tv The Kelly File FOX News February 24, 2014 9:00pm-10:01pm PST
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i don't want you to get addicted to the e-mail but use it for the purpose of good. again, thank you for joining us tonight. ms. megyn is next, i'm bill o'reilly, please remember the spin stops here, we're definitely looking out. i'm megyn kelly live in new york city. and tonight. the "the washington post" hits the president again. see what earned him the dread e by nnokno pinoccios this time. and see how this fight with the doctors ended with mom literally on the stretcher. and then? >> my insurance was cancelled because of obamacare. >> we showed you the political ad and we talked with the patients. >> i thought obamacare was supposed to help me. it is not helping me. >> now, a new twist as the
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democratic congressman tries to bury this thing forever on "the kelly file" right now. on the day the administration announces dramatic cuts to america's military we get a gallup poll revealing a stunning shift and how americans feel about this president on the world stage, good evening, everyone, i'm megyn kelly, welcome to "the kelly file." when he ran for office he promised to restore america standing on the world and america believed him. 67 percent of the public thought the world leaders respected our president back in 2008. just 20% disagreed with that. even when the president went on what critics called his apology tour, a majority offer the apologies for the mea culpa. in recent months our troops have had to watch as al-qaeda hoisted
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its flag over cities that americans died to liberate. in afghanistan, we have learned the president did not listen to the generals after the successful troop surge, and the former press secretary recently revealed how he thought that mr. obama never believed in the mission there. remember, too, the white house cheered when the fever of the arab spring reached libya but then failed to see the terror attack coming on our consulate in benghazi. and to this day, no one is in custody for that. and that is not to mention the ongoing nightmare that is syria, the stale mate that is iran, or the so-called reset with iran and five years later look at the shift. 53% feel that world leaders do not respect our president. only 41% still believe a huge swing from where we were when he took office. and in the face of that, this
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announcement today. america is now cutting the military, he is proposing the administration is, to help make us a super power since levels not seen before world war ii. joining me now, chairman of the house armed services committee. mr. chairman, good to see you. and so your reaction to the announcement. we're about 570,000 wartime troops we had at its peak. we were expected to take a cut down to about 490,000. and now chuck hagel announcing today it will be more like 440 to 450,000 in terms of the level. >> thank you for having me on, megyn, you know, this is not news. i've been saying this for three years, the cuts that we establish and the budget agreement act we cut $487 billion out of defense. sequestration cut another $5 billion out. we knew it was coming. it was just a matter of time. this was the result of cutting a
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trillion dollars out of our defense. we've done this before, never as steep and never during wartime. what we're asking of our military, the things that they have done in afghanistan, the victories that they have won. we won the victory in iraq. and then lost the peace. and i'm afraid if we don't really watch it in the next few months we could have the same identical thing happen in afghanistan. this -- i can't even imagine, imagine the commander-in-chief squandering this opportunity to let the american people know the great things that we have accomplished in afghanistan. he has given a handful of speeches in the last five years. never really lets the american people know what -- what we've done over there. you know, we have -- when we went there, there were a million young people in school. it is now over 8 million. and about 3 million of those are
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girls who could not go to school before. >> well, but this is not just about afghanistan for the pentagon. i mean, they're going to reduce certain pay increases, certain retirement benefits. i mean, you know, the troops -- there is no question they're going to feel this reduction in a very real way. and yet the defenders of the cuts say they have to happen somewhe somewhere. we have to find some cuts. there is no courage in washington to touch entitlement spending so this is where it is going to have to be. >> we could eliminate the whole defense budget. we could eliminate the whole discretionary budget. close down all the buildings here in washington. and we would still be running a deficit of a half a trillion dollars a year because of mandatory spending. and that is where the problem is. but what we've tried to do, what the president has tried to do. the budgets that they send up to us is lay this all on the backs of our military. and the war funding has come out
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of separate funding that we voted for each year. this budget that we're talking about is our base budget. that is the troops, the navy, the air force that has been protecting us since world war ii. they kept the sea lanes open around the world. they're just taken for granted. and enough is enough. >> well, they say that the army chief of staff, the general said he would be okay with a force of 450. so that is about where we're going. but on the other hand, our old defense secretary bob gates said these levels would be catastrophic. so we shall see. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. breaking tonight, new developments in a battle now getting national attention. justi justina pelletier was taken away from her parent's custody, she was originally diagnosed with
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mitochondrial disease, that was at tufts. then she wound up at boston's children. and that staff disagreed with the original diagnoses and then decided she did not need the treatment. the doctors at tufts thought she needed them. the massachusetts department of family services stepped in and got a judge to revoke custody from the family. and now, one year after they deprived the family of custody of this daughter, seen once a week only on supervision, now they want to place justina in a foster care facility. the parents want her back, after hearing all of this in the courtroom, her mother collapsed. this was videotape of that and was taken to a local hospital by a stretcher. we had a father who defied a gag order to talk to us.
