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putin spent an hour talking on the gone about the crisis in ukraine. president obama demanding russian forces withdraw from crimea and go back to their bases. but vladimir putin refused to back down saying his actions are consistent with international law. violent protests have broken out in other cities in eastern ukraine. people in ukraine are very concerned about where they live. the white house is saying there is a way to resolve this diplomatically, despite the fact that yesterday's phone call didn't go so well. >> reporter: during the phone call mr. obama reiterated to mr. putin that their actions are a violation of ukraine's sovereignty. but he he there is a way out.

he proposes the governments of russia and ukraine hold direct talks and international monitors would insure that the rights of russians andette nicks are protected. and also secretary kerry will continue his discussions with lavrov. they plan the to annex crimea with a referendum vote. but people wonder how they can be free and fair elects when the russian troops are surrounding every place in the crimea.

bill: chris christie receiving a warm welcome at the cpac convention. the new jersey governor taking jabs at the president for failing to bring down the huge national debt. >> man, that's leadership, isn't it? you are the leader of the government and you see something getting ready to go off the rails, what you decide to do is stay as far away from it as possible. if that's your attitude, what the hell are we paying you for? [cheers and applause] bill: and on it went. senator ted cruz telling the crowd that republicans must take a stand. >> we can choose to keep our head down and not rock the boat and not stand for anything or we can stand for principle. if you stand for principle they

say you lose elections. the smart way is don't stand against obamacare, don't stand against the debt ceiling. don't and against nothing. bill: that's texas governor rick perry on stage now. there will be a long list of speakers on day two and carl cameron back at his post. what do you think was the story that emerged from day one? >> there was a lot of pressure chris christie to perform well. there is scepticism the political action conference for the blue state of new jersey but he got a warm reception ned and he did so in part arguing the republican party need to take a pragmatic attitude to govern. that made a contrast to what ted cruz said yesterday. yesterday you had bobby jindal

and paul ryan. it was the setup of nine candidates that will be speak at the political across conference. all of them eyeing the race. paul ryan said he thinks it's type for rebellion on the battle for ideas. conservatives are have much playing out the debate about how best to move forward as a party and a movement and put conservative candidates in elections and win in november as well as 2016. bill: what is expected today? >> reporter: we'll hear from mike huckabee who won the 2008 iowa caucasus. he's a fox news contributor.

we'll hear from rick santorum who came close to winning the iowa caucasus in 2012. and senator rand paul won the straw poll and it round out the various personality types and approaches to conservativism that will be in play make up the primaries now and in 2. >in -- and in 2016. bill: who is the star? i'm interested to get your responses on this. talk to us on twitter the next few hours and we'll see what they say. martha: rand paul coming up so lots more to come there. he hoped to make a difference between life and death for a minivan full of children.

>> they were saying help. martha: the man rushing out of the car and risking his own life going out into the water. he's here in america's newsroom to tell his own story. bill: is there a serial killer outside washington, d.c.? the eerie similarities between three shootings and the hunt for a killer. martha: this is epic between darrell issa and elijah cummings. congressman issa responds. >> i followed a script and mr. cummings decided to have a hissy fit.

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bill: an update on lois lerner's hearing. darrell issa apologizing to he. bill: an update oning will *'s hearing. darrell issa apologizing to elijah cummings. late last night congressman cummings said he accepted issa's apology. earlier in the day the reverend jesse jackson tweeted that issa's behavior was crude, wrong, racist and mean toward congressman cummings. >> i followed a script and mr. cumming decided to have quite a hissy fit.

if he wants to talk i give him lots of chances to talk. we'll have additional hearing on the irs. miss lerner, he had a chance to speak as much as he wanted in the vote. bill: today we are wondering where this goes. you say issa had to apologize. >> he made a classic mistake. when you are conducting the investigation the investigator can't become the story. iss sarks became the story, he was boxed in, on the irs something they have been defensive about. behind closed doors there is a lot of pressure on issa to do this. that's why he did it. bill: why is everything racial? >> i think that's ridiculous going to motive on that. i don't think elijah cummings would say that because cummings

accepted issa's apology. issa may pursue contempt charges against lois lerner. bill: does the story go back to the central character, lois lerner? does this story fade? >> i think the issa controversy will fade because he has apologized. but then what will the house do? i think the focus will be on lerner. issa is in his last year as commute he chairman. he has to get something new out of this to get this going but lerner is not talking. that's why we may see contempt charges. bill: others would disagree with that characterization. does this get in the way of issa's pursuit in any way? he's the chairman of the

committee. >> this is a delay and distraction, but that doesn't mean he's not going to pursue this. there is real tension between issa and lerner and her attorney. that's the next story. it looks like john boehner supports holding her in contempt. i think that will be the next story in the next month or so. watch. >> the hearing was a continuation of a previous hearing. and the issue is oure -- is ourt to get to the truth of the irs and groups around the country some in the administration don't agree with. mr. issa was within his rights to adjourn the hearing when he did. bill: what happened next week. >> putting the issue back on the table and not issa's actions.

so i think issa is going to move forward on this. he clearly has the votes on the committee to hold her in contempt and in all likelihood the house will move forward and they have the votes to do this. we'll see a partisan battle on this and one question people need to look at. when will the senate finish its bipartisan investigation on the irs? it still has not released that. the finance committee chairman just left. he's now an ambassador to china. you have a new chairman coming in who worked with republicans before. but i'm not sure it's going to happen before the election. martha: this is the navy destroyer u.s.s. truxton istanbul heading toward the black sea for exercises with

romania and bulgaria. it's expected to be in the black sea for days. this is the kind of thing many people saying that a little bit of visual show of our military might in the region might be a helpful thing at this point. an amazing picture as you see the u.s.s. truxton off the coast of turkey. bill: one community gripped by fear as police launch a manhunt for a possible serial killer. martha: cpac and the conference is underway. john cornyn taking the stage. chris christie and marc marco rubio firing up the crowd. who will be the voice of the gop? our panel talks about that coming up. >> we can't ignore the foreign policy of the last few years has

