tomorrow we talk about the ukraine with kermit the frog. >> it ain't easy being green. >> also, one of the stars from "pawn stars" will be with us. in the after the show show, the millenials return. see you back here tomorrow. breaking news now. some critical pieces of information into us here at the fox news channel. moments ago, late last night, we're going through right now on flight 370. these are intriguing. officials confirming that data from the pilot's flight simulator had been deleted before the plane disappeared. that is the search for the boeing 777 and 239 people on board entering day 11 with apparently no end in sight or is there based on these new clues. i'm bill hemmer. that's where we start. martha has time with the family. massive mystery. >> i'm heather childers filling in for martha. the focus on the home flight simulator belonging to captain shah. you see it behind him on a

youtube clip he posted on internet. bill: age 53. copilot. age 27. catherine herridge live in washington on this. what are we learn about these files, catherine? >> reporter: good morning, bill. malaysian authorities confirming a piece of evidence that the a review of the 52-year-old pilot. saw hairy shah's simulator were deleted. that the forensic reviews, simulator was focused on evidence of premeditation that deleted files were red flag. malaysia's acting transport minister telling reporters a short time ago about this finding. >> some data was deleted from the simulator and we're working to achieve this data. i would like to take this opportunity to say that the passengers, pilot and crew remain innocent until proven otherwise. >> reporter: investigative source tells fox news with

direct access to the simulator, fbi technicians have the ability to retrieve deleted files. review of pilot's and copilot's emails did not turn up any evidence of premeditated plot. bill: what is on the files we're hoping to hear. officials in thailand picked up the plane on radar. did not tell anyone for nine or 10 days. how significant is that or not, catherine? >> reporter: well, it does appear significant, bill. the thai radar data turned over in the last 24 hours raises questions about the delay and why an unidentified aircraft was allowed to continue flying unchallenged. at 1:2 a.m., eight minutes after the transponder went dark, thai military radar detect ad plane flying in the opposite direction of three set of's planes and turning right to the strait of malacca. another indicator it was 370

because the transponder was not transmitting when asked why it took so long to release the data, a thai government minister the object or flight did not present a direct threat and was never in their airspace. bill: when you get more come back, catherine herridge. leading the coverage in washington on that. heather has more. >> bombshell from former faa spokesman scott brenner. he says i now believes the plane was intentionally taken off course. listen. >> one of the pilots clearly had intention as soon as the plane took off he would take it in another direction. why, i have no idea. it is very clear, the fact that the transponder was turned off. the fact that the aye cars data was turned off. this is 100% clear this copilot or pilot took the plane with the intent of doing something bad. >> you heard him, 100% clear. you heard him say pilots started

changing course 25 minutes into the flight. so were they planning to change the flight plans all along? we'll dig a little deeper. bill: brenner was fascinating on that. we'll talk more what he is saying in a moment. anger and frustration boiling over as you can imagine. some family members had to be forcibly removed from a news conference. watch here. [crying] [screaming] >> they were dragged from the room by hotel security after demanding answers from the government. the families have accused malaysian authorities of withholding information. meanwhile china expanding its own search for the missing plane, deploying nine more ships in the indian ocean, including its largest. its most sophisticated rescue ship. the majority of the 239 passengers aboard the plane,

they are chinese nationals. the search area has now expanded. listen to this, to nearly three million square miles, or about the size of australia. so it is more on that, let's go to bill with the map. bill: we mentioned scott brenner, right, heather? former spokesperson for the faa he was on with megyn last night at 9:00. if you listen to the information he is now reporting this whole scenario now changes especially during the 1:00 a.m. slot. remember for days we thought the plane had taken a sharp west turn. it went this way? bremer is saying the following. just to quote him from last evening a nice slow, curve to the west. he continued. these are not dramatic turns. so would not have been the former. it would have been more in this direction. now where does that lead us. this is what brenner was saying. at 1:07 a.m., okay? i will try the best i can with the drawing. depend how much picks up.

scratch that. at 1:07 a.m., okay, the new flight plan was picked up. that is the, that's the communication that the plane sends, satellites and also perhaps back to the airport in kuala lumpur, even to an airport in vietnam or thailand. at 1:19, 12 minutes later, the copilot sound off, all right. good night. remember the nice slow curve to the west now, brenner. dramatic turns. advance it one time. initially serve area, gulf of thailand, south china sea, andaman sea. this area here, 1:067 a.m., if it made a nice slow turn, where did it go? now we have a go to a nice slow turn in this direction. that is one of the working theories right now where the plane could have flown. the other working theory is down here into the indian observing shun off the west coast of australia.

the reason why route number one is not thought to have been the case by all experts you talk to because of all the countries you see situated over the flight path, right? granted, it is of the middle of night here but they believe someone at some airport along the route would have picked up a signal from the plane. mike mccaul says the airbase in bagram, afghanistan, certainly would have picked this up. now the theory takes you down into the southern indian ocean off the coast of australia. this is way down there too. perth, australia, on the western coast of australia, they're looking at an area 1600 miles south and west of australia. an area that covers 117,000 square miles in the indian ocean. where does this leave us now? brenner was talking about the copilot signing off? that was the last word we heard at 1:19 in the morning. if the flight plan was changed, at 1:06 a.m., a minute before it

started drifting to the west or changed before it left the ground or even taking off that night at 12:41 a.m. we're trying to piece this together. brenner is a very, very good source on this we'll talk a little bit more about that. >> what is on the deleted files? bill: that we do not know. whether or not that is even relevant in this entire investigation. so whether we get it, we'll pass it to you. >> all right. meantime we do have other breaking news to talk to you about this morning. toyota and the justice department reportedly nearing a $1.2 billion settlement in order to avoid criminal charges. it all stems from a series of mysterious acceleration incidents linked to 13 deaths. stu varney, host of "varney & company" on the fox business network joins us right now. steve or stu, what is the latest on this? >> well, heather, this is the unwanted acceleration problem that burst into the headlines four years ago. remember there was a lexus speeding down the highway,

