patrick, missouri, their third annual road bowling competition, each player attempting to make the fewest throws to move that ball down the road and sometimes they have to dodge cars. i'm jamie colby, take care of everybo everybody. >> i'm eric shawn. golf and bowling in one game? have a great day. i'm doug mcelway in for shannon. this is a fox news alert on two breaking news stories. more than a week after a malaysian jetliner disappeared, the question remains the same. where is flight 370. malaysia's government is looking for help hoping some asian nations will have some dater. as passengers and crew come under the microscope, the search grows bigger. 25 nations on the hunt. retired navy pilot chuck nash will weigh in on the search. russia showing no signs of backing down in ukraine as its troops reportedly take over a

natural gas distribution center. this comes after polls get ready to close in the strategic region of crimea, the people there expected to vote to split from ukraine and potentially join russia. we'll have a live report from kiev. congressman ed royce is here. first let's go to bangkok where david piper is following developments in the search for flight 370. david? >> reporter: the search for the missing plane has moved into an even more difficult phase over the last 24 hours. they're looking for it over a vast area of sea and land. that's because they found a major clue to where the plane might be. investigators say from analyzing satellite data they believe the plane flew on a northern or southern arc after turning away from original route to beijing. it coffers kazakhstan to the north and deep into the indian ocean to the south.

they're also looking into the possibility it managed to reach land in one of 11 countries. the malaysian government has said there's a huge degree of certainty that somebody switched off the tracking oovps devices on the plane before it changed direction. the focus on the investigation is on the crew and passengers. malaysian police have been searching the homes of the two pilots of the missing plane and speaking with their families. they took away for analysis a flight simulator the chief pilot had built in his home. >> i believe it's not intentionally done by the pilot or anything. it must be controlled by another person or some kind of cult that was cooperating with the pilots themselv themselves. >> reporter: investigators are looking at the passengers on board with any link to the plane's disappearance.

some have already been cleared by the investigation, but they're still waiting background checks on others. they're also interviewing the maintenance team and the engineers that were around the plane when it took off over a week ago. back to you, doug. >> david piper, thank you very much. we turn to retired u.s. navy captain and fox news analyst chuck nash. thanks for joining us. >> pleasure. >> in our interconnected world where we have instant communication and satellite imagery, there's a sense among the world's population that it's a very small world. when you're conducting a search over this magnitude of ocean, it's a very, very large world indeed. it is looking for a needle in a hey stack. tell me how you go about a grid search like this? >> first off, what they have to do is come up with an approximate area where they're going to start that search. they've done that by looking at pings from the aircraft as they hit a satellite over the indian ocean. based on the ranging of that and an almost constant range,

they've postulated that that range, to be fair, could go north or south. once you start searching along that line, if you assume the southern route, now you're looking more at ocean. if it's ocean, you want to get navy ships and submarines out there that have extremely sensitive listening devices. >> on that point there, if this electronic event recorder in the plane, the black box, the orange box, is picking away, our ships and submarines and aircraft will be able to hear that? >> yes. that device will work 30 days from the days it hits the water. if you follow the northern route, things get more complicated, complicated in the sense that you could land on a small airport, you could cover the air kraft to conceal the aircraft if it did, in fact, land there. but it aids in finding it because somebody had to see that

airplane land. if it landed in a normal airport, that would be very hard to disguise. if it landed in an airport that was not used for that kind of operation, it would become even more suspicious. >> how many airports are there like that? >> in the search area? about 600. >> infinite possibilities for practical purposes there. let's talk a little bit about a pilot's forum i was looking at earlier today. one pilot suggested that in that part of the world at that time of the light you'd be very, very lucky that everybody wasn't asleep at their radar screen. what do you make of that? >> air traffic control folks are professional. i think that those who are actively handling air trafgs, that's one thing. you get out to where you're looking for raw radar returns that are suspicious. unless you have some automatic technology within that to capture that and put a track