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martha: fear is gripping a d.c. suburb where police are hunting for a serial killer. police say there are similarities in the murder where three people were gunned down within a mile of each other. >> we'll investigate all possibilities. martha: mark fuhrman, a former lapd detective joins me now.

why do they say they see similarities here? >> they won't release certain similarities in the case that might come down to the interviewing of possible suspects or somebody that would unknowingly state something that they have evidence in the case. so we don't know what those are. they released the weapon in so much as saying a small caliber weapon which in police terms is probably a .22 to .25 caliber. martha: the pattern that's repeated is the killer walks up to an us suspecting residential home in a nice neighborhood, rings the doorbell and fires one shot, right? >> it's an interesting m.o., but i think it falls short of a serial killer. it's very sloppy and

disorganized. we don't know if the homicide 10 years ago is very similar or remotely similar, and the bullets, and they are not stating it's ballistically matched, they said "characteristics." which would mean the type of caliber and the contents of the bullet is the same. so they feel confident in that. but you can have somebody that commits multiple murder, two or three or just an additional to cover up the one murder they are connected to the victim. martha: you say it's possible they will look at people recently released from prison who may have been away for the last 10 years? >> you have a reason somebody isidor man or have they been dormant. they will reach out to all other agencies in the country.

they have a system where they will look at other homicide or small caliber weapon. the same m.o. where they go up to the door and shoot. if they can't connect that up they will have to assume the suspect has been dormant, possibly in prison, possibly in another country, possibly in some other way out of the area. martha: i remember the d.c. sniper and it appears again this community is very nervous and on edge about this killer. mark, thank you, we'll keep an eye on it. bill: a man leading reporters on a frantic chase on the streets of l.a. because he's believed to be the inventor an internet phenomenon and he says it's the case of a mistaken identity. martha: chris christie bringing the crowd to its feet with his

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new jersey governor chris christie walk out to a standing ovation saying republicans need to be more than just the party that wants to repeal obamacare. >> we talk about being a free market society and not the government determining winners and losers which is what this administration has been all about. we need to make sure we say we are for america being a leader in the world and we are for a strong national defense, not one that allows other countries to run us over all over the world. [applause] martha: america loves the comeback kid. is chris christie that comeback kid? mary katharine ham was voted cpac's blogger of the year.

and she is there as you can see. steven served as communications director for former governor corgovernorcorzine. i'm curious what the mood was on the floor and what people are saying about what he said. >> he was politely received, if you are looking for people to get a bad reception that doesn't happen. but there was more enthusiasm that i thought there would in the room. i think he gave a nice speech. a lot of times we try to write comeback their tifs as turning on a dime. i don't think that's how it works. he came in and said i'm making a climb back with conservatives which i think is what he has to do with the general public after

bridgegate. and i think that was a good beginning. martha: the beginning of his speech he retold a story about early on in his career at governor walking into an unfriendly crowd of firemen whose pensions he was about to rein in to save the program. he's making the point he's been threw the fire before and when he gets on the other side of it people tend to think he did a good job. how do you think he's doing turning things around for himself. >> chris christie is a very skilled communicator and skilled politician. but one day does not a comeback make. the broader question is whether even before bridgegate conservatives and the tea party conservatives who run the party would have accepted somebody who they don't see as a down the line conservative and i think the answer was no even before

bridgegate so it continues to be no. martha: mary katharine what do you think about that? you have got rand paul who we'll hear from today, and you have got ted cruz who represents that tea party voice, then you have chris christie who says we have to win elects. he's seen as somebody who may have an easier time of it on a national stage. >> i think that's true electorally speak. mitt romney and john mccain were not straight down the line conservatives. and they did a good job of ticking people off. but what i'm saying about christie, don't necessarily count him out of that primary process. tea party conservatives loved him prehurricane sandy obama embrace when he was hammering the media.

conservatives love that kind of stuffed. he has had plenty of opportunity during bridgegate to do it and they do warm to that. and he's effective doing it. >> that's my point. chris christie made the mistake of actually appearing with the president of the united states in the wake of an incredible tragedy in new jersey and conservatives have never stopped punishing him for it. they forced their candidate to the right and forced their candidate down the line in conservative positions that are out of step with the country and they lose national elections as a result. martha: that's what this question comes down to. when you see the cpac straw poll, ron paul won it for years. rand paul is said to be one of the top contenders. but that does not always set people up very well for the bigger picture. >> i think that's the case in any contested primary.

i would argue in the democrats case obama's position on aboring is way out of step with the american public and their opinions on this. it's a matter of being a good communicator. if there is something that convinces him as the number one thing he has been able to communicate effectively with conservatives and that's what he rely on if he wants a comeback. martha: if you were advising him, what would you tell him to do from here on in to get past this bridgegate thing and put himself back on track? >> i think he's making the right choices as long as another shoe doesn't drop. to foe out and go national again and make himself palatable as a national contender. whenever he goes out in new

jersey the questions from the media are all about bridgegate though the questions from the public are not so much about that. what he's doing is to go out and renationalize himself as somebody who is legitimate and a serious candidate is the right direct for him politically for the time being. martha: that's true. he seems to be finding a pretty good reception when he travels around the country. he's doing well in the fundraising for the other candidates which is an interesting indicator as well and eight doesn't go unnoticed'. thank you very much. mary katharine, steven, thank you very much. bill: the man people believe is the creator of this online currency called bit coin says he's never even heard of it. here he is leaving his home in california leading reporters on a high-speed chase as went to the aassociated press offices to set the record straight.

who is this guy and a lot of people trying to understand bit coins. >> it's complicated. it's digital money that's traded over the internet like other currencies are around the world. but this is purely regulated by the internet and it's object cure but it is worth billions of dollars. the man behind it is also been a bit after secret. no one has ever met him. only communicated by email. the man you see on the screen according to "newsweek" is that guy. he turns out to be leg with his mom in los angeles. in an attempt to flee the media. he came out of the house and says the first journalist who buy me a free hundred' get an interview. he gave this denial on tape.

