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more on the story as we get it here at fox news. i'm harris faulkner, now back to "justice" with judge jeanine. >> hello, welcome to "justice." i'm jeanine pirro, which presidential hopeful in cpac stole the show and why bolton told cpac pauk paub is the country's biggest security crisis. first to my open. any first-year law student understands a contract is an agreement, a meeting of the minds between the parties. if fraud is underlying the contract, it is nul and void, invalidated. not enforced. the question.
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did barak obama lie his way into the white house and, if so, has a fraud been committed against you? and does it even matter? it was during a very heated campaign in 2012 that president obama and his fans sold us that bill of goods about a flash mob and a hateful video, posing a massacre for americans and the president's appointees in benghazi ambassador chris stevens. that was a lie and they knew it was a lie. then another lie, obamacare. the president swears we can keep our doctors and our health care plans if we like them. the fraud continued when obama, president obama, belittled then candidate mitt romney. >> when you were asked, what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing america. you said russia. not kwaechltd you said russia. in the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back, because the cold war has
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been over for 20 years. >> wait a minute. first of all, are you saying he should have said it was al qaeda? how could it be since you said, yourself, you decimated them with the killing of that old geezer osama bin laden. but what's that now maybe mitt romney was right? >> you mentioned the navy, for example, and that we had fewer ships than we did in 1916. well, governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonnets, because the nature of our military is changed. we have these kings things called aircraft carriers, where planes land on them. we have ships that go under water, nuclear submarines, so the question is not a game of battleship, where we're counting ships, the case is what are our liabilitys? >> you didn't lie to us, you proved your complete lack of knowledge on the world stage, horses and bayonnets, maybe mitt wasn't so far off.
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you are looking to take us back to pre-world wore ii capabilities. the truth, your mission is to minimize united states exceptionalism on the world stage. you unilaterally take down the missile defense system in europe with nothing in return from putin and when you never avenged the deaths of americans in benghazi, your message was clear, let's just move on. it's embarrassing to watch you on the world stage as putin outsmarts you at every turn. you angle for a fight with him and threatenle with coifs, he still does whatever he wants. you talk about legal interpretations. >> i know president putin seems to have a different set of lawyers, making a different set of interpretations, but i don't think that's fooling anybody. >> i'll tell you who it looks like who got fooled here, while you were on the phone, putin was
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moving tanks into crimea, as secretary of state john kerry says there are no russian troops in ukraine. are you guysind, too? and while you talk sanctions, putin says he's going to turn off the oil. >> that ought to do wonders for the price. here's the problem, president putin has a vision of russian exceptionalism and you trash american exceptionalism. you don't believe that we americans are exceptional? and day-by-day, you do everything in your power to make sure that we are not. so does the truth matter? some people don't think it does. . >> i also can issue a warning, if our movement is primarily anti--obama, we will, in fact, reduce the number of victories we should win this fall. if we spend extra years being primarily anti-hillary, we will virtually guarantee her
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election. >> really, newt, not to be negative. were you around when george bush was president and the dems did a daily dance on his head when someone lies to you, what do you do? let it go? i got news for you, we're not willing to let the lies go. john bolton, though, got it right at cpac. >> we meet in a time of true national security crisis, indeed, many crises, but our biggest national security crisis is barak obama. >> and here's rick perry. >> we don't have to accept recent history. we just need to change the presidency. it's not too late for america to lead in the world, but it starts by leading at home. >> it is too late for you, mr. president, i'm sure you've heard that those who failed to learn the lessons of history are
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doomed to repeat it. appeasement does not work. making nice does not work. what works is piazza through strength. >> indeed the united states will stand with the internationalú:c communityxg$+qñ affirming that there will be costs for any military intervention in ukraine. >> and as the world turns, russia reclaims more and more 3z territory. news flash, mr. president, the international community is not with you. so where's the u.n. for all your big talk? where is nato for all your big talk? i have an idea, why don't you just put your sticks down andcs come home from key largo and do something for us? mr. president, you lied to get here. you have been outsmarted, outclassed and outpunched by a kgb tough guy and as far as i'm concerned, this contract is nul
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and void. and that's my open. coming up, he told cpac our country's biggest national security crisis is none other than the guy who lives in the big white house, ambassador john bolt isn't next. and vote in tonight's instant poll, cpac straw polls results are in. we will reveal the winner after the break.
