we have a ton of feedback on james mcinerney, theory, let me know what you think, thank you for joining us, this is "the kelly file," i'm megyn kelly see you tomorrow night. and this is a fox news alert, it is now day 12 of the greatest aviation history. flights were fleeted on the pilot's home simulator. standing by in washington, d.c. with the very latest, with fox's own catherine herridge, the mystery grows wider. >> reporter: it certainly does, the fbi is doing a study of the simulator and the hard drive recovered from the pilot and

co-pilots' homes, being examined for premeditation. is there evidence that the rehearsed dramatic changes in the flight, or deliberate acts by a third party on the aircraft. a former senior fbi investigator said the techs will look for e-mail traffic for evidence of a conspiracy. >> you will look for indicators of influence from the outside. now, if the flight crew is guilty of a crime there is something external to them. they have them thinking about this in the first place. it could have been something as simple as greed. >> a second intense review of the satellite and radar data by the ntsb and faa is apparently bearing results with the pentagon releasing information that the u.s. is now focused firmly in the south. this is an area of thousands of square miles and it includes a search box ands significantly a

predicted drift box. >> thank you, catherine, we appreciate it. yesterday we learned that israel has heightened security measures in light of this plane's disappearance. and earlier today the president was asked about the missing jet. here is what he said. >> we have put every resource available at the disposal of the search process. there is close cooperation with the malaysian government. and so not just ntsb. but the fbi. you know, anybody who typically deals with anything related to our aviation system is available. and so our thoughts and prayers are with the families but i want them to be assured that we consider this a top priority and we'll continue to work with the international community to get to the bottom of it. >> all right, joining me now, former new york city mayor rudy

giuliani. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, sean. >> we do know that the simulator, reportedly he practiced takeoffs and landings at five asian airports using the flight simulator and deleted the data. and to look at tsri lanka, and more data, what do you make of it? >> it becomes clearer that this was a deliberate act. looks like the pilot could be involved. can't be sure, you have to believe there was a deliberate plan to take this plane somewhere to do something with it. the problem is we still don't know what the plan is, what purpose they had in mind. obviously it was a nefarious purpose, obviously done by experts, people who knew the plane intimately. >> all the communications didn't just get cut off by accident. that had to be done on purpose. the turn was pre-programmed. the ceo pilot gave that good

night signal after the turn that already happened. i mean, these are all facts that point to some type of a deliberate plan. >> and we have several hours of pings which would not have occurred had in fact something terrible or catastrophic happened. >> right, had it gone done or been destroyed or blown up, let's say it was blown up. >> are you confident that the fbi will be able to recover the deleted data from the flight simulator? i would think it is very difficult to delete anything these days. >> i have a lot more confidence they will do that than if we would find this plane. it is getting tougher and tougher. if it did go down in the indian ocean or any ocean it would be hard to find. i would think the fbi could do a complete reconstruction of what was in the simulators, what was in the computers, at least you would get a complete picture of what they were thinking. the frustration is clearly they took this plane, clearly they had a nefarious purpose. but we still are not any closer

in figuring that out. >> what do you think about the plan that the flight was altered. the fact the transponder and other communications, navigation also was turned off. but yet, the navigation that was built into the plane -- >> when i first heard that, i thought maybe one pilot was involved not the other, so he wanted to make the switch without the other pilot knowing that. you can't be sure either. could be there was a third person involved either working with the pilots. but that person would have to have very, very deep knowledge of the airplane. it is hard to believe, like these two iranians, that would have had this kind of knowledge. >> what do you glean from the fact that this opposition leader who was recently sentenced to five years in jail, apparently the trial ended several hours after this flight took off, anwar ibrahim, we'll play some of his comments later in the

