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difficult. they have planes in the air and ships on the way and the search is under way. that search will continue until they have decided what it is that they have found. until then, we will wait and we will maintain a clo i'm shepard smith in new york. our coverage continues as warrants. thank you. good morning, and welcome to an early edition of fox & friends. i'm heather childers. and i'm ainsley earhardt. >> if you're just joining us, objects discovered in the indian ocean could be related to the missing plane. >> take a look. these are brand new images from the australian government. they show a possible piece of debris from the plane. a short time ago, australia's prime minister tony abbott announcing that their navy and the u.s. navy are now rushing to
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that location. >> a location they described as 1500 miles off the coast of australia but he warned the public not to jump to conclusions. >> i should tell the house, and we must keep this in mind. the task of locating these objects will be extremely difficult, and it may turn out that they are not related to the search for flight mh 370. >> so let's listen in now to the press conference that was held earlier this morning. >> the maritime safety authority is coordinating the southern r malaysian airlines aircraft with assistance from the australian defense courforce, the new zeal air force and the united states navy. we have received satellite imagery of objects possibly related to the search for the missing aircraft, flight mh 370.
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the rcc australia received an expert assessment for that salt light imagery this morning, 20th of march. the images were captured by satellite. they may not be related to the aircraft. the assessment of these images was provided by the australian geo spatial administration or ago, as a possible debris that has been part of the southern search operation since the 15th of march. further images are expected after commercial satellites were redirected to take high-resolution images of the areas of interest. these will be provided in due course. four aircraft have been
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reoriented to locate the objects. approximately 2,500 kilometers southwest of perth as a result of this information. a royal australian air force orion aircraft arrived in the area about 1:50 this afternoon. or further, three aircraft have been tasked by rcc australia to the area later today, including a royal new zealand air force orion and a united states navy poseidon air kraflt. the poseidon aircraft should be on scene now. the second australian orion departed at 2:00 this afternoon and should be on scene at 6:00 this afternoon. the new zealand orion is due to depart at 4:00 this afternoon and should be on scene at 8:00.
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a royal australian air force c-130 hercules aircraft has been tasked to drop data marker bu s buoys. they are providing information about water movement to assist in drift modeling. they will provide an ongoing reference point if the task of relocating the objects becomes protracted. a merchant ship that responded to a shipping broadcast issued by rcc australia on monday is expected to arrive in the area about 6:00, having been diverted by rcc australia. the royal australian warship hma success is on route to the area, but it's some days away. she is equipped to locate any objected located and proven to be from mh 370.
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the focus is to continue the search operation with all available ships and aircraft. the ships and aircraft are searching for any signs of the missing aircraft. weather conditions are moderate in the southern indian ocean where the search is taking place. however, poor visibility has been reported, and this will hamper both air and satellite efforts. amsa continues to hold concern for the crew and passengers on board. we are happy to take any questions. >> what do they appear to be? >> the objects are relatively indistinct on the imagery. i don't profess to be an expert in assessing the imagery, but those who are expert indicate
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they are credible sightings. they are of reasonable size and probably awash with water. moving up and down out of the surface. >> do you have an idea of the size? like the size of a basketball or seat cushion or much larger. >> no much larger. the largest item i've seen has been assessed at 24 meters and another one smaller than that. and a number of other images in the general area of the biggest one. >> you said the aircraft arrived at 1:50. that's almost two hours now. have you had any report? >> the aircraft has reported on the weather on scene. and that's where i get the information that there's poor visibility in the area. >> that aircraft on the scene, has that relocated the pieces,
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the wreckage that was sighted on the satellite? >> no. there have been no sightings yet. >> what will the merchant ship do if it gets to the site and there are objects there? will it pick them up? >> the most likely scenario is that an aircraft will find an object if it is findable and report back an accurate gps position and amsa would task the ship to the area and attempt to see it. that would be our first chance to get a close up look at whatever the objects might be and progressively advance the identification of whether they're associated with this search or not. >> when was the satellite imagery actually captured? do you know what time? what day? >> we were provided it by the australian a.g.o. this morning. but i might ask my colleague to
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speak about the imagery. >> it has been captured by satellites passing over various areas. the task of analyzing imagery is quite difficult. it requires going frame by frame. the moment that this imagery was discovered to reveal a possible object that might indicate a debris field, we have passed the information across from defense to amsa. >> is it fair to say that if they have a look at it and believe that it is credibly debris from the plane that we can draw conclusions from that, that there's a fair chance that it is? >> quite simply, it is credible enough to divert the research to this area on the basis it provides a promising lead to what might be wreckage from the debris. >> well, fox news correspondent has piloting experience and joins us now live in washington.
