by somebody? and if it was the pilot? and if you believe it was mechanical failure? there remains the question of the poor passengers and the crew. we'll see you tomorrow night at 9:00. i'm megyn kelly. this is the kelly file. detriment. we'll det 's also being reported that the co-pilot who gave the lag communication to air traffic controllers which was by the way, all right, goodnight, that that came after the aircraft's reporting systems had been turned off. joining me now with the latest,

kathr kathr kathryn. >> now the pilot is at the center of the investigation. the chairman of the house homeland security says a fbi team was on the ground after the investigation was formally declared a criminal case. >> there's a little bit of national pride on the part of malaysia, but i would hope they let other experts in to get to the bottom of this. this is too much of a mystery at this point. >> they are nailing down the timeline. air traffic control is told everything is okay. and the next maintenance update scheduled for 1:37 was never sent, strongly suggests it was

shut down. a member of the house intelligence committee says there are intelligence gaps, with a renewed focus on the two iranians who boarded the flight with stolen passports. >> we know how easy it is to get on a flight with a stolen passport, and even though there have been several run throughs on the passenger manifest, they still have not been able to do full investigations on all the passengers on the plane where we could find something out about their background. >> and tonight u.s. officials tell us the uss kidd plans to leave the area within the next day or so unless there's a major break in the kay. >> peter king also said that the suicide scenario makes the most sense. we also discovered that the main pilot of this aircraft was an obsessive follower of this guy

anwar ibrahim. >> it comes down to the hard drives recovered from the pilot and co-pilot's homes. what investigators are looking for here are whether their are signs of premeditation, whether the men were getting their affairs in order or whether there was an indication they tried to wipe those computer hard drives in an effort to conceal evidence. >> we know in his own words last year, that the pilot, saweary shah made this video. >> this is a youtube video that i made as a community service after learning a lot from youtube and forum and wickipedia, regarding the

household air conditioning unit. >> what do you think? are they looking at that closely? >> they're looking at the youtube video very closely and also in the context of the other social media postings that he's made. he's a self-declared aviation geek and he also shows in that video an aviation simulator, a high understanding of electronics. these systems were systematically shutdown, and one of the questions is whether the satellite link was disabled. and that's a high threshold to cross, but someone with his skill set might have been able to do it. >> what about the wearing of the democracy is dead shirt? and that he attended a trial of

the ibrahim guy. >> we have not been able to confirm that. but it goes to the malaysian government to try to portray the sabotage of the aircraft with some tie to the opposition. i think we need more evidence than just that he attended the trial. >> we know that they've been looking for those with aviation skills. they apparently found one passenger that had them. do we know anything else about that passenger. >> what we know about the passenger is that this is someone with a flight engineering background. it was not clear to me whether the individual was actually on the flight or whether there may be a second individual who was part of that ground crew that's a person of interest to the investigators. >> good work, kathryn. >> thanks for having me. >> joining us are kathleen

banks. i am concerned about anybody who has any fanatical views. and especially, if the malaysian media reports are correct and he attended this trial of the anwar ibrahim and wearing a democracy is dead shirt that his state of mind might not have been where it should be when he flew. >> it's a little convenient for the malaysian government to be pointing the finger this quickly and it is to their advantage since he supports the opposition. what i will agree on that it is quite concerning that in the hours before a red eye flight like this, what we would call an all-night flight. it's a long flight. it's an international flight. these are all things that would lead to a crew wanting to get as much rest as possible before the flight. so if it is true that he was at

a court hearing that day, that is, i don't know if i would call it suspicious, but that's a little -- >> there's other signs that we have. let me bring robert mark into this. you're a pilot. we know that the triple seven that the pilot has the ability to turn off the transponder, but all the other communications were turned off as well. and it flew to 45,000 feet, which this plane is not designed to fly at, then it went down to 22,000 feet. it was not on automatic pilot. somebody was controlling it, based on that data, right? >> it certainly seems so. but let's be clear. we've seen so much misinformation coming out of malaysia in the past ten days that it's difficult to know which are the real facts and which are convenient. >> other communications would

have had to been turned off manually? you're saying no? >> from the beginning, one of the things that i've maintained and it's just a brieelief. there's a very good chance this could be a mechanical failure. they don't have any idea how they can say how malfunction is ruled out at this point. >> let me ask you this. when we see that it got so far off course -- >> maybe. >> well, i guess. that seemed to be pretty well confirmed by the different satellite pickupis that they ha. >> i'm not sure i agree with that sean. >> the transponder wasn't necessarily manually turned off.