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my biggest person said president obama is the national security crisis we are facing right now, former u.n. ambassador and fox news contributor john bolton joins us this evening. good evening, ambassador. >> good morning, judge, glad to be with you. good evening. >> it's been a long week for you. i know, for both of us. ambassador, you say the president is the biggest national security crisis. why? >> well, in addition to all the mistakes he's made in policy after policy, the fundamental problem is his view of america's place in the world. he thinks america is too strong, too assertive, we benefitted too much from our power and if the world and america would be safer if we were a declining power more inward looking. i think that's 180 degrees the opposite of reality, as you said in your open, ronald reagan believed in a policy of peace through strength. that's a way to protect american interest and avoid hostilities. i think obama's weakness is what
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turns out to be provocative and really endangers us going forward. >> all right. and, you know, when you in your speech this week at cpac and you really fired them up. i mean, a tremendous applause for what you said. your, most of your speech had to do with the reality of where we are on the world stage today and how the rest of the world is looking at us. why don't you just give us an idea of the points that you use to reference your final conclusion we're leading from behind? >> well, i think if you look at region after region around the world, america and its interests, it's friends and allies are in retreat and our adversaries are advanceing. the situation in ukraine is a case study of how to manage an assertive aggressived a very
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li adversary like russia and territorial claims that will turn waters into a chinese lake. we still have the problem of the global war on terrorism as the director of national intelligence, obama's own appointee said a couple weeks ago, the level of the terrorist threat was just what it was before 9-11. i think the worst is the ambassador chris stevens and three others in bean e benghazi on september 11th it's still unavenged by this president. when you look at that weakness and failure, it emboldens our adversaries. it says, the worst is a president we can use for the our own advantage, we will take advantage of and they will do it. >> ambassador, when the president says i want to take down the army to pre-world war ii levels, with would i want to do is, you know, he starts his
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first term apologizing, basically, doing an apology to us starting in cairo. i mean, what do you think his motivation is? what do you we gain by this? especially, i will add one more premise, the takedown of the missile system in europe in exchange for nothing from putin who now it seems, we are now in a cold war? >> yeah. well, i think the president believes that american strength is provocative, that our ability to influence events actually causes more instability and insecurity in the world than preventing it and i think that's just basically wrong. it's american weakness that's provocative. be you the president's view is that a weaker america will actually be safer for ourselves and everybody else is what motivates him. i'm not a shrink. i don't know what his psychologist is. i think we learned this at
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columbia and harvard law school. i think it's ideological combined with grossen attention to international threads to our country. the net effect seems to me to be unquestionable the states. the adversaries, whether they're states, terrorists, over the remaining year of his term are going to be eager to act in theirself interests before he leaves office. >> as we are seeing with putin. i mean, he believes in russian exceptionalism. it sounds like ukraine, crimea, are going to be back in, what was the old soviet union, now russia. i mean, does he stop with crimea, putin? >> well, i think putin still thinks he can get endemini, whether it's the partition, crimea, the larger partition, the west and east and southern ukraine would be his fallback position as b. i think putin really wants sway over the government of the whole country.