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doug, what can you tell us about what is happening right now based upon your experience and the latest news? >> obviously these images are getting a lot of attention right now. and unfortunately, we're just dealing with satellite imagery, so it's difficult to make out the shape of these objects. we know one of them is quite big, almost 80 feet. and if you compare that with the size of the aircraft, you've got a length of more than 200 feet, a wingspan of about 200 feet. so what part could that be if in fact it is part of the wreckage. it could be the horizontal stable ierz as well as the vertical fin. there are clear aircraft markings on that vertical fin. so if in fact that is the fin floegt the floating there, it might be easily recognizable once they get an aircraft on scene and once they get ships on scene.
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we've heard from the australian authorities that they have diverted some ships to get there as soon as they can. i want to talk about this search area. we have all kinds of markings on this map because of the way the search has changed again and again. but everything began to focus on the southern part of this satellite arc of the probability of where the aircraft could be. it turned to perth australia which is where these objects were found. now we're kind of jumping a couple steps ahead here. but if in fact these are pieces of wreckage from this aircraft, one of the first things they're going to have to do is trace this back to the point of or gin. not an easy thing to do. but there is a current here that runs counter clock wise. so they may have to trace it back in this direction to figure out where in fact the plane would have made contact, again, assuming this is actual wreckage. you can imagine for the families
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of those on board this aircraft, this is a very difficult time, just waiting to see if in fact this is wreckage from this plane. but everything about this seems to make sense. we're going to have to wait for an actual confirmation here. >> the plane took off and was heading north to china. this was found south of that off the coast of australia. what do you make of that? >> it's consistent with some of the things we've heard. it's consistent with the left turn that was picked up by malaysian radar and now we have learned thai radar. and there was that constant pinging from the aircraft indicating that it was on this arc. the combination of the left turn, that would make it consistent with what could be this aircraft. >> it helps to have a pilot explain all this for us. i use all the terms that you're using, terms that we would not know if we're not usinged to
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flying planes. thanks, doug. >> thanks, guys. >> we want to take a look at the anatomy of a black box. they are built to withstand crashes and can withstand impact. the biggest issue now is the battery life of the black box. the batteries are designed to last 30 days. since we are already on day 12, there are just 18 days left to find the black box. if we take a look back, we can see the underwater locator beacon. as soon as the flight recorder hits the water it begins emitting a ping once a second. and it can transmit from depth as far as 20,000 feet. >> and the box has some 3,000 prer am ters, airspeed, flight speed and distance. >> now that we're zeroing in maybe we will be able to do that. >> robert mark is on the phone with us now. robert, thank you so much for
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joining us this morning. >> caller: thank you. >> with the latest developments, this seems to be the best lead that we have had so far. they're mentioning the largest piece of debris measured around 85 feet, at least according to the satellite imagery. how promising do you think this is? and do you think that these are pieces of the plane? >> caller: well, i think that considering the fact that for two weeks we've had nothing but wild-goose chases, i think that the australian government focusing in the way that they did and actually making the news that they narrowed the search yesterday was already hope. it may not eventually turn out to be the kind of hope we're expecting. i mean, that maybe this is a piece of the airplane, which means that perhaps the airplane has been destroyed. but at least we're going to have something to go on here, very soon. but of course, as the prime minister said, we still don't
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know for certain that what we're going to find, once they locate this metal is that it is absolutely from mh 370. it's just unknown yet. >> robert, as you were mentioning, the prime minister said locating the objects, a, will be difficult, and b, could turn out not to be related at all to this search. how long will it be before we do fine out some more information? >> caller: as the prime minister also mentioned, the visibility in the area is not good at the moment. now i haven't seen forecasts of that area yet. but all we can do is try to locate the aircraft or i'm sorry, try to locate the metal as best we can through, you know, airplanes flying low, at least with radar that may pick it up and send a ship if to take a better look at it. and until we get closer we're not going to know much. >> a lot has been discussed in terms of theories.
