snollygoster. thanks for watching tonight. miss megyn is coming up next. don't forget the spin stops here because we're looking out for you. >> this is a fox news alert from new york. australian prime minister announcing just a short time ago two objects in the search for the malaysian jetliner may have been found. prime minister abbott telling parliament the royal air force has been diverted to that area to locate those objects three additional aircraft are expected to follow but there is no word yet where the objects were found or why they think it could be part of the missing malaysian airliner the search has been narrowed to that area off the coast of australia the plane sh carrying 239 people has been missing since

march 8th. all of the families wondering what happened to loves ones australian authorities saying two objects have been found. joining us by phone is mike boyd a aviation security expert. mike, they're going to be trying to 0 in on the objects what are they go owing do after that? >> if a determination they're from that 777 the next step will be track back where they came from in the water then try to focus on where the plane might have hit the water then look to the black box. >> tell us again. you know when you're talking about debris in the water if it's from a crash and we don't know that, we haven't gotten specifics but if they are talk about the fact that debris can be spread around. >> it could have floated for days. if it is debris. that means you have currents, winds, these things you're going

to go back to try to track that back to find out where they did hit the water. then focus on that. if they float, it's been a week now. nothing is static in the water. >> and we're hearing these objects were spotted on satellite imagery they do have to take a look to make sure of what exactly this is. what the find is. we've had reports all over the place as far as what direction, what happened to it, different theorys why do you think officials finally focused on this particular area off the coast of australia? >> i think they had good indications that is where the plane was headed now keep in mind piloted as far as we know. so they could have changed direction. we may end up finding out this, you know flotsam and jetsam floating in the water and we're back to square one.

i don't think the prime minister would have made the statement if he wasn't reasonably sure that this was the airplane. >> we should be hearing more as well. we're talking about what is going to happen next. if they do find they're from the plane, then what? >> well, again, they're going try to track back to where those objects would have initially hit the water then look for the black box. that is going to tell us a lot of things black box and other indicators like that. that is what they're going to look at. that may be just as difficult as trying to find the airplane itself. >> yes. you're talking about the fact there could be debris all over. tell us a little built more about how that might make things more difficult for investigators and searchers out there. >> well, keep in mind this is a big piece of machinery. wrur going to have bits and pieces going into all driks.

that doesn't necessarily mean these are the only pieces or these are the ones that are going to lead tt airplane itself. that is going to be the challenge. if it is the airplane we have this to go with, which means at least the families have closure. that would be, i mean a dark benefit, but it's a benefit. >> you talk about that closure, you know, if i were a family member i'd probably want some pretty definite proof this was from that airliner crash. how thorough are the crews looking going to be in the future? >> i think within minut they find these pieces, take them out of the water they'll know whether they came from this specific triple 7. it won't take long. >> we talk about the fact once they find the debris, you

mentioned black boxes a couple times what that might be able to tell investigators, what are they going to be looking for? >> well, they're going to be looking for what the airplane did from the time it took off. hopefully, the black box has not been monkeyed with. i suspect they couldn't get to it. the thing it probably won't tell us is why they did this and what the intent was that will be what we're going to find out from other sources >> i don't think that is something people have given much thought to. it could have been miss mesed with. that is something you have seen before? >> well, i had not i had not seen indication of anything like this in 40 years in this racket. this is all new territory for everybody, including the magician who would be investigating the wreckage.