program tonight. but does that raise a red flag for you whether his cause was just or not? that is not at issue here. >> it raises a red flag that it could have created an emotional impact in somebody that is not exactly all there. but with all the prior planning, it sounds like this was not just decided on three, four, five hours, six hours before they did this. sounds like something like that had to have been planned for a while in advance. they had -- there was too much in it. too many thing that s that were off and changed. hard to believe they just changed -- >> we had general mcinerney on the show, we'll play some of that coming up. but he is really convinced that this plan was purposely, landed in pakistan. he has some intelligence -- why wouldn't boeing be able to track this plane? >> i would think they would be able to -- >> and they haven't said

anything. >> well, you know, there is a lot of this i imagine that we don't know. there is a lot of this that is being hidden. a lot of this on purpose to not hurt the investigation. so the facts that we're working with, it would be hard to understand you know just exactly how it got to pakistan, what it is doing there, why it wouldn't track there. or the israelis, there is a concern that maybe it is either in iran or under control or some of the groups that iran contr controls. i will say this. the israeli government, even if it is a 1% chance that is a possibility is doing the right thing to prepare for it. >> they usually do the right thing, we can learn a lot from them. >> we should do the right thing to prepare. it is not wasted because some day something will happen and we'll be better prepared for it. >> let's run through the different scenarios we're talking about here. hijacking by the pilot or the crew. terrorism from the pilot, they wanted to plow this thing into the indian ocean, perhaps. terrorism from the co-pilot, hijacking from a passenger, less

likely because what we know about the data -- >> go out on a limb and say if it was a passenger, they acted in concert with at least one of the pilots to accomplish what was accomplished. could be that it was one of the pilots and then one or two of the passengers. but i think you would need one of them to accomplish -- >> i think i'm leaning where you are here. i don't think this is a mechanical failure or a fire in the cockpit. the one thing that interested me is the federal register report that there might have been a flaw in this particular airplane that would have allowed some type of cyber-hijacking where somebody could literally turn off the transponder from within the plane. way out there but -- >> but then they also would have to cut off the other communications. they also would have to -- well, if you could have done it you also have to pre-program the plane to make that turn. you would have to have a range with the pilot to give that strange message after the plane turned. as i remember -- the good night message took place after the plane turned.

so that pilot had to know that plane made the turn. what is he giving a message like that for? >> what should the united states, what should the president be doing? maybe he is doing more and we don't know it. >> i hope he does, i believe he does, i hope he does -- >> he is filling out his brackets and michelle is getting ready to fly to china on our dime, no reporters allowed. >> i think on this one, they're doing everything they can do to help. look, we're at risk here, as long as we don't know what happened on this plane we're all at risk that something terrible could have happened. you have to take it very, very seriously. it is enormously frustrating because you have so little to go on. but every country should be on alert because god knows what could be the plan. >> thank you, mayor, your experience in obviously what happened in 9/11 plays a part here. and we'll get deep into mcinerney's theory, and also on

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this is a phoenix -- fox news alert, 26 countries are aiding to help in the search, and tonight we learned that

they're looking in a larger area. i want to play for you what lieutenant -- what general mcinerney who was on the program last night. his theory, in fact this plane may have very well landed in pakistan, watch what he says. the only thing i have seen is the lignet report that they believe -- when the israeli defense forces, they must know something, with boeing, as well as the u.s. government. >> it could have been altered by computer plans, not manually, that tells us, the transmitters would have been activated, which automatically notifies a satelli satellite, the satellite system -- so the landing in the water is a little unlikely because of the southwest of australia, if it were to have been landed on an air field on terra firma, then that would explain why there was no elt. yeah, it is very possible. >> dan, let me ask you, same question, when the computer -- when the flight path is altered had to be done from cockpit because they changed the computer. it was not done manually, so that raises a lot of questions, transponder turned off, that is something that can happen manually. and the plane, obviously according to the pings was so off course, by design, the electronics as they were today

