, hey, guys, you like keeping more of what you earn, do you like sending your kids to great schools? guess what, i don't care if you're purple, lavender green, you go, yeah, i want that. the minute you put the republican party name on it and not the face of governor huckabee showing up in the neighborhood, we're toast. >> the key point to remember is that politics follows policy, rather than the other way around. it's a big mistake, i think republicans have made. they put their politics out there, not their policies that empower people. and if we do the policies right, and we do empower those families, the politics follows,

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the sentiments of bob. he writes this, he says these issues are so far down on the list of things that must be triaged in order to save our country. you know, sammy, i don't know i agree with bob. i think the issues still resonate with people. i'm not saying they're as important as jobs, but what's your tame from your community as to whether or not these things matter or not anymore? >> truth must never be sacrificed on the alter of political or cultural expediency. this party must stand convicted to speak truth. but reconcile that truth with compassion. these values, these social values, these are the values that stem from our judeo christian value system, the very system that stores at the core of african-american leaders, churches, and latino churchers. when the gop says we're not going to discuss social issues, what we call spiritual issues, moral issues, you will alienate even more the communities you're attempting to engage.

>> david, you're shaking you head. you don't think so. >> we're painting too black and white a picture of reality in america. >> you have to mention brown, too. >> thrown them all in there. we're painting too simple a picture. first of all, conservatism is a movement. republican is the party. social issues matter to some but not all voters. more and more, the youth, and i'm doing down a train of thought that happened in the '80. it was cool to have a black friend, a girl who was a friend and a gay friend. now nobody cares who your friend is. this is american culture. doesn't make it bad or good. we have to have some form of more torium on giving our opponent weapons to use against us. >> hold on. here's what the reality is. of the 80 million people who self-identify as evangelical christians in the country, 50% of them didn't even register to vote. ose of the who did, only 50% of the registered voted. if 10% of the evangelicals would

have voted for romney, we would have talked for president romney. when you give them no reason to go and take their motivation away -- >> the only reason isn't the social issues. >> let me throw one. every conservative in congress votes fiscally conservative. not every fiscally conservative votes socially conservative, but every fiscal conservative by a thorough vote count votes thoroughly conservative across the board. does it matter? are you still hearing from constituents for whom these matters issue at all? >> i absolutely hear about these issues because they see it as the fabric of america. you look at five things, faith, family, freedom, hope, and opportunity. you keep that underpinning strong and you're going to keep your focus on freedom, free people, free market. people understand that political freedom and economic freedom are linked. and you have to have that total picture.

i think it's important for us to talk about it in the right way. i think it is important for us to have the right tone, to have the right messengers. and it is important to keep those issues very focused in the forefront. of course, jobs and the economy are issue number one. obamacare is issue number two. but making certain that we preserve our first principles, that always comes out. >> as a -- as the only other woman on the panel, i think the congresswoman makes a great point. america will always be about family. but it's the way the republican party and conservatives are talking about social issues that bothers me as a woman, and we're alienating women that we need to bring back into the fold. and what happens? romney lost the woman vote by 10 percentage points and i'm

convinced it was, to david's point, the left does a great job of putting us in a box. war on women. you know this all too well, governor huckabee. why don't we have more women, the face of the party, talking about how women are the ones who usually are making sure the home fires are burning and keeping fiscal house in order as well. why don't we have women talking about life is awesome, and i can be a mom. i can be a career woman. and i can protect life. but where we lose is when we talk about and vilify those who make other choices than preserving the life of a baby. >> we're running out of time. let me say this. i think that's not the point. but neither should we ever apologize for believing something, and nor should we let the democrats and the far left -- >> i agree. >> -- give us a lexicon and tell us what we can and cannot say. >> let more women say i preserve life. >> thank you very much. we have to end it here. that's just the way time works. up next, what does the head

of the party say about some of these issues? reince priebus will weigh in. we'll be right back. thank you, panel. ♪ ♪ ♪

>> we talk about the issues the republicans need to address to win the next election. republicans need to stand united and work together on issues they may not always agree with. what is being done about that? the chairman joins us right now. thank you for being here. >> hey, governor. >> you have been able to hear a lot of conversations we have had with the panel. we have had great ideas. if you had a way to maybe say here's what has to happen to bring the party together to win in 2014 what do you think the key elements are? >> they listen -- i listened to

most of the discussion i think the one thing that popped out at me was what david web talked about that is fundamental. our issues at the national level, at the rnc level i think are fundamental getting on the ground, in communities on a long-term basis. here's the problem. what happened over the last several years at the rnc, the entity i am in charge of, we have become, unfortunately, an organization that has shown up about once every four years, five months before an election. we have become a part-time party. to david's point the things that we are trying to do very differently, it sounds reasonable and intelligent but i promise it is not what is going on. we are putting in place in as many communities as possible that we can pay for long-term full-time engagement in african

american, hispanic asian communities. number two we need to be in every battle ground stit nonstop. that's where we have been getting killed. we have $35 million data upgrade in helping us speak to and identify and segment different voter communities and the different phases and choices of our party, i couldn't agree more. we have done a great job in getting hispanic governors african american senators exposed but we have done a good job bragging about it and we have to do better. all of that really encompasses 90 percent of the things i am trying to deal with. >> one thing you have done, you push back against some of the media maybe depicts of the republicans. you for example said you are not going to let networks by msnbc dictate the terms of the next presidential debate let him pick the host who are not maybe

indifferent but hostile to the republican message. what kind of message have you gotten from taking that stand? >> it has been tremendous. when i talk about shortening the system it is not a takeover. six months of slicing and dicing ourselves in front of the general public and liberal media is a joke. having 23 debates and traveling circus in front of liberal moderators is another joke that is going to come to an end. we are going to reduce the number of debates and kick the moderators and have to change our party. >> i think it is a brilliant move in strategy. i thank you for that and i thank you for being here today for what repub cans care to win.

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>> tonight we focused on how republicans can win. i am convinced a clear conservative message is compelling to people with common sense. most people know you can't spend money you don't have and you can't borrow what you can't afford to pay back. most people know if you pay people to not work they are never going to want to work. most people know you are going to get more of what you reward and you get less with what you punish. if you punish productivity and reward ir responsibility you can be assured of less productivity and a lot more ir responsibility. most people know a higher tax is really the government having a lower respect for the work people did to earn the money. everybody knows the great nation doesn't have a strong military

because it enjoyed using it but because of having a strong means and probably haven't have to use it. people understand that the purpose of government is not to pick the winners and losers in the marketplace but simply to wear the striped shirt and keep the game fair and fluid. most people know if you let water sit too long it gets stagnant just like letting politicians stay too long in office makes them stale. most people believe the last people on earth we let raise our kids would be the government and we believe that parents ought to be empowered to raise their own kids and even pick their own schools. if that isn't what americans want then republicans are going to lose. if it is what americans want then republicans are goings to have to stop fighting each other and start fighting for the americans who do have common sense. (applause)

>> from new york, this is mike hubbin huckabee, good night and god bless. stay tuned for judge jeanine. >> you need help. >> nothing to help with. >> i am going fishing. >> i am telling you there's no fishing out there. >> come with me. >> what are we going to do? >> change the world. >> i thought only god could do that? >> which is easier to forgive him of his sins or saying get up and walk.