>> alex trebek. >> and you got radio. >> i got to go. bye. see you. >> we'll see you guys tomorrow. have a great day. >> good looking cover. >> morning, everybody. arizona's governor is at the center of another controversy. jan brewer has until the weekend to decide if she is going to allow places to decide who can come in based on sexual orientation. >> i am bill hemmer. >> this fire storm is sending the nation into on uproar as

republicans are calling for her to veto the bill. three republicans are urging the governor to shut the door on this legislation. >> adam housely is leading the coverage. what will the governor do? >> it seems like she is leaning toward the veto. she has until saturday to decide. she came home to a fire storm over the bill. the bill itself would allow business owners with strong religious beliefs to not service or cooperate with certain customers. it is being sold as an anti-gay bill. business giants like apple and american airlines are urging

brewer not to sign this. and even the nfl is starting to weigh in because they are going to be hosting the super bowl. they are saying it would deal a significant blow to the economic growth potential. mitt romney tweeted vetoing this is right. he joins local business owners who are against this bill. >> there is outrage. confusion and a general feeling of why is this happening in arizona at a time when the economy is in the ditch, our schools are broken, our health care is in trouble. >> the governor needs to veto this because it is bad for business, but most importantly it is bad for arizona. it is bad for people like me. >> all you have to do is watch

social media. you are seeing tweets coming out. mccain is coming out against this. >> what are the proponents saying? >> they are saying they are still supporting the idea but now against it because of other things. it protects people from being sued, but some are saying it is going to be far. some for it saying this is fear mongling and they are sticking by it because it is the right thing to do it. >> they have determined somehow the bill is something that it isn't and now we have moved into the world of perception as opposed to the world of reality.

>> no matter what side the governor weighs in on, she is going to take her time and meet with both side. indications are she is probably going to veto this. >> even some of the state lawmakers who voted for his bill have changed their minds. steve pierce is one of them and she is -- he is going to join us and tell us why he thought it it was a good idea and now thinks it isn't. the president is saying that four million people have signed up for his health care plan and that is far short of seven million with technique -- weeks -- to go but now kathleen

sebelius is backing away from the seven million goal. >> that was the congressional budget office prediction when the bill was first signed. i am not sure where they got the numbers >> that is not what she said in september just days before the launch. >> i think success looks like at least seven million people signing up. >> stuart barny is joining us. what is going on? >> forget the rhetorical question. if a corporate executive had contradicted herself over the key numbers of her company, she would be gone. if a corporate executive let a website go down for days on end, she would be gone. if a corporate executive misled people on the performance of her

company, she would be sued and gone. but all of the above have happened on kathleen sebelius watch. as the poor rollout continues, there is deep frustration about kathleen sebelius' performance. >> so much goes to being straightforward. what is wrong with saying we were wrong at the numbers. >> the president held up four fingers saying four million people enrolled. and we don't know how many are young people who need to be enrolled and how many are paid. if you have not paid you are not

insured. >> if you have not been paying you could be booted off the program. >> yes. enrolled means you have chosen a plan. that is not much. >> we have hearing the fines are real and the irs is going to come after you >> here i am. >> we know where to find you too, man. >> at 11:00 now. >> fox news uncovering documents showing the red flags were raised on obamacare showing that security experts worried that 2/3rds of the website were rated high risk for hackers.

it raises questions about the warnings that were ignored in the run-up to the launch. and vulnerable democrats are not having a good time defending their support of this. kay hagan got grilled during the start of her reelection bid taking heat for republicans for telling people they would be able to keep their doctors under new plan. >> when did you learn that people wouldn't be able to keep their plan? >> you know, it wasn't right away. it wasn't something we knew. >> was it after the law was written you realized it? did you have a timeline? >> it wasn't clear, as i said earlier, that they were selling

substandard plans. >> more than 473,000 north carolina citizens would be booted off the plans that don't meet obamacare's standards. nine minutes passed. putin is ordering a test of the combat readiness of the troops. the troops in ukraine are struggling. and whether or not the country will align with europe and the west or moscow is what set all of this off. >> and president obama asking the pentagon to prepare for an

entire exit from afghanistan. he spoke with the president of afghanistan and said since she is not likely to sign a long-term security agreement that the united states needs to simply make other plans. the white house insisted the pack be signed for the troops to remain in the country after 2014. and the steory is their relationship is over. >> big stories overseas >> and why would the va destroy patient records? here about the bombshell tape that might prove that. >> and eric holder saying cou count counterparts can ignore laws that they think discriminate

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>> asian airlines hit with a fine for their deadly crash in san francisco saying it took up to five day for the airlines to contact passenger's families and provide other services required by law. the bowing 57 clipped the sea wall and slammed into the run way. the cause of the crash is still under investigation. eric holder telling a gathering of state attorney generals they don't have to

defend laws they think are wrong and that would include bans on gay marriage. holder's remarks getting a response from attorney attorney generals including j.b. van hollen telling quote it isn't his job to give advice on the constitution anymore than it is our job to tell him what to do. that man is with us. j.b. van hollen, thank you. what is eric holder saying here? >> he is saying we can place our views and opinions above state law. and we can't do that. when we put ourselves above the law that is dangerous. the highest law in the land is

the constitution and when we say elected officials can use their law as the higher law of the land this sets up us for a slippery slope. >> whether or not you agree with the law, it is your job to enforce it. >> absolutely. i am trying to educate voters in wisconsin for years that just because i defend a law in the constitution doesn't mean i support it. but it is the underlying rule of the society. if that bows to one elected official, it can erode the system we rely on >> what are you going to do? >> i will defend the state constitution. if there is any reason defend the law or rule or regulation of

the state, certainly the state constitution, i am going to do that. >> listen carefully to eric holder: >> i believe that we must be suspicious of legal classifications based solely on sexual orientation and we must endeavor in the to uphold values that all are created equal and entitled to equal opportunity. >> he gave the 1953 brown versus board of education. he said he would not chose to enforce segregration in schools. >> brown would have not been decided had not done that.