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ukraine is the biggest prize in the former soviet union. putin has already made it clear back when he was president the first time that he expects to see russia basically dominate in that space. and i think the lesson for everybody else, the baltics, the central asian republics, is if putin can prevail in ukraine, he can prevail wherever he wants. >> that sets the stage for what comes next. i think china watches what happens and says if putin can do it there, we can do it in the south china sea, this will have a cascading effect on american interests around the world. >> a quick question, ambassador, a lot of talk at x pack, do you have any special plans for 2016? >> not for 2016 yet. i want to see more house and senate members who believe in a strong american national security. i set up a pac and a super pac to help make that happen. that's my focus now. >> ambassador bolton, thanks, for being with us this morning. >> thank you, judge. coming up, dr. ben
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>> earlier today, dr. ben carson gave an impassioned speak speech at cpac. take a look. >> we have got to get back to the same mentality americans had in the pre-revolutionary days. they got together with associates and talked about what kind of america do we want to have? what do we want to pass on to our children? they encouraged themselves, that's how a bunch of red-tagging militiamen defeated the powerful army in the world at that time. you need to talk to people, everybody you know, have a discussion. don't let the left shut you up. everybody needs to talk about what we are doing and what we
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want to have as a nation, encourage each other. >> people say, don't you miss medicine? well, i missed what medicine used to be. i don't miss what it has become but i do miss the patients, but the good thing is i have operated on so many thousands of patients, there is virtually nowhere i go i don't get to see some of them. it acts as a wonderful thing to get involved in people's lives, the most important thing they have is their health care and that is the reason that we need to fight to make sure that that stays in their hands and not in the hands of the government. >> what happens with obamacare? we, the american people, have with that program shifted the power that was given to us by the constitution and by the founders to the government as the most massive shift of power
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in america that has ever occurred. that's why we need to redo it. we need to put the power back in the hands of the people and we need to make sure we keep it there. >> with me now democrat and strategist joe evening, gentleman joe, i'll start with you, dr. carson compared conservatives to revolutionary war heroes coming together to make america better. should liberals be worried? >> i mean, look, i think it was a great speech. he obviously did well there. i think he stopped a lot of people with the strength that he had in terms of the straw vote. but i think it's way to early to be worried about him or his speech if you are on the democratic side. >> well, tony, you were down at cpac this week. there was a lot of talk about a lot of those speakers. even for joe to come out and say
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that it was a good speech by dr. carson is kind of interesting and that it seems that there were a lot of interesting things like chris christie being well received. let me go to a more general question with you. was there more talk of cpac not being conservative enough? >> i think cpac this year showed conservatives are tired of losing. something dr. carson said shocked a lot of people, especially towards the end of his speech, he said in a primary situation, you call each other rhinos and tea backers, that's fine. once that primary is over, support whoever won. we are all beginning to realize i believe in order to govern you have to get elected. now, dr. carson is as strong and powerful not the lowest among them. they use the embodyment democrats say no longer exists. he said i wasn't a part of the 47%, i wasn't the lowest 1%.
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his racks-to-riching tale the tale of american injen newty and opportunity began his speech, judge, by saying he is a part of the american dream. this is the land of dreams and opportunities. >> my question, tony, apparently, cpac invited the atheists to participate a. lot of, with the conservatives, they're very hard line to the right. and it seems is that with chris christie being invited there and john cornyn and there was some whispering in the audience like this is too much. i'm go to joe, dr. carson says we need to fight obamacare with the mid-term elections coming up, do you see democrats distancing themselves from this controversial law? >> look, democrats are supported are talking about working to fix it. they know it's less popular. no, no, they may know, they know it's going to be a problem for democrats in november.
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no denying that. but if that will be one issue, one part of the spectrum, there will be other issues to talk about. i thought ben carson, i thought the doctor actually put himself on the map and i don't think, i think a lot of people at cpac, you know, there is a draft, people talked about drafting them, didn't think he was necessarily interested. i think his speech today said he was. i think he put himself on the map. i think, look, there is tension on the republican party about pragmatism vs. principle. that fight has been going on, it's cost in the senate the last two cycles, their ability to win the senate. they may do it the same this year maybe they'll come together and get more pragmatic. we don't know. >> i think we were at points this year divide. we are realizing our strength comes from the diversity of opinions. that's what you saw, judge the party understands we have to
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employees all from china and malaysia were on that flight. i'm harris faulkner, now back to "justice" with judge jeanine. [ music playing ] >> welcome back to "justice" former alaska governor sarah palen ends the cpac festivities today with a bang. her speech and inspiring call to action for all conservatives. take a listen. >> hope and change, yes, we can. it became, no, you can't. no, you can't log onto the website. no, you can't keep your health care. no, you can't make a phone call without michelle obama knowing, this is the third time this week you dialed pizza hut delivery.
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yes, something did happen. we became a wiser republican a year ago. americans know now what the giants of our movement have always told us. people like freedman and reagan and margaret thatcher, we said, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch. there is no free birth control. there is no free phone. there is no free doctor visits. there's no free frito's. there is no free ride. someone pays. someone always pays. and if you don't know who that someone is, it's probably you. ted cruz, he had a clever way of doing its, too.