>> the main reason i'm here is to clear my name that i have nothing to do with bit coin. nothing to do with developing. i was just an engineer doing something else. >> reporter: but the thing is in the rest of the interview he contradicts himself and issues further rebuttals. and so it looks like it is him, he's just a bit embarrassed that he's being unmasked. bill: this is online currency and potentially some strange happenings involved with bit coins. tell us about that. >> reporter: they have a bit of a murky reputation. a week ago we saw a suspicious death in singapore of a u.s.ceo of an exchange. her body was found near her apartment block. the police in singapore say her death is unnatural but they are

ruling out foul play. this comes weeks after a big bit coin exchange, $500 hi in investors minivan issued overnight and nobody is sure where that money has gone or when they will get it back. bill: thanks, dominic. martha: an early peek at the market action on the heels of a nice rise in the jobs number. 175,000 jobs were knead february. it's more than what was expected for the jobs added number. getting a bit of a boost with that as a backdrop. the dow jones industrials closed 16,41 yesterday. bill: we need some oxygen. a college basketball fan

apparently thought he was part of a game rushing the court to give a coach a piece of his mind. martha: bring it on. love it. new video of ordinary people who saved the lives of four children. this is a tragic story. this mom obviously having some problems and she drove her car with her children into the ocean. the man the yellow jacket did not think twice about rushing over there to help. he joins us live next coming up. >> she was talking about jesus and there is demons in my house and i'm trying to control her and keep them safe.

martha: a crazy scene at a college basketball game. in the middle of the action a u.c. santa barbara fan runs on

to the court. apparently he's going to talk the the coach. that fan was escorted out. he was also arrested. the incident the third time in a month a college hoops fan has come into contact with a player or coach. bill: hey, dude, go back to the beach. martha: sit down and take your seat. bill: tim tesseneer and his wife you riding along daytona beach saw something they couldn't believe. it made the continues between life and death. >> this thing needs help. bill: three children in that minivan with their mother.

tim tesseneer putting his own life in danger trying to save them. tim is back at work in north carolina. >> how are you doing? bill: i'm doing fine. job well done. i can't imagine what you were thinking when you saw that and heard that. >> at fir we thought they was cutting up having a good time, look at us, we are breaking the wall. it's only one lane through there at the top of the beach. then we got to listening. we got to listening and you could hear kid, i thought i heard a faint help. then it was more clear, a cry for help. i paro the van. it was unbelievable. bill: were the windows closed when you got to the van? >> when i got to the van the

windows was down. the kids was old enough to realize how to work the windows. the oldest kid was in the front seat fighting his mom with the steering wheel trying to turn away from the water. then robinson showed up a minute after i did. he was from orlando. we started talking to the mother telling her you have got to get ouout of this water, they are breaking the law. they will take to you jail for this. the police was already on the way. you could hear the sirens coming from a long way away. bill: what did she say to you or how did she look at that point? >> she finally turned around to us and looked at us and her eyes was real big. it was a spaced out -- it was terrifying. she looked -- i'm using the word

"possessed." i can't kribt. the look on her face. all she said is we are okay, we are going to be fine. she looked out and took a hard left turn into the deep water. bill: what were the kids saying at that moment. >> the one in the back seat was screaming "please help us, our mom is trying to kill us." at that point stacy and i sprung into action. we had to get the kids out of the water. bill: the mother i believe is getting medical attention. she is still in the hospital. where are the children? >> last i heard they are? state custody. they are trying to you find the immediate family for them. i heard they are doing well. they were checked out at the hospital and they are doing okay. bill: how are you doing, tim? >> i'm doing better now. wednesday was quite a fiasco at the house. i didn't realize there was

that's tv crews and radio stations. they was all in my front yard. it was quite something. bill: are you doing okay? >> i went back to work yesterday. it's raining on us all day today. bill: that's the way it goes sometimes. as i said in the beginning, job well done. my best to you and your waive and family in daytona beach. enjoy the weekend. well deserved. martha: he's a real hero. if he hadn't been there that story would have a different ending. tough story, it really is. so amazing new technology august of some new protect for our troops from deadly scene like this one. watch this. the new device that could be a game changer for our brave men

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the ukraine continues to dig in today. welcome, even, to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm martha maccallum. bill: and i'm bill hemmer, russia's foreign minister saying it will retaliate if new i sanctions are imposed against that country. the white house and european leaders have promised as much. this as new protests break out on both sides of the conflict yet again. martha: shepard smith is live in kiev. >> the announcement of sanctions that came in the late hours yesterday. they are very upset about it, and the quote is russia will not accept the language of sanctions and threats and will retaliate if the sanctions are imposed. these sanctions would make it much more difficult for russians to travel into the e.u. and beyond. some visa restrictions that have been announced, and they are none too pleased, neither are people on're side here in kiev and down in the crimea. today our photographers went out

