can be golden. that is the factor tip of the day. spout off about the factor, o'reilly@ foxnews.com. thank you for joining us, today, i'm bill o'reilly, the spin stops here, we're looking out for you. word of the day, nigon. and there is breaking news tonight. reports that the united states is now convinced the missing malaysia plane did not disappear by accident. welcome to "the kelly file," i'm megyn kelly, a whole lot of information coming in. and a big story breaking moments ago. literally, five minutes ago before we came on the air from "the wall street journal." we'll speak to the reporter who broke the news, and wait until you hear what he says now according to authorities in a moment. but we begin with this. new reports tonight that the plane's communication system was shut down manually and not because of catastrophic failure. that it was shut down manually.

also, "the wall street journal" is now reporting that the plane, this is the new information, flew up to five hours, five hours after communications went dark. u.s. investigators are now reportedly looking into the possibly that it was diverted to a secret location. the possibly, i say, intended to use for some "other purpose." and there is more new reporting that we'll get to in a moment from the journal. there are also reports that this plane sent out pingings of data several hours after the last transponder signal. again i said it a while ago, the "the wall street journal" suggesting up to five hours. and the journal now reporting the last ping came while the plane was over water. and then there is this. fox news is just concerned the u.s. navy is moving the uss kidd into the indian ocean to search

for remnants of the jet. all of this suggests the plane may have done that after taking off, after all. it could have ended up anywhere in this circle, over 2500 miles from where the plane originally was. that would make the potential search area about the size of six united states. we begin with our chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge reporting from washington. >> reporter: and confirming to fox news, they sent periodic pushes of data after the transponder went dark, suggesting that it could fly, but this transponder did not suggest a location, shutting down the transponder was likely a deliberate act. as the search expands into the southwest and indian ocean. they are told they have not

fully discounted the possibility that the jet flew for several hours and the signal is being evaluated in that light. asked about the possibility the white house suggested today it was under serious consideration. >> it is my understanding based on some new information that is not necessarily conclusive, but new information an additional search area may be over the indian ocean and we are consulting with international partners about the appropriate assets to deploy. >> and there is maintenance data stre streams on that jet that would send pulses of information. but the condition of the aircraft remains, and boeing called health management systems. the source could not discuss specifics about the periodic pushes, they say it went beyond the standard maintenance directive. an official telling fox news that the administration would not take a destroyer out of the mix and send it to the indian

ocean on a hunch. there must be significant evidence to support that, megyn. >> thank you, catherine, the reporter who broke some of the headlines that we just brought you from the journal suggests that the plane few for some five hours after the communications went dark. andy, thank you so much for being here, tonight as i see it the headlines coming out of the latest report iing that we just got, the plane up for at least five hours, pinging over five hours over water. the last signal received over water. is that correct? >> that is correct, if this were not such a deadly serious business, you would think it was a fantastic novel. the fast-moving story here has

really changed observer a few d. first, we had a plane that went down but there was not a single plane to be found on the water. then we had had searches, there were various conflicting arguments about why the plane shifted. now we're in a third phase where we have investigators focusing on the idea that the aircraft as you said flew for five hours after the transponder stopped functioning and communicating with the air traffic controllers. it transmitted some messages up to satellite, which gave its position. its speed and its altitude for that whole five -- or longer period of time. and that in fact three features of this aircraft, three automated features which would have allowed controllers a s or

others to track it were turned off. and the indication, the strong suspicion is that this was done on purpose either by the pilot or someone else on board. and as you said, it was commandeered from its normal route, diverted to go somewhere. not clear where or why it is. >> you reported earlier that the malaysian police, these revelations came as malaysian police visited the home of at least one of the pilots. is your belief tonight based on your reporting that they are taking a closer look at one or both of the pilots on board the aircraft? >> well, you know it is very important to be incredibly precise when we talk about these things. and the reports from malaysian about these visits to the pilots' homes have been very conflicting. so i think it is not clear what those mean. what is clear is that malaysia critics would say has not been a very precise investigator. they have not been very precise

