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relation, as former alaska governor sarah palin correctly predicted to widespread scorn back in 2008. >> he promised to heal the planet. stop the rise of the oceans, but the planet's not listening to dr. obama. and the only thing rising in his la-la land is the russian emempire. not, i'm sorry, really, i'm probably being too hard on the president. after all, who could have seen this coming? >> tonight i'll have excerpts from her fiery and comical closing key note address to the conservative political action conference and we'll analyze senator rand paul's overwhelming victory in tonight's cpac straw poll. up front, the tragic destruction the multinational effort under

way right now to locate that malaysian airliner that suddenly disappeared from radar screens about 31 hours ago with 239 passengers and crew on board. because aircraft like this 777 rarely encounter problems witness they hit cruising altitude. over an hour into this flight, it was in cruising altitude, experts believe it was the victim of either a mechanical catastrophe or a criminal act like a him bo that happened so suddenly, it prevented the veteran crew from sending a distress calling. on that question of terrorism, potential terrorism, i'm have the latest on the two passengers on that aircraft that doomed aircraft traveling. who were they? why were they on board? it is daylight now in the south china sea off the coast of vietnam, authorities lost contact with the aircraft on its flight from malaysia to beijing, china. reporter mike cohn is monitoring

the massive international effort. he is live in manila in the philipines, mike, nothing yet, eh? >> reporter: we have not seen anything yet except for that oil slick that the viet namese air force pout out. you have to remember, this is a vast area. the area starts from the gulf of thailand all the way to the south china sea. so it's a huge area about 500 miles wide, where they are searching. >> so who exactly is involved? i know you seventh fleet the guided missile destroyer is engaged. who all is involved? how massive effort to find, you know, some wreckage? because, obviously, the plane is not in the air anymore? sock wreckage near those oil slicks. i want to ask you more about the oil slicks. first of all, who big the effort? who all was involved? >> well, have you 15 ships from the malaysian navy the cambodia navy the viet namese out there.

you have singapore. singapore has a first feed as well. they have the same equipment that the pinckney has and the seventh fleet. so you got this massive search effort, a lot of coordination going on an even as far west as near where i am, the phillipine navy and other u.s. naval assets in the area are also conducting searchles. so it's a very wide extensive search, possibly as many as 30 aircraft more than 25 ships at this point in time just within the primary search area. >> that expands further, china is sending two of its ships as well. so it is a massive effort. we just hope they're all talking to each other. you have to remember, this is also disputed territory out there. you've got china, vietnam and malaysia all fighting over rocks and islands including the philipines they are counterclaiming. you have compounding interest, also, so far, they seem to be working together and tying it in is the united states now the ntsb we know is sending a team.

the fbi also has a team, possible to like into what you mentioned earlier, that two passengers with the fake passports. i have talked to a retired fbi act overnight here in manila, who was in charge of the counterterrorism here in southeast asia. he says the you know passengers using stolen passports is immediately an alarm sign they look at. >> mike, thank you. domenic natale is live in l.a. with the american connections to the doomed aircraft. domenic, three u.s. citizens on board. the u.s. connection is broader than that. tell us. >> yes, it's the issue, the worry of u.s. passengers traveling through acia. we don't know what caused the incident we have in our hands. we do know the area this is happening is, is a strategy towards the united states, an area with china causing problems

there so worries about what is happening to everybody else is troubleing the region. we hear in aviation circles at the moment. here on the ground in america concern for those three that were or are aboard or were aboard the acre, whatever has happened to it. on facebook, a woman identifying herself as a former wife of a man who was listed on that plane, a man called philip woods from texas, 51-years-old, this is what she posted open facebook in terms of how much distressed the news is for those affected by this missing plane. she wrote, dear news media, philip wood was a wonderful man. although, we were no longer married, he is still family. his sons and i just want peace and quiet right now. >> that is my statement. he was 51 as i say. >> are they his children? who are the le? now, he's one, who are the other two? >> he's one the other two are very young kids, two girls, a

girl 4-years-old and a 2-years-old. we have no details about who their parents are or where in the united states they are based. however, a statement from the state department did say the embassies in kuala lumpur and the actions were in touch with the families. . now that's important, geralado, they might be dual nationality, they might be american and icing these passports to have boarded the plane. a lot of clarification further to him co. on top of that, you got the u.s. navy heading to the south coast of thailand, to the area where the plane was last seen on the radar. it's got two helicopters. this is the uss pinckney.

