dazzling pictures of massive piles of broken ice and looks like frozen sculptures and has become a tourist attraction with the people flocking to the lack. >> it is like sunset in summer as well. >> it feels like an umbrella drink on the beach. >> america nows headquarters starts right now. could the airlines flight 370 floun remote? the theories taking a new turn. i am alisyn camerota. >> the wall street journal said the jet could have been flown for hours as far as india or pakistan or over the araban sea. leading our coverage this hour, cathrein. >> the authorities were kick to dismiss the report carried in the wall street journal that

u.s. investigator believes that the jet now for several hours because it transmitted data to the jet airlines. >> the last transmission of the aircraft was 01.7 and indicated everything is normal. boeing has the data and those reports are inaccurate. >> the authorities said they sent up surveillance aircraft to send for possible wreckage first identified on a chinese website. but they found nothing and that the chinese embassy characterizes the web posting as a mistake. what is intriguing about the images is that the reported dimensions of the three objects are consistent with the wing and horizontal stabilizer in the verteccal fin in the 777's tail.

it is unlikely you will find large wreckage beyond a week. >> the airplane is down and the longer it is down less likely we'll find anything floating. five days is a good day, but now in the sixth day and depending on the currents and all of that, we don't know anything that would float. >> if we had a situation where the flight descent greated from a highality to youed only thing intact would be the wennings and tail section. as the investigators point out, after a week, they are unlikely to continue floating and the identifying the crash site diminishes still. >> cathrein harris from washington. we'll talk to a pilot and an aviation expert and floun the

route and his depth of knowledge is intense. we'll bring him up in a matter of moments on hq. >> new concerns about obama care, america's top health plans say that one in five of the folks who signed up have yet to pay the first premium and without that payment they have no coverage. steve moore with the heritage founding a and great to see you. >> hi, alisyn. according to the report, 4.2 million people signed up, but the insurance industry said that about 20 percent of those have not yet paid. and so those shpt count. now why doesn't the white house have those numbers that they are releasing and why are they going by a different set of numbers. nalisyn, they do have the numbers. industry officials told the white house that the numbers are smaller than what is reported to

the american public. do the math here, alisyn. we were going to have 7 million new americans signed up. and the white house said maybe not 7 million but 6 million. they are reporting over 4 million and new numbers are correct and people in the industry signing up people for the health insurance exchaefrjs, it is closer to 3 million people and that is a long-distance from the 7 million promised. and the white house can't use the insurance numbers because they are not fast checked and the numbers keep fluxating and they are not comprehensive and they are not telling us how many people have actually paid. do you buy that? >> there may be glimmers of truth in that. but where else will you get the data from? from the shrps companies that the people are enrolling with.

i believe the insurance numbers. they tonight have a reason to make up or lie about the numbers. what is interesting that the white house is down playing this and even kind of concealing the numbers that are coming in from the insurance industry. it is confusing, why wouldn't the white house have these important numbers? such as how many people signed up and paid and how many people were previously uninsured. these seem like important numbers. and the white house said they are not collecting that data? >> i think it is a public relations problem for the white house. it has been a public relations since the beginning and the website was rolled out and i happen to it think they don't want to put out the numbers and like the old saying, you don't want to know the truth. it is important for people to realize that someone signs up for insurance policy and they

don't pay the premium they are not signed up for insurance. everyone knows that. >> and they are not covered. that is an important reminder and people think they may be covered. >> and let me mention one other quick thing. and the need for some kind of oversight auditor and independent to oversee the numbers and that's why the auditor and watch dog is necessary. and it so manies like it is great to have the source getting out the information. >> and thank you. >> and next hour, president obama will be using the pen to bypass congress and ordering new rules for millions of americans. they are calling the execute you have action an abuse of power. chris, good day to you. what is behind the move and how does the white house defend this? >> saying that the president is

very concerned about income inequality. and clearly made a watch word of this year whether it is the minimum wage or unemployment insurance extension of the benefits, and now with overtime. on the other hand, i don't think it is unfair to say it is politics and in particular with the special election in florida this week. the president is going to have a tough time having democrats campaign on obama care and successes of obama care or fix it or don't end it. and so he's pushing as he did in 2012 the idea of income inequality and they are looking out for the middle-class and the republicans are concerned about the wealthy. >> i think speaker boehner said but the out. that was the summery of your