over it and you start building a track file on that contact, it can escape you. most modern radars, when they start picking up something, they'll assign a track file to it. >> in some of these images there's evidence that the plane went up to sthing like 45,000 feet which is beyond the operating range of a 777. we know it can fly that high but can't provide enough oxygen for passengers on board which raises the question of hypoxia. a lot of people suggest a gruesome death. that's not necessarily so, though, or incapacitation. what happens through hypoxia. >> what happens is the blood starts to become deoxygenated. you get carbon dioxide buildup, and unless you get more oxygen in, you start getting tingling -- everybody experiences differently. common denominators are tinge nlg the outer extremities,

flushness, cold feeling. if that continues, you pass hypoxia and go into true oxygen starvation, you just go to sleep. >> it's not painful. you just become a little bit incoherent and it progresses to sleep. >> the 45,000 feet, that's an estimate. once you get further away from radar you have what's called bean width distortion. that could come up with a very false reading. if they wanted to -- if whoever did this, and we're making an assumption here that they wanted to depressurize the dock pick, at 35,000 feet, if whoever was running the airplane went on separate oxygen system and depressurized the cabin, the people in the cabin would have 15, 10 seconds of useful consciousness. you don't have to go to 45,000 feet. 35 would have done the job. >> captain, fascinating insights. thank you.

>> you bet. polls close in crimea is less than an hour. at issue, whether to join russia or demand greater autonomy. senior affairs correspondent greg palkot in crimea. >> reporter: it is being granded as illegal. that vote is shaking things up in kiev. people in crimea claiming to us there has been a 75% turnout and all indicators point to a strong endorsement of crimea breaking away from ukraine and joining russia. the majority of the population is ethnic russians. a massive propaganda campaign aimed at rigging the election. most importantly in the last two weeks we have been watching a massive mobilization of russian troops into that region. this weekend alone the number building up to 22,000. also this weekend we've watched a small incursion of troops on the other side of the border

into main land ukraine. we spoke yesterday with senator john mccain. he is here on a fact-finding tour. he called further russian advances into ukraine a breach of enormous consequence. secretary of state kerry has been issuing his own warnings to his counterpart, russian foreign minister lavrov on the phone. here in' evidence, a lot of people are watching and waiting with new word that there's more pro russian and violent protests in the eastern part of the country, the fledgling tran dishl government is trying to mobilize the military, calling up 20,000 more national guards. here is what one young woman told me about her concerns, her fears. take a listen. >> i pray for the unity of ukraine, for independence of ukraine and to get rid of russia ag russia aggression, but putin

aggression. >> reporter: we could get early results in about an hour, hour and a half from crimea, doug. tomorrow we should get more official results. then russia has to respond to those results along with the u.s. in the west. they have threatened sanctions and more. here we go. back to you. >> we'll be watching for those referendum results. joining us is the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, c. republican ed royce. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> no sooner had foreign minister lavrov assured secretary kerry on friday that the russian federation had no intention of further military intrusions into ukraine, then a day later, less than a day later we saw this russian military intrusion on a gas plant that's beyond the crimean border. what do you make of that? can the russians be trusted at all? >> i think until we give the

russians something to worry about -- let me put it this way -- putin, putin something, they'll continue to push the envelope. we should be announcing a national campaign, frankly to send gas, a manhattan-style project, get the gas out of the united states into ukraine, in to eastern grurp and remove the monopoly that putin has. because right now that's over half of the income that supports his military. that's how he basically supports his government. and if we were to go in there with a huge program, it would end in the united states the problem where we're flaring gas because we have a surplus, we're capping wells. we could create tens of thousands of jobs here in the united states and make ukraine and eastern europe less dependent on putin's power. but most importantly, it would