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trace gallagher has more. >> and when the judge ruled that justina plenty eti was not alloo their custody, on top of the family being under a gag order that as you said they have violated, including on "the kelly file." listen to this. >> all her medical situations have been totally ignored. medicine she was on, treatments that she has been dealing with, she is at her breaking point. and we can't stand by anymore and allow this to happen. >> and remember, it was four years ago when justina was diagnosed at tufts medical center with a diagnoses called
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mitochondrial disease, they said no, she did not have mito, she had a mental disorder. the symptoms were all in her head. the family was accused of medical abuse for allowing needless medications and surgery. the dcf does not have medical expertise so they rely on the doctors at children's hospital. they took custody of justina, the doctor at tufts who at first diagnosed her said they wanted to meet to talk about the case. now you have rights groups and religious groups getting involved. listen. >> we are going to bring people of faith, of good will, who believe in this. the millions across the country, to be engaged with this. we are announcing the campaign,
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free justina, that is the name of the campaign, you can go to freejustina.com, we're going to use every resource we have. >> a hearing on the gag order is set for february 28th. a hearing on custody set for st. patrick's day, march 17th. the governor of boston we contacted today they are not contacting on this case. of massachusetts. >> okay, of massachusetts, the commonwealth, trace, good to see you. imagine that, they take away your child. because you followed doctor's orders at another hospital. and then when you want to speak out about it they gag you. they issue a gag order. you can't even say anything about it. you can't get public attention or generate a national outcry. you keep your mouth shut. that is what the judge said to this family. that is why the father came on this program friday night and broke the orders, decisiisobeye orders. coming up, this man's team is
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furious about this gag order in this case. and he was in this courtroom today, what about your first amendment rights? this is a government shutting them down over an issue with custody for your child. and what did the parents do? follow the orders of another doctor. could this happen to you? also coming up tonight. this marine fell on a grenade and lives were saved. so why did secretary hagel just decide he does not deserve a medal of honor? we'll investigate. i credit my being here to my specialist. the star of a new obama care ad told us last week about fighting leukemia. but now she is fighting her critics after a democratic congressman sends his lawyers to attack. plus, see what we learned now about the man in charge of prosecuting one of the president's biggest critics. >> so i think there is the offense here that obama treats offense here that obama treats his critics not a kid, i made al the places i wanted to visit.