action. >> the abuse of power is not legitimate. in fact george w. bush took steps to increase overtime rules and lifted the threshold and there pie making more people eligible for overtime. it is something that presidents can do through their labor department but it has a political component this year. >> you mentioned the florida race and listen to rudy guiliani about what appears to be a greater republican message. >> obama care is taking away my freedom. it is attacking away my ability to make choices. that goes deeper than just health care and getting to a spiritual issue and issue in which americans define themselves and add to that all of the big government of obama, it is not just an issue. but a symbol of what is wrong

with the administration. >> he talked about the nsa, something he supports by the way. but the regulations and the taxes and the health care, and now you have this big long list of political messes that republicans will start using now to say, you know, government is too involved in your life. the administration has gone overboard. and for that reason. you need to pull it back. do you so that selling going into november? >> it is interesting. the republicans very strongly feel that and it was interesting in his initial reaction to the results of the florida election. speaker boehner said the key issue was the economy. no, people think the co issue is obama care. but you will see republicans like rudy guiliani and john boehner that obama care is the over regowls of the private sector and comimpeding the

companies and getting back to the but the out remark. and in a lot of cases, certainly the argument would be all of the restrictions and employer man date, companies will not hire as many people and have them on part- time work rather than full- time work. >> obama care is not just about health care. >> and so obama care would be the symbol of the message, but yet, you know falling out of a lot of that will be all of the other government programs, and the regulations and the taxes and the nsa. and so they are going to obviously go out and make the case that this government is too big and you do something about it in the ball on the box. >> absolutely. that is the argument that republicans are making and you have a big government and they know best and big brother solution on the part of the democrats and the republicans are offering a fro market and

scale back on the overregulation and overlegislation. and that is a choice to make in november. >> i thought it was something to hear that message and we'll loo months. >> you bet. nfox news sunday. chris will talk about the crisis in ukrab. and you have the chairman robert men endez and senator member out of new jersey and a big show coming up this weekend. check out wallace on the big fox. thank you, chris. >> meanwhile president obama will answer questions about obama care on a website. the republicans have a problem with that. they will tell us why. >> and revealing the danger of a terrorist attack on the power grid and how it little it would take to cause a nationwide blackout. >> and this couple in virginia was kicked out.

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a troubling new report shedding light on how vulnerable our american's power grid is to attack and loving the nation in the dark. >> the government report and known in official serbingles and unknown to the public until the wall street journal exposed it. a coordinated attack on a handful of electrical facility could have a profound affect if only nine of the substations were attacked in the right compiination there could be a coast to coast power outage. attention was focused on the

danger when a substation was attacked by gunman. 100 shots were fired and 17 transformers were knocked out. some fear it was a dress rehearsal and exposed a vulnerability. >> it is the simply can't function without electricity. it is clear that the electrical grid is not protected from attack. >> the government needs stronger authority to protect the grid. but the federal energy regulatory agency said it imposed mandatory security standards for the facility. and blasted the wall street journal and said the information crosses the line from transparency and to irresponsibility and gives those who does us harm a road map.

and the american people deserve better. the journal did not report the 31 substations could lead to a nation wide failure. >> that locks like spaghetti. it shoes how complicated the grid is. wow. thank you so much for that report. >> you bet. president obama is planning an on line interview to promote the health care law by web md. our next guest calls that ironic. and how are you senator. and what is the iropy about this? >> it is interesting and web md is more reloyable and popular than the president's website healthcare.gov. and as more and more people are losing their doctors and afford coverage they will turn to westbound md.

and the physical heel thy self and now the patient heel thigh self. >> you are a doctor and do you believe this law make its harder for people to get a doctor? >> it will be worse for those who signed up on the president's health care law. one of the health care law is the cuts to medicare advantage affect the seniors and they will have a harder time getting a doctor. and those who signed up on the internet and signed up with healthcare.gov, they will have fewer choices for doctors and other people who buy their insurance and get it privately in the same communities. it is much, much harder and the shortage of 90,000 doctors and a specialist and gp's and family physicians and so patients will have a harder time getting care