in what they have said. and in fact, only today they held a press conference to the acting aviation -- the acting aviation chief held a press conference saying there is no indication that the plane flew for hours after the transponder stopped functioning, basically shooting down the story on where some of the data came from. and then at the same press conference, at the end he said you know we're changing our search, expanding the search, because this plane could have traveled for several hours. so the whole thrust is changing -- >> they're all over the board. let me ask this question, i'm so grateful to have you here, we're short on time. you reported investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane may have been diverted quote with the intention of using it later for another purpose. that they are consideration an intentional diversion of the plane, that the plane may have been landed somewhere and may

resurface for an alternate use? >> well, certainly, a part of the investigation, they're seeing where the plane landed. the data they have is not clear and quite complex to understand. so the investigators are looking at the possibility that the plane landed sometime within a five-hour span, not clear where or when. but it is certainly part of the investigation. >> andy, great reporting, thank you so much. >> very good, thank you. so we have been telling you about this new report and you heard that the communication systems were shut down manually. and now abc news is reporting they were shut down separately. branches were shut down, one at 1:07 a.m., the next at 1:20 a.m. so what does it tell us? and is it possible for this type of jet to go completely dark? charles barnett is a triple 7

pilot and attorney, your reports, charles from abc news that two communication systems had had been shut down separately. so suggesting that this was not a catastrophic event if one was shut off at 1:07 a.m., and one shut off at 1:20 a.m. >> thank you for having me, i don't think there is anything that would suggest the catastrophic event, it is very unlikely with a triple 7 to begin with. it is a very safe airplane. there are several steps a pilot would have to take to shut down the systems. but it is simple enough to do if you have been trained. >> like what? because is it just a matter of pulling a plug on the circuit breaker? can the pilot just do that if he wants to or is it more involved than that? >> i'm assuming we're talking about the automated reporting systems and based on that

assumption alone it is simply a matter -- akin to logging on and off the computer. so if the pilot chose to log off the system which is the data link system to the controllers that would be easy enough. there is a secondary system to that likewise -- >> just to clarify on that. the data reporting system was shut down at 1:07 a.m. according to abc news, the transponder shut down at 1:20 a.m. >> yeah, and for the pilot to shut that down, that is reaching over and shutting down one switch. not a difficult task. >> how could you shut down the transponder and fly for five hours? >> the airplane is perfectly safe to fly without it. it is similar to having a device in your car to go through a toll plaza. if you took that out of your car the car would single function

just fine. so turning off the transponder, other than jeopardizing transmitting, doesn't do anything to jeopardize safety. >> why don't we know where it is if somebody hijacked that? >> i have no idea, that is a big jet, the 300 series weighs nearly 800,000 pounds, this 200 series jet is well over 600,000 pounds. how do you cover that up or hide it? i have no idea. >> andy, thank you. now, this -- sorry charles, now the jet was carrying 239 people and family members have said their cell phones continue to ring. how is that possible? john handsman is a professor of astronautics at m. i. t. good to see you, professor, how is that possible? >> well, the fact that the cell phone rang and they tried to call it doesn't necessarily mean

the signal is getting all the way to the target cell phone. so it could mean that just the circuit is engaging and they're trying to find the cell phone. so i don't think that there is a lot going on there. and the fact that you know when you're out over the water you're not in range of any cell towers so you can't get cell coverage. >> if people were on board a jet that was hijacked taking out their cell phones trying to send texts or cell phones do you find it odd that not a single one got through in five-hour's time if this were the scenario they were looking at? >> yeah, when you're in the middle of the ocean, you wouldn't be in the range of the cell tower if you were trying to send a message and it wouldn't get through. when the aircraft turned back over the malaysian peninsula there was probably a period of time where they were in range of cell towers. however, when you're in high altitude a lot of the cell phones actually shut off any signal coming from an airplane.