give putin the -- to put into the calculus here, what will happen eventually to the stock market, to the futures market on gas, to gas prom and their monopoly over europe. and lastly, what will happen to his power, his ability to finance his military? that's the way to get him to the table. >> mr. chairman, jay carney was asked about this at the white house press briefing on thursday and friday and said the administration is all for that, but the infrastructure is not in place to deliver liquid natural gas to europe at this point in time, it's still next year before we can do that. >> hold on, hold on. the futures market reacts instantaneously. if we were to announce a rollout which they're not going to do because their focus in the administration is on this climate argument. fossil fuels is not part of what they intend to do as a massive program to sell gas into eastern

europe. the impediments that have been there for the last five years are the make kings of the administration themselves. they're the ones that have blocked the permits. so if we want to get this thing up and running and break a monopoly which putin has which gives him monopoly profits and the ability to dictate terms over there, we've got to seriously get out in front and announce a national program to speed all of this up focused on ukraine and eastern europe. i don't hear the administration doing this. we just passed a resolution out of my committee directing them to do this, and i don't expect them to until we pass statutory legislation which we're going to have to do in the house and hopefully in the senate, dick kating this policy. >> critics have said that the obama administration have gone beyond appeasement in this case to almost a gandhi-like passivism when it comes to putin's aggressions. do you agree with that assessment? or should we be talking a

stronger military stance in this case? >> we need leverage. you heard the commentary made by the secretary of state. this is not -- words are not what work with putin. what works with putin is something that changes his calculation about how much it's going to cost his country. the one thing he cares about is the income that supports his military. you take that away, you break the monopoly and tell eastern europe, all of whom have written to the speaker of the house, four countries, four heads of state have written to our speaker john boehner and said please give us an option, please send gas, sell gas into our markets. that's where the foreign policy leverage is here. this is the way we change the dynamic, but we have an administration that because of their hostility to fossil fuels, is not going to embrace this, we're going to have to pass legislation with huge bipartisan majorities which i think we'll

get in order to force the hand of the add stragsz. that, finally, will force putin's hand. >> chairman ed royce, thank you very much. a delegation of u.s. senators have just returned from ukraine as you heard greg say. meeting with officials, john hoeven joins us live later in the show. past that, investigators put the pilot of flight 370 under the microscope. a former top tsa official tells us what the next phase of the operation looks like. and then the u.s. gives up control of the internet. we'll explain that. and the senate and the cia duke it out over spying and a separation of powers. keep it here. [ female announcer ] we'll cook all day today, but we're not staying in the kitchen. just start the slow cooker, add meat and pour in campbell's slow oker sauce. by the time you get home, dinner is practically done. and absolutely delicious. everne is cooking wiew campbell's slow cooker sauces.

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a long similar herring dispute between one of the country's most powerful senators, a democrat, and the nation's most famous spy agency, the central intelligence agency broke into the open view in a very dig way this week. listen. >> besides the constitutional implication, the cia's search

may also have violated the fourth amendment, the computer fraud and abuse act as well as executive order 12333. >> as far as the allegations of cia hacking into senate computers, nothing could be further from the truth. we wouldn't do that. >> there you have it. joining me former indiana democratic senator and fox news contributor evan bayh and republican congressman pete hoef stra. good afternoon to both of you. very interesting to see senator dianne feinstein make a remark like that. there's been very much in the need for intelligence and the supporter of intelligence. what do you think about that? >> she was obviously exercised about a couple of things. she's cared about the so-called enhanced terror techniques for some time. i think the frustration is built by the fact that it's not been released to the public for a period of time. now you have this internal

dispute going back and forth between the staffs and referred to the justice department. my guess is she was worried about the potential risk to her staff and what she viewed as an attempt to intimidate her staff and that's why she spoke out. they're both good people. john brennan is a good man. he has a lot on her plate. dianne is a good chairman. i wish everybody would take a step back so we can focus on linings like crimea, syria, iran. >> congressman hofstra, is that your interpretation as well? >> i don't think it ever needed to get to this point. it should have been a phone call between john brennan and senator feinstein a few months ago. leon panetta, michael hayden, i served with both of those former directors of the cia. with this kind of issue, they would have picked up the phone. they would have said, pete, we've got a problem, we've got