you have to have people it fend depending and challenging the law so the courts can rule on it. it is our job as attorney general to defend the law so the will of the people, in the case of wisconsin, a constitutional amendment passed by 60 percent of the people and two of the legislators, that will of the people needs to be defended and have their day in court. that is the primary responsibility of attorney general. this >> luther strange said a state attorney general has a duty to defend the state law and constitutional provisions against challenge under federal law. to refuse to do so because of personal policy pressure erodes the rule of law in which the freedom is founded. a government that doesn't enforce the law equally will

lead our society to disrespect the rule of law. i think he is coming for where you are coming from. how many ag's will listen to eric holder and not you and luther strange? >> threes -- there is -- going to be a balance of this. there is a long list of us that that will tell you we have defended laws we don't like or believe in. but we are doing so because we have the integrity to uphold what we were sworn to do. but when you have the attorney general of the united states giving cover to people who believe it is to their political benefit to not do their job, people are going to say i have to about -- ability -- to get

rid of it. >> have you known an attorney general who has spoken like this before in >> i have been a united states attorney for over seven years and this is unprecedented. it sends a message that the rule of law doesn't prevail to the people and that is eroding our entire system and it is a dangerous thing to say. >> j.b. van hollen, the ag from wisconsin, it is good to have you on. genetically altering food you have heard of, but what if we could modify babies? the fear of designer babies and the fda is meeting and talking

about this today. and then there is this: [screaming] >> seems like we are seeing this once a week. a fight on a school bus and what bus driver did. hitting a kid with a broom. cúp,@s#b

>> there is a big debate in washington over whether to allow so-called three parent babies. the fda is holding three days of hearing on a new technique that would create dna from three people to create embryos and it would help mothers who carry

genes for blindness and such and not passing on the genes. but the thought of designer babies to chose eye color or gender is up. the science and technology and moving so fast. questions like that need to be addressed. >> we will have a big debate about that coming up. another deep freeze gripping much of the country right now. the arctic blast is expected to dip below zero in minneapolis. how are you doing there in minneapolis? deicing their cars. one woman saying this is

toughest winter she can remember. >> this is really cold. >> it keeps getting colder? >> we just had 35 weather but it dropped right back down. >> do you think it will fo feinste feinstefoin -- continue --? >> yes. >> what is it like living here? >> i like the summer but hate the winter. >> how is the weather up there? >> many people are saying it is the worst winter and say are right. so far this season, minneapolis has seen 45 days of sub-zero low temperatures.

45 days this season and the record is 60 and that was set back in the 1800's so i am curious to see if we will set a record for lows dipping below zero in minneapolis. and six below zero all and eight below zero in duluth. those are actual temperatures. then you factor in the winds. and the wind chill temperatures are brutal. 32 below zero in duluth. we have a blizzard warning out here because we could we wind gust up to 50 miles per hour so blowing and drifting so are a big concern. the cold wind chill temperatures

are in place in dallas. it is feeling like 20s in dallas. teens in memphis. it is sticking around tomorrow and dipping in below freezing in the southeast. >> just a couple more weeks. spring is coming. it really is. >> you know we're going to get smacked with a storm the third week of march >> those are the ones people have no patience for. >> shocking reports of the va destroying papers intentionly. >> and will the governor arizona deny people based on their religious beliefs? we will talk to a lawmakers who supported the bill but changed

his mind >> this is going to bring us back down once again. >> i think they are misguided and that is not what we are out here for. we're wanting to uphold our religious beliefs as christians. religious beliefs as christians. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. [ m'm... ] great taste. [ tapping ] sounds good. campbell's healthy request. m'm! m'm! good.®

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veit though bill that would allow business owners to revoke religious freedom to deny service to gays or people of religions that do things they don't agree with. several state senators regret their vote for this bill but one republican is still supporting this. >> they are free agents. felt if they have responded to all of the pressure, it has been intense, that is okay. they are all good friends of mine. steve pierce voted for this bill but now he is ptelling the governor he hopes she vetoes it. how do you respond to your colleague that says you and others have caved on this bill? >> he is a good friend.

we have not caved. we had reservations at the beginning and we saw the outcry and realized it wasn't right. >> the bill says a business owner, church owner or coperation can deny service if motivated by religious belief if it burdens their belief. what did afraid would happen? >> it has gone from reality into perception and what is perceived is overriding of the bill. perception is it is a bad and going to be specific to gays. we didn't intend it that way. my colleague and i never thought it would be like that but that

is the perception and horrible for the damage it is going to the business and could do to our economy >> a a lot of folks we talk to on our your side. what did you think was good about it? how would it have helped business owners if the perception didn't get overrided? >> it was more like reinforcing if you go into a restaurant that says no shoes, no shirt, no service. you don't have to allow everybody in because maybe it is their religion to not wear a shirt or whatever it be. but to where it has gone from that to where it is now, the perception has taken over >> so business owners are afraid they could be sue and they say

this protects them from lawsuits. what situations would you like to see it be protected in? >> the same bill was passed last session went up to the governor was vetoed and no one said anything. and this year in committee no one came forward and said anything. what could happen, what i had originally thought would be like i said, it could be the no shoes, no shirt, no service. and we thought this was going to codify the right to refuse service on those things. but now people all around the world are saying this is about gays and lesbians >> it got connect today two cases. a baker who said he would not