into the russian embassy and found aen in straight going on there, mostly women, and that's been the case we've seen all over this region, women who are upset about what's happening, they don't want the interference from russia, and they were out in small numbers today but out nonetheless here in kiev. down in the crimea, a different scene as we've reported repeatedly, the majority of people there are pro-russian and have russian ancestry, and they are very upset about interference from kiev, as they put it. they'd like to be aligned with russia, their hopes are to be aligned with russia, and there's a vote on that in nine days. there was one person dragged away there or one that we could confirm, anyway a, because there's video of it. certainly, tensions are high especially in the crimea where the locals are now beginning to discuss how are we going to convert to the ruble, what because this mean -- what does this mean to our businesses, our homes, especially wondering if any of their properties will be confiscated in the long run. one matter of contention has been the pair limb picks about

to begin over in sochi, russia, and varying decisions here from the people on whether the ukrainian athletes should attend. as it turns out, they've made a decision they will compete unless and until there is her aggression with, as they put it, from the russians. if, in fact, the russians make any more moves into the east here in ukraine, the pair olympians say they'll come home. the ukrainian olympic team didn't fare all that well in the olympics, but the pair proolympics are much better prepared, and they are very hopeful to go up against russia and beat them. at any rate, we learned today that 30,000 russian troops are now in the crimea. very quietly, i might add, because as you walk around and look around in crimea, you don't see them. they're on the military installations, and the ukrainian newspaper and channel 5 news here reporting that 30,000 russian troops are now in crimea. bill and martha, back to you. martha: shepard, quick question for you.

the word is, and you just mentioned this, that vladimir putin has said he's very angry about the possibility of sanctions and he will retaliate. what's the feeling on the ground about what form that might take? >> well, the feeling on the ground is that that is most likely just bluster. if he chooses to retaliate by moving into further parts of the east of ukraine, that could cause a much wider conflict. and the thinking is that russia is not really for that. the thinking is what russia wants in the end here, plans about which we've been with discussing in crimea and a few more little regions to the east. if you read the russian newspapers today which are, essentially, state newspapers, they speak of three other areas there that russia would like to have. if it moves to that, that would be an enormous escalation and might provoke the european union even more. martha: shepard, thank you very much. we'll see you later. a reminder that shepard's live today from kiev, shepard smith reporting, coming up at 3 p.m. eastern only on fox news and throughout the day. bill: if there are more

headlines, we'll go back to shepard. in the meantime, have we moved to another stage of the standoff despite an hour-long phone call between president obama and vladimir putin late yesterday? lieutenant colonel ralph peters with me now, and good morning to you, colonel. >> good morning, bill. bill: is crimea lost already? >> yes, yes, it's gone. vladimir putin does not have a reverse gear. and if you look at his history in office since his prime minister days in the late '90s, he has never backed down on a single issue. he's always gotten his way. and so now unless putin hits a wall, he's not going to stop. now, the phone calls are really kind of sad that obama has placed to putin. 90 minutes on saturday, an hour yesterday -- bill: that's a long time in the diplomatic world. >> you know what it reminds me of? it reminds me of a poor,

desperate, jilted girlfriend begging the boyfriend to come back. make no mistake, putin's the guy in this relationship. so you have the united states -- the president of the united states, his model of international relations, the idea that negotiations will solve all human problems has exploded in his face, and he's begging putin to come back to the fold. putin's laughing, and the sanctions we're imposing and the visa bans, that will not move putin. i mean, telling a few rich russians they can't dock their yachts in miami is not going to get putin -- bill: you have to think these conversations are trying to bring the boil down a little bit on the water on this deal. but if you're president obama, can you afford to lose crimea? what does that say? and i think henry kissinger was arguing yesterday in "the washington post" crimea is lost, and now you've got to negotiate something in order to get something for it. i don't know if that's a deal on syria or something on iran, but if you're the american

president, what happens if, indeed, that land is gone? >> well, it's a sad commentary on the obama presidency. i mean, a decade ago -- like it or not -- the united states was respected and feared. and feared is important. people in the united states were so mushy, we don't want to be feared. you better be feared. and putin makes sure that his neighbors fear him. and for our president, look, we can survive putin grabbing crimea. but what about the precedent it sets? what about the message it sends to china about the islands in the east china sea? what about the, you know, contested between japan and china. what about the message it sends to iran, to all the would-be dictators? at some point you've got to stand up, and it's really hard because we're not going to fight for crimea, and i do not recommend that we do. but the sanctions, to make them bite, to make them count they've got to be international and truly hard-hitting and unified. and that's not going to happen

because europe feels it has too much to lose. and by the way, as i've been trying to push people to recognize, there is one thing president obama could do to get putin's attention, and that would be just renouncing the one-sided s.t.a.r.t. treaty, the strategic terms reduction treaty that gives putin everything he wanted while putin gives up nothing. that would get putin's attention because putin knows the paradigm from the reagan years when it broke the soviet union. bill: ralph, it's great to get your reaction. we'll talk later today and again next week, okay? ralph peters with us in washington. seven minutes past. martha has more. martha: meanwhile, one of russia's most loyal allies in the middle east is start ising to speak out about the ukraine crisis. syrian's president praising russia's military takeover of crimea as, quote, wise policy. also saying vladimir putin has prevented terrorists from taking power in kiev.