120 miles an hour, out of control, could not be stopped. one of the passengers, came out with an anguished call for help describing what was going on inside this out of control car. the family members by the way were eventually killed in that crash. well toyota, at the time said, it was the floor mats, jammed underneath the gas pedal. it wasn't a structural problem, an engineering problem or a software problem. no, it was the mats jammed underneath the gas pedal. the nhtsa agreed with that saying that the mats were indeed part of the problem. fast forward to today, toyota faces this massive billion dollars plus fine, not because of liability for any deficiencies in the design of the car but because they did not disclose the full nature of the problem in a timely fashion. it was a disclosure problem as opposed to a mechanical problem they are being fined for. disclosure is the issue, not the structural problems of the car itself. >> speaking of disclosure and

timing of it, gm also having problems of its own. how does this affect that? they're dealing with what, 13 deaths related to a defect? >> yes. gm is dealing with a very, very similar situation. they have got an airbag problem and an ignition key problem on over 3 million of their models. there have been deaths linked to this problem. they face exactly the same deal as toyota. that is, delay and full disclosure. this problem with general motors goes all the way back to 2001 and the disclosures come in dribs and drabs. that is not good enough for the authorities. they face a criminal investigation. mary barra, the new ceo of general motors, has gone out there saying, look, something went terribly wrong. she is facing the problem but she is, general motors, is under a criminal probe by precisely the same manhattan u.s. district attorney who filed the charges against toyota. >> we'll see if toyota set as precedent what will happen. stu varney, thank you.

bill: 11 minutes past. we're just getting rolling here. incredible video in a moment of a very close call. >> oh. man. bill: show you what happened next. >> can you imagine? plus, this. a deadly helicopter crash near a u.s. landmark. people at the scene now telling us the harrowing details as a news copter fell to the ground. bill: major international story as to what is now. russia's leader one step away from taking crimea. would the u.s. do anything? karl rove on that. >> the president's appearing to be weak and feckless and it is always dangerous when an american chief executive, think jimmy carter, appears weak and feckless.

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heather: two people are dead, another in critical condition after a news helicopter crashed in downtown seattle. the chopper was taking off from the roof of a tv station near the space needle when it crashed, landing on top of cars

that were on the street. the pilot and the news photographer, they were both killed. a man inside the car, he was able to get out but he was badly burned. witnesses say that it was obvious the helicopter was in trouble. >> i didn't see the chopper go down but i certainly heard it. but it was evident that something was wrong. i didn't hear anything until the crash and the explosion. i turned around. saw that it was clearly a chopper that it was in flames. >> i heard a boom. and engine sounded a little bit heavy so, i heard the boom and i looked up and two seconds later the flames started spreading out. >> i saw the guy coming out of the car with his body on fire and i saw also the truck that was hit. and then chaos. heather: seattle's mayor meantime says the city is now reviewing rules for helipads. bill: got a lot of breaking news now on ukraine as well. a lot to move through already

today. vice president joe biden traveling in lithuania saying today the u.s. will react and respond to any aggression on behalf of russia against nato allies. those remarks come as tensions reached new heights in ukraine. two people dead after pro-russian forces stormed a military building in crimea. in moscow vladmir putin held celebrations welcoming crimea back into the russian fold. he also had pointed words toward the u.s. yesterday. karl rove, former senior advisor, deputy chief of staff to president bush and fox news contributor. karl, good morning to you and welcome back here. i was watching your interview last night with greta. we're trying to figure out where the leadership is on this before we go there, karl, there is a report that the u.s. is suspending operations of syria's embassy in washington and other areas around the world. russia says it is worrying. it is also disappointing. british prime minister david cam ran says we should kick russia

out of g8. i don't know if russia wants to be in the g8. where are we coming with u.s. response and u.s. leadership on what is next? >> syrian embassy closing may be unconnected to the situation in ukraine directly but what it may indicate that either the united states government is fed up with syria's intranssy against in handing over its chemical weapons stocks. or they may have detected some kind of a inappropriate activity at the embassy here and a threat from the embassy here, intelligence threat, causing them to shut it down. but it will, it is a further indication, this is a client state of russia, syria. and it is a further evidence that the russians are, you know, acting often in contrary to u.s. interests. i thought the more important thing was cameron's statement. first of all that the fact that the british prime minister has to say it before the president of the united states says it is a problem. but we ought to move quickly to take the g8 and restore it to

the g7. that is to say the seven largest economic powers in the world. the russians are not among the 8th largest in the world and they ought to be thrown out of it as a sign of western reaction to what he has done. he was about ready to host the next meeting of the g8. i find it impossible to contemplate that the united states and germany and france and great britain and japan and china, well, maybe china would want to go to a g8 meeting hosted by vladmir putin. yes, we ought to restyle the g8. end the g8 and recorns statute the g7. it is the least we can do. and i emphasize the least we can do, in the face of this incredible, you know, takeover by the russians of part of the ukraine. bill: you know, i thought what putin said yesterday was striking. we talk about american exceptionalism here. he kind of went right after that. he basically said to paraphrase, the americans think they're

