if you're deed oteed off, we wa know. ms. megyn is next, please remember the spin stops here, we are definitely looking out for yo you. big news breaking tonight in the search for the missing malaysia airlines jet, welcome to "the kelly file," i'm megyn kelly. moments after we left you the other night, evidence came out saying that this plane was deliberately diverted. as we zero in, the investigators are looking into the backgrounds of the pilots and crew on board. and then, the report suggests that the pilots flew below radar as it headed north, towards asia, or south over indonesia. adding to the suspicions who was flying the jet and just what was

their goal? but as officials quietly confirmed that it looked more and more like a hijacking, the important element of the hijacking fell apart. hours ago, malaysian airlines came out and corrected the timeline of this flight. contrary to what the asian defense minister said this week, the airline now said the plane's two communication systems may have shut down simultaneously. not sequentially, 14 minutes wat apart as we were told last week, now the time limits, the 14 minutes for the transponder was important to the theory that this was not a big catastrophic failure but was purposely done by somebody on board shutting down the contact systems one by one. tonight, we'll be joined by an airline pilot, a former fbi agent as well as a former deputy

defense system aviation expert. we begin our coverage tonight with michael schmidt, a reporter with "the new york times." michael, thank you, we learned you will come out with more news which will break. we'll keep standing by if you can talk about it. i want to talk about the latest news as documented by the times and now this reversal and the malaysian airline coming out and saying we cannot be sure that these two communication systems were shut down sequentially as opposed to all at one time. what are you hearing? >> well, the malaysians have not done themselves any favors over the past ten days. they initially said very little up until saturday. and now that they're out there talking, they don't have a lot of credibility because they haven't said anything until this point. and because of that they're going back and forth, and

whatever something like that happens, the facts are difficult to know in realtime. and such, but i think the problem is up until saturday we didn't hear a lot from them. and now that we're hearing from them they're going back on different things. so i don't think that gives people a lot of >> you broke news late last week about the flight path. and this information now opens the door to more consideration of a catastrophic failure, and if the systems went down at once, we're not saying they did, they may not have gone down sequentially as reported earlier. you reported after this plane shut down, this plane did a u-turn, descended to 25,000 feet, continued flying westward, five to seven hours. has any of that changed? >> well, to the point of mechanical failure, if there was mechanical failure, why is it

that the plane went back and forth over malaysia? why is it that that happened? and why wasn't it that you know, the plane if it had just blown up and just go down on the path that it was going on its way to china, why didn't it just continue in one direction out to sea, and eventually end up in the ocean? so the plane moving back and forth as it does so severely, i think led investigators and let the malaysians and the u.s. officials looking at this to conclude or to believe that one was controlling it at that time. >> and so your reporting continues to be that the strong consensus among the authorities involved right now is that this was what? >> that there was foul play here. i think that they all sort of feel there was foul play here. and the interesting thing is that if you talk to american law enforcement officials they say they're pretty owe we-- they th

there was not terrorism involved here. so that sort of lends itself to one or two people who wanted to bring this plane down and sort of did so. this is not traditional terrorism, as they say, if this was terrorism, the paradigm has changed. there was no chatter leading up to it, there has not been a lot of chatter since then. so everybody is still puzzled and there is not a lot we know. >> michael, thank you, we'll keep you standing by for the breaking news. we'll bring in our panel now, former ntsb member, an airline pilot who currently flies the boeing triple 7, and jonathan gilli gilliam, who served as a navy seal, a former air marshal. let me start with you, you were on the panel saying you believe it was mechanical failure, once again the point that michael raises if it was mechanical failure and everything stopped working at once how do you explain the u-turn and the

satellite pings that they say it was this jet. and they're talking to the ntsb. they're talking to the faa. they're talking to the military authorities out there in malaysia and they're saying it was not a mystery. it was this jet heading west over malaysia. >> i still have issues with that part of it. you know that this data has been er erroneous in a lot of ways. but if you want to go back to that i still contend that the mechanical issue occurred from the standpoint that now we know the system was not systemically shut down. >> we don't know that. >> we know for sure -- >> before we thought for sure it was shut down, one system at 1:07, the next system at 1:21 a.m., we don't know when it happened. it could have happened at 1:21 or could have happened after. >> correct, if there was something occurring -- the electronics and engineering