assad's comments coming in a letter form as he sent that to the russian president and reported on syrian state news so, obviously, a very similar situation played out in syria, and he felt he was doing the right thing too. there is this fox news alert this morning as well on the economic front in the united states. we got some new jobs numbers today. here's what they look like, a rise of 175,000 jobs added to payrolls last month, that number's a bit higher than was expected. there's the unloiment rate -- unemployment rate, it's at 6.7%. meanwhile, the real unemployment rate according to the bureau of labor statistics in the united states says it really goes to 12.6% if you count people who are underemployed or people who cannot find a job and have been discouraged and have dropped out of the work force. ed henry joins us now live from the white house. does the administration see any bright spots in these numbers today? >> reporter: martha, they certainly do. it's been awful weather around the country, major snowstorms on

the east coast, etc., and that forced some people into part-time jobs. as you say, the expectations -- this was better than expects in part because of that bad weather, and jason fuhrman this morning telling us, look, this is now 48 straight months of private sector job growth. but if you look at the latest fox news poll and how the public is viewing all of this, look at these numbers from the president. has he mostly succeeded or failed on health care, the economy and jobs, 36% succeeded on health care, 35% on the economy, 33% on jobs. mostly failed, 57% on health care, 56% on the economy, 59% on jobs. it's a familiar refrain. we've seen these jobs numbers before where it suggests the economy's coming back, maybe slower than people want, but people are maybe not feeling it, number one, and number two, they're not giving the president credit. martha: we'll see how they feel, i guess, when it comes to the election. republicans, obviously, are going to take the other perspective on these number, right? >> reporter: oh, no doubt

about it. eric cantor pointing out there's a whole bunch of things the president could be working with republicans on like the keystone pipeline, going on to say, quote: house republicans are focused on helping those unemployed find jobs and protecting working middle class families from administration policies which reduce their hours and wages. that last part, of course, a direct reference to the president's health care law which republicans will continue to frame the midterms around, people going into part-time work and less jobs out there. martha: ed, thank you. we'll see you later. bill: fright anyoning -- frightening sight. a driver who is about to become a hero. plus, there's this -- >> you will sit down and allow me to ask a question, i am a member of the congress of the member of the congress of the unite

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martha: fox news alert, crowds gathering for the second day of the annual conservative political action conference known as cpac. you see colonel oliver north is the speaker at the moment, but texas governor rick perry called out washington last hour on what they should and should not be

doing, in his opinion. take a look from moments ago. >> it is time for washington to focus on the few things the constitution establishes as the federal government's role; defend our country, provide a cogent foreign policy, and what the heck, deliver the mail, preferably on time and on saturdays! [cheers and applause] get out of the health care business! get out of the education business! [cheers and applause] stop hammering industries! let the sleeping giant of american enterprise create prosperity again! [cheers and applause] my fellow conservatives, the future of this nation is upon you, it belongs to you! you have the power to change america, you have the power to speak to our newest hopes and in addition to our age-old dreams! you are the path to the future, a light on a distant shore, and

you represent the renewed hope that america can be great again. [applause] martha: fired up, rick perry this morning. jenny beth martin is president and co-founder of tea party patriots, she will be speaking at cpac tomorrow. what do you think of rick perry there this morning? >> well, he sure got the crowd fired up, and he's talking about the things that people in the tea party movement want to hear; freedom and getting control out of the hands of washington and putting it back into the hands of the american people. martha: he sounds like a guy who may be considering another run. i mean, when you look at these potential candidates there, what's going through your mind as to who could be a good leader? >> well, i think we have a lot of good options, and we're going to have a lot of fun in 2016 as we evaluate the potential options. we've heard from rick perry, and we've also heard from ted cruz, mike lee was here, chris christie was here, so it's going

to be fun in 2016 evaluating all these candidates. martha: do you have a prediction for the straw poll? it's not always a good indicator of who gets the nomination, but who do you predict? >> i don't have a very good crustal ball, so we'll -- crystal ball, so we'll just have to see how it goes, but it's my hope that it's somebody who really champions freedom and wants to see the people more in control of our own lives, as long as we're not harming others or infringing on their rights and not somebody who wants to keep more power many washington d.c. martha: a bunch of stories this morning, a bunch of headlines about how ted cruz may be reigniting the tea party, that the tea party has fallen out of favor or at least out of focus, lost a couple of of interesting primary challenges across the country, and some people have been writing you guys off. what do you think? >> you know, we hear this every single week, every single day. there's one reporter who says something negative about us, and the other time they turn around and say we're the most powerful force in politics.

the fact of matter is five years ago there were only about 50,000 people at this time five years ago talking about the tea party. today there's not a political conversation that happens without mentioning us. martha: yeah. >> clearly, we're making a difference. martha: that's true. it is on everybody's lips, and it's absolutely a factor. and when you look at the argument that's being made by ted cruz, he's saying you have to stick to the principles, you can't compromise. and chris christie's say, look, you don't have a shot at doing anything unless you can win national elections. what do you think about that? >> i think that you can win national elections when you stick to the principles. when you talk about perm freedom, economic freedom and how we're going to have a debt-free future more our children, you can win. [applause] martha: listening to the applause behind you now. in terms of the outlook for the future, you know, you say you've got a lot of good candidates out there. everybody's going to be watching ted cruz, watching chris christie. chris christie, a lot of people thought, was written off. what's your sense of how he's

been received there? >> well, i didn't see his speech yesterday. i know people have been talking about it, and i've certainly heard a lot of talk about ted cruz. so it's very interesting. and, of course, people here really love ted cruz, and people within the tea party movement love him as well. martha: all right. jenny beth martin, you'll be there tomorrow speaking. good to talk to you today. thanks for joining us. >> oh, thanks so much for having me. bill: a lot of storylines down there. martha: yeah, there really are. bill: it was seen as a sign of hope, this cross-shaped beam in the rubble of the world trade center. now it will be part of the 9/11 museum in new york unless an atheist group can stop it. what did a judge just say when they made their case? martha: quite a story. and an ini havation to former secretary of state condoleezza rice to speak at rutgers university's commencement has sparked protests from the faculty. >> this is the left-wing views of, i hope, a minority of the