it can hit the automatic pilot. it will take you right to where your destination is, right? >> that is all correct. and i don't want to discount anything yet because we don't have any proof to the contrary. but the pilot doesn't need the flight control computer to fly. so all of this stuff about having to change way points and reprogramming, that is nice, not necessary. >> it is not necessary, but information we have was telling us it was altered on the computer. so that means it was done by somebody who has aviation knowledge, right? >> absolutely, not just aviation knowledge, but knowledge of that airplane. now, there is one point here i need to clarify. i said this yesterday. the elts go off under normal circumstances. but the pilot can disable the one that is in the tail with the switch in the overhead panel above him. because frequently pilots land hard and don't want to set off the beacon. the ones in the back have to be manually turned on by the flight attendants when you ditch at

sea. they're activated by salt water but they have to manually turn them on, they don't want to run on them because the batteries will run down. >> what about the transmission of data? the engines we know, the boeing triple 7 transmit data as to the other functions and the mechanical devices that are inside of the plane. now, we also know that they tried to do this for up to seven hours afterwards, at least tried to connect satellite-wise. so doesn't that give us some information. doesn't boeing have the ability to monitor such things? >> yeah, they do. but this is the rolls royce engine so it goes through great britain. and it is a good system but it doesn't do unless you specifically sign up for the service it doesn't do geo-location. it just basically gives a hand shake and says we're awake and transmitting. >> but that is important, isn't it? because that is saying that the jet is flying.

>> well, or the engines are running. and like i said if i want to disappear an airplane i would take it out into the south indian ocean because i don't think you would ever really find it. >> okay, but if the engines are running and that data confirms that in fact this was done by design, captain nash, would you agree with that? >> i would, because if something disappears, it could be a catastrophic event. but then, if it were a catastrophic event it would have stopped transmitting almost immediately. not continued to try to connect to the satellite for the next several hours. and as far as if you wanted to create the amelia earhardt story of the 20th century and whatever happened, you take it in nowhere-near ocean land and ditch it. because we only have 18 days

left with the flight recorder performing to spec, and after that it will be worse than a speck after that. all right guys, appreciate it? coming up on the edition of "hannity," what does it mean for the u.s. national security? and k.t. mcfarland has more on that. and later, the heart-wrenching video of the mother searching for her son, as "hannity" continues. [ male announcer ] staples has everything you need

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continuing tonight on the missing malaysian airlines plane, the questions are raised about the world's respond to the incident, in fact they could be teaching terrorists. what it means for the u.s. national security, the u.k. defense minister adviser, and also with us the former national security adviser under ronald reagan, good to see you. this raises a lot of questions, what do you learn from this? >> they're watching and we've seen in the past they're very adaptable. very nimble, they look at a situation, how do they adapt to it. let's look and see, there are a lot of holes in our security system, you think you can't get on a plane with a stolen passpo passport, right? we've seen stolen passports, you can pay cash, buy it at the last minute, a one-way ticket. there are not eyes in the sky

everywhere. we may be looking in the northern hemisphere, there is no quarterback on this team. there is nobody saying you do that, you do this. >> obviously, we have the -- >> we're the a-team. >> why are we not in charge of this? why didn't we demand to take control of this? >> well, sean, in the diplomat level, this is very sensitive. i was there in indonesia, 40 hours after it happened. the u.s. fleet was in the indonesian ocean, but they do not want to be seen to not being able to cope with this issue. it gets to a point where it is more damaging for malaysia not to invite external agencies in, bad for pr.

>> they keep changing their time line and the information that they're putting out. and then we have countries like thailand literally withholding information they had for ten days. i mean, it is insanity. >> that is the other thing that is upsetting. we may have our intelligence, the a-team intelligence, other countries may have that, as well, i think that is another big gap in it. >> we have a pilot that invited two young good looking australian young girls in 2011 into the cockpit, plenty of pictures available of that. and then we find out he is a supporter of an opposition leader who was just sentenced to prison for five years, and as a matter of fact we have anwar ibrahim, the opposition, related to the pilot. several hours before the flight took off. watch this. >> is he related to your daughter in law's family and how well did you know him? >> well, he is. in fact, i wouldn't know -- i was not aware until my daughter