we have two search helicopters they'll be able to deploy, on top of that, out of okinawa, the united states will send a ryan aircraft, which has long range radar, that could help in picking up debris, which, of course, we have not seen so far. back to you. >> thank you so much. there is also that u.s. computer company involved with citizens from other countries. but it's a u.s. company that had many of its employees on board. two veteran pilots and aviation experts join me here in our new york story. i welcome both of you. so you first, kyle, what about this, if it wasn't terrorism, what was it? >> in my opinion, basically, it was terrorism. the airport is constantly communicating, it is broadcasting about every two minutes to the boeing headquarters as well as to the airline headquarters. >> so that happens

automatically? >> automatically. there are virtually every aircraft pennsylvaniaer is on there. there is snow way the aircraft could just disappear. >> i just want to be clear, even if the aircraft was decapacitated in terms of everything out, there would be a signal as long as it still existed, there would be an automatic signal and a computer some place in the boeing headquarters there in the state of washington? >> well, the signal would stop at some point if the airplane was destroyed, obviously, that is transferred to the headquarters as well as boeing headquarters. >> j.p., when you have a plane that loses power, let's just say the engines blow up, it still has wings, it still has a tail. if you were at 30,000 feet, i mean, it takes you a while to hit the ground. i mean you glide down, right, without an engine, isn't that so? >> not so much without an engine out. you will pick up about a 2,000

dissent. so they were at 3500 feet, do the math. in ten or 12 minutes, clyde glideing down, you will be into the ground. >> in ten or 12 minutes, you have plenty of time to send a signal. >> that's the problem. pilots are trained instinctively do two things, drive a plane in normal or mjs the other is to communicate. now no transmissions came out of that aircraft. none. no pilot made a transmission. you are trained to call for assistance. you can communicate with the company, even with the manufacturer, nothing and that implies to me what is being wored now a catastrophe occurred. >> what bowl by that? could it have been a benign fuel explosion that took out that aircraft? >> it's not improbable. but i would say that is outside of my spectrum of possibilities. it's far out. but so would be the incompasstation of the crew due to a loss of pressurization.

so in other words hypoxia is out there. >> so in other words an explosion. >> no, depressurization could be a subtleing compasstation because the crew did not activate the cabin ceiling, in other words the aircraft rose and the cabin rose with the aircraft. remember payne, the golfer? that's what happened to him. >> in a private class. you are saying, came, you are saying terror? >> my gut feeling right now is it is terror. of course. >>. >> we don't know yet. >> there could be a one in a million chance something else. >> in a long show. something bad happened. >> jim hall, former ntsb safety board chairman, you are on the phone there thank you so much. you got the ntsb fellows headed there, along with the fbi, how unusual is it for the fbi to go with the ntsb for an accident investigation? >>. >> it's not unusual at all.

in fact, it's rather common sense, since twa and zoents, but, no now one thing we do know is that until we found the recorders, we really won't know whether this is a criminal investigation or whether it was a mechanic am or malfunction of the aircraft. >> how rare is it to not find the wreckage with all these assets looking for the aircraft? >> well, it's very unfortunate that after five years after air france with the availability of the technology deployable flight recorders, which are used in the united states military, that we still have not at the international level required deployable recorders on these aircraft that fly over the ocean. >> isn't that amazing? on my sailboat, i have an automatic device that if my boat sinks, it floats to the surface

and if i was gone, drowned, whatever, and they don't have it or did not have it on this malaysian airliner, that's absolutely standard, i think. but i got to let you go. jim hall, thank you. thank you gentleman very much. the former new york police commissioner is next on his take of the possibility of terror and much more to go. ..;b

. >> welcome back to live, cpac and russia's escalating coming up. more on the malaysia flight 370. here is craig on those three

mystery passengers. >> devastated loved ones mourn the near certain loss of the 239 passengers and crew, including three americans on board flight 370. >> it's too early to know what's going to happen next, but consulate officials are in touch with families and at the moment, really, we will wait to see what happens. there is a lot of speculation. >> it could be days or weeks before we know the exact cause. the malaysian airlines jet that disappeared in the south coin sea. but disturbing information that at least two of the passengers has raised red flags to many of the international organizations investigating the disappearance. >> every single personal who is on that aircraft is going to be investigated, their background and especially the two individuals who had the stolen passports. >> new jersey commissioner steven rodgers is a former act on the fbi national terrorism task force.