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martha: fox news alert, we've got a potentially big development here in the irs story, because the irs is now, apparently, telling dave camp, the chairman of the house ways and means committee, that they will turn over the lois lerner e-mails that they have been requesting for such a long time. no word yet on whether or not those e-mails will be redacted. we know that some of documents, many of them that have been handed over to darrell issa's committee have been heavily redacted, they say we turned them over, and there's huge chunks they can't read. we'll see how significant this

development is, but reporting that the irs will turn over more lois lerner e-mails requested by congress. more to come on that. ♪ ♪ bill: martha, thank you. atheists still waging a legal battle to remove a steel beamá, cross from thefrd&a]kyki +p$háo vñ forcefully. rescue workers found the beams only days after the terror attack. seeing them then as a sign of hope. but the head of the atheist group compares the cross to a medical affliction. with megyn, he said this: >> 9/11 was an extremely bad situation, and our plaintiffs went through a lot on that day as many other people did, but for that religious attack to be compounded by religious discrimination by our world trade center memorial, i'm not surprised they're suffering symptoms. bill: father jonathan moore, good morning to you. depression, headaches, anxiety were listed by this group. >> look, i know you want cross

to be there, but can the atheists win? >> i don't think so, because this is a museum of history, of what happened. and they have said, well, you know what? this is not a religioning museum -- religion museum, this is religious history, therefore -- no. what happened happened. and i tell you, if it chriss had run and found a picture of sigmund freud and found great consolation in that and put it up there and came in big this wrongs of -- throngs of people to give thanks to freud's philosophy and his anti-religious beliefs, well, i would want that to be in this museum. but it didn't happen. a history museum is about what happened. whether you like it or not. bill: see what the judge was arguing, too, with the line of questioning during the appeals process week. here is cardinal timothy dolan when asked -- >> i've heard about it. >> what was more important than 9/11 was 9 clash 12 and that we

got up and started living again in this great city. that symbolizes that, and we don't need some group to take that away from be us. >> with hey, bill, you know, i'm all in favor of separation of church and state. but real separation of church and state, not a separation of life, you know, and what people actually believe, you know? and somehow separating these two things and saying any public expression of religion has no place in our society. that's what this group is doing, can that's why they're going to lose -- and that's why they're going to lose. and i know there are so many atheists who are not represented well by a group like this. bill: you don't believe so. >> absolutely not. people are screaming right now through the screen saying that's not me. bill i'll and you have said in the past, and i think this is your position on this case too, what the group wants to do is talk the expression of religion out of our society entirely. >> absolutely. because they're not fighting just for representing aught wrists, and -- atheists, which

they should be represented. for example, i believe in public property if there are a group of jewish people who want the menorah, a group of christians who want a cross, absolutely. respect nondiscrimination. but what they're doing here is trying to wipe name and the voice and the face of god off of our american scene. bill: i've been down there, but it has not opened for the public. >> it's a great place. bill: within a couple of months or so and maybe by this summer at the latest, and i think the museum's going to take a lot of heat from both sides because a lot of people go down there and say there is no sense of religion or what comes after we leave life here. and the cross may be the only thing that represents that. so this is going to be a debate that continues. >> absolutely. but it's worth fighting for. this is america. bill: thank you, father. happy lent, can i say that? >> sure. joyful lent. bill: enjoy the fish today. see you later. here's martha. martha: well, so much for gratitude. a man pulled from his car as

raging flood waters surrounded him. we carried it live on "america's newsroom." he's now possibly suing those people out there who saved his life. does he have a case? plus this -- belle belle so after that spat, darrel issa was called racist by some. is that charge fair? we'll debate it. ♪ ♪ ♪ told ya you could do it. (dad vo) i want her to be safe. so, i taught her what i uld angot her a subaru. irl) piece of cake. ♪

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martha: some conflicting evidence is now emerging in the benghazi investigation. at issue is new information that shows that former cia director david petraeus and his deputy, michael morrell, who's become a real focus in this investigation, both downplayed the skill and the planning behind the mortar attack that killed two american security officers that night. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in d.c. catherine, was in the kind of attack that really could have been done spontaneously or on the fliesome. >> reporter: well, not based on our report, and the republican chairman of the powerful house intelligence committee says the mortar attack on the cia annex was the work of a highly-trained team. five rounds were fired in under a minute from more than a half mile away with three hitting the roof of the annex that was about the size of a basketball court. >> this is exceptionally good

shooting. it was cheerily accurate. they adjusted their -- clearly accurate. they adjusted their fire, so they went a little long, they went a little short, they fired for effect. >> reporter: as this pent gone training video shows, mortar crews have specialized training to prepare the rounds for launch which includes math calculations for distance, direction and altitude. mortars are called indirect fire because this most cases, especially urban environments like benghazi, the crew cannot see the target. given the attack's accuracy, five military officers contacted by fox news concluded the terrorists had preset the location to fire from and also significantly, these mortars were fired in the dead of night, so they did not have a line of sight to the actual target, martha. martha: wow. so what did the former director and his deputy say originally? >> reporter: well, mike morrell, who is also accused by republicans of misleading the senate intelligence committee in the talking points, told congressional investigators, quote: the nature of the attack

suggested they did not involve significant preplanning. and when pressed on the same issue, petraeus also downplayed the planning and necessary skill, stating that the mortars could have been fired from the back of a truck. >> a truck would not permit you, that stable platform necessary to put the rounds down. because every time you fire, the truck shakes. it's not adequate for any sort of indirect fire. >> reporter: we asked general petraeus to further clawfy his assessment, and there was no immediate response. as for morrell, he's consistently stood by his testimony, but many both cases it's now quite evident that it conflicts with the evidence about the skill and the planning that was necessary more that mortar attack which was the third wave of the attack in benghazi. martha: that raises a whole bunch of new questions, doesn't it? catherine, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. martha: we'll see you later. ♪ ♪

bill: that was from earlier in the we, and that story continues today. carol issa, elijiah cummings getting into a heated exchange. issa apparently apologizing, cummings accepting that apology, but the reverend jesse jackson tweeting the following: congressman darrell issa's paver was crude, wrong, racist and mean towards congressman cummings. do you agree? let's talk about that with david webb, sirius xm radio host and fox news contributor, richard fowler is a radio host on "the richard fowler show." happy friday. >> morning, bill. bill: richard, why is race even interjected into or injected, rather, i should say? back and fort between cummings and issa?