these people that investigate wreckage they're magicians they can find things we mere mortals can't. we can't understand why this was done. that is going to take another whole investigation. >> and in talking about all of the different theorys you know everyone is around the knowledge of the plane that a person would have had to have had to turn off communications devices and everything else. so if you're talking about messing with a black box that would have to be someone that really knows what they're looking for and knows the plane. >> there is no question. this whole thing is not amateur act. someone planned it out carefully. i don't know why. but some one did plan this out very, very carefully. >> let's go back again for people just joining us and have not heard what is going on. australian prime minister announcing they found a couple objects in the water off the coast of australia. they think they may be connected

to the missing malaysian jetliner. there is going to be a longer investigation into this. they're going to have to take a closer look. i'm speaking with mike boyd right now, an aviation security expert. we're talking about what they're going to do, when, if they determine that this actually is debris from the missing jetliner. and mike, i'll let you elaborate on that again as far as where this is going to go from here. >> i have to go quick here but here is the deal the minute they can get their hands on this debris, they will know yes or no. if it's a yes they're going to take a look at where it has floated over past 8 or 9 days and go from there. big thing is that is not going to tell us why this happened or what the real intent was. it's going to be an intelligence problem. >> it could take a bit of time. >> yes. it could.

>> mike boyd thank you for staying with us and giving us your valuable insight. again, i want to let people know australian prime minister announcing not too long ago that they have found two objects could be connected to the search for the malaysian jetliner. prime minister abbott telling parliament there in canberra the royal australian air force has been diverted to that area. it's expected to arrive sometime thursday afternoon along with it, three additional aircraft to aid in the search but we're so far no word on where these objects were found or what led investigators to believe this could be part of that missing airliner the search already had been narrowed to an area off the coast of australia. they thought it might have been heading in that direction. now they found these two objects the plane carrying 239 people has been missing a couple weeks, missing march 8th. took off from kuala lumpur on the way to bejing.

we know it never made it. relatives have been agonizing the past weeks wondering what happened. we have heard every possible theory that you can imagine on what happened to this plane. over the past weeks and now, we're going news tonight from australian prime minister who is saying they have found a couple objects. one aviation security exert said now they're going to have to take a look ask determine yes, these objects frr a boeing 777 then they're going to have to expand and try to look for other debris that could have been floating around out there this whole time. if these objects are related to the plane. so this is going to be a long process, unfortunately, for the family members but at least, he said just by examining they'll be able to tell if they're from a boeing 777 that will be the beginning. then they'll have to expand the

search. they're hoping to find that black box which is, should tell them what happened, you know in the last moments. because until now this has been speculation and people's theorys and guesses as to what might have happened to this plane. this expert saying this is the first time he's seen anything like this in 40 years he's never seen a plane just disappear and nobody knows what happened. so it's sounds like and hearing from the australian prime minister that they have a pretty good idea that this is debris could be from that plane. but again, they're going to have to take a look before that can be determined. this debris, if it is from the plane could have been out there for quite a while. so that is why he said the investigation isn't just going to be finding the debris saying okay this is it. it's going to be more intense, the search could go on for a very long time.

especially if they're unable to locate the black box. and i want to go ahead and let you listen in to what the australian prime minister had to say just moments ago. >> speaking further if i may. australian mayora time safety authority received information based on satellite imagery of objects possibly related to the search. following specialist analysis of the satellite imagery, two possible objects have been identified. i can inform the house that a royal australian air force orien is expected to arrive at about this time. three more aircraft will follow this orion by our task for more

intensive follow up search. i've spoken to my malaysian counter part and informed him of the developments. i should tell the house and we must keep this in mind the task of locating these objects will be extremely difficult and may turn out they're not related to the search for flight mh 370. never theless i did want to update the house on this potentially important development. >> we're listening to the australian prime minister briefing on objects found that could be related to the missing malaysian boeing 777. they have sent planes out to take a look at the debris to see what it is and if it is related if they find out it is related they have to expand the search. you have to understand it could have been floating out for a while. so this far from over.