>> the fbi interpol, a number of agencies, law enforcement agencies world wide are going to gather information on everyone connected to that aircraft. i got to tell you. they will be talking to mechanics. they will be talking to the people the passports were stolen from, to ticket counter people involved in the passing the tickets back and forth. >> reporter: the most significant lead the passengers with stolen identification. investigators will look at under surveillance video to start. >> there were two passports stolen. both those passengers in appearance would have to be of angelo dissent. >> yes. >> and taliban lherein lies the question, were they of asian dissent in this footage is very important. there is video footage of them intering, at the ticket counter, video footage of them showing the passport to security personnel. the video will be extremely important as to where the

direction this investigation goes. >> foreign ministry officials in italy and austria confirm are alive. they will play an important role in the investigation. >> the only place they can go right now is to the people they stole the passports from. where did you lose it? where was it stolen? were you in this neighborhood, that neighborhood? were you in a store? and one of those massports were stolen, i think the italian passports was stolen in august of 2013. interpol is involved in this. all the information from the united states and other countries involved will go to interpol. >> what happened from the time flight 370 took off at 12:41 a.m. until it lost contact two hours later is a mystery. >> what about these facial i.d. cameras. can they take someone's face, capture it from under surveillance? can they possibly make a match through computer imaging? >> yes, they could, if they had it in these airports. i would say perhaps the united

states, israel, other countries with high-tech equipment can do that. right now, no one claimed responsibility if, it was, in fact a terrorist attack. here's at thought, who says it had to be at least guys or in that aircraft with a become or some weapon? they will be talking to mechanics, baggage carriers. somebody on the ground if, in fact, it was a bomb, could have placed a become on that aircraft. if it was, then we know somebody else maybe around the world been able to duplicate what these individuals did. get on an acre with fake identification and blow the darn thing up. hopefully again this isn't the case. >> the passenger manifest issued by the airline included two europeans and and italian, who were not, in fact, on the plane. both their passports had been stolen within the past two years when they were visiting thailand. >> that doesn't mean the terrorists took their place, but

it certainly raises red flags to the authorities investigating disappearances. >> no doubt about that. if the stolen passports were used. why wasn't it spotted in malaysia? >> is there a danger to board u.s. planes? that's next. some time? the next time you nt a dvd, don't bother rewinding it. the way i see it, it's t next guy's problem. oh, larry. she thinks i'm crazy. mm-hmm. but would a crazy person save 15% on car insurance

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>> welcome back. i'll have the latest on this escalating invasion by the

russians in ukraine. dozens of trucks, armed soldiers crossing the border, the latest from you crane. right now, though, let's concentrate on that downed aircraft, homeland security nominee joins me here in new york, commissioner, it's always grit to see you. >> leiutenant and operator and senior fellow at the london center for policy research is with us here. he'll be dealing also on this whole idea of the russian invasion of you vein crane shortly. right now it's about the downs malaysian airliner. you work with interpol. interpol maintains this database 39 million travel documents reported lost or stolen in 166 countries. i want to say that again. 39 million travel documents reported lost or stolen in 166 countries. how in the world do they keep track of all this? do you trust interpol? >> i normally trust them.

there are 166 countries is where they collect that da that. something like this should have been flagged. it's kind of odd it wasn't. you had two passports, both stolen in thailand over a two-year period. one was i think in august. it should have been flagged. it should have popped automatically when they put them into a database. >> now, when you board an airline and kuala lumpur is a big city, heading to beijing, coin, the crazy paranoid about visas there, wouldn't someone have run a passport through the database? don't they swipe them? doesn't it come up automatic? zblits automatic. it's no different than you going to jfk here on an international flight, your passport is swiped. if there is a problem, if it was stolen, expireder you were flagged in a flagging on a watch list, you would have been pulled. in this case, both those passports got on the plane so i'm sure that interpol and the