unique. they think they're special. and he is talking to, he is talking to his people over there. >> right. bill: he is talking to his lawmakers there at the kremlin. you like the idea of putting fighters in the baltics and in poland for these military exercises. you like what the president has done on that. a lot of other things you're not happy with so far but you say, send a military mission to kiev now and say what do you need? what do you want? will that happen? and what is the effect of that? >> not so far. and look, one of the reasons why the new ukrainian prime minister came here to the united states was to say, we need support. we need economic, diplomatic and military support and the united states ought to be willing to, it will send a signal to the russians that we'll hopefully dissuade them. look in 2008 when russia moved into georgia with the desire, lavrov told secretary of state condi rice, our goal is to replace the democratically elected government and

re-establish georgia as part of the russian federation. and the united states took the georgian troops, who were fighting in afghanistan, combat hardened veterans and flew them on u.s. planes back to georgia. that sent two messages to the russians. it sent two messages to putin. one, you will not face some militia, you will face battle hardened, battle tested georgian troops. second thing it said the united states government is logistically support the georgians. this helped back off the effort. he did not march russian troops and tanks into trek blisssy. he got two little slivers of the country. the united states being strong now is going to discourage putin. weakness encourages putin. when we sanction 11 people, most of whom have nothing to do, are not central players in this drama, that is all we can do, the europeans sanctioned 21 people. the united states could only do less than half of that. there is a reason why they're

laughing at us. in the face of putin, is a tough guy. weakness insites him to act further. bill: listen, i know you also believe that if this continues, it will lead to enormous other issues, perhaps even bigger issues around the world in other places. >> right. bill: karl, thank you, we'll pick it up there next time. karl rove. we appreciate it. here's heather. heather: we have a winner in the latest megamillions jackpot. two people in fact, $200 million richer. we will tell you where the winning tickets were bought, bill. bill: chris christie getting tough questions at a town hall meeting in you. >> jersey but the governor not backing down. >> i write the budget. i don't need to read your budget statement. medicaid has been expanded in this state. i'm sorry you favor obamacare and i do not. >> i favor -- >> that is the way it goes. [applause] (knocking)

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gaps in the radar coverage, right? >> reporter: yeah, there are big dead zones in the coverage, heather. and that's because the new satellite-based systems are very expensive. so companies and countries rely on radar and a big reason that this search has been so difficult can really be explained by one of the most simple lessons from grade school, the world is round and the curvature of the earth makes it very hard for radar to pick up anything that is not visible on a straight line. >> radar works, it's for the most part air traffic radar and other kinds of radars that are trying to find airplanes are mostly line of sight. there are some over the horizon radars but they're very low frequency and not used that often but normal radars, if you get behind terrain, it is very difficult.

submarines use those thermal layers to hide themselves. >> reporter: most ground radar systems have a range of roughly 250 miles. that is about the distance from d.c. to new york city and heather, aviation experts say a big part of the reason the indian ocean has to little radar coverage is because on a daily basis, just not a whole lot to look at out there. heather: how dot air traffic controllers typically, you know, keep track of what they can't see? >> reporter: it is really blind trust. air traffic controllers essentially, since they can only see so much, they really do rely on the good word of the crew through radio communication to let them pinpoint kind of just, blind trust as you said, where the plane is instead of actually being able to see them. heather: all right. thank you. peter doocy, live for us. bill: a lot of families at the airport in beijing wonder where is it? heather: that is all they want to know. bill: stunning new claims on what happened on that plane. a leading source says he

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bill: 9:31 in new york. if you were watching megyn last night, scott brenner is a former spokesperson from the faa he dropped a bombshell. first brenner. watch. >> according to federal officials involved in this investigation, they're telling me at least within the first 26 minutes of that flight the pilots were already changing the flight path. so what we originally thought was the plane had gone up, basically flying on its original course to bejing and signing off with air traffic control and making westerly turn. we now know within those first 26 minutes they had reprogrammed the flight plan and were already starting to turn west, far before they even signed off with air traffic control. bill: if that is true, did they preprogram in the air? could they have done it on the ground before they possibly took off? let's go through what we believe we know based on satellite communications and what we believe people are turn telling us on the ground.

it took at after 12:41 a.m. in kuala lumpur, malaysia. gets to cruising altitude of 35,000 feet? on its way to 35,000 feet, stop it. you're at 1:07 a.m. the transmission system on board the 777, the acar system. the plane apparently veered west. for a long time we thought it was a sharp angle, what brener is saying, he is talking about slow curve to the west, not dramatic turn, more based on this range what brenner describes. roll it here. that is 1:07 a.m. we move 12 minutes later, 1:19 a.m., the copilot, age 27, not the pilot, the copilot, all right, good night. move it up two minutes now. we can go to 1:21 a.m. and the transponder in the plane top stops working that can only happen on based on a few things. one of them is intentional. if a human being turns the tran

ponder off which there are two on the 777. that is at 1:21 a.m. now you're at 1:22 a.m. thai radar sees the plane somewhere in this location here of thailand, picks up the plane on the radar. it is no longer this sharp, western turn, more of a gradual loop here according to brenner. go forward. thai government came out with this information about 24 hours ago. they see the plane at 1:28 on this new track. go forward again. we'll go more toward the timeline about what we are, 1:37 a.m. acars does not transmit? why is that? something catastrophic or something intentionally on the plane turn off to prevent anyone from locating its distance? now you're 2:15 in the morning. flight 370 last seen on malaysia military radar in the strait of malacca and that island we

talked about a few days ago. we go through the night. at 2:15 a.m. you're at 11:00 a.m. in the morning. the plane was last seen on a satellite. the acars system transmitting information stopped and there is part of a transmission on board the plane that still connects with satellites as it goes, maybe every hour, every 60 minutes. that handshake we talked about at 8:11 a.m., the last handshake apparently took place. where was the plane? we have an aviation attorney and aviation law professor and he is with me now in studio. how are you doing, sir and good morning to you. i thought 24 hours ago i thought the plane was in the ocean. i listened to brenner last night, wow, the story changed again. what do you think about all that scenario? >> what brenner surmises is pretty accurate. he has a good handle on this. knowing that it was a slow turn first of all is significant. a slow turn more likely done by autopilot than by hand flying.