why does that even come up? >> well, i think the race card is a little far off on this one. what i will say is that the civility in the united states house of representatives has been totally lost, especially when it comes to the government reform committee. this seems to be a witch hunt by darrell issa that i think is just unbecoming of our united states congress totally speaking and not to mention the fact that this committee has already ruled that not only did they inappropriately target conservative groupses, but they also targeted liberal groups and progressive groups as wellment it's not a political thing here, it's mismanagement, no question, but follow ticks, not at -- politics, not at all. bill: so you would take back that racist word, westbound traffic you? >> i would say it went a little too far. bill: david, whew put that card on the table -- why put that card on the tablesome. >> because old dem goings like jesse jackson who are basically irrelevant in today's dialogue, that's all they have to play. richard likes to deflect from the issue by starting to talk about congress. let's not deflect from the fact that calling someone a racist is

a serious charge. and when you do that, it should be something where there is evidence of true racist behavior. but this is jesse jackson who also three hours after he issued that tweet on his twitter stream -- and anyone can look it up -- said that name calling is not acceptable to someone who made a name -- who called him a name on twitter. it's the hypocrisy. this is where we are. it's not about the dialogue, it's about the race baiters -- bill: david, you can call him rude, you can disagree with him, but why go there? >> absolutely. because that's all he masker bill. this is jesse jackson's stock in trade since he ran for president 30 years ago. >> that's not true, david. that's not true. >> this is what he does. yes, it is. richard, i can -- bill: happening on one second, david. hold your fire. richard, go. >> listen, i would not -- how dare dade ever criticize jesse jackson. when it came time to rehe's the

hostages -- release the hostage, we sent jesse jackson -- >> that's not the issue here or, richard. >> wait a minute now, not to mention the fact that reverend has stood up for civil rights his entire life. he's defended the innocent, the abused -- >> i've got it, richard. you do this when i went to reverend barber -- >> don't mix apples and oranges, david. don't do that. bill: gentlemen, keep it on topic here, all right? hang on one moment. >> okay. my point -- bill: why, again, does this come up? you know, is it just because cummings is black and issa's white? is that the reason? >> absolutely, because, bill, according to jesse jackson we are now supposed to believe that when a white man and black man argue, the white man is a racist. this is what he's putting forward. in that case in this country, we would have a real problem because -- >> wait a second, david. bill: richard, what about that? >> i think david's completely and totally glazing over issue

here. it's not the fact that there was an argument. jesse i jackson's comment was based on the fact not only was there an argument, but representative issa shut off the mic of representative cummings, and this is the first time we've seen this. >> someone shutting off a mic isn't rayist -- isn't racist. >> this is the first time we've seen such upheaval -- bill: hang on, david, there's been other examples of that happening. david, i'll quickly give you the last word there at cpac. go. >> look, we are not to believe, as i sit down here at cpac, that just because you're white and you have an argument with a black person you're a racist. richard deflects jesse jackson assaults with words is it relevant -- is irrelevant and in the end this man needs to walk off the stage. >> all you've got are e deflections, david. bill: gentlemen, i appreciate you coming on. >> thank you, bill. bill: david webb, richard fowler, thanks. martha: news on this story this morning, rutgers university administrators are now standing by their decision to invite

condoleezza rice to speak at the school's imrawtion. graduation. this after a faculty group had caused controversy and gotten a ton of attention from folks out there on twitter and elsewhere when they asked the school to rescind the invitation to condoleezza is rice, the former secretary of state under president george w. bush. they said she should not be honored because of her role in the iraq war. that got karl rove fired up. >> it shows their ignorance, it shows their political bias, it shows their cheap attempt to denigrate a respected leader of our country, the former secretary of state, for their own narrow, ideological or, left-wing views, and shame on them again. shame on the faculty of rut guesser. martha: so the school's board of governors voting to pay rice $35,000 for that speech. it sounds like cooler heads have prevailed in this situation. clearly, the first female african-american secretary of state has quite a bit of experience to we stow on these

graduates -- bestow on these graduates, and it sounds like they turned it around. bill: we hope to get her on and talk about that. martha: absolutely. bill: he nearly drowned, but first responders got there in the nick of time and saved his life. why that man is now suing the people who came to his rescue. martha: can't make it up, right? and she won $2 million playing the lottery, but wait until you hear where she got her lucky numbers. bill: oh.