authorities there are going to be looking at the people that, you know, check people into that flight and they're going to go back to the people that the passport was stolen from. >> you are a cop. now has to two passports stolen in thailand, who european guys, the passengers using those stolen passports and the plane that disappears off the radar screen. i pine, what do you think? >> they will go back to the video of the people getting on that aircraft. they'll identify the people. they'll come close to the people that have those passports. it will probably be some caucasian-looking person an australian and italian. that's what they will be looking for. >> i real question is, commissioner, i don't believe in coincidence, generally speaking, that's why as soon as i read that. >> in this case, you also have to think of the aircraft. this is a very stable aircraft. one of the most stable in the

airline industry, number one. number two, whatever happened was catastrophic. it was catastrophic to the front or communications part of the plane, where these guys didn't get any messages out. so between the passports and that, i think we have a problem. >> colonel schaefer, i want to ask you, just generally speaking, catch up. we'll come to you on the other side of the break. right now, what do you smell? >> well, i agree the passport issue needs to be looked at. there is two things to note, first off, passports can be copied and modified a. lot of protective measures are not in place. that's something that's not impossible. >> that is something that somehow a photograph was modified over the time the spasports were you a thentic. the second factor is someone could have move in from the time they check in at the airport to the time you go to the gate. there is efforts in the united states to make sure the person that stops at the front gate, checks through security is the first person that gets on an airplane.

one of your previous guests talk about other persons being able to help either put a bag on or do something, so you have to look deeper at this so there is a lot of way, someone scowled have slipped through those little cracks in the system and gotten on. but right now, as bernie said, you know, it lookings like something catastrophic happened, if something happened rapidly. >> that means, somehow, some way, the system broke down and there is a high likelihood an explosive was placed somewhere on the aircraft, somewhere critical to take it out instantly and very effectively. >> highly likely, did you say that? >> i believe it is, based on the fact that -- >> i love you, i'm no expert. >> highly likely, that makes three of us. russian forces pour nook ukraine, referendum is scheduled for march 16th on whether the crimean region returns to russia. what is our president going to do about it? that and cpac next. scott: appears buster's been busy. man: yeah, scott. i was just about to use the uh... scott: that's a bunch of ground-up paper, lad! .

>> live from america's news headquarters. secretary of state john kerry warning russia's foreign minister that continued military escalation in the ukraine would quote chosen a available space for diplomacy. the white house continuing to put pressure on vladmir putin to pull troops from the region. several warning shots were fired as troops turned away a group of international monitors. a florida judge set bond $1.27 million for a mother accused of driving her minivan with children inside. she made her first court appearance on saturday. she is charge theed with attemptedg for all your latest headlines log on for the fox news.com.

>> i want to defend the president. no, where i just i think sometimes we have to be big enough to stand up, there are a number of people who have criticized him for going to key largo in florida while there is a crisis under way in ukraine. i just want you to know the president spent all of last week proving he was capable of being ineffective. i believe he can be as ineffective in key largo as he was in the white house. >> i'd be laughing if it wasn't so painful.

a corrupt guy skips town, now russian armed forces are pulling into ukraine ahead of the boat in the crimea region, fox correspondent amy kellogg is in the ukrainian capital. >> reporter: a week from tomorrow the people of crimea will have this referendum. it's not clear if everyone will be allowed to vote, forced to vote or there will be a boycott. what is clear is this is happening in a situation of increasing militarization. we do know that international peacekeepers and monitors were not allowed into crimea today for the third day in a row. troops fired warning shots into them. a u.n. observer was literally chased out earlier in the woke. also told, ukrainian border guard airplane came under fire. no one was hurt. it was flying around the border at the time. and there were a lot of military vehicles on the move.

finally, crimea charters demonstrated against what is happening. as ukraine's foreign minister described to fox news, how he was completely caught off guard with the invasion that began just over a week ago. >> i couldn't imagine russian troops, russian leadership can make an order to send troops to the crimea being a friendly neighbor. >> reporter: we have seen some signs of ukrainian militarization, ukrainian troops have really used restraint and held back in the face of all this provocation. we have seen some things of ukrainian milltaries on the move today. we are not sure what it all means. we are watching it closely. >> amy, thanks very much. we got some terrific guests with us this saturday night to shed insight on this scary situation in the ukraine, continuing with former nypd commissioner and