to work through this potentially compromised sources and methods, let's find a solution. it never would have gotten to this point. it could have been avoided. cia director john brennan believes he needs to protect his sources and methods and his people in the cia. i thi senator feinstein, at least the republicans believe this is a partisan investigation so they haven't gotten on board. it's just a signal that there's a lot of deep problems going on here. >> it came to light last week that white house counsel katherine rum bler is trying to mediate. is that the right route to go, senator bayh? >> this lands in the oval office of the president's feet. john brennan works for him and he needs to maintain a relationship with dianne feinstein as an ally in the senate. so if she can serve as a good will emissary, i'm all for it. these are good people. we have bigger things to deal with. we need to get this resolved and

put behind us. >> saxby chambliss suggested this needs to be handled by an independent body. what do you make of that, congressman hoekstra. >> number one, i'd go the mediation route. clearly there are, as the senator suggested, lots of other issues that the cia and senate intelligence committee need to be working together on. the cia needs to be establishing a strategy. the intelligence committee needs to be doing the appropriate oversight and giving the latitude in the lanes of the road that the cia can be operating on. as the senator said, there's lots of critical problems. they need to be focusing on those things. this whole investigation, this is about events that happened 13 years ago that republicans and democrats on capitol hill and the bush administration jointly approved and set the direction for. there's some question about whether this is really an in-depth and appropriate investigation at this time.

>> senator bayh? >> i think the congressman raises a good point. these practices, enhanced interrogation techniques were stopped five or six years ago. there's a national consensus that we don't do this sort of thing anymore. what you have here is the committee and the staff understandably feeling the institutional role of the intelligence function and the senate intelligence committee is important and needs to be robust. on the other hand, john brennan has an agency he's got to run. you have to be considered about work product, preliminary work product. how do they function if all that can be made public? it's difficult. there's some legitimacy on both parts. if the president's council can serve to mediate this and get it off the front page of the newspaper, we'd all be better off. >> former senator evan bayh, congressman hoekstra, great to see you both. well into the week of the international mystery, police search the homes of two pilots and take special interest in the flight simulator in the pilot's

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a buy partisan group of eight u.s. senators has just returned from a trip to ukraine. they made the journey at the request of ukraine leaders who are looking for any kind of help they can get in stopping russia's advancement. one of those on the trip, republican senator john hoeven. welcome back. >> good to be with you. >> when did you get back? >> just this morning. a little jet lagged. it's good to be over there and see what's going on. >> give us your initial impressions. >> it's a very pivotal time for

them, with the light on the demonstrations on the square, a new interim government is in. very worried about what russia is going to do. clearly the referendum on crimea looks like russia is going in there. are they going to go further? very tense time. >> it looks like they've already gone further in the sense that they've approached this gas plant. helicopters, i think 20 or 30 soldiers have taken over the gas plant which is beyond the ukrainian border. >> that happened last night while we were there. the reason for it, i believe, is you've got gas and water that comes into crimea that comes from the north, from ukraine. i think what the russians are doing there is trying to make sure they control that gas line where it comes into crimea. that's what it looks like at this point. >> there are portions of eastern ukraine -- this raises the point -- that are valuable industrial areas. why wouldn't they make another pov for that? >> that's the concern. that's why it's so important that we take strong action with our allies, with the european union.