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to help him and that it took hours more them to show up. anna yum is a former prosecutor and bradford cohen is a criminal defense attorney. welcome to you, anna and radford. >> morning, martha. martha: we all breathed a huge sigh of relief when that man was pulled from that car, and he collapsed in exhaustion on the side of that bank. and some great work by these rescuers. if thaw did ignore pleas -- they did ignore pleas, anna, from his wife and brother with, does he have a case against themsome. >> you know, martha, i think it's going to be a tough case. there's a difference between whether someone can sue and whether someone should sue. can he sue? sure. whether he should or not, well, i think that remains to be seen. he hasn't filed suit yet, he's just preserving his right. and as we know, government entities are typically immune from liability, but there are certain exceptions, and if an exception does exist as mr. ortiz is saying, he must preserve his right within six months of the incident.

i think it's going to be a tough sell to say that his rescuers were negligent. martha: if it weren't for these men, radford, at least it appears on this video and i'm sure a jury would be interested to see this video, he wouldn't have survived most likely. >> exactly. and anna's a lot nicer than i am, because i think this is idiotic. [laughter] you look at this guy who was in a situation where his life was many danger, and these individuals put their lives in danger to save him. now he wants to go back and say they should have done more, they should have rescued me sooner, they should have put warnings up. you know, there are cases where rescuers actually sue individuals who they rescue saying that their negligence put them in a situation -- >> yeah. >> -- they shouldn't have been in. so this guy wants to file a lawsuit, i'd file a counterclaim against him which both of these lawsuits would be idiotic, and if i was a judge, i'd throw them out in about ten seconds. martha: apparently, the man says, look, he isn't sure if he's going to sue, but, hey,

he's got a lot of medical bills to pay, and there's this sentiments that we hear too much of and thanks to people like you guys, everybody thinks they should sue. [laughter] >> that's right. it's almost as though we live in such a litigious society. martha: we do. >> i think mr. ortiz would be were the off claiming that -- better off claiming perhaps the government was negligent in not putting up warning signs of a dangerous road condition as opposed to going after these rescuers. his car was not the only car that went over that roadway. so if he can prove that if the government knew about this dangerous condition, had reasonable time to do something about it and didn't do it, then he might have a stronger cause of action, but i agree with bradford in i think going after thes are cuer, i don't know really how far he's going to go. martha: what do you think about the thinking there? >> i think that's more of an appropriate line, but i also think that people in america should start taking responsibility for their own actions -- martha: there's an idea. >> this guy was driving down the

road, he knew there were flash floods in the area, flooding in the area, he should talk responsibility for it, maybe have someone negotiate the hospital bills on his behalf or something else, try to raise money. but to file a notice, i just don't hi it's proper way to do it. martha: i'm curious, anna, what was said. you know, when you see him collapse on the bank there, if he turned to them and said thank you for saving my life or if he turned to them at that moment and said how come you guys didn't answer our phone call, my wife has been calling for hours, how significant would those conversations be? >> i think it would be significant because it would be talking about his state of mind at the time. if he did say thank you so much, then, of course, the rescuers could use that to their advantage. but he could say i was such a state of duress that that was the first thing that i said, i was so gratified they came, but after thinking about it, it took so long. so those could be used for him or against him depending on the context.

martha: bradford, anna, thanks so much. bill: jenna lee's coming up in a moment here. good morning. jenna: happy friday to you. brand new fox polling to tell you about, this time over obamacare and the midterm elections. also there's new military movements in the ukraine. i know you've been talking quite a bit about that. general scales is here on that. we'll get you caught up on the oscar pistorius murder trial, and the oldest crown known to man. i tried to let them give it to me for a fit, but they weren't into out. >> i'm a seven and three-eighths. >> i think more of a tiara on martha. bill: for sure. martha: i would be willing to try it on. [laughter] bill: thank you, jenna. a teenage skier racing toward the dream at the winter paralympic games. why she says she will never be held back. >> her neon green so that i could see her.

she sticks out from everyone else and trees and things that are potentially harmful. bradford.

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bill: the parato limb picks getting ur way today in sochi, russia, and a new jersey teenager can see only three feet in front of her is trying to make her dreams come true. rick leventhal has her story. >> good morning, bill. the ceremony starts just ten minutes from now, and stacy will only partially see it, just like the mountain on her way down. skiing downhill at speeds of up to 55 miles per hour is hard enough. imagine doing it blind. this is what it looks like through the eyes of 17-year-old skier stacy. >> i have a genetic eye disease

that leaves me really extremely light sensitive. i have a bad visual acuity and am partially color blind. >> reporter: even though the new jersey teenager can only see about 3 feet in front of her, she's competing in the paralympic games in russia with her guide. >> cum skis right in front of me -- kim skis right in front of me, she sticks out from everything else that are potentially harmful. >> reporter: the two communicate over headsets. >> don't worry. >> reporter: kim telling stacy when to swish and when to bump. >> it's just like you putting a blindfold on and taking off in a car, having someone tell you where to turn, just to trust that person implicitly, you know, to keep you safe and keep

you from running into anything, and i friel that's the most important part of my job and also sometimes the scariest part of my job. >> reporter: kim and stacy are go for gold in the slalom and giant slalom race next week. bill: let's hope she brings home the gold. martha: a new blow to obamacare because the results of a new survey show people who need health insurance, who don't have any, are apparently not signing up by big numbers. we'll be right back.

martha: i guess you could say a fortune cookie lived up to its name. a 75-year-old grandma won the lottery by pucking the numbers she -- picking the numbers she found inside the can cookie. bill: come on! martha: yes. emma duval chose the numbers because she read it worked for other people in the past, and it worked for her too.

bill: so she opened a fortune cookie, she played the numbers -- martha: and she won $2 million. bill: man, i want to be your friend. martha: so have a good weekend. bill: yeah, you too. martha: we'll see you later today, you're not off the hook yet. "happening now" starts right now. jenna: and today's top headlines and pad new stories you'll see here first. jon: obamacare still front and center, new questions about whether delaying a key provision could help senate democrats hang on to their majority. gregg: more protests in ukraine and russia as president putin threatens to retaliate for western sanctions other russia's actions in crimea, this as president obamalks on the telephone with mr. putin for more than an hour. and blockbuster testimony in the oscar pistorius murder trial. what his ex-girlfriend just told the court about oscar and guns. it's all "happening now." ♪ ♪