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off the coast of australia telling parliament on thursday a royal australian air force orion has been diverted to the area. also joining them are three additional planes. it's going to be an intensive search even after they found the objects there is no word where they can be or why it's believed they could be part of the missing airliner. we've heard they are going to be searching west off the western coast of australia looking for the objects the plane has been missing since march 8th. we've seen loved ones screaming and crying, wanting to know what happened to the people they loved on that plane. this is something they can home foreclosure. don't know what the objects are if they're related to the plane. australia sending planes out to

take a look at the objects . one expert said if they find they're parts of the airliner it's just the beginning they're going to have have to scour probably hundreds or thousands of miles of ocean to try to locate more pieces of the plane. it's been a couple weeks tlchl could be debris scattered in a wide area. they'll definitely be looking for that black box, answering a lot of questions. because anyone who has been following us knows to has been a lot of misinformation, a lot of different theorys out there as far as what could have happened to the plane. and now we're hearing word from the australian prime minister which does carry a lot of weight that he's announcing and letting them know that this is a serious and intensive search. for these objects. family members must be just f u

glued, hoping they're going to get new information right now, i was going to have you listen to australian television coverage of the search. we don't have that right now. we'll try to get that for you in just a few moments. if you just joined us australian prime minister just afounsed to the australian parliament that a couple objects have been found that could be piecing of the missing malaysian jetliner that went missing a couple weeks ago on march 8th. the family members have been waiting anxiously, pains takingly hoping for any bit of information might tell them what happened to the plane. they were waiting for their loved ones in beijing a lot of them. the plane never arrived they've been hoping for something they can see is closure. something might have happened to

this plane. now we're hearing from australia saying that there is a search underway they have sent orion aircraft to try to find these pieces of debris. and we're hearing the search is going to expand 15 nautical miles west of the australian coastline. we know the search narrowed to a couple different paths and this is one of the panels that they're looking closely at as far as where it might may have disappeared. we have not heard anything as far as if this is part of that missing malaysian jetliner. it's just a possibility these objects have been found in the water might be related. and of course, according to any aviation experts you talk to, once they find those pieces that is just the beginning because

they're going to interest v.to try to find other parts of the wreckage if these are pieces of the plane, it may take weeks, months ashg long time before they have all of the information and all of the answers as far as what happened here. people have been watching for two weeks, wondering what would have happened how a jetliner could have just vanished seems like something impossible. but now, the flight path narrowed down just days ago, to these, one of the areas off of australia they're searching now for couple pieces of debris. now we're going to go to robert mark a foeshler commercial pilot. what can you tell us about this? we've heard once they can find the objects we've been told they have to find them, what happens next? >> well, i think the most important thing is that they're probably an aircraft on the way

as i understand it headed to the region to try to visually identify what they're looking at. while we know these are potentially parts of an airplane we've heard from australians we don't know for certain it is the airplane. it could be from something else. we don't know. except the fact the australian prime minister -- >> i hate to stop you there we're going to come back to you in just a few moments we're going to go to break first. couple pieces of debris found off the coast of australia. we'll be back in a moment. and when you put them in charge of making an unbeatable truck... ... good things happen. this is the ram 1500. the 2014 motor trend truck of the year and first ever

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i'm shepherd smith in new york this is breaking news of

what appears to be a major development in the search for the plane that has gone on now for 12 days australian maritime safety authority is going to hold a news conference in just a moment. we believe we're six minutes from this. if you've been with us over the past hour or so, you know there are reports now from the australian prime minister himself as delivered to his parliament that a sighting has been made off the coast of perth, australia. some, depending on how many miles off the coast. and believed to be pieces phone shally of the jet, which went down march 8th. can we confirm that? we cannot this, is the most definite information we've been able to get over the course of the investigation. this is not from malaysian authorities this is instead from

australian prime minister himself. owe it's mid day in australia. they received some satellite imagery they, as the tri goes to us they see the satellite imagery. there are questions about it. it moves to another level of checking now, for whatever reason they have reason to believe these are pieces of the plane. think about what is possible with satellite technology. this is australia. these are australian satellites above australian waters. in theory, they'd be able to zoom in to a very up close location if there were markings for a jet they'd be able to see such a thing. if there are seats they'd in theory be able to see such a thing. it would stand to reason if they were pretty sure the prime minister of australia would