in law who is now in new york, he is related to the pilot. i know him as a person -- very nar passionnate about justice, very close to the family, very close to a member of the parliament of our agency. >> a pilot that is a supporter of an opposition which doesn't make him a bad person, but did we maybe miss some signs and issues here? >> well, sean, i think it is right improper that we're looking at hijack and sabotage. i think we have to look at mechanical failure without the pilots knowing about it. >> how do you say mechanical -- >> here is why, air france 447, the black boxes were not found for two years, and when they were found it is because there was ice in the tube, the

instruments didn't read the right way. >> all possible. >> and we're 12 days into this investigation. >> here is why i suspect that may not have happened because it went so far off course. now, according to reports -- >> we don't know it went off course. >> we do know -- >> there was a way point that was put into the computer system. it was not put into the root, or we don't know it was put into the root. there were two separate things. >> all the evidence suggests it went way off course, that the transponders were turned off and the flight paths were altered by computer. >> humbly, i do not share that opinion. >> you need to call "the new york times." >> primary and secondary radar cannot track where radar is, only acars can. they were switched off. >> we know the systems were trying to connect with the satellite that tells us the plane is still in the air, still

functioning, still flying. it wouldn't be able to send out the pings if the crash of the magnitude we're talking about could have happened. >> the only information we have is the malaysian military -- >> no one is arguing. >> we can't say that was primarily malaysian -- >> i talked to the head of the crisis management who said we would have been at those guys' houses within ten minutes, is there anything incriminating, we're now over a week into this and are now finding out about these people. >> what do you think of the simulator? >> here you have deleted files, i'm pretty certain the fbi will be able to get to the bottom of it. it is kind of hard to delete any file these days, isn't it? >> yes, again, we're way late, whatever was there might be gone. >> what do you think about general mcinerney's theory? >> i think he is a straight

shooter, i really respect him. if there was a plane, the terrorist incident, maybe it won't make it to israel, and they're not dopes, they don't go on alert for a good reason, are they worried about a copy cat, an incident that could be in their neighborhood. >> or as mcinerney suggests -- >> my piece of that if it is going to land somewhere, if, then we know during the osama bin laden raid, two chinook s crossed the afghan border -- >> but a triple 7 can't fly that low. >> which is the point, the radar would pick it up. >> we don't know that they picked it up. >> maybe they turned it off at night to save money. >> if there was a pakistan air space, and the pakistan government were not acquiescent -- >> obviously, there is a fear

among the pakistanis about taking them on. >> a very densely populated country -- >> maybe getting a little off course, no pun intended, we have a busy night on this breaking news edition of "hannity," and coming up. and the heartbreaking video of the mother who just wants answers about her son who was on flight 370. more on that emotional tape. but first, stop what you're doing, we want you here every night, record the "hannity" series so you never miss a show. we'll be right back. ...and a choice. take 4 advil in a day which is 2 aleve... ...for all day relief. "start your engines"

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it shows why we are so focused on finding out what happened to flight 370, just like that grieving mom they deserve answers. joining me now, our great american panel, we have imus in the morning, and bernard mcguirk, and fox business analyst, sandra smith. that is why we need answers because all of us are at risk until we know what happened on this airliner. >> there is such a lack of information, and the information put out has been retracted. this search is now 26 countries, 12 days, people are shocked that something like that can happen in the day and age where we assume we're being watched everywhere we go. >> triple 7's don't disappear out of thin air. >> they certainly don't, but i tell you what, sean, this absolute chaos involving this

woman's anguish is exactly the most vivid portrayal, they kept this woman at bay, adding to her anguish, we looked at it, said my god, the poor thing, what about the exacerbating thing about the officials, the media, where were they? there has not been a reliable bit of information. there is so much disinformation. >> we rarely agree, we're on the same page. >> nothing to disagree, the woman, what she is going through is unthinkable for anything as a parent. and the malaysian government has handled everything poorly from the start, that is a manifestation at this point. >> some say too much coverage. i mean, look at this, this is madness what the poor woman had to go through, here is a montage