there's a very good chance this airliner suffered some type of catastrophic event. >> there's only one incident with fatalities and that was in san francisco and declared pilot error. >> there's no disagreement that boeing makes the best airplanes. >> the level of redundancy is three, four times in some places. >> there's no disagreeing with that. but like i said earlier, i mean, we have seen so much smoke and mirrors, so many places that we've been led that are actually not verified. i mean, even that mention you made before of the 45,000 feet, we've been hearing that for i think three or four days now. and to what i have found, the asian or i'm sorry, the malaysian group does not have the capability of that kind of altitude finding on the radar

that they were using. and the data blocks, as you were saying, if the transponders were turned off, how did they come up with that? we have found so many bits. then we were going to the straighting of ma law ca strait ca. >> triple sevens do not disappear into thin air. there has to be some data. this plain was way off course and early on in this flight that the communications were shut down. >> airliners do disappear, and they have since the beginning of commercial aviation. there are many missiysteries th have never been solved. >> this is 2014. >> there's nothing that i want to believe more than this

airplane was hijacked and is safe somewhere. >> i just want the truth. >> as a pilot and who trains for the unbelievable to happen, we are way to quick to write off -- >> this is ten days. nobody is being quick here. >> you said you wanted the answers and you wanted the truth. and we all want that. and we want it to be the real truth though. >> i want the truth. i blame the malaysian government and the airlines in part for their very slow sharing of information if you will. thank you both. also coming up tonight, we have a lot more on the missing malaysian plane and why some are saying u.s. authorities need to get involves. i also go one on one with bob beckel about what could have happened to the missing aircraft. stay with us. predicting the future is a pretty difficult thing to do.

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alert. investigators are looking into who on board could have diverted the plane. the theories of where the aircraft could be, as well as the next steps in the investigation, that remains unclear. nobody has answers. >> i don't believe that this airplane crashed. i do believe it was hijacked. i do believe it landed someplace, and i would start first looking in pakistan. >> two scenarios are here. one is that the plane landed in the ocean and ran out of fuel, the other is that it landed in a country like indonesia where it could be used later on as a cruise missile, as the 9/11 hijackers did. >> hijacking has to be considered and the investigation, they could have been working with the fbi. they could have worked with interpol. but instead, they've basically kept things to themselves.

>> and the mystery widen, joining me now is mike baker and christopher voss. hijacked? landed in pakistan? ran out of fuel? cruise missile? planes like this really don't go missing that often. your reaction. >> no, they don't, but the only truth there is everything you said, all those scenarios, all those possibilities have to be left on the table. we don't have the conclusive evidence to take anything off the table, including the idea of a catastrophic mechanical failure, but you have to life it on there. >> why do you have to leave it in that direction? i see it moving more in the direction of pilot suicide. >> oh, no, that's what i mean. is i mean you can take the mechanical failure slowly off the table. from the data we're seeing it does appear that this thing was under somebody's control.

ever since this got started, the only common thread hear since the beginning of this unfortunate incident is you have very few options, you have mechanical failure, terrorism for some form or pie plot action. that hasn't changed. all these things that we have been hearing from the malaysian government shouldn't be a surprise. the fact that they didn'in chri not a surprise. very nationalistic government. so we shouldn't have expected they would somehow be transparent and open to might cooperation. but it's very disappointing, and on a number of fronts in terms of their performance, this has been the number one issue here has bnt failure of the malaysian government to act responsibly. >> from the fbi perspective, what should be happening? what hasn't happened at this point? ten days, i imagine it getting more difficult by the day.

>> it does get more difficult by the day. when twa flight 800 went down in the mid '90s off new york, that was the largest investigation in the history of the fbi. and this is no shortage in the aye normity of this investigation. and malaysia's a much smaller country with much fewer resources. so it's not surprising that they're having trouble with this. they've never had to cope with anything like it before. and the fbi's got good relationships in the region. they've been plugged into this very early on. and getting a lot of help from the united states and the fbi is a lot more difficult and that's limited by malaysia's ability to get themselves organized. i don't think it's malicious. i think it's more chaos than anything else. >> what about the possibility of pilot suicide? i want to go back to some of the