compartment. >> which we have video of and we'll show it to you in a bit. >> that systemicattically -- >> it is a fast growing thing. >> the crew may have noticed something going wrong. >> this is what the belly of the airplane looks like, circuit breakers and so on. >> that is it. you know, who knows, i've been trained on the airplane but i don't know what is downstairs. in four years i haven't been down there more than twice. >> but again, how would there be -- if you accept that they're right. that the plane did a u-turn and flew west five to seven hours how can that be explained mechanically. >> there was confusion in the cockpit, they were starting a check list, the check list that

they thought was appropriate as that airplane started to shut down electronically, the flight control systems were acting weird, and then the electronic check list, they had to refer to a standard paper check list which may be more abnormal and very difficult to contend with. so they're attempting to turn the plane around, all this is unfolding and more of it becoming a bigger issue -- >> it flew five hours on auto pilot? >> it is possible, who knows? >> let me bring in john, a former ntsb investigator, what is your theory? >> i don't like that theory, i'm open to the investigating -- >> why don't you like it? >> the cascading -- it was a little off base the way the plane was disconnecting itself. however, if there was a fire like he said all bets are off in what direction they could go.

>> what do you make of the time line? the way this went down as we know it right now, is at 1:19 a.m., the co-pilot signed off with a casual all right, good night. that is i guess unusual. that sounds so casual. >> well, but you know, i very often -- when i greet a controller, i say good evening, good morning. >> you don't make anything of it at all -- >> absolutely, i think there was a space between all right and good night. i think there was something it we missed from the co-pilot that the pilot responded to. >> so at 1:19 a.m., all right, good night. then at 1:21 a.m., the transponder went off. then at some point the acars communication that was in the belly of the plane was turned off. we don't know when. but does that time line tell you anything? >> it tells me that the data we received from the malaysian government is all over the place. >> but what about the fact that two minutes after he signed off

the transponder turned off? two minutes after. what does it suggest? >> it certainly would suggest somebody reached down and turned off the switch. >> all was calm, no chaos on board, it certainly seems a pilot was involved. would two minutes be enough to get the pilots under control, the cockpit under control? turn off the transponder? >> well, we strongly suspect that in malaysia, they are not very disciplined with the cockpit doors, we are very disciplined with it. >> but if they turned off the transponder, let's say in that two minutes they were overcome, the transponder doesn't shut down all communications, right? the pilot could still grab the communication systems and say may day, alert, right? that system -- is that the acars system that --

>> it is a separate radio, we have vhs commonly on the airplane. >> do we know the system that lets them communicate with the traffic controller was shut down? >> no. >> that is a material part. >> there was a mechanic on flight. >> that is right, a flight engineer who was on his way to china for assignment. and he would know what is downstairs, he would know where downstairs -- >> would he know necessarily? >> were we talking about a pilot who worked for corporate jets -- it has a great reputation, i don't know how he would know the schematics and the understanding of the triple 7? >> you're basically saying he can fix a go-cart -- >> i don't mean to demean his

profession, but he would have to know a lot more. >> i will look into how serious they would take this as investigator. and this mystery is putting our investigators on high alert. we're live in jerusalem with concerns on this missing plane. plus, we'll take a closer look as we get our first tour inside the belly of the aircraft, not this particular one, but one like that. we'll show you what it takes to shut down the tracking system. and we're expecting more from our lead guest in moments, stay tuned. want heartburn? when your favorite food starts a fight, fight back fast, with tums. heartburn relief that neutralizes acid on contact. and goes to work in seconds. ♪ tum, tum tum tum... tums!

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because when people talk, great things happen. breaking overseas tonight, growing concerns this this missing jetliner is being converted into some kind of weapon of terror, one of our best allies in the middle east is stepping up concerns that it may now be a target. leland? >> reporter: megyn, the israelis have always been at the front of the terror issues. they have now said they need to identify themselves and the pilots need to authenticate that they are in control of the aircraft nearly two times as far

away as they have in the past. at least one source says they have now moved around some of their air defense missile systems. the threat of the airliner is a very real threat. there is so little they can do about it. let's make it a very real world. first, the map we've seen for so long in terms of where the malaysian airliner could end up, if flight 370, hijacked, could have landed in countries like pakistan, bangladesh, countries inside the indian ocean, if refuelled from there very easy to fly nonstop to israel. this is the key part as it was flying west towards there, the countries it would fly over, iran, saudi arabia, iraq, jordan, all hostile to israel. so even if the israelis spotted this jet heading towards this area on radar they couldn't send up plenties y -- planes to intet it until it reached the israeli