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because of obamacare. she calls out a democratic representative for voting for the law. julie joined us last week on "the kelly file" and said this. >> when i received the letter stating my plan was dissolving, it was crushing to me. i was raised to respect the president. and you may not disagree with their decisions but you single have a certain amount of respect. and receiving this letter, hearing him lie to me and to the rest of the american public has been crushing for me. and i can't honor the way that i was raised. >> the day after julie appeared on our show, democratic representative gary peters sent lawyers to at least one of the television stations running that ad, demanding that they pull it until julie provided them with more information to prove her claim. we have invited congressman peters repeatedly to join us on the program so that he can have the voice he clearly wants to have on the story. he has declined repeatedly to
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come on. instead he wants to go through the lawyers. joining me now, ellison barber with the free beacon. i get that he doesn't like the ad, and that the ad got three pinocchios. so i asked her about that, and she defended her case, isn't that how it is done? why didn't he come on or go wherever he is comfortable and defend his case? why get the lawyers and start to attack the leukemia patient? >> they were not attacking her, what they were doing was attacking the asp and the koch brothers who spent a million dollars to put this ad out there to defend the facts that are in this case, which are clearly not factuawhich is why they're not standing up. there was no cease and desist,
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they just asked that the facts be substantiating. that is where we're falling down on the reporting. >> no we're not falling down on the reporting. because i did report it. in is n it is not the koch brother's testimony, it is hers. >> free fspeech, the issue of what you guys were addressing as what was factually incorrect, it is not actually what she said in the ad. she said i lost insurance because of the provisions in the affordable care act. who is anyone to say what someone can or can't afford. >> let me tell the audience, they may not be up to speed. "the washington post" said you wound up breaking even. you used to pay $1100 a month, you may have to pay about that, it will sort of come in spurts, but it comes in fits and spurts
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where she may have a $3,000 bill in january and very low bills the next time. what julie said, i don't like that plan, i like my old plan. i may not have the 3 grand in the bank to pay the fee. so i get why they say it was not exactly right. but it is not a whopper, she lied -- >> i think that is a fair point to argue on and for people like us to say was this accurate? i think it was factually accurate, it is a fair debate to have. he is addressing the issues of the ad, it goes to free speech, there is nothing wrong with somebody coming out and saying this is how i feel, what i believe, it is not an issue of politics but free speech and whether or not this person who feels -- >> this is a u.s. congressman going after a leukemia patient. >> no this is about the facts, trying to make sure, it is not
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just about free speech. i see this as he is running for congress. we have ads out there that are trying to characterize his vote for obamacare as something that has -- >> that happens all the time. >> i'm going to give you the floor, but it happens that inaccurate has come out. and you can argue about whether this is one or not. let's assume it is for the purpose of this discussion, is it a good idea for a democratic congressman on the issue like obamacare to be running to the lawyers and shut down this woman's voice? she went to his house to try to confront him with this. he is basically hiding inside, she said he was in there, you got a cancer patient -- >> what he did with his lawyers is actually very classic. even the republican governor in michigan did the same thing. it is very typical for a campaign to go to the tv station and make sure the facts are being reported accurately. i think it is very fair, fair to the american voter and viewer. i think the challenge that the afp has is that they won't stand up and defend the fact that ms.
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boonstra actually did get coverage from her doctor. >> she came on the program -- >> $6300. >> you're -- blaming afp, it is her claim, no, no. >> they're the ones -- >> you are hiding behind that, because she is the one making the claims. she came on the program and i pushed her on this, respectfully, and i did. she had answers to all of these claims. they're just afraid to say we take issue with this woman who is suffering from cancer. >> right, i understand that her challenge as you articulated is the fact her payments are unpredictable at this point. but she has not proven the fact they're unpredictable. >> she doesn't have to. she is not in a court of law. she is criticizing obamacare because she lost her plan she liked that the president said she could keep. >> not because of obamacare. >> that is not what she said, you're wrong. >> if it had not been for obamacare, if she had lost her insurance under regular
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marine back in the iraq war and he may have saved others. the sergeant and others came under fire when a grenade was thrown their way. some of peralta's comrades were saved because of his work. he was denied the honor, that is the third time this has come up and the third time it has come back. sergeant ricardo peralta is joining us. thank you for your service and for your brother's, as well. i know there are now conflicting stories among the guys who were there that day. "the washington post" is reporting this, i know you're not happy with them, that some of the guys talked about how he originally fell on the grenade, said it did not happen. he was killed by friendly fire and we made up a story to try to make it seem like he was more
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heroic than he was. do you think it played into the decision and do you think these guys are telling the truth? >> i believe that these statements that these people are making are completely inaccurate. and you know, the facts are there. the facts do not lie. for example, there were two gentlemen there that are claiming these accounts by the names of brown and gonzales, those people were not in the room even when the grenade actually went off. so i personally don't think they have a say. also, allen, davy allen states he personally saw, he witnessed the grenade go off firsthand, but that actually did not happen. he took damage -- there was no way for him to have witnessed it himself when he was turned away.