things we're learning about the pilot, that he may have attended this trial of this guy ibrahim. i don't care what airlines they get on, i don't think i'd want a pilot who had controversial, extreme views getting in the cockpit. what do you think? >> i think we have to be a little careful there. because ibrahim and the people's justice party are pro.ants of open elections. >> i agree that he was living under oppression, but that's not the point. the point is he went to the trial. could have been upset, hours earlier. that concerns me. >> no, that's absolutely true. and to the point of what can be done during the course of this while you're looking for any physical evidence is all the investigative steps that you take. and part of that is tearing apart the lives of the pilot,

co-pilot and the crew. when you've got a multi-national issue here, imagine trying to get the chinese to be transparent in providing very specific data about all the passengers that they had on that flight. so this is, as he said, this is a very, very difficult issue. and i agree. i don't think that the malaysians have been deliberately vdeliberate ly evasive. i think they've just been unprofessional. >> christopher, they apparently flew for many hours after what point we thought they had flown in a direct that was not part of the flight plan with transponders and communications shut off like this. it doesn't, it adds up that this was done deliberately. it doesn't seem that this is mechanical to me. >> well, it certainly has all the earmarks of a lot of elaborate planning, not just deliberate, but very elaborate, very complicated which would

have taken quite some time to think through, to envision. and consequently, because of that, as you're looking at the pilots' behavior, their recent lives. you're not looking at technically recent triggers. you're looking at an accumulation of things that have happened over the years to cause him on the track. what you would be looking for recently, if this was suicidal, is you would be looking for behavior that was consistent with someone who might have put their affairs in order or some sort of change in behavior. so the investigators are going to be looking four thar that. >> reports that the family had recently moved out, could that be it? >> any sort of change in behavior from their normal life and normal daily function. whether it be positive or negative. our investigation continues

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that the uss kidd will leave the indian ocean. here with us is bob beckel. i don't know what to make of this except my suspicion is pilot suicide at this time. but who knows. >> there's so much misinformation about this. part of this is the malaysian government to blame. >> and the airlines. >> most of the information we've got has come from news sources. but i find it interesting whether they turned off those transponders before he said good-bye. >> apparently he did it just before he said good-bye. >> somebody turned off the transbo transponders. they didn't want to be known. they found a mockup of the plane in the pilot's house. and also the engineer who knows a lot about this. there's three people in the cockpit. if a guy wanted to commit

suicide, it means he would have had to overcome those two guys. they were all complicity together and wanted to commit suicide together. there is some information there bass some fanaticism on the part of one of these people, but we don't know. now you've got a territory that's seven times the united states. >> the transponder had to be turned off manually because there's two of them. it flew for hours afterwards. it had these wild fluctuations in terms of its altitude. >> it went down 5,000 feet. i don't know how the satellite can tell it went down to 5,000 feet. >> remember, the engines are sending back information all the time. >> it wasn't the rolls-royce enginis as much as the plane. at 45,000 feet, you know, air comes out, oxygen. that's only good for 15 minutes.

so the question is, was everybody killed? because the pilots had oxygen that lasted longer? that's a big drop. then to fly at 5,000 feet takes a very skilled pilot to do that. here's what worries me. in the end, we may never know. >> what about this guy's soeshs, right or wrong, but his obsession with this ibrahim guy? >> that's a big part of this. i've been accused of being very rough on the muslims. >> you have? >> yes, i have a little bit. and this is a heavily, heavily, muslim country. there is some people who feel very strongly about their faith. whether this pilot did or not, seems to me would you be awfully careful if you are an airline being -- >> this guy has 18,000 hours. >> there's no indication he

wanted to kill himself. >> there's one report that his family left him the day before. could have been a heightened emotional state. >> we don't know. but we're speculating this. >> kind of like how you get yes motional every time you see obama. >> every time i see you is more the point. i get emotional every time i see obama. i'm very happy for him. >> okay. nice to see you. >> is that the end of it? >> that's the end of it. >> just as soon as i say obama you cut me off. >> that's the deal. >> you throw your football then. a report on the latest developments for the search for the missing plane. what if the plane landed safely? there's a lot of possibilities about where it could have touched down. it's going to blow your mind. greg gutfeld's coming up. don't miss an episode, record