tony schaefer in d.c. we are joined in new york by a ukrainian-born attorney. and ambassador for special political affairs. ambassador holiday if i can start with you, is it too late for diplomacy here? >> no, it's not. obviously putin has tried to change the facts on the ground, be you what the president has the opportunity to do is to push for a political solution and obviously mr. putin will only agree to that if he sees there is going to be an autonomous korea, excuse me, crimea. so for us, what we have to stand up against is this aggression. at the end of the day, will is the possibility of a solution. >> so you are in the business of negotiating and politics rather than war making, but how do you negotiate? if putin says screw you, this

used to be a part of, are i want it. i need it. my fleet is based there. most of the people want me. they speak russian, what are we supposed to do? >> well, unfortunately, it's not an easy answer, what putin probably wants at the end of the day the aer isvile state within a state. to annex force is going to re-ignite a cold war, it will create sanctions opportunities on his economy. what he will do is play a long game west virginia we have to do the again create a situation where there are international observers in crimea. there is going to be a transparent process. right now, it doesn't look like the ground is being prepared for. that. >> leiutenant tony colonel schaefer, this was one of the most cleverly pulled off velvet invasions. he just kept feeding troops in, dozens of convoys reported

toda ships nowlanding, armored vehicles, little by lith little by little, not a shot fired. do you think that this was pre-planned? here's my question, is this premeditated or is putin blinded by the seat of his pants? >> a little of both. he has been trying to have an economic empire. this is a bump in the road. he doesn't understand we are pretty much powerless. president obama whining to him, on phone calls probably encouraged him to move forward with this continued military action. the president is not a confident president will sit back and look at the options, approve the xl pipeline, say, mr. putin, there is things we can do and can not do. one of the things is we have to support democracies, you are doing everything you can to tread on this. we may not win this battle. there will be other battles. we are also in the long game. i think that's what we are lacking in how we approach this.

>> commissioner, you were nominated for homeland, you are in the intelligence business, did we utterly fail to see something here or did it happen so spontaneously that there was nothing to see? >> i agree with tony, this was premeditated. you have to look at putin's history, what he said in the past. this is to me he's reconstituting or trying to resconce substitute the u.s. ussr. as far as the, did we miss it? i think tony would know better than me. but i think the russian, somebody should have seen it or felt it coming. there is an awful lot of activity. a lot of movement that has been going on for the past few weeks if not longer that i think we should have known art. >> arthur geshfield, you visited year after year, you are ukrainian born, how worried are your family members? >> they are extremely concerned

because they know the referendum is coming down. they don't know what side of the cone they will land on. they are very concerned. they can't leave their familys to do business, go on vacation, they don't know if they will come back to their families. they don't know if there will be a missile launch, more troops coming if from all around the world, they think their house is going to be a battleground. >> why haven't the ukrainians not back? >> well, in essence, they have tried to fight back but they don't have any leg to stand on. what can they do now considering that these superpowers now are invading on their territory. >> all right i want to talk more with our military experts on that issue of whether or not this is going to become a shooting war, a civil war in the ukraine. what is nato going to do? our european allie, the president speaking with the leader of france and italy and the united kingdom. we'll have much more on the critical situation in ukraine. they'll go inside cpac. back in a flash.

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>> an international fleet of ships and aircraft searching for whatever is left of malaysian airlines flight 370 which disappeared about two hours ago in the skies over vietnam. we are monitoring this huge operation. we are getting word not yet confirm the fbi sent a team along with the ntsb. i want to check, remember this now. you have a red eye flight. vanishs at cruising altitude, clear skies, no distress signal. no malfunction but we'll definitely be

following through stay tuned to fox news for the latest. continuing now with that troubling news from you crane that hundreds of russian military vehicles and personnel arriving all day by land and by sea, my guest, former nypd commissioner bernie car rick. former cia operator leiutenant gerald schaefer. arthur geshfeld. in d.c., u.n. ambassador to the eun unfor political affairs, stewart holiday. ambassador holiday, do you think that the united states dropped the ball here, diplomatic? you know, krercolonel crew descd it as whining from president obama to president putin, do you see it in that regard? >> i think kissinger said it best, when a head of state says to a head of state, have you to have a plan the telephone