you have to believe at some point somebody reprogrammed the autopilot. that could have been done on the ground prior to liftoff. not uncommon for all pilots to put several routings in their autopilot. the mfs, what they use to input the autopilot could have been programmed three days before they left for all we know. i heard a couple of commentators talk about the pilot would have to see him reinput all that information. bill: would you? >> no, not at all. bill: really? >> not at all. bill: if you're the copilot or pilot or whomever you could do it without the other guy even seeing it? >> absolutely. the pilot read be newspaper. bill: this is 30 minutes in the flight. >> correct. correct. now the copilot goes over and punches in a new routing which is in emmemory in the fms and goes into the autopilot an starts the turn. bill: what about the flight simulate or in the home, how significant could that be if files were deleteed? >> originally i thought it was

not significant. a lot of pilots have flight simulators in their home. i have one in my home, probably not as elaborate as is. we that to practice and be good what we do. however when we talk about files being deleted, depends what is on the files. most of them can be recovered from fbi sources. so if we can recover those files, find out if they were locations, obviously that gives us someplace to look. bill: can one person do all of this or do you need help? >> you know, could one person do it? i guess we could say yes, sir. more than likely there is more to this than one pilot on board the aircraft. bill: one more point, the slow, smooth turn, not the hard right angle we talked about, the slow, smooth turn, what's that tell you? >> it again tells me the autopilot was probably controlling the airplane at that time. it could also tell us that he was trying to drape the turn so no one would notice it. obviously you're going to notice a 45-degree turn, 50-degree

turn. if you're doing something at standard rate, 20 degrees, that plane will go nice and smoothly at dark, 1:00 in the morning, people might not even notice you're turning away. bill: you know the pilots. often times they fly around storms or big group of clouds. i mean could that explain -- >> typically when you fly, even flying around storms, you will fly way point to pay point on airways. if you look at the airway map superimposed what they think the route of it crosses all those airways. it doesn't actually hit way points as it goes around. bill: what does that mean? >> he was going direct to someplace and didn't care about hitting way points as we normally would fly which would be legal way to fly since air traffic control has no know where we're going next. bill: so you know these two possibilities, right, at least have been talked about here among the many possibilities. >> right. bill: one is this route that would have gone toward pakistan or kazakhstan. the other would have gone south deep into the southern part of the indian ocean.

option number two where they're searching in significant way with u.s. and australian assets. do you think that is where the plane went? >> if i knew would i tell somebody. it is hard to tell where he went after that. once he went below 5,000 feet and tried to stay clear of radar -- bill: do we know he went the 5,000 feet. >> that's what we think. there is no transponder on it at this time. any accurate altitude information is lost at that point. they're using radar tracks on tape, trying to triangulate them as best they can and determine poll with altitude. you can't take that gospel. bill: tooks us hundred one years to find the titanic. took us 2,000 years to find noaa's arc? do we find flight 370. >> i think we find flight 370 much sooner than those two things, thank god. i think until then it is the greatest reality show for the year. if we don't know better

approximation where it is it will rear its ugly head. it landed somewhere nicely or will be used on secondary mission or tried to do that and it crashed somewhere. bill: thank you from new york here. aviation professor and aviation attorney with your even simulator that you worked on for many years. thank you, sir. >> thank you, bill. bill: all right. heather: well investors looking ahead to comments from federal reserve chair janet yellen, now time to take a look at the markets right now. there is a live look for you. the dow closed yesterday up 89 points. we will keep an eye on the markets throughout the show for you to see what is happening today. bill: certainly will. heather, talk about a close call, did you see this? wow. check it out. roll it. man, that's a truck going airborne. we'll tell you what sent this truck flying and who was on the side of the road that was just missed. heather: really close.

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bill: some incredible video. an out of control truck going airborne, barely missing a police officer. watch here, side of the road. iowa police say the accident was caused by a semi that ran into the back of that pickup truck, that sent it careening across leans of traffic and just narrowly missing a police officer standing on the side of the road. he clipped the side of the cruiser, the right here quarter panel. incredibly no one was injured from the state of iowa. wow. very, very close. heather: per river ral vision i

think there. republican candidates big and small stepping up their push to win votes by using obamacare as their rallying cry. it's all modeled on congressman david jolly's victory in florida, considered a referendum on the health care law. even in small local races republicans are campaigning against obamacare. >> obama and his allies are pushing obama care and his job-killing energy policy right here in alabama. stand with me, chip beaker and let's tell the washington liberals, enough is enough. >> as attorney general, i will have a special file for washington's bad ideas. texas is an exceptional place. i will fight to keep it that way. heather: alan colmes, host of the alan colmes radio show and fox news contributor and brad blakeman, former deputy assistant to president

george w. bush joining us now to talk about it. a rallying cry against obamacare is that a winning strategy for republicans, brad? >> can't hurt but you have to have more than obamacare. the fact that you're seeing even local candidates now advancing obamacare as an issue tells you something. it tells you that people are hurting even at the local level and that is affecting local races. doctors are leaving towns. hospitals are being shuttered. so this is as much a local issue as it is a national issue. having said that republicans have to be very careful. overpromising and underdeliverring is exactly what hurt bamm care and with could hurt republicans. obamacare will not be repealed but republicans better come up with a strategy of fixing obamacare as long as this president is the president. that is for another three years. heather: alan, we heard the ad by chip beaker. he is running for the state public utility commission. so do you think it's a good idea for folks running for smaller offices to be using this strategy as well? >> i don't know what it would have to do with utility