even if they have coverage. >> you are making a speech over the weekend at c-pac? and you are making the case for people tiinginosing themselves to go to westbound md more than their own doctor? dow think that that is the future? >> the health care law hires faep this happened more irs agents, but doesn't train doctors and nurses and physician's assistants to attack care of the patients. there are not enough health care providers out there and what the president is doing to go to westbound md is a poling to the young people that made the decision that the health care is not working for them. prem yups are too high and they have to buy government man dated insurance that is not necessarily right for them and more than they need or want or use. and the president is aggressively trying to recruit

young people and you will see ads in the basketball tournament aimed at young people. >> there is a lot of advertising. this is not between two ferns shall we say. this is web md and it is a q and & a on lean. >> why can't i buy the shrps that works for me and my family. why do i have to buy all of the other insurance that is not something that i need? why can't i make a decision in america what is best for me and who are you to tell me i must buy a government approved program or policy and who will take care of me, mr. president? and i would say to the president, why don't you work with republicans and we have solutions on ways to help people with preexisting conditions get care. and why mr. president can't i

shop for something that works for me and why can't i buy it cross state lines. >> we'll pay attention in the interview. i know you leave for ukraine tonight. and it will be interesting to get your reflections. >> and happy to talk to you when we get back. >> cell phone video capturing a emergency as a call comes to get the plane on the fast on the ground. >> we'll divert the aircraft. we'll be a ratifying quickly as possiblement >> now we are hearing from the hero who leaped in to action to save a baby's life. >> it is a festival and witnesses are in shock. and how this happen. [ male announcer ] right now princess cruises is offering

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we want to update a story on hq a 15 month old stopped breathing in a flight. a passenger captured the ordeal on the cell phone. >> we'll ask you to please sit down. >> the baby had a sewsure and former army medic garrett good win jumped in to academies. did you think you would lose

him. your traping kicks in and i was at the right experience and able to help him. >> goodwin saving the baby's life with chest competition and mouth to mouth resuszitation. oh. oh. oh. the pilot diverting the plane to how fastop where the bab was rushed to the hospital and the baby is now said to be doing fine. wow. >> wow; wow. >> now details about a accident in the south by southwest festival in texas. two people are dead and 26 others injured. it was not an accident. a suspected drunk driver plied in a crowd trying to evade the

police. william has more on that in la. joishgs bill, it was a big crowd. the fatalities was a off thein girl and the other a map from the netherlands. they were listening to music when police tried to pull over a suspected drunk driver. he broke through the barricade and slammed in the crowd going the wrong way. >> he ran over the people and saw twpt or 30 people. and the police car coming behin him. >> there is no way to express theicism though and condolences of the this. i want to acknowledge our first responders. >> the driver was nailed with a stun gun and charged with two

counts of murder. the similar incident in los angeles. the victims claimed that the city failed to keep cars out. and the city of monica paid out 21 million after a car plied through the farmer's market even if there were barricades. >> if a individual was willing to now people down will crash through the barricade or go through. it you have sidewalks and you have a lot of ways for a person to get a round. >> clearly the driver is responsible and the city can't stop all accidents and crimes in anentious haven't this big. they have not released the mug shot or the blood alcohol level. >> unbelievable story. and startling. william thank you from los angeles. >> so ally?

>> obama care was supposed to ease the rise of health care costs and the strong possibility that premiums will go up next year. >> and a charles manson follower can get parole. >> and flying for hours afterg they are denying the reports. and we'll ask an experienced pilot. >> the aircraft may have continued to fly after last contact. we'll conferm shortly those reports to being inaccurate.

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governor reversed that decision. >> and mickey mantling a baseball. and coming in 5 and 1 and half dollar denominations to mark the baseball hall of fame; you know what people do that we talked earlier and then we said we want to know. >> what would you put on the face of a coin? >> send me a tweet@bill hemmer. >> and to me@alisyn camerota. >> so where is flight 370? the maylasian jet may have flown for hours after the last contact and could have gone anywhere in this circle. the maylasian officials say that

is inaccurate. that is the second in recent history for the longest time to find any evidence of a lost commercial aircraft. in 2007 it took throw days to find a flight that went down in these these. it took five days to find air france that went down in the atlantic. and it took 20 hours to roach the wreckage by the volcano. what could have happen to flight 370. ross has 30 years of aviation and flies international routes to the tip of south america to the middle east. what do you think of that wall street journal report that said that rolls royce that creates the engine continued to receive