of the coverage, that some say is maybe an over saturation of covera coverage. >> we begin with more news. >> time line, events on board that missing plane. >> we have new details on what may have happened inside the cockpit. >> files may recently have been delete. >> what did they see or hear? >> the hunt, seth doan is along for the search. >> too much coverage, sand are a? >> too much coverage, because we don't have a lot of facts, everything you receive is mostly

speculation. >> what we're trying to do is put pieces of the puzzle together because triple 7's don't evaporate into the air. >> if a pilot is going to dump an airplane, if you're going to kill yourself and the passengers you put it down, you don't then have to make the left turn and fly for hours afterwards. and i've been around the block a long time. >> a very long time, forever. >> even more than all of us combined, geraldo. >> and south second street and waynesburg -- >> i had fun watching you -- >> all right, get your bobby socks out. my point is, you can't tell the audience what the important story is, they will tell you. if they tell you that is what they want you -- to your detriment --

>> there is a certain amount of casey anthony curiosity -- >> the cop on the corner asks me about it, my mother asks me about it. >> i went out this weekend, that is all anybody wanted to talk about. >> there was new information over the weekend. but as we sit here on wednesday night i think that now it is over. >> ukraine is a giant story. the restart of the cold war. a giant story, i did a show a week ago saturday the first half hour was the airline rating, the second half hour was ukraine. everybody -- >> let me know how that applies to them. and with this story, everyone wonders could this happen to me or my son or loved one? >> is this lost? >> no, it is not lost. let's go to our fearless leader, geraldo's president. >> roger aileo -- >> i'm kidding.

he is doing his ncaa brackets, i see michelle is flying off without reporters to china -- this man seems so out of touch as vladimir putin is on the world stage lecturing him. >> his picks are not bad. >> that is all that matters. >> you started by saying the brackets. >> i hate to tell you, i picked the day before, he picked my final four. >> sometimes you got to give him some skin there. >> where is he? we have putin embarrassing him on the world stage. we have a missing triple 7, there is no urgency in this man's life. >> what are you going to do -- >> he can put missile defense in the czech republic, missile defense in czechoslovakia. and literally fracking and drilling for oil.

>> crimea is not our business. >> he made it his business saying consequences will occur. >> there will be dire consequences. if you're a rich russian right now and can't travel -- >> 11 people? >> this is the mafia, and if you take out the top -- >> the vice president was in poland and the baltic states, this will come, and the red line will be eastern ukraine. >> they're laughing. >> going to be that -- >> joe biden is not going to reassure anybody over there. they know what we think of him. >> by the way, he said as the head of the intelligence committee he was the one responsible for things in 2009. that is called a lie. >> by the way, where is geraldo's beard, you don't like it? >> i got a lot of pressure -- i got a lot of pressure. >> he is going on "naked and afraid". >> naked and unafraid, you know

that. >> wow -- >> wait until you see. >> we should have like the -- we should do this on dot com. >> are we getting another selfy? is that what he is alluding to? >> don't ask on video. >> all right, we're going to stop picking on geraldo. coming up, fox's own dan springer. he joins us to explain how the aircraft experience could have been avoided. later, your chance to ask our expe experts about the plane. and much more on "hannity" as we continue tonight. ladies, does your overactive bladder make you worry