air space, unless it was just a couple of miles, giving the israeli pilots just two to five minutes to be able to shoot the airliner down. no one here right now is saying it is a likely scenario but certainly one they are planning for as one security official told me tonight, until this plane is found we have to view it as a potential weapon. >> wow, leland, thank you. i want to bring in peter brooks, former cia, and our panel is here with us tonight. peter, what are your thoughts on israel facing a threat? >> well, israel is in a very tough neighborhood. and certainly there has been talk in the past like this that could be perpetrated against israel. the thing that is interesting about this, the spectacular nature of this plane disappearing that it raises everybody's alert level. the terrorist plot may not have been the best. but it certainly doesn't mean that it is not dangerous. so this is something that certainly could happen, lot more

logistics involved with it. a lot more planning. they realize that they would have to face a very tough israel air defense system. but certainly will the realm of possibilities of potential targets out there. >> this is videotape that we have obtained that we believe is the two pilots going through security. you can see a brief patdown before they boarded this flight 370. peter, i want to ask you, if you're going to hijack a plane in order to use it against israel why not do it in some place closer to israel so you can just go ahead and attack israel? >> well, there are a lot of plots that are filed, megyn. if it is a terrorist plot or the idea of flying a plane or bags of fuel attached to it into an israeli city. i mean, not all terrorist plots get through. we have had 60 in the united states since 9/11 and only a few have been successful. so maybe it is not the best plan out there. but it certainly is possible if that is the case.

>> what do you make about the reports, al-qaeda considering a plan to take over the cockpit of a plane, a malaysian plane and hijack it very recent ly. >> yes, this came out of london, what they're calling is somebody who gave information as part of testimony involved in their own legal case. their related part of al-qaeda said there were some malaysians involved potentially with shoe bombs and an idea taking over the aircraft. if they had problems getting into the cockpit they could get one of these shoe bombs. this idea goes back a ways, related to richard reid. and al-qaeda ties, a few of them have been arrested on their way to syria, some elsewhere. there is a legacy about al-qaeda after 9/11. there were a number of plots that have been perpetrated out of kuala lumpur, so it is certainly plausible. >> john, i want to ask you, what

are the odds, one of the papers was casting doubt on that. malaysia was 60% muslim, why would al-qaeda try to alienate the them? >>. >> that is certainly a possibility -- >> we in the united states already have experts who know everything they need to know about that. as an investigator i can utilize those individuals as tools to carry out the investigation. >> do you think our government right now knows what happened and they're not sharing it with us? >> no, the titanic went missing in 1812, we didn't find it until 1985. what is interesting, when he was talking about that. sochi games were not that far back. there was chatter about a shoe bomb at that point. a shoe bomb can be used as a

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. there is breaking news now, big news from "the new york times," moments ago a story posted with new evidence that this plane appeared to have been diverted intentionally. that u-turn, and was not flying off on auto pilot, at least not at that u-turn point after some mechanical problem. back with us now, reporter michael schmidt who broke this report. way to hold it right until the c-block, michael. all right. let's get right down to brass

tacks, the u-turn you said had to be made by a pilot. >> well, it is a little difficult to explain, so let's take it slowly. basically the first turn that this plane took off of its path was done by a computer system on the plane. it was not done manually by a pilot. >> what does that tell us? >> now, that computer system can only do that if someone on the plane or someone shortly before the plane took off program med that into the plane. so that means that whoever did this had to have known what they were doing with the plane. this is not just someone on the plane who grabbed control of it and took it in one direction. whoever was on that plane that caused this to happen had to have programmed it into the plane, or it could have been programmed in before it ever took off. >> so there is no question in your mind, according to your