dauta four more hours after the airline thinks that the flout went down. what do you make of that report in >> sure, alsun. first of all i want to preface and tell everyone to please understand that this is an unusual circumstance and they should go ahead with the travel plans. now about that report. i propose the a theory earlier today, it might have been a controlled ditching. was it incontinuational or a terrorist act or unintensional i am not sure. yet with that transresponder turning off and engine data transmitted, they probably had six hours of foul. four hours could have led to fuel and ditching. and went somewhere and it is under water within a radius that

could have covered 4- 6 hours of fuel. >> why would the pilot turn off the transresponder? >> during flight there shouldn't be any reason to unless something was happening. you don't know of any illustration that pilots turn off. >> no, we want to be on radar because we want earthquake separation from air traffic control and other track besides having our collision avoidance and we want help from air traffic control to alert us to other traffic in our area. >> is there a way. you think that there was a controlled ditching. is there a way to land in a remote area that we have drawn in the grass in afrecawithout detection?

>> as crazy as it seems and i have heard people say aliens. but we'll not go that far. maybe it could have happen. i am not ruling it out as unusual as it is. if we use that circle and look be at that it went to a remote fold. it is hard to hide a boeing under a ta rp. this could be a dress rehearsal for something catastrophic that is coming up. that has me concerned. >> thanks for your expertise and pray that they find information on this today. >> you are welcome, alisyn. >> i think premiums are likely to go up at a smaller pace than what we have seen since 2010. >> secretary sebelius saying health care prem yups is going

up. that is not the plan. sebelius is back on the hill. wasn't obama care supposed to reduce the health care costs. joe served for howard dean's presidential aid of. and david avila helped to work getting republicans in office. thank you for being here. joe, let me start with you. premiums are going up as kathleen sebelius said. if you like your plan you can't keep it and the white house is not collecting data on the people unupon insured. what was the point. >> the ponent was to lower health care costs. health care goes up every year and everybody's premiums have gone up. we used to blame the insurance company. but now we'll blame obama care. it was to bend the cost.

and why the growth rate of health carr -- care costs will be on the delean. it will get to other issues. are enough young people in the plan? all of the problems that are discussed. >> the young folks are not signing up, are they, joe? price is everything. and david, what a lot of people assumed right or wrong, is that this would be a cheap product for them and they will find out it is not. what is the affect of that when it happens? >> you will see more and more people continue opting out of the system. and or finding out how much more they deslike the system. the new york daily times had a piece about the increased costs that citizens are facing for obama care and a young 30

something female said i was for obama care until i learned that i had to pay for it. and as more and more people realize that the system was not what they were solid and not going to bring costs down in the long-term and going to make quality of care worse when there are fewer and newer doctors. which is going to happen with this current system. >> joe, you said over all the cost curve will go down. >> it already is. >> remember the president solid that premiums would go down. >> over time it will happen if enough people enter the pool. david ponented out the problems of not having enough young people sign on. the cost curve is going down if enough people join the program it should drive down premiums as

well. >> joe, are you comfortable with what sebelius said. >> she is telling the truth on this one. >> we saw the results this week in florida that voters in a swing district rejected the president's health care plan and rejected alex singh and voted a republican because he is committed to 90s obama care. >> joe? >> the win in florida was a plus for the republicans, their messaging is working. but the message of alex singh i am for fecesing the problems, it fetes you to a dead heat. that's what i have seen in polling. it is a drag on a democratic and definitely benefitted david jolly, but it gets a close race close. it doesn't give the republican

a huge advantage on the democrat. look, 2014 is going to be a good year for republicans as 2010 was. i will not deny. that i just wouldn't read too much in a special election. republicans won special elections and lost the house and so have the democrats. >> david, we owe you a word next time. >> thank you. and judge judy is doing something she never had done. she's going to court to sue who she wants to see before the bench.