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there have been so many theories as to what possibly happened to this plane. what about catastrophic failure inside the cockpit, some sort of fi fire? this area where they think they may have discovered the plane now, does that lead you to believe one theory more than another? >> caller: well, it certainly looks stranger than it did to me last night when we were talking on megyn kelly's show about it. and if you take the last point that the airplane was known to have been up there in the gulf of thailand and it made that left turn, and they believe it headed back to the west-southwest across the malaysian peninsula. and you look at where they think this piece, these pieces of metal are located now, doing it off the top of my head in the middle of the night, it almost sounds like it's probably along a fair lly straight line, givin
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even allowing for some drift. that means if it did make a left turn, it just continued and continued and continued, which now really doesn't make any sense at all to the, we hijacked the airplane to use it for something later, because it sounds like they may just have flown it on until it ran out of fuel and hit the water, but then that opens up a whole other set of possibilityiipossibilities. >> it's starting to get dark there in australia, but hopefully we'll have more soon. thank you, mark. >> caller: you're welcome. >> still, the search under way for that possible debris. from the depth of the water to the terrain, we will explain what search teams are now up against. so stay with us.
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officials say that the objects appear to be fairly large, the biggest estimated to be around 80 feet long. >> that is one third of the length or the width, if you include the wingspan, of the plane. >> so what lies ahead now is the tough task of searching that indian ocean, which, by the way, is tens of thousands of feet deep. >> maria here is now with a look at what the search teams are facing. it's 4:21 in the afternoon there. >> yeah. that's right. and conditions are not good out here across parting of the southern indian ocean. we do have a disturbance moving through that region and it's helping to produce the very poor visibility conditions reported. very choppy seas, and that system is forecast to move out of the region over the next couple days. we do expect quieter conditions as we move ahead. but again, there is a
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disturbance moving through that area. and the indian ocean is one of the most remote areas of the world. there's very poor satellite coverage. the last known position it wasa1 thousand miles from perth. so based on the currents in the area, the debris from the plane would probably have gone in the water 300 to 400 kilometers from where that debris is believed to be found. temperatures out here in the search area, it's very close to the southern ocean, and it surrounds antarctica. so temperatures would drop very quickly. temperatures would be dropping off quickly at about 40 degrees
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latitude. so we're very close to some very cold water, but that said, the indian ocean is one of the warmest in the world. so very warm temperatures expected out there. this is also a very deep ocean with an average depth of 12,000 feet. so two miles. that makes it very difficult to find any debris that could have gone to the deep part of the water. the very deepest point of the indian ocean, 24,000 feet. it's covered by a length knowns a the plateau surrounded by water as deep as 16,400 feet deep, so this is going to make it very tough finding debris out here. of course this has not been confirmed. but that's what we know right now. >> a lot of planes out there or at least on the way to help in this search, including the u.s. navy. >> we hope that they're very
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careful. again, there's a disturbance moving through. that system should move out in the next few days. >> that would be good news. thank you, maria. >> and going to be dark soon, so they have a few hours left. >> chuck nash is a former navy pilot and a fox news analyst. thanks for joining us. >> caller: good morning. >> you've logged more than 4300 hours of flight time. an officer in the navy, retired now. served for 25 years. lots of experience when it comes to this kind of thing. the prime minister of australia was saying that australian search crews are out there. the u.s. navy and new zealand search crews is where is malaysia in all of this? why aren't they sending search crews? >> caller: malaysia is basically infective at this point. we've got the u.s. navy, the australians and new zealand who are providing aircraft and ships. and we need to get out there
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right now, find that area, pick up the debris, localize the serial numbers that are on each of those kpoenants and identify this aircraft. and if that's what it is, then we've found it. i mean, this is, previously, it was a ten-day record to try to find debris. we're a couple days past that. but we are well within the record for the batteries of the flight data recorders, so i think we've really, at this point, i think we've found it. we just need to get the debris, pull it up. there are serial numbers. there are stamps. there are little records on each of these pieces of records, of data, and we need to pull that out and, and reconcile that. and once we do, and we find out