reporting, that the u-turn was deliberate. that this was no accident. it was not some catastrophic event that somehow led the plane to turn. someone made a decision to turn that aircraft? >> look, it is all very early. so you know, this is what we know right now. and it could change as we have learned more. but basically what this shows is that whoever moved this plane and why it did this turn was because the plane did it itself, but the plane only could have done it if someone had re-programmed it. and this information was relayed back to the ground before everything was turned off. >> wait, wait, what do you mean by that? by a person, a person was communicating it? >> no, i'm sorry, i'm talking here about the information received on the ground. information -- this came from date data received from the ground on this plane. now that system was turned around the same time the transponders were turned off and

the plane lost communication with the ground. >> michael, thank you, very interesting. john, as an ntsb investigator, what does it tell you? >> well, you have to explore every piece of that. every single piece of it. how it got in there. was it perharogrammed from the ground, if you can. what the data stream said, there is probably more information on it. i was going to say it a little earlier that one voice communication, the good night, the little pause -- >> there was a little pause in it. >> the voice spectrum people will do sound analysis and see if they can hear switches. there is a lot of work going on. >> if they get them. >> no, off the tape. >> right, that they can hear themselves. what do you make of "the new york times" reporting on this? >> assuming this is accurate, of course. i still go with my theory because they're talking about so

many key strokes, okay, so let's say it is x, y, z, way point. would you turn a wheel -- >> under this situation i would be on auto pilot so i would do exactly that. >> to program it into the computer next to you that basically tells the auto pilot what you need to do. and what he seems to be reporting is only an experienced pilot with the triple 7 could do that. you agree with that? >> i agree, but i'm going somewhere with this. this could have been a diversion way point -- >> way point is a point of destination? >> it is an imaginary point in the sky which is on a route. but they may have been putting in a diversion way point and trying to go direct to it while they were dealing with a problem. >> and so what you say, catastrophe strikes, they realize something is wrong. they realize they need to get off their route, which at this

point they're over the ocean. it could have been the pilot saying something is wrong, we need to get back to land. >> if you had a catastrophic diversion, would you not have used the wheel rather than taking a way point that you didn't know by heart? >> it depends on the situation, john, yes, if it is serious enough, but we don't know what they were facing. >> and they say the way points punched into this plane were ones that would keep it off of the radar and undetectible by certain monitors. is that possible? nefarious way points -- >> if you put in the point of depd departure, the two to be in collusion. one of the two pilots would go

let's delete that. >> we'll talk more about the pilots, and i want to ask you about the security procedures, the pilots, how carefully do they get checked before they board the aircraft. all right, with this breaking news that the computer sent the plane, perhaps manually, programmed, but that this was a deliberate turn what does it mean for the investigation? and what about that captain and the co-pilot and people on board? how deeply can their paths be dug into this judge napolitano is here. >> plus, we'll take you into the belly of the airplane, who knew how to disable one of the critical tracking systems on this airplane? >> huh...fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yep, everybody knows that. well, did you know the ancient pyramids were actually a mistake?

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first critical turn that missing plane took, the u-turn back across malaysia was programmed in to an on-board computer. someone basically told the auto pilot to reverse its course. this as we get conflicting reports about those critical communication systems and when they were shut down. trace gallagher picks up that part of the story. trace? >> and megyn, let me just start from the beginning, beginning with the transponder, which stands for transmitter responders. in the triple 7, the transponder is right between the co-pilot and pilot and console. there is a radio dial that goes there left to right just like one in your car and flips off easily. there is also a backup transponder that turns off just as easily. then there is acars, aircraft transmission and reporting system. then there is one on the console. acars sends out a text message every 50 minutes, like a twitter

message, conveying fuel, if toilets are working, now pilots can even use the key pad to send their own text out. some of the acars can be switched off by turning off the vhf, but to dismantle it, you have to go down, remove the circuit box. and as you can see here there are a number of circuit boxes below that airplane. now if the transponder and acars is shut down why is the plane still responding to satellite pings some several hours later, well, sat car has an antenna on top of the plane you see right there. even if no information is being september o sent out when the satellites send out their pings, it is not engaging, saying hello, i'm here. when you get into your car and your blue tooth is trying to find your cell phone it may not

connect. but the bluetooth certainly knows the phone is in the car. it is the same type of situation for that satellite hitting the airplane. >> all right, trace, thank you. part of the breaking news tonight we had reports that investigators were closely checking into the pilot, the co-pilot and the passengers. specifically any passengers with flight experience. but there may be some limits as to how far the investigators can go. judge napolitano is with us now. judge, they seem to be focusing on this pilot and co-pilot for understandable reasons as we now get videotape of them going through security before they boarded. do they have a presumption of innocence? >> yes, they do, the malaysian legal system is generally based on the british legal system which ours is based on, so the rules are generally the same, people are presumed innocent beyond a reasonable doubt. the government can get a search warrant, the standards are the