probably avoid making open statements to parliament so for those reasons and those reasons alone, we believe this may be a crucial moment in the search for the malaysian airlines boeing 777. so all we have now is that a news kons fren scheduled to begin i want to bring in catherine herridge our correspondentent and producer for that matter in washington. catherine, do you have anything we don't some >> what i wanted to add to it, shepherd is that we reported faa is taking second intense reviews for data associated with the flight. that is data link information that led to the tracking of 21 to the north, one along the

western coast of australia. this data given a the flight pattern as they understood it. it turns fuel and how far it could fly. after assessed, 36 hours later, the pentagon issued a new search mast released yesterday showed a search area had been refocused if you will in that western section, southern indian ocean 1500 nautical miles off the coast. it also included what is described as a drift area about 7 to 8 days after the jet disappeared from all signals intelligence. so that is number one. this does seem to have born

fruit this, is why u.s. assets have been sent there. on the satellite images if there was a break up of the aircraft or it went down into the water, what former national transportation safety board investigators have told fox news is that size of the wreckage, large wingspan that tail section with the horizontal and vertical stabilizer this is the wreckage that would survive impact you remember we'd had a false alarm this was the same discussion. that type of debris can have markings associated with the malaysian aircraft. this is all just connecting the dots for you as we lead up to this news conference. >> catherine, again it's to begin in just minutes we're approaching bottom of the area, we'll do a fox news alert at bottom of the hour. australia's prime minister said

there is not one, but two objects on which they're focusing. an orion aircraft expected there in just hours then three more aircraft that have. so we're about to learn from the news conference on the left of the screen. >> it's half past midnight on the east coast. half past 9:00 on the west coast this, is fox news continuing coverage of what appears to be a break in the case of the malaysian airlines 777 that went down or disappeared at least some 12 days ago. it's mid day in australia. the australian prime minister has said two objects possibly related to the night have been spotted on satellite from satellite pictures in the indian ocean. and they say an air force aircraft has been diverted to that area to try to locate them. now those involved in this explained to us this is going to

be a very complicated and tedious search the area is very broad they're sending in one orion aircraft expected to arrive within the next couple hours. this in canberra. three other aircraft are expected to follow for a more-intensive search in the hours that followed. but the prime minister himself cautioned that the task of lobingiting the object would be difficult the produce we ares are telling me to listen n here comes australian prime minister now. let's listen. >> i will make an opening statement. all times that are used will be expressed in australian eastern daylight savings time or

canberra time. coordinating southern corridor search for missing malaysian airlines aircraft with assistance from australian defense force, royal new zealand air force and united states navy. as such rescue coordinations received satellite imagery of objects possibly related to the search for missing aircraft flight mh 370. rcc australia received an expert assessment this morning 20th of march. the images were captured by satellite. they may not be related to the aircraft. the assessment of the images was provided by the australian gearo spacial intelligence organization as a possible indication of debris south of the search area that has been

the focus of the southern search operation since monday, 17th of march. the image is in the area defineed and searched in the past two days further images are expected after commercial satellites were redirected to take high resolution images of the areas of interest. these will be provided in due course. four aircraft have been reoriented to locate the objects, approximately 2500 kalo meters southwest of perth as a result of the information. a royal australian aircraft arrived in the area about 1:50 p.m this afternoon. further three aircraft have been tasked to the area later today including a royal new zealand air force orion.