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and this is a fox news alert as the search for the missing malaysian airliner jet continues. investigators are now looking for anybody on board the plane with aviation skills that could have diverted the plane. >> the investigation into who diverted the plane is now refocusing on the passengers and crew. investigators have already searched the home of the pilot and co-pilot and taken away a simulator for analysis. they didn't request to fly together on the flight. they say it was the co-pilot who gave the words all right, good night shortly before the plane

disappeared from radar screens. it's important as it puts the co-pilots in the cockpit. background checks are being done on the passengers and ground crew. it's believed one of the passengers was a malaysian flight engineer. satellite data from the aircraft suggests it kept flying for several hours along or southern arc. in the south, australia is sending planes into the indian ocean to look for the plane. to the north, the arc stretches between kazakhstan and thailand. and they are requesting radar from 11 countries to see if the

plane reached any of them. with more from our great, great american panel, also ralph reed is with us and jedediah bila and congratulations on your new book. amen, we need it. >> thank you, sean. >> we're going to talk about this in a second. but ten days, planes don't go missing. transponders don't get shut off. the altitude shifts that we're reading about, none of this happens. why is this happening here and we have no answers here ten days later? >> i'm scared. here i am just a civilian. we don't have information ten days later. but i don't believe it all. our government doesn't know anything? >> i'm not conspiratorial, i

bri believe they know more. >> why hasn't president obama made a statement? >> he's busy putting his brackets together. >> meanwhile, he makes a comment about everybody making fun of him for wearing mom jeans. >> he did wear mom jeans. would you put don in those? >> never. >> but you have to be careful. you have families watching this and had loved ones on that flight and are very concerned. they can't just come out -- they have to be sure. you have people waiting on their every word, trying to see, is there hope that these people are still alive. i feel like if they're going to come out with something that's going to come from the government and be official. >> what about mcinerney suggesting that this plane could have landed in a place like pakistan, is that possible? >> at this point you can't rule anything in or out. but what's frightening is when

you think about we're 13 years out from september 11. and you've got people with stolen passports boarding international flights. and we're now told by our security agencies that more than two-thirds of the countries on this planet are at risk for that kind of conduct. it is amazing to me that after the screw ups, intelligence and otherwise, that led to september 11, that we still don't have that sharing of information. a >> say there was a military pilot or person who knew how to fly under the radar, landed somewhere. but what if, and they're planning on using that against us or someone else. that's why we do have to know what happened. >> we can only make comments on what we've been told. >> we're being told nothing basically. we don't know where it is. >> we don't know what direction. it could have gone here, there. >> i think at this point, it

looks a heck of a lot more like a hijacking or an inside job. >> something nefarious. >> than mechanical error. >> that's a potential issue. i think another potential issue, sean, as somebody who flies internationally, myself, i would love to tell you that these cockpiting are truly secure. >> they're not. ask but on an international flight, if a pilot comes out. all they do on those international flights is the flight attendant puttings a car. >> that's all they do. >> people are blaming the pilot. that's not really fair, but at the same time, if he did, don't you think something would have come up in the water if it went in the water somewhere? >> he wears a shirt that says

democracy's dead. he goes to the trial. i'm worried about his state of mind before he got into the cockpit. >> that raises the question, can we prevent everything. could we have prevented something like this or another instance? we can't be all powerful and be everywhere. we've got a great debate when we get back. duck dynasty versus bill maher. >> republicans are demanding ransom for doing their job. >> you're going to love this video, it proves just how much msnbc news worships the president and repeats everything he says.

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all right. welcome back to hannity. a powerful new film entitled "god's not dead" and features duck dynasty starring. >> what do you say to people who are offended because you openly pray to jesus. >> we're not trying to offend anybody. as far as my friend in jesus, my whole life belongs to god. all this stuff, money, success, even life is temporary. jesus is eternal. >> now the robinson's represent one view, bill maher went on the

ram page. >> nobody can blame me when i say this is a stupid country when 60% of the adults living in it think the noah's ark story is true. the thing that's really disturbing about noah isn't that it's silly or immoral, it's about a psychotic mass murderer who gets away with it, and his name is god. hey, god, you know you're kind of a [ bleep ] when you're in a movie with russell crowe and you're the one with anger issues. >> look, one thing is i find liberals, they want to get duck dynasty off the air. i've defended bill maher's

comments for years. turn the dial, don't watch. don't listen. >> i hate to sound like a prophet. but i talk about maher in the book. and i talk about some of his hateful comments. can you imagine if somebody on a network had said that about african-americans, had said that about latinos, women, they would have been off the air, but this is somebody who's compared the catholic church to the taliban, that christians suffer from a neurological disorder. and what really bothers me, sean, is that in hollywood, in popular culture, it's okay to ridicule, denigrate and demean people whose only crime is to believe in the bible. >> you enter this with your husband, he said he was sorry.