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also this report did not mention in the evidence of the report, the obvious facts of how it happened. there was a grenade fuse that was pulled out from his flflac k.so we have enough evidence to prove that these allegations are not correct. >> two other marines are standing by the story of your brother's heroism. it happened exactly as they say it did and he should be awarded the medal of honor. it doesn't look like it is going to happen. this is sort of the last chance. why is it important to you? i know your brother wrote you a letter a few days before he was killed. and you shared it with us, he said you should be happy fighting for the u.s. constitution and freedom and that he was going to be a part of history. why is it important for you to have this medal? >> it is not really the importance of the medal. we have had caucuses, congressmen all fighting for
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this. the family supported it 100%. you know? these new allegations, they do not bother us whatsoever. we know what had happened. we were just fighting for the actual facts with all of this. it's sad that this decision had had happened. and is happening, but you know, the family from the first few years that this has happened, we always thought to ourselves that there is not a medal out there that they can give him. there is not a decoration or any sort of physical award that -- to be offered to him, we'll always be proud to the fullest of that. whether they decide to change their minds, give him the medal of honor tomorrow. that wouldn't change how we feel. we're proud to the fullest. >> yeah, and your country is proud of him, too. there is no question about his
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bravery and his courage out there. and he has had a navy cross awarded to him, a navy destroyer named after him. and his service is honored. thank you sir, for being here. >> thank you. up next, see what we learn about the man now in charge of prosecuting one of the president's biggest critics as we investigate claims that the case against dineuinesh d'souza be one of political weekdays are for rising to the challenge. they're the days to take care of business. when possibilities become reality. with centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters. with custom communications solutions and responsive, dedicated support, we constantly evolve to meet your needs. every day of the week. centurylink® your link to what's next.
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said to be replace eric holder. also the film critical of the president which became a surprise box office hit alleging they gave $20,000 to a friend of his failed senate campaign, ferraro says the donation was uncover pd a routine review. critics highly doubt $20,000 stuck out and say this was politically motivated. >> i think there is a fence here obama agrees hisñr critics not people who disagree but enemies and by the way, that is the big theme, obama's mentor says he should treat your opponents not as well-meaning people who disagree with you, but as bad guys. >> if convicted he is facing seven years in prison and a $1
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million fine. >> all right, trace, thanks joining me now, judge napolitano.ñr nudg judge, there is only so much he can say because he's facing charges but you have the "new york times" talking about this is a small amount. the question is why this guy? why this prosecution? >> these are questions the government has to answer and hasn't yet. they cannot commence by draw throeing darts on a board and go where the darts land and can't comb through files and say take a look at this one. there has to be a reason why they're going after something. >> let me ask you this. >> what if he did it? okay? let's assume for our purposes that he did. what i've read what is in dispute is why are they making a
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federal case out of it? >> that is the point. standard definition of crime and harm. no one was harmed here. >> she lost by a mile. >> $20,000 >> if you drop the law, you break the law. >> but the punishment must be commencerent of the harm. over $20,000 in cash is not commencent. >> who is calling the shots? who is in charge here? >> a fellow, a u.s. attorney here in new york city. has a very good reputation as an intellectually honest guy who goes after big time criminals i think this came from someone in washington for a reason
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probably connected with criticisms of the president. if that is true and i'm right, it's a hunch i've looked into longer if my hunch is right that is dastardly. >> and the chilling affect that that will have, and could have, on other right-leaning movie makers, right-leaning pundits. similar to what we saw with the irs. >> the government would have done better saying this is what we've discovered we want this fine. >> exactly. >> not we're going to ruin you. not we're going to expose to you seven years inçó jail and a $1 million fine over a misreporting of $20,000. he misrepresented to the government it's origin. that is wrong. i understand that. but if he did. that but the
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punishment has to meet the crime z the government's resources have to be appropriately spent. >> judge, good to see you. >> pleasure. >> well, also tonight the white house called out again for misleading on obamacare n december president obama apledged -- pledged if you like your plan you can keep it. last month, the white house got three pinocchioos warning folks ignore claims being made by the white house on the number of people signing up for medicaid because of obamacare. then, the president went out and said it again. despite that warning, today, yet another four pinocchioo rulings this time for the same discredited but just again-repeated claim on the medicaid numbers under his signature health care law.