commission but if you're running in conservative state like alabama or conservative district, don't forget the jolly victory was in heavily pinellas county, very republican district, bill young served for decades. but brad is exactly right. there has to be an alternative. republicans have to come up with new ideas if they're going to change what is already law. they're not going to overturn the affordable care act. by the way a new bloomburg poll shows 64% of the americans don't want to change it or make slight modifications. now that the republicans want to take advice from me, i don't think running against obamacare in of itself will win elections. heather: what i understand, brad, they're already talking about coming up with this cohesive strategy. they're calling it a stronger health care system, a plan for freedom, flexibility and peace of mind. >> yeah. i think the law as we know it certainly can't be substantiated over a long period of time. why? because their model is flawed. they were banking onioning

people, enough of them signing up in order to care for the older people who need care today. what we need to do is open the markets. the way you do that is selling across state lines. is forming groups of insurance. is tweaking the law enough to make it work fore president and revisiting it after that and seeing what other changes have to be made. but certainly as it exists today, obamacare will not work for you, me or anyone else. >> you're going to say it won't work for anyone else. that is just not true that it won't work for anybody. >> it is not going to work, alan, look people on medicaid had medicaid before obamacare was put in. if you're poor you will get help f you're rich you will get best doctors but you can afford it. it is middle class being squeezed in price and access to obamacare. >> 80% of the americans actually are keeping exactly what they had. 20% of the people who either didn't have insurance or making changes because of the affordable care act and most people are getting to like it. five million people signed up including more and more people. >> not five million.

no. heather: that is the thing, alan. we'll talk a little more later in the hour about those numbers because they are real being called into question. >> who is calling them into question? heather: talk about the number of people that have signed up but the white house can't tell you number of people who actually paid so far. and that is what really counts. then the number of people who were in fact uninsured before and that was the whole goal, that they will give insurance to people who were uninsured before, not those who lost insurance. >> people who sign up will obviously have to pay once they sign up. >> no, they don't have to pay. the fact thaw signed up doesn't close the deal. it is when you get money. >> won't have health insurance. these people want to get health insurance of course they will pay. heather: if they don't pay we'll see if the numbers change. >> right. heather: thank you both for joining us. good debate. bill: so he was a controversial pick for a top white house position met by fierce resistance from the nra. the white house is backing off the nominee because a lack of support from a group of senators

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bill: they have got issues in the west. heather: yeah. bill: like a scene out of a movie. there is a town in colorado overrun with tumbleweed. covers entire blocks. tumbleweeds can be dangerous. really? heather: yeah, they can, actually. bill: how so? heather: they can cause car accidents. you could get hit by one. bill: that is what they say,

right? they could help start brush fires. heather: that is dangerous. bill: that's an issue. heather: especially with the dry conditions. bill: look at that, tumbleweeds. as high as the porch. heather: speaking of a fire, a heated debate now raging over a controversial medical practice which uses so-called abortion drugs to induce miscarriages. critics are saying it is just a way to get around abortion laws. shannon bream, she is live for news washington. this is being described as miscarriage management, right? >> reporter: is. it is a practice meant to essentially induce an abortion by combining a couple of drugs that are legal and available but aren't necessarily meant for this purpose. women can find information online and from some doctors who will advise them about how to combine the drugs in order to cause an intentional miscarriage. advocates on both sides of abortion debate are raising concerns how dangerous the practice can be especially when women try to do it on their own without doctors supervision. this is the from the pro-life,

susan susan b. anthony list. >> i don't believe people realize the risk but fda said at least 14 women died, 2,000 women have complication, hemorrhage, sepsis, loss of future fertility. there is real danger to these drugs and the answer is not just handing them to women and then sending them off to deal with the consequences on their own especially on girls. >> reporter: some pro-choice groups say women are being forced they say into the situation because of access to abortion becoming more restricted by state laws. heather. heather: shannon, how could this pennsylvania case impact the practice? >> reporter: we're tracking this case. it could shed a lot of light on issue which has been flying under radar. 38-year-old jennifer whalen say prosecutors she ordered drugs on line and administered them to a 16-year-old girl. that spill ended up in the hospital with profuse breeding and consequences.

whalen worked at nursing home and purchased drugs illegally from overseas farm civil she could wind up facing jail time. we reached out to whalen's attorney who said it would be inappropriate at this time to comment but we'll be tracking the case. that trial should take place a little later this year in pennsylvania. heather: shannon bream, live for us. bill: apparently the tumbleweed have thorns and can flatten your tire. that's what i'm being told. heather: on twitter? bill: no, one of our staffers. heather: people should tweet us. they can tell us too. bill: fire it up. obamacare was meant to help the uninsured to get insurance but is it working as advertised? a checkup on the health of obamacare in a moment. heather: a new search for a missing plane, the missing data that has everyone asking some brand new questions as a retired general questions whether this could be part of a bigger plot. >> my concern is, if this airplane could be used as a bearer of a weapon of mass destruction or conventional

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non-insulin victoza. it's covered by most health plans. >> fox news alert. another twist in the flight mystery. files were deleted from the flight similator that belonged to the captain of the missing 777. it is another clue in what some considered another clue. >> malaysia is scrambling to see if the files can provide any clues as to what happened as they focus on the indian ocean stretching 120,000 square miles.

subhunting planes have been deployed listening to any signs of the jet or any pings of the black boxes. the search is nearing their 12th day. >> let's say it gets a hit on a possible piece of object, it will be communicated back to the government officials in asia who can vector in a ship or helicopter to get a closer look. >> william is leading the coverage there in la. what are we learning about the flight similattimulatostimulato? >> reporter: the pilot brought

in november of 2012 and deleted some files this year. will that contain a landing, takeoff plan? where was the airport? if it was an airport in the south indian ocean that could have been significant. or we could have been deleting a simulation he didn't like. >> some data has been deleted from the similator and ulator a would like to say the pilot and people remain innocence until proven. >> reporter: they believe they will be able to get the files.