the posidoen should be on scene now the orion departed at 2:00 p.m this afternoon and should be on scene at 6:00 p.m this afternoon the new zealand due to depart at 4:00 p.m this afternoon and should be on scene at 8:00 p.m . a royal australian air force c 130 hercules aircraft has been tasked to drop data marker buoys. these marker buoys assist by providing information about water movement, to assist in drift modelling. they will provide an ongoing reference point if the task of relocating objects becomes pro

tracted. having been diverted by rcc australia. the royal australian navy war ship hma success is on route to the area but is some days away. she's proven to be from mh 370. the focus for answer to continue the search operation with all of available ships and aircraft. the ships and aircraft as searching for any signs of the missing aircraft. weather conditions are moderate in southern indian ocean where the search is taking place however, poor visibility has been reported this will hamper efforts. and continues to hold great concerns for passenger asks crew on board. and i must emphasize these

objects maying very difficult to locate and they may not be related to the search. i'd be happy to take questions. >> what do they appear to be? >> the objects are indistinct on the imagery. i don't profess to be an expert but those who are expert indicate they're credible sightings the indication to me are objects reasonable size and probably awash. with water. moving up and down on the surface. >> are you aware of the size? a basketball or a seat cushion? or much larger >> much larger than that. largest image has been 24 meters. there is one smaller than that and a number of other images in

the general area. of the biggest one. >> that is almost two hours ago now. have you had report back? >> the aircraft reported on weather on scene. that is where i get the information that there is poor visibility in the area. and they'll talk about the implications of that separately. >> that relocated the wreckage spotted on the satellite? >> no. there have been no sightings yet. >> what will the merchant ship do? if it does find an object? or gets to the scene and objects are there will they pick them up? >> likely scenario is that aircraft will find an object if it is findable. then, report back an accurate gps position and ansa will task the ship and attempt to see it. that would be our first chance

to take a look at whatever the objects might be. and progressively advance identification of whether they're associated with the search or not. >> when was the satellite imagery captured? do you know what time? what day? >> we're provided it from australian ago this morning. but i might ask air commander to speak about the imagery. >> so imagery being progressively captured by satellites out of the various areas. the task of analyzing imagery is quite difficult requiring drawing down frames going through frame by frame the moment the imagery was discovered to reveal a possible object that might indicate a debris field we have passed information from defense across to ansa for action. >> is it fair to say you believe

it's credibly debris from the plane that we can draw conclusions from that because there is a fair chance that it is? >> i, put simply it's critical enough to divert the search to this area on promising that it might be wreckage from the debris field. >> other elaboration is that we have been in this business of doing search and rescue and using satellite images before. and they do not all turn out to be related to the search even if they look good. we'll hold our views on that until sighted close up. >> what kind of satellite spotted the debris in the first place? whose was it? >> i do not know. >> information further satellite imagery when do you expect to receive that? >> agi will continue to support this operation.

ability to retask commercial and others to enable us to focus in on an area to support the search will be a priority. i'm unable to give advice on when additional imagery or whether that might hold any further clues. >> you said the other day that the water here was very deep. do you have a more specific idea of how deep the water is? what would be the nature of the sea floor? >> i apologize. i remember taking that question. i didn't check into it further. i understand several thousand meters deep. and i'm speculating a plain floor but i will check it and get information back to you this time. >> sorry. >> so that area is four hours flying time enl ables to spend

two hours perhaps more on station once we get into the search area. it's two hours each o on station. two hours of search time. i can't give you -- pounds or gallons of fuel. >> what would your advice be to the families who have been waiting for 12 days for news of this plane? >> i would advice answer is doing it's level best to find anyone that may have survived if indeed the aircraft came into the southern corridor if indeed these objects are associated with the aircraft that will put us into a more accurate search area than the one we have at the moment. >> is it surprising you detected these objects so soon? >> i don't want to draw too many

conclusions from this. we have two separate forms of analysis here. you might recall on the slide here, two yellow arrows pointing to analysis done by the united states national transportation safety board about the movements of the aircraft and we have objects there i don't want to draw too much from that. this is a lead. it's probably the best lead we have now beneed to get there, find them, see them, assess them to know whether it's meaningful or not they'll be difficult to find they may not be located, associated with the aircraft and we have plenty of experience in that and other searches. >> the defense we have had

