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must have something to do with this, fenway franks are sometimes two for $5. nothing better than that. i wouldn't even pay $25 to get in the ballpark. baseball is a downer. kind of boring. >> the malaysians now asking the fbi for some help. investigating the pilot of flight 370. you'll hear what the feds are trying to find out about this guy. and where the u.s. navy is now focusing its search. plus -- relatives and passengers screaming and crying at a news conference as they demand answers about this jet. in the words of one woman, it's been 12 days. where's my son? let's get to it. >> now, shepard smith reporting live from the fox news desk. >> good afternoon to you and yours.
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it's 3:00 on the east coast, noon on the west coast and first from the fox news desk at this hour, investigators are working to recover deleted files from the home flight simulator you see behind the pilot here. that's the pilot of the missing malaysian airlines flight. malaysia's defense minister says somebody deleted files more than a month before the jet went missing. you can see this is a full flight simulator, a mock-up that he's built in his own home. a lot of pilots say it's not that big a deal. after all he has 18,000 hours in the 777, why would he need a -- well, we'll see. the country's transportation minister said investigators have started getting results of the background checks on the passengers. >> we have received background checks of passengers from ukraine and russia. >> their words are soothing, aren't they? the malaysian defense minister
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says searchers are focusing more on the southern arc of this map. remember, the thinking was if you fly over all this area, wouldn't somebody see something on radar? so they're focusing more on this area. they're not saying exactly why, but i just gave you the speculation. malaysian officials also say that reports that people saw the plane flying low over maldives islands are not true. they've asked for all sorts of help finding this jet but a rep for the woods hole oceanographic institution in massachusetts says it has offered to help and the malaysians have not even responded. that's the same organization that found the france air flight after it went off brazil. what else are we hearing about those deleted files? >> reporter: shep, the source now authorized to speak on the record that they've been asked to do a technical analysis of the hard drive to recover the deleted files.
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it was recovered from the pilot's home once the investigation became a criminal case and it was reassembled by investigators as they reviewed the files with a focus on evidence that points to premeditation. authorities in malaysia telling reporters about this new evidence. >> some files were deleted from the simulator and forensic work to retrieve the data is ongoing. the pilot and the crew remain innocent until proven otherwise. >> copies of the hard drive were taken to the fbi live in quantico, virginia. >> what's the thinking about what they might be able to recover here, catherine. >> investigative sources say that these hard drives are being analyzed with the specific view on whether there's evidence of premeditation. so is there evidence that the pilot rehearsed dramatic changes in altitude similar to the flight path? you remember earlier this week
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that a remote landing strip were on the simulator including the navy base at diego garcia. if it's a deliberate act by the pilot and the co-pilot, the seasoned investigators say they'll be looking for evidence of a conspiracy, was there an outside influence that prompted one or both men to take over the jet. >> you're going to look for indicators of influence from the outside. now, if the flight crew is guilty of a crime, there's something external to them that got them thinking about this in the first place. it could have been something as simple as greed. >> so the bottom line is if you hit delete and you think that file is gone, the fbi can still recover it, shep. >> yep, that's not breaking news, thankfully. catherine, good to see you. >> you're welcome. >> dr. alan diehl is an investigator for the safety
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board. nice to see you. >> good afternoon, shepard. >> i don't know what you want to make of this flight simulator angle, does it sound like a big deal to you? >> no. shepard, airline pilots know they're flying these very automated aircraft now. too pilots and the flight management systems fly the airplane. they go buy a light aircraft to hone their stick and ruddle skills. i'll see what they come up with, but right now i wouldn't get excited about him having a simulator. >> the only thing that could be in there if he was in his mind i'm going to go to this place, let's see what it looks like, then he deleted it later, that might give them a place to search. >> he certainly knows how to fly an airplane and how to land it. but i'll wait to see what the fbi says. >> after 18,000 hours in the