same. probable cause for illegal activity. now, we have more than enough for a search warrant of the bank accounts and residences of the two pilots. in fact we know that the two search warrants have been executed. they looked at homes and found intriguing things. the more they find, the more they can go back and get search warrants and continue to look deep. the passengers are not fair game unless there is some evidence of some untoward criminal activity. >> or there is a flight engineer on there, but no allegations he did anything wrong and yet wouldn't they be looking at the credit card activity, the day of his connections? yet wouldn't they have the right to do it? >> no, they don't have a right to do it. because having flight experience is not a sufficient trigger to get a search warrant. but the combination of odd behavior by the plane and by the pilots is enough with respect to them. those who are on board with

stolen passports, obviously, they're very game. but just because a person has some knowledge or experience doesn't trigger the ability to intrude into their private lives, certainly for passengers. >> there is still a legal threshold, judge, good to see you. good fto see you. mike, good to see you, what do you make of this breaking news from "the new york times"? >> it would make sense to me, there are plausible alternatives already brought up. the real important thing here, the research is done by people like trace gallagher, not the officials in malaysia. so i think what i see here is something that is very, very messy. and i would have to say that something bad happened in the cockpit of that airplane and they did something to steal a 777. what they want to do with it, i don't know. >> when you say they, are you working under the theory that it is this pilot or co-pilot or

somebody else on board? >> no, the "they" is somebody on board. >> it made this u-turn that was intentional, we're being told by "the new york times" tonight. it was not some things were out of control, the auto pilot did it. someone told the plane to go back. that happened. according to earlier reports when it happened the plane suddenly ascended to 27,000 feet, and suddenly descended to around 23,000 feet and followed a path that was almost undetectible for five hours. when you hear that as a lay person you think that somebody is up to no good. and what am imissing? >> you're not missing anything. i think somebody clearly was up to no good. it is like what was just said about the cockpit door discipline. anybody could have broken into the cockpit door.

it could have been a plan like 9/11. it was a little too smooth. looks like the pilots might have been involved. the question is what are they going to do and why did they do it in the first place? >> do you buy this theory now, of pilot suicide. even peter king said this could have been a pilot trying to kill himself. my question to peter king, if that was the case, why didn't he just take the jet down right away instead of doubling back. >> i doubt he is calling his insurance company and getting his affairs in order. i think somebody wanted an airplane that could carry a whole lot of fuel, for whatever reason, not necessarily this, i'm afraid of that thing finding us. >> last question before i go. need a quick answer, what do you believe happened to the passengers on board? >> nothing good, very honestly, i don't want to say anything. but i would fear for the worst.

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computer. meaning it was intentional. william la jeunesse spent the day looking into the pilot and co-pilot. he is here with us. >> reporter: as you say, megyn, they are looking into the pilots, the ground crew and finally, the cockpit. let's start there. pilot zaharie shah. married, father of three, a grandfather. a home flight simulator. was it used to fly low as someone suggests or teach someone else how to fly the 777 in case the co-pilot was incapacitated? his pilots, also in question, shah supported democratic reform and had opposition to a political leader who hours earlier was sentenced to five years in jail. here is a picture of that yshah co-pilot, fariq hamid, the report shows the two did not request a flight that day.

hamid had just graduated to the 777, he was 27 years old. it was his voice heard, saying all right, good night. now, he invited two blondes into the cockpit for an hour of smoking. one of those girls called the visit friendly but sleazy. >> at one point, they were so engaged in conversation, he took my friend's hand and said your hand is creased, you're a very creative person, he commented on her nails, stuff like that. >> they are hearing a ping from the flight data recorder, the one thing we do know that we can say this, everybody on board this plane was both a possible suspect and victim. and right now the investigators are trying to separate the two. >> william, thank you. all right, so getting back to the pilots.