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. and this is a fox news alert, the search area for the missing malaysian airlines

jetliner now scans for further area, fox's own dan springer is in seattle tonight with the details. >> hey, sean, there is no good reason for authorities to not know where this plane is. the technology exists right now. in fact more than 350 planes already have the systems on board. it is called afirs, developed in canada. 40 airlines or chatter servi ch have bought it, even though it is not required by the government. what it does is transmit information to the ground, allowing them to know all the critical information and also exactly where the plane is, even if there is a power failure or the plane's other communication system is shut down. >> there is literally no further investigation and infrastructure that would be required to do this. obviously, more is better. but the infrastructure in place

now which is the internet, and consolation, really are the major pieces that you need to do this job. >> additionally, boeing and air bus are equipping all of their new all of the new planes with an advanced transresponder designed to broadcast to the world where that plane is every second. they'll be mandatory in 2020. as far as scanning black box data a spokesman told me with 100 flights per day, quote, we're talking about an enormous amount of data difficult to monitor the company says streaming only takes place when something unusual occurred the system does add around $100,000 to the cost of the planes but the planes cost over $100 million to make the coach for flight 370 could top hundreds of millions of dollars, sean. . >> i know malaysian airline dz not have the service that would have monitored for example,

technical information they tried to connect with a satellite. that is what the pings are all about. is it possible boeing or anyone else might have information that could be relevant here? that they may have acquired through this process? >> yes. boeing is being so tight-lipped about this. they're part of the investigation so they're being guarded with whatever technology they have. but again this, what we showed in this report is that technology is out there. it's in satellite covering the globe. to be able to pinpoint where that plane and is send out information to a controller on the ground about air speed, altitude, where that is gps location within feet so there. this airline industry made $18 billion last year.

it's not a lot of money to have the information. that air france search cost about $160 million. searches are expensive and planes are too. >> our thoughts and prayers go out to the people in seattle after that terrible helicopter crash this week. thank you for being with us. >> we asked you what lingering questions you may have about the missing flight. you sent thousands of them. we had to go through them aviation attorney sal lagonia. >> jenny says it is possible the pilots were having unexpected trouble? >> well, good question. >> great question. except they later said good night. so if the preprogramming occurred before the

communication. first thing you do as a pilot when you have a problem is report it to air traffic control. >> immediately. >> we talk about aviate first, navigate second, then communicate. you're going to tell them right away. you're not going say good night if nothing happened >> is it possible they need someone on board to help with the process this is interesting. federal register apparently there was a defect on the boeing 777 and other airplanes. they felt there was a vulnerability in terms of people inside of the plane might be able to cyber jack the airplane and transponders and so forth. did you read that? >> i did. it's a bit far fetched for this situation you do need more than what we had here. you would have had to have been properly equipped to do that. i don't see that as a high probability. >> coming up more of your questions for our aviation

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are you in good hands? as we continue on this breaking news edition of "hannity" this, is from carmen. how many times during the flight are pilots required to check in? >> there that is a good question. there is no requirement but what pilots have to do is every time they change a sector they have to change frequency. >> saying goodbye to next sector and hello to the next sector. >> how did china not pick up 90 minutes after it went missing they realized there is a missing plane out there? >> if the transponder is

november, there is still a blip there. >> anthony on twitter asked were other planes in the area contacted when flight 370 lost communication? a report early on one plane said they might have identified this flight. >> correct. japan airlines flight they did what they should have done they called another plane into the area. and said can you relay the message to them? >> betty on face book. could the passengers use cell phones? >> hard to get a cell phone signal outside of the cabin. but if passengers didn't know what is going on, it's possible. >> red eye? >> most people are sleeping or -- it's sliming slowly and depressurizing the cabin. you have to consider that possibility. >> thank you we want you here every night we'd like to invite to you join

us. set your dvr so you never miss an episode right here on fox. start your day with fox and friends each weekday morning. thank you for being with us we'll see you back here tomorrow night. the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: [sobbing] >> anger growing against the malaysian government which has totally botched the disappearance of the jet liner. tonight, we will once again tell you the facts of the story without the speculation. >> of course there are crimians who disappear and are desperate to stay with ukraine. >> as we predicted bad things are now happening off russia's seizure of the crimea. the defense minister saying his country can no longer count on america. we will have the latest on this very troubling international situation. >> we deal now in feelings. we don't deal in facts anymore. >> also tonight, miller has some thoughts on the missing jet