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777, he ought to know. i want to run another thing by you that i've been reading. this comes from a respected aircraft expert. his name is ian black. he has some bona fides, fighter weapons instructor for the malaysian air force, the author of two hain's manuals. he flew the tornado in the first gulf war and he's an a 340 air bus captain now for virgin atlantic. it swapped out with another jet, maybe a smaller jet in the air. the four-digit squawk code, what if, he says, another jet came up behind it, they swapped codes and that code was flying in another direction? >> well, i guess that's always possible. i think it's probably unlikely. the israelis did this sort of thing, they hid behind an airliner when they went into entebbe to rescue their hostages. this scenario, you know, the screen writers in hollywood have used this before in various movies. i think there's some other actions that right now look like
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they fit the scenario given what we know, shepard, and that's not the thing i would bet on, but after 40 years of doing this for the government, i sure wouldn't -- no doors are closed yet, i hope. >> where's your head on this thing? what makes most sense to you? >> well, like i said, there are four other accidents -- i didn't say four, but looks like there are four other accidents that fit this scenario. number one people have talked about the swiss air. starts out with a little fume in the cockpit and this is an airplane in 1998 over the atlantic going to geneva from new york. the pilots don't panic. these people are very cool. so they fly along, they keep trying to figure out what's causing the smoke or the fumes, and many minutes later, they finally decide, uh-oh, we've got a problem. then they make the call. we saw this same thing oddly enough in the sister ship to the missing aircraft. there's a 777-200-er sitting on
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the ramp at cairo. it's an egypt air 777 and to get a fire in the cockpit that burns a whole below the cockpit. that would give this crew a double whammy. smoke and fumes and rapid decompression, you're in big trouble. and i think the captain realized they got some kind of anomaly here. why don't we go to the nearest big airport just like sully sullenberg. he wasn't going to fly over manhattan. this guy wasn't going to fly over kuala lumpur. there's an airport that's bigger, has over-water approaches so there's no risk to people on the ground. i think this guy was trying to do the right thing and he just got overwhelmed. we can talk about a couple of other actions. one that's very curious, had to be a human in control. in 2005 we had a 737 out of cypress, a greek airline where they had a slow decompression and a flight attendant ends up
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taking over control of the airplane to try to save it. it's a male flight attendant. he can't do that, but they fly for 2 1/2 hours until they run out of gas. does that fit? al diehl is not saying that's what happened, but i would sure keep looking. wie just hope the united states navy gets out there with a significant number -- >> i do, too. dr. alan diehl, formerly ntsb and an faa crash investigator. thank you so much. so we're living off mystery and intrigue fumes and we kind of all are, those of us who are so interested in what happened to this. and history tells us that the simplest explanation we can think of often bngs the one that's true. is it possible that that plane is just right there in the drink, right where the contact ended and just nobody's found it? it is possible. now to this. we are the ones who did it. that's from osama bin laden's son-in-law in court. let's back that up.
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let's back that up. here it is. we are the once who did it. osama bin laden's son-in-law said that's what the al qaeda leader told him the night of the september 11th attacks, we're the ones who did it. the son-in-law took the stand today at his trial here in new york city. he testified that osama bin laden asked him to, quote, deliver a message to the world after the attacks of 9/11. remember, he has pleaded not guilty to plotting more attacks on americans as al qaeda spokesman. the son-in-law is on the right of this photo here. he also testified that he warned bin laden the united states would not settle until it kills you. and sure enough, he said, bin laden respond at the time, you're being too pessimistic. just getting breaking news on to the fox news desk now, russia is reportedly considering changing its stance on the iran nuclear talks. and if that's true, it could be very big. we're getting the word from interfax, which is the russian state news agency citing a russian diplomat.