>> and what do you make of the breaking news for five hours the plane continued to fly. what does it tell you? >> well, you know it is not surprising. they had plenty of fuel to go that distance. it does appear it was intentionally diverted because of the transponder going off in a turning direction that doesn't make sense for any emergency diversion standpoints. so -- and it could have gone one direction and turned and gone another so that is why it is very hard to say where it would be. but it could have made land. >> wow, professor, thank you. we'll have much more on this breaking news just ahead. plus. >> maybe members of congress would be respected more if we respected ourselves enough to require that when we pass something it be treated as law. >> a fiery speech on the floor of the house now getting national attention and some very

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we have more coming in on that plane and we'll get to it. first we want to bring you this, some fiery words on the floor sending shock waves, as the white house sends a piece of legislation, likely will be vetoed if it reaches his desk. the bill wound up passing the house. and listen to what the bill's lead sponsor had to say when he pitted then senator obama's own words against president obama's policies. >> these last few years, we have a president who is expanding his own power. any guess who said that? mr. speaker it was senator barack obama. here is another one, no law can give congress a back bone if it refuses to stand up as a co-equal branch, the

constitution made it. what do we do with a president who can basically change what congress passes by attaching a letter saying i don't agree with this part or that part. >> and he went on from there. trey gowdy is a south carolina congressman, good to see you, congressman. you're comparing what then senator obama said compared to what president obama has done. the white house is saying good luck with that. we're going to use our pen to veto your bill if we ever get it. >> well, he said he was going to veto it. i was having an interesting time listening to the debate between senator obama and president obama. but one of the clips that was not played, megyn, you're a very, very good attorney. so you will appreciate this. he blamed the supreme court for executive overreach and promised that if he were the president he would support efforts to rein in

executive over-reach. one reason why folks in my arena are not popular is because they're accused of being duplicitous, they want the executive to enforce the law no matter which party is in power. >> does this relate to obamacare and all the executive actions we've seen him take on that or is it broader than that? i know on immigration, his sort of executive order to inpart pass the dream act, you know, to offer legal status to many in this country has upset a lot of folks including yourself, as well. >> well, the example i usually site is mandatory minimums. mandatory minimums have been around in drug cases for years, a and their constitutionality has been upheld. so when the attorney general who is a member of the executive branch announces he will no longer inform courts on the drug amount, you put that with immigration laws and 20-some odd

waivers, and the rhetoric, the president came in and said essentially i'm going to do it with you or without it. so it is a combination of his rhetoric that led to his failure to follow the law that led us to this. >> the president met with members of the congressional hispanic caucus and told them that he asked the homeland security to do an inventory of d dhs' practices. my last question, do you believe the president it's going to do more of this now, that he increasingly has lawmakers running away from him or toward him? >> it depends on whether we let him get away with it. megyn, it depends on whether we live in a country where the end justifies the means.

the people can stop others from doing this. >> congressman gowdy, thank you for joining us. >> yes, ma'am. >> we heard last signals on the plane, and a disturbing video. did anyone do something criminal when a cop opens fire on a 70-year-old man during a traffic stop. you will not believe the caught on tape drama. it is right after this break. >> shots fired. shots fired. drop the gun! . ameriprise asked people a simple question:

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"the wall street journal" reporting that three separate checking systems were shut down manually during this flight. abc news reported that at least two of those were shut down 14 minutes apart. investigators now appear to be studying more and more the possibility that this was done as a result of an intentional human act. and we are investigating where that takes us. this plane apparently flew for five hours after this all occurred before sending its last data signal known as a ping, at some point over water. the united states of america now sending a destroyer, the uss kidd to help with the search. as a result of all of this, more information with an update from the reporter in just moments. shots fired! shots fired!

drop the gun, drop the gun. >> dramatic south carolina video of a traffic stop gone terribly wrong. a deputy opens fire on a 70-year-old driver after he mistakes the man's cane for a shotgun. trace gallagher has the story. >> and megyn, let me just set this up as quickly as i can so we can play it quickly. the 70-year-old vietnam vet was driving through south carolina to florida from the daytona500, he gets out of the truck, doesn't acknowledge the deputy and reaches for something in the back of the truck. watch what happens next. >> hey, sir, sir -- [ gunfire ] >> shots fired, shots fired! drop the gun, drop the gun! [ bleep ]. >> deputy terrence knox fired