we need to put diplomatic and economic sanctions in place. we have a bill in congress to do that. we need to move it. we need to provide economic aid to the ukraine. we know what the outcome of this referendum is going to be in crimea. it's a bogus election. the question is what does russia do once the results of that election come in? what do they do? >> which are about an hour away, less than an hour. >> right. we're clearly going to have to take action and it's going to have to be action with our allies to make sure russia suffers koens consequences. >> do you sense any weakness among our allies? as much natural gas as we have in this country and there are calls to ship it to that part of the country. europe is still heavily dependent on russian natural gas. >> that's a big concern. something like 30% of the eu's gas comes from russia and have

goes through the ukraine. that's a weakness, an area where we have to help both in the short and the long-term. but clearly we have to take action and the eu has to step up. merkel's comments in germany were very important last week, and we need to follow through together with sanctions that will truly have an impact, and i believe they will, on russia. >> you've got the most productive natural gas function in your state perhaps of any. there are others, of course. how quickly are we approaching the point where we can ship liquid natural gas to western europe? >> just announcing that we're going to go forward and do it will have an impact right away. working with countries like norway, a tremendous amount of natural gas that they produce, they can bring into the eu in the near term, we can work on it over the longer run and have a real impact. it's an important market for us. it will help strengthen ukraine. >> senator john hoeven, welcome

back to the united states. we appreciate you making that trip on behalf of the united states citizens. >> thank you. today malaysian authorities are investigating a flight simulator they confiscated from the home of one of the pilots. they're looking for any clues as to what caused the plane to vanish. in los angeles, dominic dinatale. >> building the flight simulator is raising an awful lot of questions. just because he had it at home doesn't mean he was the only one that practiced on it. did he let someone else practice on that flight simulator and if so, who they were. the reason they're beginning to think along these lines is because of that left turn that the plane took, before it took off according to the malaysian

authorities. you can see the flight simulator on the screen with captain shah behind there. what may they discover from that? this is what the authorities are looking into. >> we took possession of the flight simulator. we have dismantled it from the room and assembled it at our office and getting experts to look at it now. >> reporter: so that's the captain's side of the story at the moment. also, investigators looking into the first officer. those investigators leaving the house of both the pilots actually outside kuala lumpur. they're also looking into any engineers that may have had access to the plane before it took off. they are thoroughly going through anybody that any any connection to the plane whatsoever. we understand the captain was an obsessive supporter of

malaysia's jailed opposition leader, according to "the mail" on sunday, british newspaper. does this missing plane have anything to do with some political or ideological protest? that's the consideration right now. listen. >> the four areas of our focus on the investigation, number one, hijacking, number two is sabotage, number three, personal problem, number four psychological problem. that doesn't change, and that includes the ground staff, everybody. >> of course naturally it's the cockpit crew everyone is looking at. as the authorities were saying in that sound bite, everybody is being looked at. we do know the crew radioed to the malaysian air traffic control -- after the disabling of the tracking system, and that in itself is very suspicious as well. it's giving a sense that either the pilots may have done that.

whether they did it voluntarily as some sort of plot or whether they're forced to do it, everybody is still trying to work that out. >> thank you, dominic. joining us, tom blank, a former deputy director of the transportation security administration. tom, thanks for coming in. >> nice to be here. >> i want to ask you about a directive or advisory that the department of homeland security issued i think on february 19th to be on the lookout for shoe bombs, this in the aftermath of chatter that was picked up by our intelligence services. what do you make of that? do you think it might play into this disappearance of the plane? >> it's certainly a possibility. i think it's a testament to the fact that the u.s. authorities, homeland security authorities are on top of intelligence, constantly analyzing intelligence, looking for these threat streams. in this case i think the malaysians have been very slow

in beginning to have a look at these pilots and finding a flight simulator, a very sophisticated piece of equipment, even if it's a crude one in a pilot's home is certainly unusual to the point of being pretty suspicious. >> it was as you said a sophisticated flight simulator. he didn't have just one computer screen that some kid would choose if he was playing a fancy microsoft game. he had three computer screens and apparently other functions in addition to that. and beyond that, according to his friends, he had an unbelievable fascination with the 777, to the point that -- beyond what most pilots know. he sought out all kind of detailed engineering information about the operation of this 777. >> this would begin to suggestion a conspiracy. if he's gathering that kind of information, has this kind of equipment, it's probably not for him and himself alone. this would suggest that he's doing some private training of people that may have been accomplices, may have been part