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he says moscow may have to raise the stakes because of the international standoff with the ukraine. ed henry is at the white house. this has just come in, plus jonathan hut will join us for more on the military operations in ukraine. but first, in the search for malaysian air flight 370, we'll look at the so-called radar dead zone. who knew there was a massive no man's land out in the ocean? i guess plenty of people know, but i didn't know. where there is limited or no coverage and a jet can simply disappear. also, what's your theory? what might investigators be overlooking? we'd love to hear from you. tweet us @shepnewsteam. we plan to read some of the comments later in this newscast. this is shepard smith reporting. ♪
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14 minutes past the hour. think how tricky that is. who wants to give up their military data? but they're asking great britain among others, which reports that a company there said they turned over its satellite information. we reported here yesterday that thailand unveiled that its radar spotted a plane moments after the jet went missing but it didn't release that information right away because, quote, nobody asked, quote. because we reported investigators have used satellite data to use the
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plane's path to the north and the south. plus pushing far into asian mainland into kazakhstan and the indian ocean. "the new york times" in today's reporting current around former military officials say it would be very difficult for a jet to fly undetected had it flown over the asian mainland. things that are obvious. several countries are focusing on the southern corridor. the pentagon today reports australia has assigned the united states military to cover a large area off the coast of western australia. why is the united states military covering stuff over in australia? what's wrong with the australian military? you have answers to that other things, correct? >> we'll show you where the search area is going to be. 1700 miles off the coast of western australia, off the city of perth, this blue x. about 1700 miles. >> good telela straighting. >> this is a rough area where they'll be searching. they're using a high tech
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military aircraft that just arrived earlier today in western australia and another aircraft similar, a p-3 poseidon aircraft. >> this is up in the bay of bengal. >> bay of bengal. don't know the exact area. so two of the same aircraft are searching in those two regions. >> all right. analysts say the majority of the southern corridor there is littered with so-called dead zones, areas that have very limited contact when it comes to radar and satellite. peter ducey has more on this. i didn't realize anything like this went on, certainly not that there were vast swaths of ocean that nobody could tell what the plane was doing. >> yeah, shep, it's big. if you look at a map, draw a line 200 miles off shore and that's about how far traditional radar coverage extends in the search area we have seen countries don't want to reveal where their key assets are. so what you get is a big dead zone. >> in this part of the world, in
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especially in the indian ocean, radar coverage is very, very spotty. there's not a lot out there to be looked at on a regular basis, so there's just not a lot of radar installations there. >> another problem is simple. the earth curves and radar uses a straight line of sight. the further away an aircraft is from a radar source, the easier it would be to literally fly under the radar. but that would be hard for flight 370 because it's so big. an expert in today's "wall street journal" says this, quote, you'd have to fly well below 100 meters and the 777 is not designed to fly that low. you would exceed the aircraft's stress levels. and that report also explains that very few countries in southeast asia like to spend big bucks on radar equipment. they prefer the flashy stuff like fighter jets. >> if there are these huge dead zones where radar cannot detect jets out in the ocean or whatever, how do air traffic controllers keep up with them? satellites or what? >> interesting, they basically
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just ask a pilot where their plane is over the radio and take their word for it. >> we are going to transition from a radar-based navigation system to a satellite-based navigation system. there's a lot of costs involved in some of the carriers, the airlines have been slow to adopt that because they're not really sure the federal government has that commitment as well to serve them with equip better. but until we get that we'll continue to have the dead zones out there. >> upgrades are on the way. experts say it would be possible for a determined flight crew to figure out where radar stations are, then adjust their direction or their altitude to avoid detection. peter doocy. ukraine is planning to withdraw all of its troops from crimea. that's after pro-russian forces took control of the naval base and detained a commander there. we'll have that and continuing coverage of the disappearance of flight 370. that's coming right up. starts with back pain...