make the wedding cake for a gay couple and the other was a photographer who said i would not take pictures at your same-sex marriage. do you think they had the right to do that as business owners? >> i think if you are talk about discrimination that is not right for anyone or anything. we don't want anything like that. but this was to codify an existing law that would say we have the right, it is my business if i refuse service to anybody. it isn't about any class of people. it was never intented like that. and after last friday morning when i started hearing, and reading and seeing in the paper and on television and hearing from others it was misconstrued to where it is the perception it

is one thing. when i look back, we were wrong and made a mistake, we know how to make it right and asked the governor to veto the bill. >> what do you think about the super bowl plans canceling and apple leaving? those are concerns? >> certainly. we are trying get mega events that are great for our economy and we don't need bad publicity. i trust this will go away and it will be fine. but that is why i am on the bandwagon of asking the governor to veto the bill. i am contacted by realtors having big business coming and we are doing everything we can

to enhance the business community. we hope we can get this out of the way quickly and go down to road. >> steve pierce, good to have you here. thank you, sir. checking on the market. dow down is 27 points and investors waiting on company earning up 35 points in the first nine minutes of trading. we will watch the market for you today throughout the show. a discovery that could make a couple $10 million richer. the treasure they found while out for a walk. >> plus a bombshell and disturbing allegations against the federal agency charged with taking care of the veterans. why would they destroy medical

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getting in their and canceling them ourselves. >> pete hegseth is here. i know this makes your blood boil. what would the intention be to destroy records of patients? >> there is one direct intention which is these are so old they are no longer relevant. someone passed way. but the more nefarious intention and you heard them saying anything over a year should be deleted is that bonus are tied to bait -- wait -- times and backlog. >> pete, that is horrible. if you are destroying records of

veterans for your promotion that is wrong >> administrators are forgetting who they are held countable for. bonus are given out on the mets and it is hard to get fired you have incentive to fudge paper and delete records and i know people who, and not people who are mistakingly on the list, but people with appointments were deleted. >> even if you destroy the records, the cases are not going away? there are patients and i would imagine they would need help. >> these are diagnostic test and the one person who contacted me his friend nearly died because he never got the dignostic test.

you have real people waiting and not knowing. >> this is specific to the la office? >> there is la, dallas, this audio came from the la office with where they were getting 3,000 request and could only schedule 800. so if your are deleting everything over a year you will catch people that have been waiting ever year >> is the la office the worst? >> it is one of the worst. there is the disability backlog claims, too. if you live in la, you don't have a chance to go else where. you cannot go to a private or different va facilities. so they are stuck with this environment waiting month for a

colonoscopy. >> there is a push in congress, we did this story, to allow more flexibility to fire executives at the va who some folks don't believe they are doing their job. where is that today and who decides whether or not an executive keeps their job? >> the secretary would decide that. it is called the veteran's manager countable act. jeff miller is carrying it in the house and marco rubio is carry it in the senate. there is a lot of support for this. how can you not support empowering the secretary to fire managers which is nearly impossible. >> who would be against that?

>> who could be against that? maybe worker's rights people. but look at defense? senior managers can be fired now and things are being handled. these employees should be held accountable for performance. >> the person that leaked this audio, was that person fired? >> that was a marine that said i will do this to my fellow veterans. he was forced to accept a payoff and was fired for blowing the whistle. >> we will stay on this, pete. pete hegseth prom from washington. this is caught on camera all too often. >> large tornado right there. >> powerful. but can they be stopped?

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>> shocking news video as a bus driver smacks a student with a broom after a brawl breaks out on the bus. that is cellphone video. the bus driver in the orange

hitting a student in indianapolis after a driver tried to discipline another student. the 14-year-old said it was her fault after she cursed out the bus driver, things were physical and she crossed the line. >> i have a fractured bone in my nose. i did start it. but that doesn't give her the reason to put her hands on me. >> she is suspended and prosecution is looking into legal charges from the school bus. a northern california couple unearthed millions of dollars in gold right on their property. how come this doesn't hap to know us?

claudia this is too good to be true? >> this is like winning the lottery. they don't want to reveal their name or where they live, but imagine their surprise when walking their dog they stumbled on to rusty cans and discover more than 1400 gold coins that were incrediblely rare and in mint condition. the couple stored the coins into cooler and googled around to nig area out their next move they hid the treasure again and put the coins back to the ground. >> they moved the pile, dug a hole, put the cover over it,

researched what do you do when you find such a treasure? >> they hired a top coin firm that will handle the selling that is estimated at $10 million. >> wouldn't you love to know the story of the people that buried it in the first place? what are they doing with the n money? >> they plan to continue living a simple lifestyle. pay off bills, donate to charity and keep a few coins as keepsakes of the discovery. >> wow. right? >> we have thing called the hemmer card. >> you think something is up

here? >> i want to know how they found them. was it all grown over? dirt where they never saw it before? because they said they walked that way hundreds of times. you would think the coin company might have through on the hemmer card if they thought something was up. someone buried it, bill. go with the story. >> the new details on how badly the white house botched the launch of obamacare. red flags were ignored just about everywhere. >> is this the rise of designer babies? the new procedure the fda is having hearings on today that could lead to a new different kind of child birth. we will debate it after this. that make me smile. spending the day with my niece. i don't use super poligrip for hold because my dentures fit well.