of a conspiracy, and i think that's now where this begins to go. we've got to start to piece together who may have aided and abetted whatever happened aboard that aircraft. it still could be crashed into the sea some place. it certainly does begin to look like we've had a cockpit breach and we've had some member of the crew or the pilots that have been deeply involved in whatever happened in this incident. >> as a former head of -- former deputy director of the transportation security administration, you have some sense of what security was like in malaysia. is it up to snuff? >> it's not the same as it is in western europe or the united states. one testament to that is that we keep hearing from the transport ministry and the military, which is to say malaysia doesn't have a dedicated transportation security agency, and that's one of the key lessons that we took after 9/11, is we had to have that kind of dedicated resource and able to stay on top of these

kinds of threats and be able to manage them and prevent them. >> tom, blank, former deputy director of the tsa, thank you for coming in. >> thank you. crimea prepares to turn the page. its complicated history with russia and ukraine when we come back. a ollie north will give us his take in just a moment. is this the bacon and cheese diet? this is the creamy chicken corn chowder. i mean, look at it. so indulgent. did i tell you i am on the... [ both ] chicken pot pie diet! me too! [ male announcer ] so indulgent, you'll never believe they're light. 100-calorie progresso light soups. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance

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in just 20 minutes or so the embattled crimean peninsula seems likely to vote itself part of russia and out of ukraine. joining us for what the expected changeover means for a possible new cold war, here is lieutenant colonel oliver north, host of "war stories." >> as i was mentioning to you in the break, i'm in the midst of reading the biography of winston churchill, the installment of 1938 where all of parliament, all the western powers are fearful of taking a stand against adolf hitler, fearful of war. they lost millions of young men in the battlefields of belgium and france during world war i, they don't want to repeat that. they think to confront hitler at that point in time is to embolden him. it almost seems like we're seeing a repeat of that. >> no doubt. what you're seeing with putin, of course, is an effort to

recreate as best he can a failed empire. here is the thing about what you're reading about right now. neville chim berlin comes back from the munich conference and promises peace for our time as we gets off the airplane. the only thing this drama in the ukraine lacks is a neville chamberlin with his umbrella and hat. what putin is doing is not only a threat to ukraine, and it's probably going to separate the country in two. he's not going to stop with crimea. we saw the adventure he did on a pipeline. 11 pipelines go through crimea -- excuse me -- through ukraine. europe is not going to stand up for having lights turned out in luxembou luxembourg. this administration here in washington, d.c. could have stood up, but they also know that putin can shut off the flow of equipment in and out of afghanistan on our only other

route besides pakistan. so it's been hands off putin the whole time. the tragedy for the people of ukraine is not jurs theirs, it's any other country that counts on us as an ally. think of amman, jerusalem, seoul, korea, manila, standing up to potentially aggressive neighbors and counting on america's promise, we'll help you if you need it. we've disproven a fafkt of life that's existed since 1945. >> the one difference is that this is the nuclear age. 1938 was not a nuclear age, and people say that we're not going to have a war on the scale of world war ii and the geopolitical interests of the united states are not beholding on ukraine. >> certainly not just on ukraine. if you look at what the threats to as stone yeah, latvia, lithuania, if you look at the threats to the rest of europe about what putin can do, his

army is a paper army. he exports gas and oil, weapons and people. he is the head of a dieing country and he knows it. he's going to add several million more now who used to be ukrainians. they're now going to be russians. he'll add some more if somebody doesn't say stop and make sure he k and bluster from kiev, the bluff and bluster from washington, he knows it's all hollow. he has a hollow army to take planned that doesn't belong to him. that's an act of war, not simply international law. >> we're out of time. one more q. where does putin stop? >> as long as he's getting his testosterone supplements, he probably doesn't. >> ollie, thank you very much. great to see you. the united states is giving up its power over the worldwide web. is it the right call? a fair and balanced debate when we come back. it's how i look at life.