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next is information and entertainment in ways you never thought possible. welcome to what's next. comcastnbcuniversal. fox urgent now. an update on the escalation of the tension between russia and most of the rest of the world. according to interfax, a russian diplomat says moscow is considering changing its stance on iranian nuclear talks. this flashed as a red alert and moveden to, quote, raise the stakes. their success hinges on solidarity of the five permanent members of the united nations security council including russia. if russia ends its cooperation with the west, analysts say iran could feel empower to keep its nuclear program with no concessions and no fallout. ed henry has the latest from the white house. we don't know if this is just
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bloviating from those people, but are they reacting in the building there behind you? >> reporter: they haven't reacted yet. but the key that you're putting your finger on is how the situation in ukraine is not isolated just to that country o that region, it shows how american foreign policy could be impacted on a whole range of issues. what russia is suggesting or might just be bloviating, might be trying to position themselves because they're in a corner now on this whole deal, but the bottom line is russia has been helpful to the u.s. in terms of pressuring iran over its nuclear program. if they all of a sudden say we're not going to do that any more and russia has a seat on the u.n. security council, that will be a problem. secondly russia has been helpful, somewhat, in pressuring syria and assad to turn over and destroy some of his chemical weapons. just a few moments ago there's been another development. nato secretary general rasmussen just gave a speech here in washington where he said two important things. one, that nato is now suspending cooperation with russia over the destruction of those syrian
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chemical weapons until they sort all this out. that's a big development involving syria as well. again, extending bell beyond ukraine. then the nato secretary general said everything that's happening right now is what he called the gravest threat to europe security since world war ii. think about that statement. that's a big deal, shep. >> yeah, especially coming from that mouthpiece. they're talking about this over at the united nations now in manhattan. if we get anything out of there, we'll let you know. check out some crazy video of pro-russian troops taking over ukraine's navy headquarters in crimea today. look here. ukraine defense minister reports nobody got hurt in all this but the attackers detained the ukrainian navy commander. and now the associated press is reporting that ukraine is planning to pull all of its troops out of crimea. today's raid happened in the city of -- i never get this
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right. sevastopol. i don't think that's exactly right. when i was there i was mispronouncing it. sevastopol is the capital there and the home of russia's black sea feet. yesterday reported that pro-russian militiaman stormed and killed a ukraine military member. vice president biden is warning russia it's on a dark path to isolation. >> russia cannot escape the fact that the world is changing and rejecting outright their behavior. global markets and international community will and should bet in the long run on countries that reject aggression and corruption. >> well, there you go. meantime the reuters news agency has reported that russia has started more war games with both fighter jets and bombers this time near the border with estonia. that's a former russia republic
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that's now a nato member. the russians claim they plan the military exercises months ago and they have nothing to do with the current crisis. it's all interrelated. any statement like that is not worth the paper it's printed on. that's a load of crap. >> and you'll get more and more of this tit for tat. the ukrainian equivalent of defense secretary has just announced that military units will hold joint military exercises with the u.s. and britain. those exercises coming under a treaty signed in 1994 known as the budapest memorandum in which britain, the u.s. and russia interestingly guarantee ukrainian's territorial integrity. those exercises a clear sign from the u.s., britain and ukraine that any further military man uvgs for instance, to move into eastern yuck rain would get one assumes a more
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serious response than the ones we've seen with the military takeovers of the crimean bases we're seeing right now. >> no matter what happens in the world someone starts questioning whether islamist fighters will end up somewhere. now questions whether islamist fighters will end up in crimea? >> crimea is home to more than a quarter million muslims known as tatars. they have historically they say been persecuted by the russians. they're afraid that history may repeat itself. now a term on twitter is trending, nefir on ukraine, that's an islamic term that they might travel there from chech a chechnya. and if they get to crimea, they get into ukraine. look at that big bothered ukraine shares with poland. if they get through there, shep, this is the big fear, they're in western europe, no borders, a
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lot of attractive terrorist targets, paris, berlin, london, all open to them, full of american tourists. >> i'm going to tivo back three minutes so that i didn't hear any of that. >> sorry, not much good news in the world. >> baseball season's almost here. very nice. 34 today, would be perfect. >> cricket season is here as well. >> crickets. there's apparently technology that gives people on the ground all the information to a plane's black box in realtime. i had never heard this. did you know this? there's technology now where you can get into a black box from the ground. had no idea. hundreds of planes have a system on board but the missing malaysia flight, of course, did not. we'll get the details of that as we approach the bottom of the hour and the top of the news from fox news channel. why do people count on sunsweet prune juice to stay fit on the inside? it's made only from prunes, nothing else. it works, simple as that. it's a natural source of fiber and 5 essential vitamins. it's the smart choice for me. try sunsweet's amazing juices and new amazing prune light.