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dr. zeuss, who'd have thunk? who'd have thumpg? thunk? maybe i'll ad lib. there he was reading it on the floor of the senate and through air waves, he was telling his kids i'm thinking of you. thinking of all our kids and i have five kids i have five kids, so reading green eggs and ham over all those years to each one, you totally have it memorized, especially by the time trig was born, so i had to spice it up a bit and little trig, lucky little fella, his bedtime story, now it goes something like this. i do not like this uncle sam, i do not like his health care
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i do not like this spending spree. we're smart. we know there's nothing free. i do not like reporter's smug replies within i complain about their lies. i do not like this kind of hope. and we won't take it, nope, nope, nope. >> that was sarah palen at cpac. back with me joe trippi, tony saev. what did you think of sarah palen's free ride and taxpayers footing the bill? >> cpac, she is putting the red meat out there. you know the really interesting thing i found about her speech, she was just as tough on the
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republican establishment. there was a whole rift she did about, do you remember tent 10? you didn't feel that, the tea party fills that victory, not the establishment. and then sort of challenged the establishment again. >> that tension is still very real within the party and it is something that has to get worked out for them to win in 2016. it can get worked out for 2014 and 2016. >> tony, what do you think of that? >> i think sarah palin will be one of the best assets. i would put her score card up against president obama. we heard 30% of americans say they would only be inclined to sign, two-thirds said it wouldn't make a difference. sarah palin will help the left in alaska, it's meaningful, it's a mistake to evaluate her from the national candidate herself. she is much bigger than that. she's a moving politician who
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speaks to a whole swath of this country. people in the obama administration call them bitter cleaners. >> let's talk about the straw poll results. what i found last year marco rubio was 2nd with 22%, this year he is 2nd or 3rd from the bottom. what do you think the cause of that is? >> marco rubio hurt himself in the eyes of taking a leadership reform. >> it's so it's immigration. i'll go to you, joe, rand paul two years in a row, number one at cpac. is he going to be the candidate in 2016? >> look, i think. i think again the size of his previous was strong, some 31% i think. >> yes. >> no one was really close to him after. that so, look, i think it was a strong showing for him. he, rubio and chris christie are
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three of the people i'd be the most worried about as a democratic strategist of all those who spoke today. again, chris christie, we don't foe if he will be able to come back. although he had a great. >> he had a great reception. >> go ahead, tony. >> joe is very aastute and adroit, i will tell you what started at cpac is someone people have to worry about. he wasn't warmly received, he was enthusiastically received. if you look at the numbers, judge, ted cruz and chris christie almost got the same number of votes in the straw poll. >> let me ask you this, when you have someone like sarah palin, joe admits this, she is very strong and even hard on the republican party within it doesn't come as far right. chris christie is going to run into problems sarah palin would endorse a chris kies tee? >> i think she will enforce the republican nominee, whether or
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not in a primary, i wouldn't make that bet. governor chris christie is offering conservatives an opportunity to see if you elect republican governors if states like wisconsin, which are liberal states, michigan, ohio, florida, new jersey and people see conservative principles in action become policy, they like them. >> that is the kind of model i think he runs on in 2016. >> who will be the democratic candidate in 2016? >> look, if hillary clinton goes, it doesn't look like there will be anybody stepping up to challenge her, although there are good people in the party. i don't see them making a run. >> all right. thanks, so much, gentleman. and coming up, a malaysia airlines flight disappears without a trace. is terrorism to blame? we'll talk about that next. and vote in tonight's instant poll. who do you
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>> a malaysia airlines flight from kuala lumpur to beijing disappears without a trace. officials say two people on board that flight were using fault identitys. so is this the work of al qaeda? retired leiutenant general and a commander who shipped the uss cole's flight was attacked by terrorists in 2000.
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i will go to mack and ernie first, we got the plane which apparently this jet has very few, if any, problems, that are notable that literally disappears off the radar. what do you think happened? >> well, it had to be catastrophic, judge, because as i'm talking to you right now. the pilot and co-pilot could have put out a mayday call in the blind on guard channel, but we have no evidence that that happened. so it means it was instantaneously catastrophic. the only thing i can think that that could be would be a bomb. now, it's speculation. i am the first to tell you that. it's extremely important that we get the debris field and we get the right u.s. assets there to find that debris field. >> let me ask you this, general, i don't mean to interrupt.