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martha: fox news alert. explosive new revelations today,

showing just how badly the white house actually botched the launch of obamacare because the details it would appear have been just scratching the surface here of the welcome to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. martha: yes you are. welcome back, bill hemmer. great to see you. bill: great to be back with you, martha. documents show that high level officials knew of security risks, serious risks now, with some of these websites but went ahead and approved them anyway 4hours before the launch on october 1. -- 48 hours a top security officer writing the following. quote, the front office is signing them whether or not they are a high-risk, end quote, that from late september. martha: chris stirewalt, fox news digital politics editor and host of "power play" of course on foxnews.com of the good to have you here. >> good morning. >> it is stunning when you take a look at this. documents revealing exactly what their concerns were about these connections.

let's take a look at this first one that we have here. let's pull that up. got it? there we go. cms views october 1 connections to the nine states as a risk due to the fact that their document may not be submitted completely nor reviewed by october 1. we all know of course the significance of october 1, chris. >> right. basically the warning here was, nobody was quite sure whether even the core was secure, the matrix on the federal level where all, basically the largest trove of consumer kind of data that the federal government has ever put together in one place, that has so much information about some americans, this is appending state systems on to that already uncertain core and dire warnings saying, we have no idea, we have no idea if they're even secure. the answer was, go ahead and do it anyway. that tells us a lot of about the state of mind of these folks getting ready to dot launch and

we've seen the consequences. martha: the way you put it, understanding connection between the states and what access the federal government has, if everybody just for a moment sort of thinks about, if you had in your home computer, your irs information, your social security information, your health care information, and you were going to say to another entity, okay, go. >> come on in. martha: go. i mean that's a big deal. >> well, and most telling perhaps is that they did not do the basic courtesy of warning human beings this was the case. if they chose to proceed with this launch, and said, now we have no idea whether it is secure so go for it, maybe you won't get all of your personal data stolen by russian hackers or maybe you will, we don't know. if they would have issued some sort of a consumer warning, maybe they need a surgeon general's warning on the obamacare website, if they would have done that, you could say it would be con shunnable, that they decided to proceed. but they didn't want to say that

because they knew people wouldn't sign up. martha: they say this is all hysteria, no breaches, no complaints, nothing. >> not that we know of. i doubt if anybody has successfully harvested anybody's data they sent out a press release exclaiming they have harvested this data and quite frankly given the failures in the past on accountability with this and other administrations, can we even be certain that no one has hid from us or kept from us for now other evidence? this is, this stuff is only coming out now. this is from september and only now do we find out that they took this risk with the consumer data. martha: trust us. that's the subtext. chris, thank you very much you. >> bet. martha: sign up to chris's daily newsletter. go to foxnews.com/foxnewsfirst for that. bill: in the meantime, fox news alert now, the irs under a microscope as a hearing getting underway on efforts by the tax agency to regulate political speech.

irs commissioner and treasury inspector general will testify. this is the house oversight committee is recalling former irs official lois lerner to answer questions about targeting conservative groups and the tea party. bring in mike emanuel. good northerning to you. why do they want to bring lois lerner back now. >> reporter: chairman issa says lois lerner's testimony will advantages the committees investigation. in a letter to learner's attorney, mr. issa wrote, miss learner's testimony remains critical to the committees investigation. documents obtained by the committee showed she play ad significant role in scrutinizing applications for the tax-exempt status for conservative organizations. miss learner participated partif plan work to develop rules that would allow the irs to stifle constitutionally protected political speech by non-profit groups. mr. learner's testimony will allow the committee to better understand how and why the irs

targeted certain organization. so darrell issa expects her to appear march 5th when this hearing reconvenes, bill. bill: they expect her to appear. what is the response from learner so far, mike? >> reporter: i've been in touch with william taylor iii who is her attorney. he expects to respond to the letter sometime today. we remember her coming up to capitol hill last may, pleading the fifth after giving an opening statement defending her actions. the committee says she remains under subpoena. they expect her to return. we await the response from learner's attorney, bill. bill: that would be must-see t have as well. mike thank you, mike emanuel on the hill watching all of that for us. martha: it is very busy day on capitol hill. we move to the house judiciary committee because they are looking into whether president obama went over the line of the constitution to advance his agenda. huge could not verdicts last several weeks for executive

orders. methods to restrain the president from using the white house to impose new regulations. jonathan turley is one of those testifying this morning. meantime more live pictures from the protests in ukraine. this as moscow reportedly flexes its military muscles as the struggle between east and west continues to intensify in ukraine. coming amid dueling protests in the crimea region. supporters of the ukraine's new interim government want closer ties to europe and to america. they are clashing with the pro-russian demonstrators. percent scenes on the streets in kiev and other cities in ukraine. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot joins me live from london. what are we hearing about this and the russian military being combat ready for this situation, greg? >> reporter: exactly, martha. the fear along russia might get involved in the unrest in neighboring ukraine.

those fears have been stoked today. russian president vladmir putin calling what he says is an your gent drill to test the combat readiness of his armed forces in the western part of russia including areas bordering ukraine. analysts cautions that he orders these drills regularly, six in last year. the time something interesting. russian officials do say they're taking new measures to protect the russian black sea fleet which has a big port in crimea in southern ukraine where you noted we saw the clashes today between supporters of the new interim government and those backing russia. we have gotten late word there might be one dead in those clashes, not confirmed. crimea just one of the areas in ukraine with a big ethnic russian population, concern about the western tilt of this latest revolution, martha. martha: there has been so much discussion here about what exactly the u.s. position is on what's going on in ukraine. is there any update on that? >> reporter: yeah, the u.s., martha, has been walking a very

fine line with this. today in kiev we saw deputy secretary of state william burns laid flowers and paid tribute in the makeshift memorials in independence square to those killed in recent unrest. at the same time secretary kerry said late yesterday the u.s. does not want this to become a replay the cold war, u.s. versus russia. he said and i quote, it is about the people of ukraine making a choice for the future. we hear the people of ukraine are making a few more choices. interim government today disbanding the special riot police thought to be responsible for some of the killing in recent violent clashes. later today we hear they will announce a new lineup for the new transitional government that has got to be put in place there. that can country is in economic dire straits as we've been reporting. figure is something like $35 billion in the hole. washington looking at helping to bail ukraine out.