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officials were not doing enough to find their loved ones. dragging them out, after all they've been through. good grief. it was an emotional scene. those relatives like the rest of us are looking for answers. people are paying tribute to those people missing. we have pictures to show you from across the country where things are happening. this is an office building in illuminated with l.e.d. lights. you can ethe city's famous petronas towers, iconic in kuala lumpur these are. this is something that's sprung up. they've signed a message board leaving writing and leaves prayers for the people missing. somebody left a paper plane with a note reading, please come back. sad. here's a similar scene at a shopping mall outside kuala lumpur. a big wall just like what
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happened here in new york city in the days after 9/11. this is a good one. yesterday folks gathered at that same shopping mall, sort of interfaith event, sending their prayers to the people aboard flight 370. so lots of tributes being paid. as for the ongoing investigation, there's now talk about special tracking technology that could have potentially given the officials on the ground more information if the missing jet had had it on board. dan springer with details of that, he's live in seattle. how is this thing supposed to work? >> yeah, shep, who knew? think of it as a constant streaming of all the information held in an aircraft's black box to a controller on the ground. that would tell the airline about all the important airline functions and the plane's gps location within a few feet. the system is made by a company in canada and it's already installed, get this, on 350 planes owned by 40 different carriers. it works even when the plane has lost power or the other
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communications systems have been turned off. the idea behind it was to allow airlines to be more efficient by quickly identifying mechanical problems. but as an added bonus, it would mean never having to hunt for a missing airplane again. >> there's literally no further investment in infrastructure that would be required to do this. obviously more's better, but the infrastructure in place now, which is the iridium constellation and the internet are the major pieces that you need to do this job. >> and the system costs just under $100,000 per plane. it is not required currently by the airline industry. >> but there is some tracking technology that's soon to be required, right? what's the store y with that. >> it's a transponder that will transmit to the world the exact location of all the plane. boeing is putting it on all its new planes. the feds require it by 2020.
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a spokesman for the international transportation association told me with almost 100,000 flights a day, quote, we're talking an enormous amount of date that that would be difficult to monitor and analyze, but a company official says the data will only be transmitted from the plane when something weird happens like it's diverted off its natural plane, off its path, flight plan. once it's off its flight plan, then it will kick off this information being streamed down to somebody on the ground and they'll analyze and find out what's going on. sounds helpful. dan springer. the missing malaysian jet has prompted many theories including what would have happened if the cabin lost air pressure for some unknown reason. international president of the association of flight attendants. she represents nearly 60,000 flight attendants at 20 different airlines. nice see you. >> thank you.
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on behalf of all those flight attendants, of course, our thoughts and prayers are with all the souls on board that aircraft. >> ditto for sure. now, listen to this. it's my understanding in 777s and other jets, if something crazy is going on in the cockpit, flight attendants who are back in the galley or whatever don't have a button that says, we're in trouble, we're in trouble, come and get us. there's no way to communicate with the ground, right? >> no. actually, it's one of the things we want to have to be able to communicate wirelessly with the cockpit. we have to get to the fron or back of the plane and grab an old princess phone. we'd like that ability to communicate wirelessly. and right now there's no way for flight attendants to communicate directly with the ground. >> there are differing theories if this could be helpful or have unintended conquestions. is it something being considered. >> we're advocating to make sure we can communicate with the flight deck.