>> what does this prove? >> reporter: it shows prior intent. was it a mechanical problem or they be attempt to take the airport? 30 minutes on the way to beijing it took a turn by punching a code in the auto pilot. 12 minutes before that, the copilot told the tower all right, good night. if there was a mechanical issue on board why didn't he tell air traffic control and request a new landing spot? >> we know within the first 26 minutes, they had reprogrammed the plan and were turning west far before they signed off with air traffic control. >> reporter: so bill, the last thing that is odd about that, and you can probably figure this

out, they would have seen flight mh370 why are you going off course, this is where you are supposed to be going this is where you are going. that we don't know. >> heather? the families of flight mh370 passengers are waiting word on the fate of their loved one, we are learning the first insurance payments have been made for the missing plane. the german company, alliance, says they are inline with normal practice but no details on who is receiving the money. fox news alert now in a new threat from al qaeda calling for deadly car bombings in major american cities. this was saying chose targets

within your country. target people not buildings. end quote. the latest issue of this is coming a year after the boston bombing and that same paper had the instructions on how to build the pressure cooker bombs that killed three people in boston. pro-russian forces raising a russian flag over a commander base in crimea. they pushed their way through the crowd and left after hundreds of unarmed men burst through the gate. russia's parliament is preparing to approve the annexation of crimea. something the united states and the west call not ligit. vice president biden is in europe, is he calling the

nervous of nato allies? >> that is what he is doing here in the baltic area. he was in poland saying the united states is sending a dozen flighter jets to send a picture of the united states defending them and sending a signal to vladimer putin saying that putin's move have been a land grab in crimea. and he upped the rhetoric today. >> there are growing cost that come with naked aggression. >> reporter: and a ukraine officer was shot yesterday and that led the ukraine prime minister to suggest a war crime had been committed. but details are still sketchy. but the bottom line is that is raising concerns this might be moving from a political conflict to a military conflict. >> and giving fuel to the

critics to continue to pound the administration for not doing enough. >> reporter: russian officials are taking to twitter to mock the sanctions suggesting it will not hurt them and karl rove is telling gretta is time for the president to step up >> we need to be tougher, broad, and we need to stop leading from behind. we need to lead from the front on this. >> the white house is brushing off the republican criticism. and jay carney is saying this maybe the first round and more maybe coming. >> ed henry, thank you. the white house backing etch their nominee for surgeon general.

viv -- vivek murthy -- >> we will make assessments on how and when to move. >> i think you think it speaks to a larger issue. but what is the issue with the nominee? >> the nra came out against him because of support he supports gun control measures and his point of view that guns are a disease. the nra thinks of guns as a right issue and doesn't score many votes on capital hill, but when it does, people pay

attention because the nra has an active engaged membership. >> it is an election year and there are a lot of folks with political height on the line. >> reporter: the micro issue is the nra stance on gun. the macro is the democratic panic that is gripping capital hill where the democrats are in serious chances of loosing the senate. so people are distanting themselves from the president and staying away from this. you can function without a surgeon general so that is why the white house is recalibrating

>> the senator up in alaska says he is going to vote no and nine others in the same category. broadly speaking, though, you believe this is speaking to a larger issue and issue for the president and democrats on the hill. explain that. >> he is seeing a slow motion collapse on capital hill. there is a president of the united states whose approval rating is in the high 30s or low 40s and that is a disaster if that holds in november. every democrat knows it so they are not going to do the white house favors so that is why you are not seeing a vote on the surge general nominee.

a checkup on obamacare. >> there is a gap between 58% and 138% poverty and those folks will not have access. bret baier take as look and we will have the details >> and a new claim that flight mh370 was on a different route well before the last contact when the copilot said good night. why would that be and how the details could change the investigation now. >> and a crazy traffic jam on a packed interstate. dozens of cars going the wrong way. how in the world did this happen?

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police in dallas. an accident causing a jam on interstate 635. rubber neckers played a role in two more crashes and got worse when dozens of drivers tried to turn around and drive the wrong way to get off the hospital. no one was hurt in this amazingly. >> back to the top stories. new details about the data that was deleted from the pilot's home flight simulator. he build it in kuala lumpur, malaysia inside his home. ken christiansen is here and live today in san francisco. ken, we talked yesterday afternoon, good to have you back on. try to be a teacher for us, if you could, about the flight

simulator. you have worked on one? >> that is correct. >> as a pilot, how much time did you send on the simulator? >> going through training, one hour blocks or up to three hours if you are flying a full mission. >> is it loaded with random air strips? does it show you places you can put a plane down? >> yes, it can. you will have a database of the region you are flying in and the runways in the region you are flying. >> would you ever delete your files on a simulator? does the computer get overloaded? or not? >> yeah, that is a good example. you could, but you would not be able to delete one airport from

an area. so you would maybe delete an adjacent region to free up space. >> so that is a common thing or not? >> it is. depending on -- simulators are used by multiple people. if this person is flying in the european region they would have a european database and maybe the next person flies in asia and they have an asian database. >> scott brenner offered this information. we thought we took a hard left-hand turn here. he is describing this as a slow curve to the left. he's saying they are not dramatic terms. this is a big map here. i don't know if that turn looks

like this or this. could you describe that to us? >> i am not seeing the graphic of the map right now. but i am familiar with it from what i researched before. a left degree turn would be a 20 degree bank and you would feel that. >> you can do that within a couple nautical miles? 15? 20? >> the faster you go the wider the radius and the slower you go the tighter >> the reason i am asking you that is we are trying to figure out the course of the plane. one is to the northwest toward pakistan and the other is southwest and the southern part of the indian ocean. if you are going hard right, takes this theory out. and gradual is initial route and theory number one.