you met with the girls from rutgers, now this thing with bossy. >> that's ridiculous with the word bossy. i'm fine with bossy. >> you're bossy. >> you're bossy. you're more bossy than me. >> you're more bossy than me. >> why should he apologize. that's what he believes. the good thing about this country is that you can have these two very different visions. if somebody says something you don't like, people do change the channels. >> there's a whole network out there who's designed to fire people whose political views you don't agree with. >> i actually agree in free speech or diversity of thought. i want bill maher to get on tv and say whatever he wants. >> i defend his first amendment right to say it, but what if you took out the things that he said about christians and said that about jews. >> or muslims.

>> or anybody else. the rhetorical violence and stigma sizing people usually precedes marginalizing them in society. i'm not saying he doesn't have a right to say it, but hbo -- >> he says the f word all night too. i used to find him pretty funny, you know. i'll still watch him, but it's more, he's just on this hate bandwagon. really. >> people aren't applauding him. if you listen to that when he's talking about god and saying things, his own audience is not applauding. they don't agree with him, but it's still his right to say it. >> even though you don't like him, he's funny. >> politically incorrect i thought was a much funnier show. the people's business is at

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welcome back to hannity. the liberal hosts over at msnbc news, you have the reverend al sharpton league the charge. you will love this. >> people will lose their jobs. >> people will lose their jobs. >> if you work hard, you can make it here. >> if you work hard, you can make it here. >> that's the bottom line. >> that's the bottom leine.

>> we're becoming a more perfect union. >> we're becoming a more perfect union. >> don't threaten to burn the house down. >> don't threaten to burn the house down. >> we're not focussinged on you. >> we're not focused on you. >> all this would be funny, if it wasn't so crazy. >> yes, it would be funny if it wasn't so crazy. here with us, the member of the five, the author of not cool. that's hilarious. >> yeah, it is. that was president obama's, he was doing it for the hearing-impaired. so he would do it, and al sharpton would just shout it. i applaud al sharpton. how does he still have a career? he's the recipient of entertainment welfare. >> what is entertainment welfare? >> he's on media welfare, how

about that? he has a job when he shouldn't have one. this guy was behind one of the most horrific hoaxes in new york history. how he still has a job is beyond me. >> you're saying because of his past comments, et cetera, i may disagree with you. i am so over, i think what happened with 125th street, they are saying things that are almost unforgivable, but i almost know this is going to ricochet against conservatives. >> they're always going to want to shut down a conservative voice no matter how nice you are. so i say don't be nice to anybody. >> this is an interesting book. i love the cover. it's awesome. >> it's the floating head. >> you have on the back. the answer is not in this glorious head. the hipster elite and the war on youth is real.

>> i ask myself why do people continually do dumb things? they want to be liked. they want to be cool. because we are beholden to people who ascribe value to you that are jerks. the path to cool is always sub version. it's always subverting the traditional values that made families work. it's so easy to say that sucks. that is the definition of cool is to say something good is bad. >> i watch you on red eye and on the five. you're a pretty hip, cool guy. you write smart, icon classic monologues. >> i'm demented. >> you're not demented. >> it's written totally ines prawn toe, in backwards. i don't believe in cool. i believe in good and bad.

cool transcended that vertical good and bad. we do like dangerous and risky things as long as it doesn't happen to us. so we observe these things when they happen to other people. we think it's cool, when it's not good at all. if shakespeare were alive today and read oadiead othey will owe romanticize evil. the fact is, we romanticize david versus glie ath in everything we do. because america's so big, we root for the little guy, even if the little guy is evil. if america was a car. the cool would root for the rust. it's always about undermining the tradition. >> congratulations to you. you have two hit shows.

awesome. that's all the time we have left. don't miss an episode. hannity, the series, set your dvr. fox & friends each weekday morning at 5:00. and don't forget the five. see you back here tomorrow night. this is a fox news alert. there is new chaos and confusion for flight 370, a new time emerges. this new time line is pitting malaysian airlines against the malaysian government. now the confusion surrounds the haunting final words from the co-pilot. all right. good night. now, did that verbal communication by the co-pilot to malaysian traffic controllers occur before someone manually shut down the tracking system or after? now, that depends on who you ask. the malaysian government or the malaysian airline? here is what both agree on. that the last akar transmission was at 1:07 a.m. then at 1:19 a.m. those la