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>> what if that shows up, that doesn't help much? >> after 9/11 that cockpit door is sealed tight. >> until somebody goes for a pee. >> that's exactly right. >> because you do have to go to the bathroom, you're flying from kuala lumpur to wherever they were going, shanghai, beijing, nature is going to call and when it does, you have to open the door. i know the flight attendant stands there and they put the galley cart there to try to knock you off course, but i don't know. >> obviously we have procedures in place to ensure the safety and sanctity of the cockpit. when that door is shut we're the eyes and ears to the cabin. if we were to alert that anything is happening in the cabin, but we're also relying on the cockpit to inform us if anything is happening in the cockpit that's off kilter. >> your oxygen in the back at a very high altitude doesn't last
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very long. >> no. >> you get 10 to 15 minutes depending on how full you are. is that enough? is there anything that can be done about it? >> that isn't enough time to bring a plane down in a planned kind of emergency. what's important to recognize as a crew member, if there would be some kind of explosive rapid decompression, that the time of useful consciousness at 43,000 feet would just be about 10 seconds. >> yeah, not good. hey, nice to see you. really appreciate it. best of luck. >> thank you very much. >> asked you earlier to tweet us about what investigators might be overlooking here. i'm going to sara, is that right? sara marx over here. it didn't say a bet number. i have to give the microphone. where it is. you told me the mike would be over here. what are they saying? >> lots of tweets coming in today. >> words of wisdom from the interwebs. >> yes, indeed. socal mike says i'm a pilot.
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a highly plausible theory is that it shadowed singapore airlines 68 to evade radar and fly north. >> but they've not sent anything like that out. >> this user says, don't you think they flew over water just south of india and stayed over water all the way to pakistan? these guys are smart. >> we don't know what their intentions were. everything in the world is not about terrorism. everything is not. they would like for you to think it is because that way we'll keep spending billions of dollar and losing millions of lives, but everything isn't about terrorism. >> that would mean maybe people are alive. if they think they're going to get the thing over here. difficult that touch screen. a little weird. go on. >> this tweert says ma-370, you're right. the simple scenario is the most
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logical. search the south china sea, the radar readings are wrong. >> a lot of people are thinking that's the case. simple usually works. like these things, not simple. >> not today. >> thank you, sara. there's word that insurers for malaysia airlines have begun making payments already to the family of the missing passengers. sounds a little strange seeing as how we still have no clue where that plane is or whether it crashed or landed somewhere. so why are insurance companies already paying? we'll talk to the fox business network's maria bartiromo.
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15 till the hour now. insurers for malaysia airline says they're making payments already to the families of the missing passengers. that might seem a little odd, which it does to me, since we still don't know what happened to the plane, nor do we know what happened to the folks on board. but here's why they say they're
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doing it. under international law malaysia airlines is required to pay some initial funds immediately following an incident, as they put it, so that families can cover immediate costs like travel and hotel rooms and all that kind of thing. analysts indicate relatives will not get final payouts unless and until investigators determine there are no survivors on flight 370. maria bartiromo, the anchor of "opening bell with maria bartiromo" join us. still a little weird. >> it is weird. they really carry the bulk of these payment. because of that international law that you just mentioned malaysia airways has already done the required arrangements with the reinsurance companies to alert them that they have to start beginning that process of putting some money into a fund that will go to the costs that you mentioned, transportation and various things for the families of the passengers. they're not accepting any liability. they're not paying out the entire claim. we don't know what the claim would be. until it is recognized and agreed upon that, in fact, the
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flight is gone, destroyed and unfortunately the people have perished. so yes, the process has begun of reinsurers paying this money into a fund. that money could be administered by lawyers. this could turn into a legal fight. you don't want to be talking about this when we are still looking for people but unfortunately this is the way the process happens and this is a normal occurrence. >> did you hear that? >> i heard a phone ring. >> we have a jam box on the set where we rock current '80s trends, i get music and stuff like that. it's hooked up to john glenn's phone. so when john glenn's phone just rang -- that's not true? who is it hooked up to? it might be hooked up to my phone. >> that's your fault. >> oh, it was. it was my phone. stop calling my phone during the program whoever you are. if they never actually find the plane, you even said two words that i thought were important here. if they come to the agreement that this thing is forever lost, so that means that years from