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mark cason is a former speech writer for george w. çóbush. why does he keep saying this? how many pinocchioos can they give him? >> in the words of ronald reagan, there he goes again. how many times is the president going to lie to us about obamacare? what he said claiming 7 million people are newly eligible for medicaid because of obamacare sun true. it's made up. his own department, what he's doing is taking all people who up forñr medicaid since law took effect and saying it's because of obamacare. his health and human services says a lot would have been eligible anyway. you've got millions who joined medicaid every few months, just as a natural extension of the program. >> there are figures saying maybe as low as 1.1 million.
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we don't know the reason they're saying it because they want to build up numbers so they can say to people, see how many people we've helped? but for me and viewers it's a question of honesty. right, wrong, good, bad, we expect our president to be honest with us. >> that is right and i'm shocked how the stuff gets into the speeches don't they have a fact-checking department there? either they're calling and they don't like the answer and they're saying it anyway. they're incompetent or dishonest. but he got the law. he got the lie of the year last year. now, lying again on obamacare. this is the guy that lost the trust of the american people. another lie. >> it reminds one of a somewhat famous clip. >> oh, please help me, i'm awful sorry. >> you're speaking.
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a lie keeps growing and growing until it's as plain as the nose on your face. >> she's right. you better come clean. >> i'll never lie again. honest, i won't. >> please, your honor give him another chance. will you? >> give him another chance trust him again after the lie of the year. and the american people are pretty generous people. even whit comes to something as near and dear as health care. but how can we do that? over and over he is repeating these discredited claims? >> he keeps doing it over and over again. we give him another chance, he keeps blowing it again. this goishgs i don't know what it s i think there is an act of desperation, they're desperate for good news if they don't have any, they make it up. >> washington post says it's dismaying the president does not realize data are woe fully inadequate that he's using. >> yes. it's just,
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he's -- making stuff up in order to make the law. because there is no good news about obamacare. you know is in the problem is when you have the majority of the american people say he's not honest or trust worthy. he keeps coming out boy think after having gotten the lie of the year they would have decided we're going to scrub everything he says, carefully to make sure there is nothing seemingly questionable. they're in the doing. that they're telling lies. >> mark, good to see you. >> thanks, megan. >> dramatic developments in the case of 15-year-old justina pelleter. why a judge thinks this family is getting a raw deal. >> every time i see her, my knees buckle. it's tearing apart our family. -and a reunion in seattle. [man] when hotels have unsold rooms, they use hotwire to fill them. [woman] so we got our 4-star hotels... for half price. ♪ h-o-t-w-i-r-e
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. breaking tonight, more on a story we have been following closely here, the case of 15-year-old justina pelletier, taken into massachusetts state custody after her parents disagreed with doctors at boston children's hospital over her treatment plan. they believed at tufts, and apparently the folks at boston didn't like it. the parents devastated. the mother being taken out on a stretcher, she was so upset after learning their daughter may not go home with them and could soon be placed in foster
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care. justina's mother collapses there, and was brought to the hospital. he is currently working with the legal team, although legally on the case, you had the same reaction to this case as so many of us had initially, which is, there must be more going on here. what is the deal with these parents? because no court would just take custody of a 14-year-old child and deprive the parents for a year, and only being allowed supervised visits. >> megyn, it is a reaction that anybody would have when they see the story. they would say maybe something else is going on, something is going on with the parents. so before we got on and invested a lot of time in the case, we researched this. we found out more and more there is nothing going on with the parents that is an issue.