martha: stakes very high for the people of ukraine. greg, thank you very much. bill: there is another alert. nasa set to release report today of a near death of an italian astronaut who nearly died during a spacewalk last summer, got very little attention. he nearly drowned when his helmet filled with water. the space agency admit that the suit leaked water once before but nothing was ever done about it. we talked about that a couple times with cory powell and few others and which haven't heard about us. mike masimo was with us who walked for hubble. we'll let you know what nasa says about that. difficult, difficult job. martha: well, another controversial arizona bill has sparked a national>> it's that r religious beliefs as christians. >> it is bad for arizona. it is bad for people like me. martha: two very vocal side of this debate.

governor jan brewer is under pressure to veto this bill. will she do it? what's in this bill, really and that coming up. bill: this might be the largest data hack in history. 360 million email accounts for sale on the black market. is yours one of them? plus there's this. >> oh, my god. >> it is almost stationary, dude. martha: dude, 1,000 twisters touching down in tornado alley every single year. now one scientist has a daring new plan to stop them. >> oh, my gosh. look at the screen. [ female announcer ] as you get older, protein is an important rt of staying active and strong. ensureigh protein... fifty percent of your daily value of protein. low fat and five grams of sugars. [ major nutrition ] ensure. nutrin charge!

bill: we've been waiting on this number now. we have it. fox news alert. news on the economy. sales of new homes jumping 9.6% in january? wow, that is the fastest pace in about five years. this somewhat of a surprise to

economists who thought sales would drop due to a lot of bad weather in many parts of the country. so that number is in. we'll see how the markets react shortly. martha: arizona governor jan brewer is at the center of yet another national controversy as she considers whether to veto a controversial religious freedom bill that would allow business owners to deny services to people if their religious faith runs counter to that transaction. gays and lesbians have been the focus of this because of some story that is went on in oregon and new mexico as well we'll get into. the state senators are divided over this bill. while some are standing by their vote, others are pushing for a veto. >> they have determined somehow that the bill is something that it's not and now we've moved into the world of perception as opposed to the reality. >> they caved. we had reservations at the very

beginning about this and we saw the outcry what would really happen, and how it would damage the state and we decided it was not right. we should have never gone along with it. we made a mistake. martha: alan colmes, host of alan colmes radio show and tucker carlson, editor daily caller and host of "fox & friends weekend." good to see you this morning. you see the back and forth. when i asked the state senator, what kind of behavior or incident he was trying to prevent with this bill in the first place, he said, no shirt, no shoes, no service, that kind of thing. you know, it seems like we've gone well beyond that though, tucker in the discussion of all of this. >> well it is pretty simple. if you want to have a gay wedding, fine, go ahead. if i don't want to bake you a cake for your gay wedding, that is okay too, or should be. that is called tolerance. when you try and force me to bake a cake for your gay wedding and threaten me with prison if i

don't, that is called fascism. so it's a little surprising we need a law to protect people against that. in the specific case in colorado, the baker who didn't want to bake the cake for gay wedding. i'm happy to bake cookies for the couple. i don't believe in gay marriage. i don't know a single gay person who would want someone to be sent to prison for not baking a cake for his wedding. who are we protecting here? martha: i gave example yesterday, you know you go to restaurant that hates kids and not nice to you there and not good with kids dropping stuff one the floor, you don't go there anymore, right? that is the way it was. isn't alan, enough in the constitution and books to prevent this kind of discrimination when it does happen? >> you are discriminating you have the right to say because you're gay i'm not going to participate or bake awe cake. if you're a place of public accommodation, you can't say i'm not going to serve gay, not going to serve blacks, jews, name whatever group. if you're open to public, you don't have the right to say i'm

going to exclude a certain group of people. now you got three senators, state senators who reversed their position. national senator, john mccain and jeff flake, saying please veto the bill. mitt romney comes out and says, please veto this bill. they realize how disasterous this would be for the image of the state of arizona. martha: it is politically troublesome, tucker. you have the two senators, mitt romney saying back off. not a good idea. >> they're afraid. a lot of people are afraid. that doesn't change the core argument here, should you send someone to prison for not baking a case for someone else's gay wedding and answer unequivocally is no. martha: if you're open for business, right. >> right. martha: you can't deny people based on, you know, based on their color, based on their sexual orientation. >> right. martha: how do you defend the baker who say, i'm not going to make your cake? they walk in. you're open for business to the public. why, why would you deny someone the cake in this instance?

>> there is balance of interests here. of course you know, don't want people discriminate against other people based on relevant criteria and skin color. you need to protect people's right to exercise their religion. clearly we're in a moment of national hysteria here where people who disagree get crushed. i thought the goal was tolerance we all get along. have diversity of views, can disagree without calling cops to get you sent to prison because you disagree with me. every gay person i know, i think would agree with that. who are these people who are pushing for the imprisonment of someone who doesn't feel comfortable baking a cake for gay wedding? this is insane, be honest about it, i don't care if jeff flake and mccain, romney, who cares what they think. the principle remains. you can't do this. it is sick. >> what is sick. >> sick to imprison someone not baking a cake. >> we can argue whether prison -- >> no, we can't there, is no argument.