offers from other countries for military assets the distance to the search area lends it self to certain types of aircraft that have long range and marine search radar capabilities it's a long way after australian mainland we're working through defense channels to facilitate those channels if other nations are able to support. >> we continue to work with those nations to see how they can assist. >> we're aware of the chinese taking an interesting in searching in the southern area. we continue to work with nations to facilitate their integration into the current search. >> just to be clear -- >> sorry. >> can i add to that we provide regular briefings for the country that's are involved in this search, including rescue coordination center where

attaches come in on a daily basis so we can keep them informed. >> all of your resources are devoted to this area? >> you're correct. this is close enough to the national transportation safety board's assessed area to be a possible sighting. and we want to find them. we want to work out what they are from seeing them. that is our priority at the moment. >> generally in terms of this area of ocean which is fairly pristine, how often would one expect to find a large piece of debris like this floating? is it a common occurrence? or something crews would see large pieces like this floating as a consequence of storms and things? is this unusually large? >> our experience is that there is debris out there.

it can be containers from ships for example falling overboard. and other objects of that type. on this particular occasion, the size and a number located in the same area makes it worth looking at i don't want to speculate about what they are until we get there and see them. >> what happens more about how many pieces have been seen? is it just two? and dimensions of the other pieces? >> no. i can't tell anymore about that at the moment. sorry. >> when you say 24 meters you mean length wise? is it long? what sort of object? >> image on the satellite has a blob with an assessment of 24 meters against it. which is the assessment made by the experts that assessed it.

>> did you have a question sf >> when do you think you can bring that thing, that object back to either to canberra? >> there are many steps that have to happen before we get to that point we have to locate it. confirm it belongs to the aircraft, recover it then bring it a long way back to australia. that would take sometime. we're looking for a confirmation it does belong to the aircraft or it does not. we'll consider what follows from there. >> is there anything that suggests it's part of an aircraft? are there windows on it? markings? anything bits and pieces suggests it's from an aircraft sf >> the imagery is not that precise. >> is there an image, picture of

the object? >> we're working to provide imagery for you. i don't have it with me but we're working to provide images at earliest opportunity. >> when will new information be released today? >> information will be released and media statements as usual. i suggest you talk with media people after the conference. >> what do you think you expect to have more information? based on assets you have out there at the moment? >> it's in the nature of search and rescue operations and i cannot answer that for you. we have four aircraft out there this afternoon. the weather is not playing a game with us. we may get a sighting we may not. we may get it tomorrow, we may not. but we'll continue to do this until we locate those objects or we're convinced we cannot find

them, thank you very much. >> when you might get them? >> that is the australian maritime officer john young speaking from canberra. we do have what appears to be a major development. they have found what he described without using the words, a debris field he described a piece of something that measures 24 meeters or about 78 feet. so a very large section. he went on to describe smaller pieces in the water nearby. so where are we talking about? about 1550 miles south and west of perth australia. the weather is not good. it's going to be a very difficult search but a jet

arrived on screen two hours ago. and that is the beginning of the search process three more jets are on the way. in addition they're sending marine vesels and boats to the area owe begin a search. now, they were specific the satellites had found objects in the water. they are further is hes spiffic to say that the imagery is not clear enough to give them an idea of exactly what it is. now, under very good circumstances, satellite pictures might be able to read a license plate off a vehicle. he mentioned weather conditions are not good. they know they have a piece of something that is about 78 feet in one direction or another. there is another very large piece as well. and he didn't use the phrase he described a debris field around it. they came up with this area based on work by the national

transportation safety board from the united states which had said focus in this area. what the ntsb had done was brought in all of the conflicting information we'd been receiving up to two weeks now. put it together and say what is most credible? what markers make most sense? we know the jet moved to north so when it left kuala lumpur it turned back into the west. that it made what appeared to be according to data given, a number of jogs in a northern arc or southern arc. officials had been saying over the northern arc it would have been over land. it didn't make sense to anyone involved no one would have spotted it. there are many radar stagses along the way. it could have flown until 8:00 or 9:00 in the morning there. so it's possible people should have seen such a thing but there weren't any credible roberts of that. so focusing on this southern arc

taking it down into the indian ocean now, we know the area they believe they found something. two large pieces of something. that they apparently have reason to believe may be the jet. about 1550 miles south and west of perth, australia. australian prime minister spoke and just busted this out in the middle of a parliament session that satellites have spotted this in the indian ocean. from there, they send a jet over to begin searching the area. it went through this maritime safety authority and management there, john young just had those words for us. they know where it is. in a general sense, they know the size of it. but they can't be certain it's part of the jet they can't until they doing thi.