six shots and hit the veteran once. he realized when the man was reaching for his cane he is clearly upset. watch this. stay there, stay there. he pulled a cane out from his truck. >> by then, there are other deputies, officers and an ambulance on scene, deputy knox is still very emotional. length now to a colleague who tries to calm him down. >> hey, you did what you had to do, bro. don't worry about it. where is your vehicle? take a break, take a load off. >> why did he get out of the car? >> you did what you had to do. you thought your life was in danger, you did what you had to do. >> the deputy is on paid leave pending the investigation but his commanding officer says watching the videotape he thinks

deputy knox did the right thing. the vietnam vet is going to survive, megyn. >> thank goodness for that, thank you. and "the wall street journal" reporter who broke the news tonight on the plane is back after this break with another update. plus, a group of senators taking action after the white house gave some unions a big gift and stuck taxpayers with the bill. the senate's top republican, mitch mcconnell is here. plus, a woman claiming she was assaulted by a female professor during a pro-life campus event. that 16-year-old is here with her story and her videotape. it is a kelly file exclusive coming up. >> she is a thief. she is a professor. what? i may be a thief but you're a terrorist. ♪

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breaks tonight, "the wall street journal" just reporting moments ago three tracking devices on the missing malaysia airplane were shut off during that flight. this plane, the journal reports, flew, it is believed some five hours after the transponders were shut off. and the last recorded signals from the plane appear to have come over the water. on the phone with us again, andy pastor, one of the reporters who is working this story for the journal and has been covering aviation for a few decades. andy, thank you for joining us. i want to make clear we understand. is your information that they're accepting the theory that the jet turned around from the suspected flight path that the transponder and two other devices were shut off and that the plane appears to have flown for five hours after that.

>> could have flown for as long as five hours, perhaps longer. it is not quite clear. it could have landed during some course of that flight. but that is basically the scenario that folks are pursuing. and you can tell that the search area that is expanding quickly, going into the indian ocean and so therefore you can see that there is some information that they have gleaned from these devices and from these messages that lead the investigators and searchers to believe the plane was headed perhaps toward a specific point and they believe it may have gone down in the indian ocean. >> because u.s. officials have said earlier today that they have an indication that the jetliner may have crashed in the indian ocean. so whatever happened, if this plane was hijacked, it doesn't appear to have worked out as the hijackers wanted to. at least according to that information. are they saying to you, the sources on this, are they suggesting there is still a

possibility of mechanical failure? i mean, is anybody still seriously considering that? >> i think they certainly have not ruled it out. i think it is still a strong possibility. they don't know for sure what the scenario is. there is one fact in all of this. that is if you have a plane of this size go into the water anywhere, you're going to have stuff on the surface and things float from inside of the cabin, to maybe inside the overhead. and the fact that there has been such an intensive search already and it has not turned up a single piece of the wreckage makes people believe there is something going on here. that is the thing that is puzzling and really concerning. a lot of experts have looked at this. >> how certain are they that the pings that were detected after this five hours and the transponders were shut down, were associated with this particular aircraft? >> there is no doubt about it. it was the aircraft trying to breach the satellite system.

and essentially, someone sticking up their hand, in an analogy, saying i'm here, ready to transmit. it was seeking to transmit the normal data and it never transmitted the data. but the signals clearly are from this aircraft and they were able to track the aircraft -- >> do the experts here have any innocent explanation for why the transponders and two other systems would have been shut down and then the plane would have flown for five hours without landing, it was over land at that time, we believe. you know, without landing or doing anything other than continuing its journey? >> for simultaneously all that to happen, i don't think you can come up with a very convincing scenario, you can come up with a scenario, but it is getting more difficult day by day to come up with a scenario that just deals with the mechanical. the other situation the viewers

should be aware of that has not gotten a lot of attention. we keep talking about an investigation and investigators. in fact, because the wreckage has not been found there is no country that has the authority to conduct an aviation crash investigation. it is really quite a problem, because in fact as the former chairman of the ntsb jim hall likes to tell people, you need somebody in charge. and literally at this point nobody is in charge because there is no country heading up the investigation. so that is another complication on top of all the other things we have been talking about that could hamper and delay getting answers. >> and as you pointed out earlier the malaysian authorities are all over this. andy, thanks again. >> you're welcome. >> wow. and in other news developing tonight, republican senators are taking action to block a special white house tax exemption for some of the union supporters of the white house and obamacare.