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plane and nasa efforts from space to try to find the plane. should congress have the authority to stop the president from acting too imperial. do you luke or hate the traffic cameras and take your picture and send you a bill. they could be a thing of the past. what is worst for you sugar or pop in >> sugar. >> thank you. and judge judy is looking for help from another court. that lawyeroused connecticut your tv image. does she have a case. >> we have mark and weppy. hello. what dow think about judge judy? >> i love the lawsuit for so manyerancy. in the intellectual property world he stole from judge judy and stole her likeness.

and so he knows exactly what he was doing. i think the bar should look into this. after they said stop and judge judy said you know what you are doing. stop. he continued to use the adand that shoes questions about his ethics as well. >> he is using judge judy's image. and here is judge judy's case as an exert from her side. by trading without concept or authorization well known persona the defendants harmed and diagrammed her hard earned reputation and dignity and prestige. what do you think? >> judge judy is a rock star and she is so well liked. she is admired by the public it is going to be difficult for her to prove damages. does the fact that the lawyer interspersed her image with his

own advertisement is that going to damage her dignity and say i will not watch judge judy any more. it is an uphill battle. i agree it is soughted for a state bar complaint. but does it a ratify to lawsuit material and that they will prove those damages, >> mark? >> yes, he used her in his ad. she is essentially endorsing me. judge judy and look at me and i am on the same level and that to me is not something you look over. you have to compensate. >> judge judy makes 47 million a year. how did he harm her. >> by using her likeness to his advantage. snshg she will donate to charity. and even if it is 75,000. people believe that she supports

this ambulance chaser that is not cool. >> she wants 75 grand. wendy. if anyone knows, judge judy knows, right? and one of the interesting things that distinguishes this case from others, where you have the likeness, if you will, is that nowhere on his ads did he say "as seen on judge judy." on his website he says as seen on other places. he never attributes other statements. there's a difference. >> close enough. >> i want a judge to say do i have stupid written on my forehead? that's what i want. i want her to get the same treatment. >> mark, wendy, thank you. we'll see what happens. >> thank you. what's bringing together an unlikely combination of engineering students, theater majors and athletes? one clue, it's out of this world.

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check it out. college students reaching for the stars to land a spacecraft on the moon. douglas kennedy has all the details for us. hi, douglas. >> hi, alisyn. the u.s. hasn't been to the moon since 1976. and no one has ever been to the moon using private money. but they want to go where no one has gone before. >> it's one small step for man -- >> at least no one who didn't get government funding. >> neil armstrong took a giant leap for mankind. how would you characterize the step you're taking? >> well, i think this is even a bigger leap. this is students taking this leap. it's outrageous, and we're going to the moon.

>> gretchen is a student at penn state university and is working on the lunar lion, possibly the first privately funded trip to the moon. in fact, she's currently in a space race with over a dozen other private groups, in a competition sponsored by google. >> so in order to win, you have to travel to the moon -- >> yes. >> -- travel at least 500 meters on the moon. >> right. >> send video back to the earth. all by 2016. >> all by 2016. and all on private funding. >> so we've got one rocket firing done. >> reporter: michael paul is a space systems engineer. and he's overseeing 80 students. working to build a craft that can withstand huge temperature differentials while also being able to land and travel. they then have to build rockets for cryogenic bipropellant engines fueled with both liquid oxygen and ethanol. >> but that's not the hardest part. >> the hardest part is to get

the rocket engines to work well with the control systems so that together they land the spacecraft carefully on the moon. >> reporter: whoever completes the task first wins $30 million. it's a huge sum of money from google. but it's not what's motivating gretchen. >> what's motivating me is we're making history. this is going to go down as the first students ever to be on the moon, and it's going to be awesome. >> going to be awesome, especially if they can get there first. and paul says if anyone wants to get involved they can go to lunarlion.psu.edu. that's it from here, alisyn. back to you. >> and he zbl very cool stuff. >> the nation's first curved coin is about to go in print at the mint. >> what would you put on a coin? >> our best tweets. next. ♪

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all right. so we asked, what would you put on the face of a coin? >> richard, how about your face,

alisyn? beats old presidents any day. >> thanks, richard. keith says a 1965 pontiac gto. >> ed says i'd put a unfurled flag on one side, and a service man or woman representing our military branches on the other. >> that's a good coin. >> see you tomorrow. here's gretchen. fox news alert today. more confusion surrounding the disappearance of malaysian airlines flight 370. the search for the missing jetliner expanding today as investigators try to determine if someone on board actually diverted it now on purpose. hi, everyone. i'm gretchen carlson. welcome to "the real story" for thursday. new and conflicting theories taking hold after images from a chinese satellite thought to show debris from this plane vf to nowhere. malaysia's transportation minister saying a search of the area where the photos were taken turned up nothing. meantime, the "wall street journal" reporting that the plane flew for as long as four hours after mysteriously dropping off of all radar screens. the engines