>> question are, in fact. we can argue whether prison is right response. maybe could be a fine. but the fact is, i don't see how baking a cake for a gay couple is a rye religious violation. >> because you're not a evangelical christian. martha: the reason we're having this debate, the oregon situation where they didn't want to bake the cake for wedding, basically got pushed out of their business. had so many protests outside of their business of the they had to take their cake baking business back into their home because they refused to make this cake. >> that is free market by the way. that is free market speaking. -- >> it is not free market. using power of government to force other people to agree with you and crushing them if they don't. create a little room -- >> what if i'm business owner don't want to make a cake for black wedding. >> everybody is always, invoking that. it is ludicrous. what, 3,000 years of opposition to gay marriage. you doesn't with to hate, i'm not making this case. this is not my view i think it is important to acknowledge that you can oppose gay marriage and not be a klansmen.

>> i'm not calling anybody a klansmen. you can oppose gay marriage and open to the public and can't discriminate segment of that public has nothing to do with religion whatsoever. martha: tucker, that is the argument. you're open for business or not open for business. you can't choose based on different criteria. >> oh, but you can. martha: anymore a muslim bakery can say you can't come in here without your head covered to shop here. you can't do that. >> if you own the bakery you ought to have a little bit of discretion, you can't come into my bakery naked. you can't come in here around use vulgar language. if you own the business you have to some right to make a decision about how you serve. >> are you against the civil rights act of 1964. >> don't bring this. >> same principle. >> you're defending use of government to crush people, crush people who don't want to bake a cake for gay wedding. this has gone too far. everybody in america is terrified to tell the truth, this is insane.

is not tolerance this is fascism. >> the truth is your view is insane. we both can decide our own truth, right. martha: thanks, guys, interesting. thank you guys. >> thank you. >> alan, good to have you. bill: new controversy what some call designer babies. the new procedures that the feds are debating that could lead to a whole different kind of childbirth. details on that. plus this. >> our father, who art in heaven hallowed by thy name, thy kingdom done and on earth as it is in heaven. give us your day our daily bread. martha: they are getting ready for it. are you ready for the great wall of kansas. a mind-boggling proposal, to end tornadoes. could it work? >> blessed art thou among women and blessed is the truth. holy mary, mother of god. now and the hour of our destiny.

bill: we are 30 days from the deadly tornado season. what if we could stop a tornado in its tracks, literally blocking a twister before it can do all that damage. there is new proposal that calls for building several giant walls across tornado alley from there in the midwest. about 1,000 feet wide, 100 feet wide s that feasible? we have the tony from the storm chaser group. how are you, tony, good morning to you. >> i'm fine. bill: the idea to build giant walls, what do you think of that >> i think it is an idea. i don't think it is viable for number of reasons, logistics being one. what he is proposing i don't

think will have enough effect on big enough scale to mitigatornado dangers. bill: he being a physicist. >> correct. bill: they look at china. see mountains run north and south. that cuts down tornadoes affecting people on the ground. that is the concept. crazy? >>? >> the concept is not necessarily crazy but the mountain range several hundred miles in length and altitudes that vary thousands of feet compared to a wall half a football field in length, and, thousands of feet high. the difference between a mountain range and his wall are vastly greater. you really can't relate the two in any sort of scientific -- bill: have you heard of this possibility. even this concept before? >> i have never heard of this concept, i mean i understand the theory behind trying to block air masses but, you can't physically really do that with

man-made structures, especially great walls. all that air is still fluid and it will find a way to work around those walls or even up over those walls. so there is really no way to block an air mass with a man-made structure. bill: there's a price in this too. about every one hundred miles costs you $60 billion. you've seen destruction first-hand. these towns, sometimes they are leveled. is 60 billion a fair price? >> 60 billion could be used in so many other ways. i mean if you're talking, if you're talking 100 miles, you're talking, you know, 60 billion over five or six times easy, which easily could be used to build better structures or fund better research. the thing we need to focus on and continue to focus on the work to keep people safe from tornadoes. we still don't know how they form. we have rough idea, but if we don't really know the exact science behind tornadoes, there

we can sit there and stop things. money could be safe and better suited and funding better research. bill: alert systems too. tony, thank you. tornadoes hot. they don't just move in a straight hine line as overnet as case we've seen. we'll talk again. 28 past. here is martha. martha: the cost of medicaid is skyrocketing some 30,000 percent since the program was created yearsing ago. we'll at numbers and. bill: we warned about this, martha. smashing into the moon with results scientists never seen before. martha: that will leave a mark. bill: so if it hits the moon, just saying. martha: trouble. ♪

bill: 32 minutes past the hour. coburn is back at it. i will miss this guy in washington. martha: they are. bill: he is the king of shrimp on a treadmill. new report on government waste. take you over to 103. that is what we call the big fancy board and show you what senator coburn has come up with. going back to years for medicaid and the growth for this government system here. this is 1966, right?