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that that's really it, then, fine, get down and get those data, the flight data recorders. >> captain nash, yesterday a lot was said in reference to this co-pilot and his last known words which were goodnight. now where was that in terms of location as to where we're looking now with this alleged or possible debris that's been found? >> caller: you know, at this point, we don't know, because we don't know whether he was part of this or he was a, basically, used in the process. but, you know, we just have to at this point get down to finding the flight data recorders. they have pingers on them. we have about 18 days left. and when we went to air france 447 they narrowed that down to
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5,000 square miles, and it took a long time, and it took two years to actually find the flight data recorders. so that was a 5,000 square mile thing. we started this thing with 2.25 million square miles. so we have already advanced past that. we now need to get our aircraft down there, get the sonic buoys in the water and find those flight data recorders. >> captain nash, real quickly. you said i think we have found it. why do you think so? >> caller: if they think they've found the articles of the aircraft that have the paint scheme of a malaysian aircraft airliner, then how many malaysian aircraft airliner
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paint schemes are floating around in that part of the southern indian ocean? zero. there's only, actually, not zero. there's only one, the one we're looking for. and if that's it, then let's not knock around on this. let's just jump on it, find it, get those sonic buoys in the water, find those data recorders and let's define this once and for all. >> we really appreciate your expertise this morning, and we may ask you to come back with a little bit more. thank you. >> still ahead, if there is debris from the plane, what happened? >> one theory, fire on board. we've heard that one. >> we'll exnor that as our coverage continues. next
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back to this early education of fox & friends. >> a fox news alert on the missing plane. objects discovered in the indian ocean could be related to the missing plane. >> these images you're seeing, brand new images from the australian government. they show what could be debris from the plane. the objects were spotted in the southern indian ocean, more than 1500 miles off the coast of australia. >> here's more now from the press conference that was held earlier this morning in australia. >> we have been in this business of doing search and rescue and using satellite images before, and they do not always turn out to be related to the search, even if they look good. so we will hold our views on that until the site is close up. >> what kind of satellite was it that spotted the debris and whose was it? >> i'm unable to advise that. i don't know.
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>> when do you expect to receive that. >> a.g.o. will continue to provide support for this. to support this search will become a priority, but i'm unable to give you advice on when any additional imagery or whether it might hold further clues. >> you said the walter was very deep. do you have any idea of how deep the water is and what would be the nature of the sea floor? >> i apologize. i remember taking that question, but i didn't check any further. i understand it would be several thousand meters deep. and i'm speculating. i will check it. and i will get the information back to you this time. i will check it and i will get the information back to you this time.
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so that area is now four hours flying time. and suspend two hours maybe a little longer once we get into the search area. it's two hours of endurance once we're on station. it's two hours of search time that we can devote. i can't give you how many pounds or gallons of fuel that might equate to. >> what would your advice be to the families who have been waiting for 12 days for news of this plane? >> i, i would advise that weigh are doing our very best to find anyone that may have survived. if in fact the aircraft came into the southern corridor, and if indeed these objects spotted by satellite are associated with the aircraft, that will put us in a more accurate search area than the one we have at the moment. >> how would you describe it as
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finding a needle in a haystack. >> i don't want to draw too many conclusions from this. we have two separate forms of analysis here. you might recall on the slide here, the two yellow arrows pointing to analysis done by the united states national transportation safety board about the movements of the aircraft. that has focused searching, and we have now seen satellite imagery of two objecting s we have now seen satellite imagery of two objecting or a number of objects there. this is a lead, it is probably the best lead we have right now. but we need to get there, find them, see them, assess them. they'll be difficult to find, and they may not be located or associated with the aircraft, and we have plenty of experience of that with other searches.