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in fact what we have is boston children's hospital and the department of children's service, dcf, taking this child away from these parents who love this daughter and who want to care for this daughter and who simply disagree with the recent diagno diagnosis of a newly minted physician who zbaed with the physicians at tufts. he is a medical expert at tufts, and in january of 2013, justina was figure skating in ice competitions, as well. and in february she develops a bad flu, stomach problems, unable to eat. so the doctor at tufts recommends she goes to boston children's hospital and recommends she sees a specialist there. they check her in, they never get a chance to see the specialist, she got a brand-new doctor who changes the diagnosis. it is not what your expert doctor says, it is all in your mind and then calls in dcf, who
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then interferes. >> and they get custody taken away from the parents. dcf basically deferred to boston childrens. they go in there, they don't have their own medical expert. they go to the judge and say the people at boston says they're abusing the girl. the judge says oh, that is bad, custody to dcf, but there is a whole team at tufts saying it is not abuse, it is based on a disease she has called mito. the folks at boston children's basically say mito is a crock. if it exists it doesn't exist in this case. and actually what happens is, it is not justina that has psychological issues, it is the parents. they used to call it munchausen by proxy, the child is not sick, but the parent is creating illnesses in the child and then getting unnecessary treatments and surgeries for the child. >> and here is the problem with
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that. because if that were the case and you remove the parents from her, then her natural conditions should improve. they have been removed for 13 months, they only have one hour of supervised visitation. most recently were there was a security guard during that one-hour visitation with her. instead of getting better, she is now in >> and we're showing pictures.ec those wheelchair pictures, look at the split screen, how she iss now. but could that also be psychological, the deprivation of her parents? they're downgrading her, the g severity of her medical condition by shifting her out of the hospital into foster care.e >> she doesn't get any medical treatment at all.se that even is worse. l on saturday, linda saw her with these five dcf workers, her stomach is protruded. she has red lines developing on her abdomen that could be signs
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of some sort of poisoning. she has bruises on her arms and a blackening under her eye. >> and theyey can't talk about , which is the really nutty thing. i want to carry this over er because we've got to talk about thisis gag order and how crazy that is, next. ..wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. oh, it's great. yeah. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. ♪ new at&t mobile share value plans for business. our best value plans ever. for example, you can get 10 gigs of data to share. and 5 lines would be $175 a month. plus you can add a line anytime for $15 a month. sharing's never been better for business. ♪ [do more than ever before with all-new in quickbooks.oks. make any place your place of business with it. get paid faster with it. run payroll with it. sync this stuff with that stuff with it. turn on only what you need with it. sample from our smorgasbord of apps with it.
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back now to matthew who was at the custody hearing today for the 15 year old justina. he is currently working with the legal team. let's talk about this gag order. they can't talk about what's happening in their family. the lawyers cannot talk. is this because justina is a juvenile? >> well, it's because i think dcf doesn't want to have any of this out in the public. you know, they can't even take a cell phone photograph of their
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daughter when they have these one-hour supervised visitations. so they can't show it to the public. i've never seen a gag order like this anywhere at all. there's a case in the massachusetts supreme court that overturned a gag order in a juvenile case where you have something similar to this situation. there is no reason whatsoever to prevent the parents from talking to any media other than wanting to cover up and keep this thing quiet. we only found out about it when it came out in the national media, and that's when we got involved. >> the boston globe has been doing great reporting on this. we started covering it. >> you've been reporting on it. that's how we learned about it. >> now it's really growing. >> and the american public wants answers. >> the question is can this happen with any family. with a hospital like boston children's. a hospital like this, you try to help your kid and the next thing you know, you lose custody of her for a year, and you can't speak about it.
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>> and it's not like they're refusing to follow medical treatment, they're following the treatment from the experts at tuft's. >> they moved to hold them in contempt for speaking out. do you think that's likely to succeed? >> i don't think so. i think this gag order is blatantly unconstitutional. today it was heart breaking to see linda collapse outside the courtroom, because of the stress. to see the three sibling sisters, some of them are adults, crying and just weeping over the fact that they can't see their sister. >> matt, i got to run. >> absolutely tearing this family apart. >> we'll be right back. i don't want to think about the alternative. i don't even know how to answer that. i mean, no one knows how long their money is going to last. i try not to worry, but you worry. what happens when your paychecks stop? because everyone has retirement questions. ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach.
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