one that saves these groups some money, but leaves others paying their bill. joining me now, republican senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell. mr. minority leader, good to see you. there was a debate about whether the white house, the union leaders would give this gift in essence. john thune says the gift has happened, it has been given, can it be taken back? >> well, you know, there have been special deals in the beginning, there was the cor cornhusker kickback, then the louisiana purchase, the special deal for louisiana, the gate gatorade, since the law has been implemented, the president is delaying suspending portions of it over two dozen times. now it is the hardship exemption. well, look, the solution to this is to give a hardship exemption to everybody. and republican senators believe

that we ought to repeal the individual mandate and restore the money raised by repealing the individual mandate to the medicare program to restore medicare advantage and other programs for seniors that have been used to fund all of this. >> but that is not going to happen with a democratic president in the white house. with barack obama in the white house. so that -- right now that is just talk. is there any realistic you know, workout or end around, whichever you know the people want for this law? >> well, the roadblock is the democratic senate. you know one thing the voters of america could do would be to make me the majority leader next year. at least that way we could get some of this relief on the president's desk. i mean, right now he is protected from anything he doesn't want to do by a democratic senate, which enables him to do whatever he chooses to do. >> what do you think the likelihood is that that happens? >> well, i think the american people. you look at what happened in the florida special election

tuesday. a race the democrats were expected to win. they didn't. obamacare was a big issue in that race. i think we've got an excellent chance of turning the senate around next year and taking america in a different direction. and at least with the president still there being able to get onto his desk things that would provide relief from this catastrophe that has been inflict inflicted on the american people through obamacare. >> nancy pelosi says that the democrats should embrace the obamacare, and that they should run on it and it wouldn't hurt them. >> good, i hope they do it and the opponents will respond. and again, we'll update you on the missing plane. plus, a pro-life protest turned violent on campus. you will not believe who is accused of being behind the crime. we'll show you the tape and the teenage victim is here live for a kelly file exclusive. >> she is a thief. she is a professor.

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what? >> better guide -- >> i may be a thief but you're a terrorist. >> i may be a thief but you're a terrorist. that was a professor. trace gallagher live in the news room with the details, trace? >> megyn, it happened at the university of california santa barbara in their free speech zone, the two sisters who are not students there but are members of a pro life group on campus handing out informational material, carrying anti-abortion signs with what some considered graphic images of a fetus. the approach said she is pregnant and the images triggered a negative response. she and another student grabbed the signs and walked into the building. the sisters called police and followed her inside to get their signs back and watch what happened next. >> don't touch me. hey, don't touch me.

>> and she just pushed my sister. >> i don't care. >> you did not pay to go here. >> you just assaulted me. you don't want to -- near her. >> pushed her sister three times. when police arrived the professor told them she thought the protesters were violating school policy. the school said they were not. they are looking to press charges. the district attorney is now reviewing the case, megyn. >> all right, trace, thank you, joining me now, those two sisters. great to see you both. let me start with you, you go on campus, you don't go to the school but you wanted to make your point, your anti-abortion point clear in a free-speech zone. the professor coming over and what did she do? >> she grabbed the sign with my friend, sarah, and first she started a group, trying to make the students do it. but they didn't want to. so she had to do it herself. she grabbed the sign and ran off with it. handed it to her students.

walked off with it. and went into o-- through a couple of buildings. she was going to her office in one of the buildings. >> when she said that to you, that is you videotaping her walking away with your property, the sign, she tried to get in the elevator with the sign, you weren't having it. you put your foot in the elevator. you say she assaulted you, how so? >> at first she just started by kicking my feet out of the elevator so it could close and she could get away, so i kept putting my foot in, she started to get violent and started to shove me. and by then when i still kept blocking the door from closing she finally exited the elevator and grabbed me and pulled me away from the door so that others could get away. >> she says that she felt she was triggered by these images and that her students were wanting her to take the sign away. and that she had the moral right to act in the way she did. your thoughts on that.