diplomacy is good at the foreign minister level to keep the lines, the channels of communication opened. but i would hope that what the president would do would be drawing a line, a very clear line and indicating what the costs are to our relationship in real terms, economic terms, if these troops aren't withdrawn and there isn't a political plan. >> colonel shafer. in terms of what the united states can do, you know, aside from diplomacy, i would not send the sixth fleet or major elements of the united states navy into the black sea, it's a rub right there. you can't get in or out of it you have the tiny choke points there. sending planes to poland. things of that nature. i got for the problem. militarily, is there a solution. look at russia looming over the ukraine there. they got 150,000 troops on the border. that's more troops than we have

in iraq, tell me, what would you do? >> i think nothing. president putin was there to watch the union collapse of overuse of military force and 17% of the ethnic population of the ukraine is russian. 16% of the ethnic population is russian. he may well have to let crimea go to the russians. he'll use the referendum. you point out he is doing the in since wa insinuation of troops. let put-in overplay his hand. russians did that during the occupation of afghanistan. took a few years. they lost, lost badly. say thing will happen. putin is not stupid. out for economic recovery. establishing the russian empire. not through military f

economic influence. we need to look at the long game. we can make his life miserable. you point out. going through the straits. into the med ter rare iiterrane. >> i say squeeze it where the sun don't shine economically. you family worried they will lose part of their country to russia? >> absolutely. my family in particular, we emgreated 35 years ago. i have friend and family there now. who feel they don't know where they stand. they really do not know. i think it is out of their control. putin has got an jenn. -- putin has got an agenda. >> you want him to go the nose to nose with putin. >> he wants to be a tough guy. stop already. >> on the note, ended, governor sarah palin giving the mainstream media a giant "i told

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republican party, but the future, the future of the entire country. >> senator rand paul impressive at the convention. he overwhelmingly won the straw poll. he got 31%. more than three times, or all most three times what, what ted cruz, the texas senator got. ben carson, neurosurgeon, made a pretty good speech too. barn burner there. in third place. 9%. chris christie who wasn't invited in 2012. he came, wounded by bridge gate. he got, got 8%. and so forth. down the line. two great guests now to help us put all this in perspective. eric eriksson, editor-in-chief of red state.com. and jennifer taylor campaign editor for the hill. welcome both of you. now, jessica, we know who within the straw poll, who won the hearts and minds of the, the young conservatives there at the convention. >> rand paul really did too. these types of things are his

bread and butter. his father set the pathway. did great. his speech was by far the best, well received of the main speakers. some other people i was impressed by. rick perry didn't do as well in the straw poll. a strong speech, well received on friday morning. 9:00 a.m. when very few people were in there. ted cruz. he, he, kicked off the whole event on thursday. you saw his numbers. certainly skyrocket. from where he placed last year. >> okay. now, eric, you have a situation here, where for the first time, i really looked at senator paul. i talked to him a lot on the radio. i, i think i have gotten close to him. i never really figured him for a formidable candidate before the convention. how do you see it? >> well, it will be very interesting to see huh ow he shs up national security. security agency big issues. the crowd loved him. not sure paul has not won the straw poll in five years or so. before him his dad winning

straut poll. -- the straw poll. ironically. one of the speeches everyone was talking about. at dinner where they were talking about it. rick perry's speech. i would never have predicted that. >> yet, jessica, rick perry for all the vibe he got from the speech. you know finished so low down on that list. and it is hard for people to forget him clubbing at the last, republican primary debates isn't it? one name, marco rubio. fell to 7th in this year. barely registered at all. shows how much support he has lost with the grassroots conservative base for support for comprehensive immigration reform. >> yet, eric, i don't think the republicans can win. if they don't embrace some type of immigration reform. what say you, last word? >> yeah, i think they're going

to have how to come up with something. don't think they're going to come up with what marco rubio came up with. >> rubio is out then there? >> no, i think he can recover. forgotten by 2016. got to do something. >> eric, thank you. jessica, thank you. thank you for joining us. stay tuned to fox news for the latest on the downed airliner. tonight on "red eye." coming up would soccer be watchable if you force aid city to play at once. what if you could use your hand? what if you could get away with murder. we'll show you one town that had the guts to find out. plus how long does it take vice president biden on average to finish a deep dish pizza. >> 3.4 second. think about that for a minute. >> are baby red squirrels ltd most adorable when drinking milk, sleeping or froiblgi ifro with friends. our panel settles it next. none of the stories on red eye. >> now