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we say a debris field, we know an oil slick. we don't know how big the debris field is, do we? >> no, we don't. we don't know if that is the oil slick from the aircraft. they'll have to do a fuel sample. so if it was a bomb the debris field would be spread out over miles, because the airplane, as i recall, is up to 35,000 feet. >> exactly. >> it would floated down, so you'd see lots of pieces over probably a 20 square mile area. >> i'll go to you commander, talk of al qaeda, terrorism, given the fact that there were two people using fault identitys, what i find curious, one guy was from austria, the other from italy. but they had both been in thailand where their passports were stolen. what does that conjure up in your mind? >> well, immediately, i think you are seeing indications of an al qaeda plot where they could
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be operating in there. there must have been clear indicators elsewhere. because we already dispatched an fbi team to malaysia to coordinate activities to figure out what may have brought this plane down. we clearly also have benefit for the uss pygmy and guided missile destroyer operating in the south china sea that's heading right towards that debris field that the general spoke about. because the sooner we can get that on scene, the sooner we will be able to find some of that debris, very quickly determine whether it came from an aircraft, analyze the fuel or get samples to do analysis on, then one of the great things that ships bring is a command and control platform to control the large number of assets that will begin to flow into that area in an attempt to narrow down the debris field and hopefully find that aircraft, which we can only hope stays majorly intact like twa 800 did.
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>> do we know the fbi is on the scene? do we know that? okay. we're not really sure about that. but, you know what we do know is that there is, there were three americans on the plane, that there was employees from an american company. i mean, general, can we draw any conclusions from this. >> i don't think so, judge. i think it's still to early and we've got to analyze that. so i don't think we ought to jump off to speculation. but we ought to be very concerned about those two individuals that were on, that were on stolen passports. and that's what is causing the speculation, i think, that kirk and i are ryaning in that direction. malaysia is a million country. it's mostly moderates. but you never know what the purpose behind this was. and if you had two suicide
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bombers that somehow got bombs on board and detonated them. >> i'm curious. >> that could be a major problem. >> quickly before we wrap up, do we know how tight security is in getting on planes in malaysia and kuala lumpur? >> i don't. >> do you? >> judge, i don't either. i will tell you dovetailing off what the commander said, don't forget the attack on uss cole and 9-11 took place in malaysia with high level operatives. clearly, that region does have an active net where terrorists could be using it. >> speculation at this point. clearly we have indicators pointing in that direction. >> all right. thanks, gentleman, for being with us this evening. >> thanks, judge. all right, coming up, could the ukrainian president's heart attack be a cover for putin making him disappear? this is our last chance to vote
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does this heart attack sound fishy to you? >> all i can say, we don't really have the facts is this is very convenient for mr. putin. as you pointed out, yanukovych in a speech last week said there should be no foreign intervention and troops and no part of ukraine should succeed. mr. putin's government but pout a statement three or four days ago in the wake of substantial international criticism about the invasion that yanukovych asked troops to be sent in. the quote/unquote he had a heart attack is very convenient for the cell len. >> we know, ambassador, yanukovych went to russia, he fled ukraine to go to russia. >> right, for safe keeping. it is not clear that will turn out so well for him. >> yes. and putin you know eastern being angry for yanukovych contradicting him, what does he stand on the playing field, it doesn't sound like they want him back in ukraine.
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>> yanukovych is not an asset anymore for the kremlin t. fact that yanukovych just a week ago said there should be no foreign troops in ukraine and just a few days ago russian troops went in and they claimed yanukovych estimate means he is an embarrassment to putin. >> interesting. you don't expect to hear from yanukovych any time soon, right? >> probably not. i'm afraid to say. >> this might be the first action we have seen since the cold war. what can we expect? you were the ambassador in ukraine as well as i think uzbekistan? >> that's right. >> is this a renewal of the cold war and what can we expect in the next few weeks? >> well, mr. putin seems bound and determined to hold on to crimea. the ballot, which was issued today for the referendum which will decide this has only two choice, independence from you crane is choice one, annexation by russia is choice two. so this is not a real referendum. because the people of ukraine
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are not given the opportunity to vote to stay in ukraine. it's worth remembering that in 1991, a majority of people in crimea, just like a large majority of people in ukraine, voted to be independent from russia. so mr. putin wants to have a farce of a referendum. >> ambassador, what he does, he will send russians to some of these countries and say he has to go in there and protect them? >> that's correct. even in the east of ukraine, he claims there are many people who want to be a part of russia, there aren't enough actual ukrainian citizens who want that. so he has to invest in russians to have fake demonstrators. >> all right. ambassador, thanks so much for being with us this evening. >> thank you. now for our instra poll results. we asked you who you wanted to run for president in scent 16. rand paul, ted cruz vp. not a bad idea. nora, mitt romney the election was stolen from him by dishonesty. laura, were you watching my open
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