>> i mean, no one has the right to take someone else's property like that. i mean, i'm sorry of these signs offended her in any way. but after all she does teach or show porn to her students, so she is really not the one to talk about offending images. >> she is an associate professor of feminist studies and has a manuscript called taste for brown sugar, examining the media and the african-american's representation there in. joan, lot et me ask you this, d you think your group may have gone too far. she says i was pregnant and didn't want to see the images of aborted fetuses. and she says she didn't want students to see this that were going to class. >> no, i don't think i went too far at all. the pictures show what violence

after what happened. what is so much worse is the violence itself. and if we have to show what is happening out there to stop it then we have to go there and show it. >> were you surprised at how aggressive she was in taking the sign? i mean, offensive or not it was not her property. people do get angry, but most of the time we can shout it down and bring it to a good conversation. she didn't want to talk to us at all. any time we tried to say something she covered it up. and grabbed it. basically she was just trying to get attention and couldn't handle it -- >> and what happened in this particular incident -- i know you would like to press charges and police are apparently looking into that. ladies, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> how about that? we're taking your comments on it, follow me on twitter

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breaking tonight, new reports showing the missing plane may have flown for up to five hours, perhaps longer after the last known contact. "the wall street journal" reports tonight there is no doubt that the pings were from this particular plane. also we're just learning that three tracking devices on the malaysia airlines jet were manually shut off, or shut off at least, two at separate times during the flight. the u.s. is now sending a destroyer to the indian ocean to help to search for the missing

aircraft. and we have been reporting on some of the stories across the country over the last month as americans adjust to obamacare rollout. more than 60 million people losing their insurance because of the mandate. others dealing with higher premiums and big expenses. this week we came across victoria scott, a patient of our very own dr. mark siegal. dr. siegal, the patients who have spoken out about the law saying they have been negatively affected have been getting hammered by those who defend the law saying it is all nonsense, literally, harry reid says it is nonsense, you say it is not. >> i have a lot of theories, but when i saw victoria, i saw it in fact. she is 27 years old, can't be on her parents commute plan, $5800 deductible, maybe thinking i can get by with it, because i'm not

sick. i wanted to get an ultrasound, she said i can't afford $500 for that. by the way, i checked and you're not even in my plan, so i have to pay you, whatever you charge is not even going to count towards my deductible. imagine my frustration, i'm sitting there and want to take care of this woman. i think i can. she can't afford the cost. really, the insurance is a joke, it has been called a ponzi scheme, she is paying for somebody older and sicker to get coverage later on. i appreciate that, i want all the patients to get care, i can't help her. >> would you have had to say for all the tests under the old insurance that you had had that got cancelled? >> not the old one that i had cancelled. it would have changed. they were going to cancel it and i would have to pay a higher premium and then it would cover it. >> how are you enjoying the obamacare? >> so far it is not working out too well for me, i have to pay a

higher premium and meet the deductibles before it gets set into place. but i didn't expect anything like this to happen. i was prepared for the bronze plan thinking i didn't need anything more that that. >> so then you decide to upgrade, is everything covered under the silver plan? >> no, not quite, now she is paying more than 450 in premiums, she is down to a $2300 deductible. but guess what? she can't afford that ultrasound either. >> and with regular insurance they would have been covering the tests and not made you get to the $2300 deductible. >> one out of five women have a thyroid problem, president obama is not sensitive to this problem. >> i know you voted for president obama, do you plan to pay for these tests even though you have to get it done? >> i'm going to have to. it is something my doctor recomme recommends.

i'm going to have to do that. just on top of the premiums and the tests, it is just something that i didn't expect. >> and for those like harry reid who suggests these are lies -- >> they're not necessarily lies, everyone has a different circumstance and everything. you know, i'm not sure about that. >> she is very polite. >> i don't want to call anyone a liar. >> doctor, good to see you, thank you very much. we'll be right back. geico motorcycle. see how much you could save.

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reaction to our show tonight. not just the plane information which has everybody atwitter, follow me @megyn kelly, see you tomorrow. and this is a fox news alert. it has been six days since the air traffic controllers last heard from the missing malaysian plane. and now they report that the u.s. investigators believe the plane stayed in the air four to five hours after it vanished off the radar screen. now the report also reveals this stunning possibility that the u.s. counter terrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that somebody on the plane may have diverted to an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the plane's transponders, to divert it. according to one person, catherine herridge has more on the story.