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now, if they still haven't found the plane, they have no idea, these people would get compensation. >> but i went back to look at some other situations in this regard. in the case of air france flight 447, you remember that crashed in 2009 killing everybody on board, 228 people. some claims were resolved a year later. some claims were resolved within the first two years after investigators concluded that the plane was, in fact, lost. and destroyed. so the bottom line is the reinsurance process has begun with this money going into a fund but we may very well not see any money go to the families for a couple of years. >> wow. i went to airplane mode. >> that's good. >> no puns. that way whoever is trying to call me can't. so we'll be watching in the morning. as the opening bell rings, there you are. >> yes. >> all money honeyed out. >> we've been doing a great show every day. talking about the business side of this. but nobody wants to talk about
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the business side of this missing malaysian jet at the time where we really want to find out what happened and where they are. >> people come into this building i've never seen before, ceos and stuff. you're bringing them to the business room. >> yes. tomorrow we'll be covering the fed, obviously janet yellen today took another $10 billion as you reported earlier out of the stimulus. we'll talk about that and the impact on people's moneys. >> it must have been factored in because if i look at deck three over here, the markets are down. >> you know, it wasn't because as soon as she finished speaking, actually, the market was flat, but it wasn't until the press conference when people started asking her about the plan, that the market really became undone. because it was initially not a big reaction. and this was her first press conference as chairman of the fed. obviously she's moving markets. >> she's got a lot on her plate. see you in the morning. >> thank you so much, shep. we've been following several different developments in the missing airlines flight. investigators are narrowing
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. seven minutes before the hour. a quick recap now of the latest developments in the search for the missing malaysian flight 370. investigators are trying recover deleted files from the home flight simulator of the jet's pilot. malaysian officials said someone deleted the files more than a month before the flight went missing but analysts said that person could have been doing
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something innocent like clearing space for memory. malaysian officials giving priority to the southern arc of the territory where the plane could be. as we reported here earlier the "new york times" reported it would be very difficult for a plane to fly over the northern area without anybody noticing it. we didn't need the "new york times" for that. trace gallagher is out in lala land. what more do we know? >> reporter: it's very important point because there's a huge difference between when the plane was programmed to turn left and when the plane physically actually made that left-hand turn. we have reported at least 12 minutes before the co-pilot said, "all right, good night" the plane was programmed to make that turn. but the plane physically started to make that turn 12 minutes prior to the co-pilot saying good night but now they'd of malaysia's civil aviation department says not true. listen. >> there are reports today, sir,
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that the plane diverted course and went westward before the co-pilot said good night. can you confirm is that case and if it is the case does that not suggest that the plane was deliberately taken off course. >> that's not correct. >> reporter: now malaysian authorities have not been reliable in the past but in this case they have some evidence to back them up. thailand radar picked up the plane at 1:22:00 a.m. the pilot's "all right good night" was three minutes before that. >> do we know what else they are looking for in the flight simulator of the pilot? >> they confiscated the whole thing and then put it back together. they are looking for two main things. one, whether the pilot actually practiced ever taking the plane down into the water, either landing it or crashing it into
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the water and number two, alternate airport, some other airport he could land a 777. that data that was deleted they don't know if they can recover that but they believe they can. we should note the pilot's families and friends have come out supporting him saying look this was only for amusement purposes nothing else. >> we'll wrap things up here right after this.
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>> on this day in 1966 texas western college men's basketball team defeated the university of kentucky to become the first black or all black starting five to ever win an ncaa championship. texas western went into the game as huge underdogs against top rated kentucky. kentucky won several national titles recruiting only white players but none of that matter to the integrated texas western
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squad that turned to stellar defense to shut down kentucky's big guns and they rode to the finals ending in glory 48 years ago today. when news breaks out we'll break in. neil cavuto is next. i'm shepard smith in new york. thanks for checking in. forget about paying your taxes on time. worry about the irs keeping your tax information private. welcome everybody i'm neil cavuto. now the irs is getting hacked. the tax man just disclosing the private information of 20,000 of the agency's current and former workers, was breached. it was hacked. agency staffer using an unencrypted thumb drive took the information home. now some lawmakers fear private taxpayer information could also be at risk. why ron paul saysli
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