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>> are there other assistance offers to australia? >> defense, we have had offer g offerinofferins potentially from other countries. the distance to the search area limits itself to planes with distance capabilities. >> you haven't taken on any nations at the moment? >> we are continuing to work with the nations to see how they can assist. >> the chinese? >> we are aware of the chinese taking an interest in searching in the southern area. but we are working with nations. >> just to be clear -- >> can i add to that that we provide regular briefings for the countries that are involved
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in this search. including in the coordination center, where attack as come attaches come in regular basis. >> this is close enough to the national transportation safety board's area. and we want to find them and work out what they are from seeing them. that's our priority at the moment. >> how, in terms of this area of ocean, which is fairly pristine, how often would one expect to find a large piece of debris like this floating? is it a common occurrence? or perhaps aircraft crews, would they see large pieces of debris
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floating as a consequence of storms and things or is this large? >> our experience is that there is debris out there. it, it can be containers from ships, for example, falling overboard and other objectings this type. in this occasion, the size and that there are a number of them makes it of interest. i don't want to speculate until we get there and we see them. >> can you tell us how many more plea pieces have been found and the dimensions of the pieces? >> no, i can't. >> you mean length wise? what sort of object? >> the image on the satellite image has a blob with an
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assessment of 24 meters against it which is the assessment that has been made bit -- by the expert that assessed it. >> when do you think you can bring that object back to canburra to assess it? >> we have to assess it, and bring it a long way back to australia. so that would take some time. what we're looking for is a confirmation that it does belong to the aircraft or it does not. and we'll consider what follows from that. >> is there anything that suggested it's at least part of a arn aircraft? are their windows or markings?
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or anything that suggest that it's part of an aircraft? >> the images are not that precise. >> when will you have a clear picture of that object? >> we're willing to provide imagery for you. i don't have it with me at the moment. but we are working to provide it for media purposes at the earliest opportunity. >> when will the new information be released today? >> information will be released in media statements as usual. i suggest you talk with the media people after the conference. >> when do you expect to have results with the research equipment that you have? >> i can't answer that for you. we have four aircraft out there this afternoon. we may get a sighting we may
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not. we may get it tomorrow, we may not. but we will continue to do this until we locate those objects or we're convinced that we cannot find them. >> we'll keep you posted on that information. hopefully we'll hear something soon. >> we have a pilot joining us live now with more information. doug, what can you tell us more about what you're hearing and what these search crews are looking for, and also having experience inside the cockpit. take us inside there and what do you think was happening inside the cockpit at the time? >> boy, at this time it's anyone's guess. the fact that they have found this at the extreme range of the fuel, they may have run out of gas. but one of the things they're looking at here is the size of the one of these pieces being nearly 80 feet. that is certainly much larger than typical ocean debris.
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but you can't rule out ocean debris, either, you have a lot of shipping containers floating out there. once they get ships there to see if they can inspect it, to see if it is from the plane, but when you look at the plane itself. 209 feet long, 200 foot wingspan. that could be from the tail section of the plane that includes the horizontal stabilizer as well as the fin. and remember, the fin has malaysia aramarkinir markings o. this was found just southwest of australia. that was the extreme track of that plane based on the most recent satellite data they have. so it's not too far from there. and when you consider the circulation of currents in this part of the world. the indian ocean goes
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counterclockwise. it might indicate a crash site to the southwest. and that's going to be crucial information. it's been so long since the plane went down it will take time to trace it back to the splashdown. >> the weather is bad there. it's unpredictable. we're going to take a look at the task at hand for the search crews.
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if you're just waking up, we are following a huge development in the case of the missing malaysia flight. >> two objects that could be debris from the jet spotted on satellite off the cost of australia. you are looking at those brand new images from the australian government. we want to go now, live, to our aviation expert on the phone
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with us, retired air force colonel dan hampton. how reliable do you think this information is and do you think this is the most promising lead so far? >> caller: i this it's the most promising lead so far. how reliable it is, we'll see. i know you said it before, and i'll say it any way. we need to be cautious. we have seen how other networking have irresponsibly reported this in the past few days and nobody wants to do that again. they have found a long piece, 80 feet or so, to me, means it could possibly be a wing of the you know, there's a lot of sea junk floating around out there as others have said. that's certainly true. but this is in a general area, 500 miles of where some thought
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this could have gone down. it's very promising. i think chuck said there's serial numbers, part numbers everywhere, and that's true. once they recover the piece, then we'll know. >> i'm grad ylad you mentioned we need to be cautious. the prime minister of australia said locating the objects mile be difficult. the search crews are out there. we're sending ships in, planes over the debris that was found, and how much longer do you think it will take until we do know, until we have confirmation that this is the missing plane, if it is? >> caller: well, i wouldn't like to go on the record with a guess like that, to tell you the truth. you know, a lot of people these days succumb to what i call the google earth syndrome. they stare at a map on a computer screen and think that somehow reflects reality, and it
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really doesn't, especially over the water. you've not waves, currents, bad weather. you just never know. it's a very tricky thing. and then they've got to get in the water to the point where they can find an identifiable piece of this thing. so, again, your guess is as good as mine there. >> the plane took off march 8. and australia, now it's now been 13 days. there were 239 people on board this plane. all of those families searching for answers. the possibility of any survivors. of course there will be a search and rescue effort at this time as well, is that correct? >> caller: that's true. >> what will that entail. >> caller: it's going to be covered thankfully by the australians, the americans and the new zealanders.