left hand would be indicating one thing. right hand pulls it back. we're past that stage cheerily the national transportation safety board from united states said focus here. australians did that they trained satellites on it and put people on it. they found this debris in the water. now, they sent the jet. three more jets. and we should know in due time whether this is in fact part of the triple seven missing 12 days.

authorities are being careful to remind us weather is not right the search area is large. they're trying to down play expectations of where and when this may be found i want to get to catherine herrige. as far as information making sense this is the first time i can remember it appears at least we have something new. >> when you look at the dots they've laid out in 72 hours, what you see is that this second intense review by national transportation safety board and faa of the existing signals data military civilian then, also satellite factoring in, whether fuel, led them to a targeted area the goal to layout a new trajectory and smaller assets we've just heard is that this

debris found is consistent with that new search area within about 100 miles. the search area that was released last night also contained what they called a drift area so to account for movement, possible movement of debris eastward. ago is an intelligence organization mr the department of defense in australia. it's the lead geo spacial intelligence agency for that country. intelligence community in australia also in the united states and elsewhere, have been fully engaged on this and heard the at the news conference they're going to refocus it and refine it with the use of civilian satellites. all of this does lead to a series of dots which are consistent which we have not seen before in two weeks.

the size of the debris, one object as you rightly point out is about 80 meters. this is a piece >> 24 meters, 78 feet, thank you. this is is consistent. there is a tail section with vertical fin or the horizontal stabilizer. i think you'll agree expectations were very, very low in this is in the sense that they're finding images and it's going to take a significant period of time to hoke yat this debris apart from what is on the

satellite. and third, they're heavy to work to this what may be a debris field and then, back to shore. what we're told from the pentagon yesterday is that it would take about three hours one time, start to finish. two hours, two hours travel time, and then one hour on site so there is a limited window and as you highlight there are weather factors as well. >> it's important to remember that during the crash of air france they found debris in mater of days and years before they were able to find block boxes there. >> and they believe they

>> if they do find debris in a

new search area. >> yes. he didn't use the words debris field. i was wondering if you didn't use the word intentionally as if someone said don't use this. >> certainly debris field is something you do point out. >> i want to get to a former commercial pilot. there are many things that are remaining up in the air f they have found this plane, and we do not know yet whether they have, if they have found it, why in the world was it there? who changed the flight pattern and why? what is the motivation here? why would you do it? we don't have answers. >> no. we don't. ways trying to imagine the map

in my head, of where we last saw the airplane over the gulf of thailand. and then, it made that left turn, heading west, southwest. if it continued in a straight line, it almost sounds to be like this debris is located nlong that line somewhere. >> i don't have a map in front of me. >> is that the way it would look to you? >> that's how it appears. the reason we are putting a map up with a specific location to the 1,500 miles south and west of perth. we could do that obviously. but to do that would just -- he doesn't mean exactly southwest. it's not due southwest of there. they don't know exactly where it is. it's a moving target. >> that's true. >> but to say that it's along the line as described to us for the past three days, is absolutely true. >> yeah, and of course what we

also have to keep in mind, is that if it is this debris, it's only going to be some pieces that we're going to find. it's going to, as you said, it's going to take time to find it. but of course we'll want to know where the rest of it is. as you mentioned earlier, the air france accident, that was the initial. that was the one clue that confirmed for us -- [ inaudible ]