can you make sense of that? >> that is correct. there were two way points correct to each other. it looks like they went direct to the initial one making more sharp bank and then a gradual left turn and intercepting the airways it looked like it was intercepting. >> thank you, ken, for coming back. anything else you think we need to know or aare missing? >> you want to follow the debris field, no debris field, no loss airplane. we have to con firm it was in the air 7.5 hours or did it turn around and crash in the water?

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[laughter] >> they were in the state park in utah pushing over this rock formation and then posted it on you tube. they are taking a plea deal and will not serve jail time but could face a fine of $2500. new revelations on an american spy program reportedly being compared to a time machine. the nsa reporting all of the phone calls in one country. billions of phone listening to them a month later. here is judge andrew with more. >> the nsa has been doing this since 2009 in the united states of america and perhaps 2006.

we are not certain. according to edward snowden, unrebutted by the nsa, but they have the content, not just the meta dit meta data. now we learn this morning from the colleagues at the "washington post" that the same procedure is being done to another country. they have not named the country. it is billions of conversations and it is only for 30 days, not five years, but it is odd the nsa would be doing this and boasting about it. we don't know if this is frieor.

if is friend, it might become foe or there might be political upheaval if the government consented without telling their people. >> it could be americans calling in as well? >> yes. it is my view and the view of obama's privacy panels that what this administration is doing is unconstitutional. the forth amendment protects phone conversations. it doesn't interfere with spying on foreigns in foreign countries. the only laws implemented there would be from the country

itself. >> what if this is in the name of national security? i know you are calling snowden an american hero, but this could hurt our security. >> when we find out what country it is, it will probably damage the relationship to the country. i don't believe this is a snowden link because we would have said what country knowing his work. >> thank you. is the health care law getting insurance for the uninsu uninsured americans? bret baier take as look. >> and the global mystery over the flight mh370 and a retired air force general standing by his theory the plane could

become a weapon of mass destruction >> when the united states quits searching in the indian ocean, they must know something. israel is tightening their force and they must know something. unsureinsurred in sureesured

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alert. malaysian investigators are scrambling to find out what happened to the flight mh370 as the search continues in the vast indian ocean and files were deleted on the flight simulator. we have a jet manager here. >> my concern is if this airplane could be used as a bearer of weapon of mass destruction or could attack a carrier or the israelis. we have to be alert until we know where the airplane is. >> we have to analyst here and good day to both of you. let's start with you general.

is mack earnie on to something? >> tom has been my mentor on fox for over 13 years and he has theory. but if you had to list the top 10 theories, the idea of a rogue pilot landing on an air strip in southeast asia is the most remote. the indians have a robust monitoring system and pakistan as well. two indian fighters were dispatched it a radar blip that turned out to be a weather balloon. i am not saying their radar system is airtight but plopping a 70-ton aircraft in an air strip with 200 plus people aboard and not finding out 11

days into it seems lower. >> let's go to mike mccall of the homeland security commission who said had it gone to kazakhstan or anywhere like that we would have picked it up on our radar in afghanistan. but the indian government said a lot of their radars -- >> there is extensive coverage >> but they said a lot don't operate at night. what do you think about mack's theory? on to something or not? >> i agree with general scales. you cannot take any scenario off the table. not to be grim, but if is scenario and as good as several of the other scenario out there. can you rank them? people are doing that, but the problem is, we are getting

information in drifts and conflicting information and material saying it must be this and then the data dozen line-up. it is coming out through different points. we are getting data from various nations and there is nothing that allows us to take one scenario off the table and saying it isn't that. so maybe it is. it is a concern like he said. i don't think it is the top three of the scenario that are out there, but it is something you have to consider >> pulling data off satellite and link it together and put the clues together is a giant jigsaw puzzle. >> they are pulling ships from the indian ocean, is that significant? >> no, i think the box the

australian and new zealanders picked is on the southeast coast of perth and they are taking the southern route most seriously and looking for wreck in those spots. so is this sort of scenario that tom suggested probably? i would say no. but you cannot take it off the table. not with a lot of huge confusion going on in the world >> and the israeli's tightened air security; is that significant? >> i think that is along the lines of saying we pulled the kid off the search, that is a direct line to the idea there is a plane in pakistan. i don't see that connection. it is procedural thing.

i am not seeing there is a connection that tells me the plane landed in pakistan and the israelis went to a higher state of alert. you cannot discount anything. until we get physical evidence, something divinitive, anything is a possibility. >> thank you. governor chris christy getting into a heated exchange over obamacare. >> 900,000 people -- >> i don't care what your part a affilation is. >> who benefits from the fact?