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i we don't need permission to search in international waters for an airliner that's gone down especially with some of our people on board. if this turns out to be the wreckage, based upon the current and the drift, that's an awfully awfully deep part of the ocean. and the part of the airplane that's most likely to float would be the wing. they're the part that's most likely to come off in an impact. the fuselage is heavier, full of equipment. it's a more massive piece of this airplane. it might have sank. and if it sank in a deep part of this, we'll see about getting it out. i hope so. >> colonel dan hampton with us live. thank you for your service and for joining us this morning, colonel. >> caller: thanks very much.
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we'll hope for the best. >> the ocean up to 12,000 feet deep in some areas. this new discovery could debunk what many have been focussing on for days, and that could be pilot sabotage. a boeing 777 instructor joined shepard smith a few moments ago, his theory, possibly a fire on board. >> caller: this also explains why there was no commune yags or the acars dropping off. when there's a fire, these components drop off by the protection circuiting and perhaps by pilotis turning them off, because when you have a fire, any kind of electrical fire, you start turning off components. and perhaps the radios were not working where they could not have made any contact. again, as i have mentioned on several interviewiinterviews, a
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fire is probably the worst-case scenario. a fire propagates so quickly that there's no time. there was an ups 747 freighter crash a few years ago that was carrying lithium ion batteries and they crashed in dubai. that was very much in my mind every time i saw this. and, again, i heard some news that this aircraft may have been carrying a shipment of lithium ion batteries in the cargo department. >> so many theories now. we're going to talk to mike boyd now. i understand that you think that this debris is debris that we've already looked at, that investigators have already seen and it's just moved, is that
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correct? >> caller: the satellite picture was hours or days ago and things are going to be moving. they may not be able to find it again. as we just heard, there's a lot of junk floating in the ocean. it could have been that. it could have been any number of things. i think we're excited that we found it, but i'm not sure, that this is not going to die down. it's going to difficult to find those pieces again. >> the last known correspondence we had from this plane was around 1:19. it was as it moved toward vietnamese airspace. explain to us looking at these satellite images, the area that we're searching now in reference to where we last heard from the plane. >> caller: it's not even in the same galaxy. that was heading north towarding neat number. and now what we're looking at is something south of perth,
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australia in a different part of the world. certainly the plane would have been able to reach there, but the question is, what would have caused it to do this. it is possible something incapacitated the people in the airplane and it just flew. i don't think so. turn.s information that the there was information very accurate apparently, that someone had programmed that turn in there. i just have a question right now whether or not we're chasing a dream or chasing a hope and not really, whether they're going to find anything or not is the real issue. >> we were interviewing a captain nash a few minutes ago and said he thought they found it. there looked like there were mashings on the debris, could it be markings? >> caller: there are certain surveillance satellites that can tell you whether a soviet plane
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is getting an oil change. i don't now what kind of a satellite image this is or isn't. if they find something with paint on it, that's a good indication. >> is it possible that a fire or catastrophic event could have turned off those transponders? >> caller: sure, we don't know. i think it's unlikely, but a lot of things in aviation are unlikely when it comes to an accident. i'm thinking something else took place. my guess is as good or as bad as anybody else's. >> thank you for joining us. >> caller: my pleasure. >> our coverage continues in just minutes. we will continue to speak with experts for you. we will continue to look at the path of the plane and take you back to a timeline as to exactly what has happened up to this point. >> so many different theories. some are saying there could be a fire on board. some are saying based on these
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>> good morning you are you are watching "fox & friends first". >> i am ainsley earhardt. >> i am heather childers. >> take a look, these are the brand new satellite images from the australia government. they show the possible piece of debris from the malaysian plane. >> at the press conference they spoke about the latest development. >> katie, what did we learn at the press conference? >> they have identified two objects one is about 24 meters that's about 18 feet
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