4years ago, enrollment is four million. here in 2012 and coburn says you're 55 million enrolled in medicaid. what is the cost of such an enormous program like that? 800 million in 1966. an astounding$50 billion now in 2012. -- 250 billion. percentagewise, to put it in perspective, increase of 231,000% in the 46-year period. tom coburn, republican from oklahoma. charlie gasparino works here with us at fox business network. how are you, charlie. those are stunning numbers, not just medicaid. what do you think? >> that is mind blowing. would look at this, look at rates of inflation, the cost of food has gone up 31,000% since '66. we would be germany, weimar republic, when people were carrying around, we would have wheelbarrows. >> that is the problem.

listen, we should point out that you know, there are advances in medicine you pay for and there is normal rate of inflation would contribute to the increase but this is really scary because in many ways, obamacare is kind moved he willed off of this. you get a pool of people, right, that you want. you get, that put some premiums in the program and there are some subsidies as well. more healthy people pay for the less healthy people. that is essentially what you have with obamacare. not quite exactly the same, before media matters calls. not exactly the same but similar idea. bill: what coburn is saying already, obamacare has doubled in price. that is what he concludes. >> although we point out it is a little too soon to figure out exactly. obamacare is not fully implemented, but, but, here's the problem with this. if you look how medicare, medicaid, all the government program that involve some subsidies and premiums and how it is structured it is not that much different than obamacare. that's the problem, if you have government that much involved in an insurance program, it is

almost like on autopilot. that is what we have here. bill: but the politicians don't touch this stuff because it is outside control of the budget. if you had a vote you could not do anything bit. >> i agree. politicians never touched fannie and freddie until it blew up and costs us a lot of money. that is where we're going. sound great, fannie and freddie, affordable homes for everybody. this sound good too, medical care for elderly and sick and people that can't afford it. the row to serfdom always begins with good intentions. when government is this much enmeshed in a program like this it always leads to disaster. bill: a couple things he fears coburn says, obamacare is next one to join the club of medicaid as we just pointed out. medicare, 16,750%. defense health programs, 1300%. veterans medical care, 4500%. all this now -- listen -- bill: got to pay for it, charlie. >> every time the government is involved in these programs they

balloon greater than the rate of inflation. look why housing prices went up so much. i give you a analogy. they went a lot because you have government involvement. went up until the rate of inflation until they crash. this stuff always crashes in the end, unto the northly. bill: unfortunately. see you on fbn. charlie gasparino. what's next, martha? martha: thanks, guys. there is a big push underway for dallas to host the 2016 national convention. the last time it was in the big d, 1984 when delegates officially nominated president ronald reagan for his second term. casey stiegel live in dallas with more. casey, why dallas this time? >> reporter: the mayor and former u.s. senator from texas say it is about time for big d to get this thing. part of the bid they will be submitting to the committee today talks about how dallas is centrally located, right in the middle of country, easy to access with a major airport here. lots of restaurants. lots of stuff to do outside of the convention, not to mention

about 35,000 hotel rooms less than two miles from where the convention itself would take place here at american airlines center because a common complaint among delegates in years past, long commutes from their accommodations to the convention space. plus, dallas would also like to benefit from the millions and millions of dollars this would bring in. it's a wonderful economic boost and thank goodness people are willing to contribute to the host committee to bring all the venues accessible and it will be good for dallas. >> reporter: between all the delegates and media, it is estimated about 40,000 people converge on a city for one of these conventions, martha. a lot. martha: yes, indeed they do. last time we were in tampa for that event which is a swing state, florida, dallas going after this because they are largely a red state?

>> reporter: well, it is interesting because senator hutchinson says this is not about politics. she says this is more about showcasing the city. but it has been a while of the last convention as you said was held in texas in 1984 when then president reagan was nominated and subsequently won his second term but one political analyst tells me these conventions are very much about politics and since texas doesn't really help, help energizing the gop, other places vying to host this, like vegas, phoenix, kansas city, denver, columbus, cincinnati, cleveland, stand a much better chance. >> in recent election cycles conventions have been put in toss-up states to try to draw that state to your side. texas is going to go republican. >> reporter: so we'll have to wait and see what the rnc decides. a decision not expected for quite some time. 2016 will be here before we know

it, martha. martha: we will. case sir, thank you very much. bill: if you could filter unwanted genes for your unborn child, would you do it? the feds now considering that controversial procedure and we'll debate the latest version of designer babies in america. martha: and a giant reptile invasion. so where are these guys lurking? and what are they exactly? we'll tell you when we come back ♪ bill: not a crock? not a gait tore? gator. ♪

bill: could be one of the largest data hacks we've ever seen. a cybersecurity firm found stolen email addresses and passwords of some 360 million accounts for sale on the black market. the accounts are from major providers like aol and google, microsoft and yahoo!

experts say this breach could be worse than stolen credit card information since many use the same credentials for other accounts, allowing criminals access to virtually any computer system. and on it goes. martha: so the fda is considering a controversial new technique that would combine dna from three different parents to create a baby free of certain genetically-passed diseases. michael graham, radio talk show host for the new england talk network. richard fowler is the host of the richard fowler radio show. gentlemen, good to have you here. so basically, it is an effort to avoid genetically-passed diseases like blindness or epilepsy and it takes, you know, the initial embryo and basically mixes in the mother, the father and then one outsider who can replace the genetic, the genes that might cause that problem.