if they had wanted to mesabasab i guess when it is the pilot doing it. this supermarket and steal it, what they're saying is, there is no way it went west towards pakistan, pakistan said they didn't see a plane, india didn't see a plane and therefore we should believe that. >> megyn, you never want to let a ridiculous theory lead the investigation or any theory. you want to let the evidence lead it. you let the evidence lead it no matter how ridiculous the evidence is. if it is real you have to follow that. and that was a big telling thing like that, that the pilots didn't request to fly together. so now it could put one of those pilots in there as the actual person that kicked this off. but as the plane turned it went through the up and down scenario. it started to go north. that was the corridor it was going. >> it could have been towards pakistan. >> to say that it would be odd to land a large plane on a

military base in pakistan? that is not odd. and people probably wouldn't even notice that, especially if it is still dark. >> and are we supposed to still be trusting pakistan's word? >> no. >> you investigated these actions, do you think we'll find it? >> we'll find it eventually. >> if it crashed in the indian ocean, the third deepest ocean in the world? >> we'll spend the money to find it. >> would a big wing continue to float and for how long? >> well, you know, the triple 7 has a fuel tank in the vertical fin, and if that was not closed off it could float free. >> would baggage wash up on shores miles and miles away, months from now? >> yes, easily? >> what about over land? any possibility if this thing landed in the jungle in malaysia, would we still find it? >> i think so. >> you think so? would that make it harder or more difficult? >> it is all difficult, all

difficult. >> isn't there a bacon on this plane they should be listening for, why haven't they been communicating with the baceacon? >> the beacon sends off a signal -- you just have to activate it. >> has it gone off? >> it probably has not gone off. >> why hadn't it gone off. >> they dropped the panel from the ceiling -- >> which means what? >> it still could crash and not activate. crash but not -- tear up, crash meaning if you tried to land it in a small field and tore the gear off -- >> if it crashed in the ocean would we be hearing this? >> no, it doesn't travel once it gets in the water. >> okay, more right after the break, much more, and one of the

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. we're back now on our breaking news, our panel is back with me now, mike, i want to ask you finally whether you think if this thing had been intentionally diverted by somebody, and made a u turn and was flying five hours and so on, we are able, any way, via satellite, to figure out its location? is there any way of doing it? >> well, yeah, we spy on the soviets and them on us with satellites to find out what they're doing with their air bases and things like that. so it is possible to question where a satellite might be and where it can discover. look, if they wanted that airplane, they wanted something that had a lot of fuel capacity. so they wanted to do something

with it. it is hard to hide something that big. it is not up on blocks in new york -- newark, they're going to have to do something with it. >> whoever did this, if it was done, would have to have nerves of steel given what this plane did, do you agree? >> oh, absolutely, this is right out of the a james bond novel, nerves of steel to know what to do. how to fly the airplane, where he was going, he had to have co-horts helping him out, and a whole plan to extend beyond malaysia? >> your thoughts on this? >> yeah, it would be nerves of steel, to fly through the terrain -- >> we have india, china, pakistan saying they didn't see anything. you would have to have a lot of people willingly concealing, would you not? or is there a place over there

somebody up to no good would land the plane? >> i'm not qualified to answer that question, but i just can't see the crew doing that? >> what kind of pilot would you have to be in order to do that? >> reckless? >> we talked about it friday afternoon, the home of the pilot? >> my wife and i own an airplane together. it is something we enjoy doing. >> be honest, you guys are pilots, letting the ladies into the cockpit. >> on the ground i would do it. >> but when you see that guy doing it? >> i don't make a big deal out of it. with the security lax if it was done in flight, absolutely? >> none of the pilots we had on friday night seemed particularly fazed by it. >> we do tours of the cockpit on the ground all the time. >> that was a little more than a tour. but we'll be right back with "hannity" at the top of the hour. >> even the mention you made of the 45,000 feet, we have been

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all right, before we go i want to ask the panel, just quickly, raise your hand if you believe this plane was hijacked by somebody. and raise your hand if you think it was the pilots. wow, and if you think it was mechanical failure.

you stand alone on that les, but you may prove to be right. we don't have it yet figured out. and it remains the question of the poor passengers and the crew. and we'll explore that in detriment. we'll det e-- depth. and the missing malaysian airline plane vanished more than a week ago, today, we focus on anyone who had skills, it is reported the last person to give communication to the air traffic controllers, all right, good night, came after the communications systems reporting systems had been turned off. >>