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froensack . the united states is relinquishing control over the internet. specifically the body that manages internet names and addresses. it is called the internet corporation for assigned names and numbers. i bet you didn't know it

existed. it does and it is important. it is to encourage global cooperation but some american businesses are concerned and some say this is a move to appease foreign governments angry about nsa surveillance and perhaps american citizens concerned about the same. here for a fair and balanced debate, rob johnson and radio show host rich. is this a move to increase censorship? or does it increase the possibility? >> not at all. i think it is a 10 in the right direction. we have a more globalized society. it is one thing for all the world to come together and manage the internet. not just one country managing it over another. when we can give up the reins, we are the leader and give them up for the world to move over. >> do you agree with that? >> i do not agree with that. i think giving up the internet to an undefined global society is a horrible, horrible and potentially dangerous mistake.

i think it could lead to censorship and why would we invite countries like russia and china and the united nations to potentially censor what we do in america. >> the internet is bigger than just america and that's the point of the president and the department of commerce trying on make here. that it is broader than just one country or another country. that's why the tech community is parading this decision. it is the right thing to do as the world becomes more and more globalized. >> which everyone does support that, richard. >> i wonder if there is a threat of this censorship seeping into other countries. we know there is censorship in china and that google in its interests has agreed to that. >> when you look at the developing world, there are more and more people. the internet becomes the connection to the rest of the world of censorship will be something people look down upon

and not celebrate or parade. what we'll see in china, i think we'll see a more open and inclusive society as time goes on. that's why the tech community in silicon valley is parading this decision. i think it should cause pause in all americans' minds. you think that even though we do have the freedom of speech the nsa is already monitoring what we're doing as it is. >> well, i think that is why this administration is overreacting. they have nsa spying on us here in our own country and now we're going to turn over the reins to an undefined global group. why don't we define who the group is who is going to run the internet and provide domain names. i think it should stay right where it is. and i think there will be an outrage among americans and this could be an election issue. >> i wouldn't go as far to say it will be an election issue. and two, to your point, i think there is -- >> of course you wouldn't. >> that is a little bit of a gray area for me. if the nsa is currently spying

on americans, this started with george w. bush to put the facts out there. now we're going into a situation where we want to stop the nsa from spying and we'll put the united states in charge of our internet even though nsa is the government and it is spying us on. it seem a walking contradiction. >> it is a depressing scenario. i have to say because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely and so much power is beholden in the internet that somebody is going to try to gain control of it. how do you stop that? for practical reasons? >> look, i can tell you, i don't trust this administration. i don't trust the obama administration but he guarantee you i trust them more than i trust vladimir putin and his administration. >> well, he won't be the one running it. >> he is running circles -- how do we know? >> let's not mix apples and oranges. i think what the president is advocating, that we come together and find out who will be controlling it. we set up a new body to do it. through united nations, through a collaboration of countries.

>> it is not we setting it up. >> how do you get united nations to do that fairly when in fact half the sungss run by two bit thugs and december pots? >> i hear that. >> that's a valid point. because the united states is currently in control until 2015, it gives us the ability to maneuver and put together a system that not only works for our country and our businesses but also for the broader globalized world. >> we're flat out of time. we'll continue this debate in the future. it is such an important issue. thank you both for your time. >> good news for small businesses. the small business administration is running a new grant program up to $100,000 to support, i should say, technology driven small business. it will award grants to state and local economic agencies and universities through month of mid-april. after being grounded by budgeted cuts, some famous flyers are back in the air. we'll have that story when we come back. this is for you.

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the blue angels are back after a year on the ground due to budget cuts. there are more than 30 air shows this year. fox news sunday coming up next. i'm chris wallace. more than a week after that malaysia airlines flight vanishes, it is now turned into a criminal investigation. as the search moves hundreds of miles to the west, there is confusion over data pings from the plane. investigators look into the possible of sabotage or hijacking. we'll have a live report on late-developments and talk with the chair of the house homeland security committee, michael mccaul and peter