so you have essentially got three parents in the mix of this baby potentially. richard, what do you think? >> well, listen, i got to tell you, obviously there is regulation there. i think it is good to see science working to sort of fix genetic ills, or wills i would be the right word here. we'll see what happens. this research shows how powerful science can be to make sure we have healthy babies in this something. i think it is start of something. we were talking about couple years ago in vitro fertilization, or ivf, people said it was horrible thing and now people are using to for a lot of families. we'll see what happens. martha: michael, many say it is slippery slope when you open up this door. we have mapped the human genome and potential to do these sorts of things is open-ended. >> the story resonates particularly here in boston because they're talking specifically about mitochondrial disorder and we have the horrible case of justine being abused by department of children and families and boston

children's hospital. she would never have been born with might cocon deal disorder she would have spent last year with her family. at the same time we're not talking about slippery slope. we're talking about the slope, the bottom. i'm going in and decide this embryo or potential embryo is not acceptable. i will take out the bad genes and put in good genes. everybody agrees that mitrocondral is bad. what is the gene for being gay or obese or number one health problem, this is saying up front, i know people who have value and they're not the people with wrong genes. martha: i will get back to that in a moment, and also when you take a look at this, talk about genetically modified foods which everybody thought there was such a great idea and now there is lot of discussion by doctors that these genetically modified foods are not good for you. you have the potential to open

up a laboratory that may have very awful outcomes in some way, richard. >> i think you're definitely right, martha. we need to make sure it is regulated and bioethics folks in there making sure wedone in ther responsible way so we don't have a slippery slope on bottom. i think you're definitely right on that point. i am happy to being lgbf is a gene. that is good stuff, michael. >> that is lot -- >> might want to read the science and first 18 months development plays in that as well. setting that aside, once you decide that you know a human is valuable based on their gene code, that is eugenics. that is the premise behind hitler's attempt to create the perfect race. why margaret sanger started movement that eventually became planned parenthood. there is talk about slope. there is no slope here. we're at it. >> richard that is the sort of bottom as michael puts it where

you're picking out a child who has red hair and green eyes and all the perfect things that you're hoping for in that child. that is the door that is open here to creating what we refer to as designer babies. >> no, you're definitely right there. i think it is the door open to creating designer babies. make sure as we approach it and not only slowly and caution but with all the right regulations making sure it is done as well as could be done as how ivf is currently done. making sure it is secure. making sure families have choices. and making sure the families know impacts getting their family involved in i guess call it genetic shopping. this is point in the country we should look to adopting and using form of creating families and so many little kids want a place to go and better than that than a designer baby. martha: i was one of those people who didn't want to know whether it was boy or girl until it was all over. that is great surprise because always is in really every way,

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martha: well you know florida has plenty of gators to worry about but now they're dealing with new threat, giant lizards from south america invading the sunshine state? the tegu is becoming a big problem apparently. no wonder. they can grow up to 4 1/2 feet

long and have a voracious appetite. >> when we allow the tegus to move in, they have a free buffet. they eat as much of these animals as they can. that can definitely have a negative impact on animals that are slow to grow, such as gopher tortoises. martha: ew. many fear their pets may be on the menu. biologists will set up traps and weather will heat up to catch lizards when they surface from their bureaus. creepy -- burrows. creepy. bill: 11.99. dig in. an asteroid slamming into the surface of the moon with such force scientists believe it was the biggest impact ever recorded. it is a giant rock, about the size of a car, flying through space at 38,000 miles-an-hour, smashing into the lunar surface, creating a crater the size of a football field. with such a flash, anyone

looking at earth could have seen it. cory powell from "discover" magazine. how are you, cory. >> it happened during the day in the united states. i missed it. bill: so your european friends -- >> my european friends, spanish colleagues are responsible for this discovery. bill: what happened? tell us. >> the cool thing, scary thing, this is happening all the time. just most of the time you don't know it. rocks hit the earth all the time and they land over the ocean, they break up in the atmosphere. we don't really know what all is coming down until you get something really big and really dire like that, one that crashed over siberia almost exactly a year ago which sent 1500 people to the hospital. bill: amazing stuff. that was day time, too. >> that was during the day. bill: why does it matter, this one? >> well so basically because it's hard to monitor what is happening here on earth, is easier looking at the moon. the moon is kind of a mirror. it is a mirror you hold up to see what is happening.

the kinds of things that hit the moon also hit the earth. more things hit the earth. you watch the moon to understand how many out there? how big are they? do they travel in storms like meteor showers. bill: more hit the earth than mitt hit the moon? >> on earth a lot break up in the atmosphere of the really big ones like the one over siberia, those are dangerous once. the small ones are not a big deal. the big ones create a air burst. he that is like a shock wave that caused most of the damage. bill: talk to us about the danger here. >> the danger is, look it is not enormous danger but it's a real one that's out there. you know we monitor weather and volcanoes and earthquakes all these things. we do almost nothing to monitor all the stuff that is coming at us from space. so that is why it is down to a handful of spanish astronomers who are using two little telescopes looking at moon collecting this information. because nobody else is really

doing it. bill: those astronomers didn't know about what was to happen? it was pure chance? >> this is robotic telescope watching the moon looking for this because we're collecting the statistics to learn what all is raining down on us. bill: what have they learned and what now have you learned. >> basically we've only been watching this since 2005. so we don't even have a decades worth of information but we're seeing a there are a lot of more of these small asteroids than we thought. a lot are hitting the moon and a lot hitting mars. that asteroid that hit in siberia was supposed to be once every 500 year incidents, but those once in every 500 year incidents seem to be happening 50 years. there is 10 times as much risk than we thought. bill: i'm trying to figure out whether you know or someone else knows about how we can better alert ourselves? >> i do. there's a there's a little pilot program from the university of hawaii called atlas. doesn't cost very much this is

not an expensive project. you build automatic telescopes, do maybe, you know, half dozen observatories around the world that can be expect connected to universities. they can be underwritten by academic departments. might not even cost the government any money. bill: we like that. >> you train graduate students and make your graduates students basically into your advance warning brigade. it's a great project that just needs somebody to spearhead it. bill: that is cool. hit the moon thankfully. thank you, cory, we'll talk again. >> absolutely. bill: martha. martha: good stuff. new numbers show enrollment in obamacare still falls short of the white house's goal. that is not only trouble brewing out there. why one top lawmaker is calling it a sucker-punch.

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