everybody is benefiting from who needs medicaid? >> you are standing in the way of people cuneth people. let's break it down. we expanded medicare, we are the second more generous medicaid program in the united states. >> that is true. but the market place people need to connect and that is almost 400,000 of them who qualify. >> you believe that obamacare works and i believe it doesn't. and i am not going to invest further money in a failed federal health care program. [ applause ] >> new jersey just one of many states refusing to participate in the federal health care program opting to let resident sign up through the maine health care site instead of their own change. a warning from the post

office saying if congress doesn't act they will need another bail out. mike emanual is live. what is the warning from gao? >> the united states postal service owes payments to current and retired workers, but doesn't have money. they have a hundred million in debt and they are talking about plans to make sure mail delivery continues while they try to figure out the money woes. >> what is congress considering to do with the post office? >> the senate and house have different version. senator carpenter has a bill that would allow the post service to act like a company and make their own business decisions. in the house, chairman oversight

says it is time for the post office to change. >> year after year, the congress acted and the senate is trying not to do things like going to five day, or getting rid of if you will, to the door delivery. this will help narrow the losses and get to break even >> the posting service need congress to pass reform, but the house and senate will have to work out the differences. we will see what they do. thanks, mike. heather, what is next? >> a man left hanging from a rope 16 feet bof the ground. >> 12 days to sign had hup.

>> it is $211 a month with a $600 deductible on why whopping income of less than $500 a month in food stamps.

>> a man dangles by a rope 16 stories above the ground. a working was working in tulsa when he made the call for help. >> we lifted the bucket up to him. got him in and then once he was safe he cut the rope. >> that workier is expected to e okay. the obamacare deadline is fast approaching and less than two weeks to sign-up for coverage or face the fine and

the there are new questions on whether the law is working. listen to bret baier's report. >> there is only a million people would have acquired insurance in the exchanges who didn't have it before. in medicaid, i would say 1-2. so 3 million people are insurd d out of a 50 million population. >> we have our guest here now to talk about this not doing what it was supposed do: insure those who are not insured. >> and that is what the president promised. what did the president lie ab t

about? it isn't working on any camp. i cannot wait to here richard's defense of that. most of the people signing up for insurance had insurance before the plan wrecked the american health care system. the cost curve isn't going down. $2500 per family. it went up 56% and due to go up more. this is a mess for the american people and the president needs to tell us we will dump the whole plan before it wrecks the rest of the system. >> richard, your turn. >> wrecked is the wrong word. i think it was wrecked before the affordable care act which kids were kicked off while in college or folks couldn't qualify because of pre-existing

conditions. 5 million folks are getting health care and the reason why we still have insurance coverage gap has everything to do with the fact that folks qualify for medicare but their state didn't implement it or expand it. >> you mention five million and what we said out of those five million people three million estimated to be the ones without insurance. the rest of them had insurance and lost it. so the numbers don't add up. and the government is saying obamacare, president obama himself saying they needed 7 million, majority being young and healthy, that is not happening >> we had six million people canceled and five million added. that is a negative one million.

and that is a problem. and expanding medicaid the way they did where some families with household income of $96,000 qualified to be on the government dole, tell me that makes sense. >> richard, you are right. if you make $95,000 you might qualify but that is if you make 4-5 children. the law says for those focus with multiple children who need health care and a chance to go to the doctor. >> that is their choice. >> they can not achieve the medical dream without health care. a couple million lost health care insurance and the reason why had everything to do with their plan not providing benefits they need such as preventive care and so on. >> by the way, richard, one of the things obamacare did was it said a 60-year-old woman has to have maternity care in her plan.

>> wait a second -- >> who determines what health care you think you need? 30 million people left without insurance. we do know that. >> thank you. >> jenna lee is coming up on "happening now." how are you? good morning. >> doing great. good morning. new developments in the search for the missing malaysian jetliner and what they have or haven't found and the latest search map. families are loosing patience as well. >> and now reporting on the cost of obamacare in premium and the cost in the mid-terms as well. and senator mccain is here as the russian president is strengthening his hold on the crimea and we will talk to senator mccain on what do to from here.

>> is there new technology that could be used to find flight mh370? a tracking device that might give us all one final answer. >> there is literally no further investment in infrastructure that would be required to do this. obviously more is better. but the infrastructure in place but the infrastructure in place now -- it's going to cost me an arm and a leg. you shoulda taken it to midas. they tell you what stuff needs fixing, and what stuff can wait. high-five! arg! brakes, tires, oil, everything. (whistling)

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there is possibly new technology that might be able to answer the big question as to where flight mh370 is. i want to look at the equipment that allows people to know where a plane is or could be on the ground at all times. dan springer is live in chicago from bowing. how does this work?

>> there are 350 planes equipped with a system that would prevent them from disappearing. it is called auto mated flight information reporting system and it is made by a company in canada. it has the ability to send of the information recorded to the jet's black box to a controller online. the airline would know the critical function and where the plane is even if the other communication systems are shutdown. >> it would have immediately recognized the aircraft was deviating from the plan and that would have triggered ta look at me message to operational control and started the streaming function. >> reporter: and bowing and airbus are assembling all of their planes with a form of

transponder that broadcast out where the plane is. it will be required on all planes in 2020. some are not sure the black box data collection would be done worldwide because it would be an enormous amount of data that would be difficult and analyze. the company says it would only be streamed in the case of something out of the ordinary. and best of all, no new infrastructure need. the cost of this search could be in the hundreds of millions when it is all said and done. >> thank you, dan springer. russian supporters taking their stronghold and pushing

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>> i am filling out my bracket tomorrow. we have to roll. "happening now" starts now. and right now, today's top headlines you will see here. >> a new clue for the malaysian plane and trying to restore files deleted from the pilot's home flight simulator. what could have happened to flight mh370? russian officials storm crimea and raise their flag spiking a new warning. and seven years after disappearing, investigators might have a break in the case of madeleine mccain. the information they share and it is all happening n"happening" there are new developments in the search for m