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>> good morning you are you are watching "fox & friends first". >> i am ainsley earhardt. >> i am heather childers. >> take a look, these are the brand new satellite images from the australia government. they show the possible piece of debris from the malaysian plane. >> at the press conference they spoke about the latest development. >> katie, what did we learn at the press conference? >> they have identified two objects one is about 24 meters that's about 18 feet long.
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now these satellite images were taken as far back as sunday but the authorities have only just started to put the pieces of this puzzle together. what is significant about this is the plane was on one of those potential trajectories. this is a path it could have taken. we must emphasize the grainy satellite images they have to p find the wreckage to confirm it may or may not be the plane that the australian authorities say it could be a possibly very strong lead. >> p the image ray was discovered. quite simply, it is critical enough to divert the research to this area on the basis it provide to what might be wreckage. >> australian military planes as
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well as u.s. and new zealand aircraft are headed out to the area. they are ex pecks the to reach t -- expected to reach the wreckage shortly. it may have drifted over the past few days. this is a wide searched area. australian forces say this is poor disability in this area. we have had many false leads in the last. we had the false lead. it may have been found but a sad and worrying moment for relatives of those who may have been on board. >> maybe we can provide closure for them and at least something. >> katie logan live for us in london. he joins us live in washington. what do we know now about the search area and what happens next? >> well, it seems to be the side
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of these objects that is really raising alarm bells. they are so public about this raising hopes that in fact maybe something has been found. you heard them talk about this but one of those pieces 80 feet long. take a look at the context of the overall aircraft 209 feet from stem to sterm, wing span 200 feet. even the tail section of the aircraft is quite collaring and it has clear markings identifying it as a malaysian airliner. that could possibly assist if we are talking about one of the surfaces that has been found. consistent with one of the flight pads one of the things they have to consider is ocean drift it has to go counterclockwise. if you found an object here you would expect it first entered the water to the southwest of
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that. if in fact they can confirm it. it has the ability to penetrate the surface a bit. it can be very useful going after the debris of this size. we have to get more planes in the search area and more ships to see if they can get their hands on some of this debris. >> it will be a tough it's can. i am reading in the indian ocean an average depth of 12,000 feet that's 2 miles down. even if the debris is p floating on the water the black box could be below it or miles away. >> exactly. the other thing i will point out
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is air france flight, they found a black box in that aircraft after a longer period of time long after it stopped pinging. it is possible to find the degree. >> once they find it, we won't lose information, right? >> the information should still be there the battery runs out after about 30-days or so. >> on top of the depth of it 24,000 feet deep asthma rhea l molina was telling us this debris could have moved west as far as 180 miles. they have a large area to search for. >> they are looking how far that debris may have moved. it has been 11 or 12 days it will be hard to pinpoint where
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it went into the water>> doug luzader thank you so much for your expertise. >> you have been no doubt listening to this latest information. what are your thoughts on wasn't this is a solid lead and if this in fact are pieces of this missing plane. >> there have been several reports of the past that are unfounded. a lot of us are holding out hope that people are alive. number one. number two, there is going to be debris in the indian ocean above thailand and over me an mar. >> that's what wifz asking
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earlier. the last known communication it was headed toward vietnamese airspace and now we are looking in in this area specifically off of the coast of australia. would this plane have had enough fuel at this point could it possibly have run out of fuel and crashed into the ocean? >> we are not even talking about vietnam. we are talking about above vietnam, above thailand and they were at the mianmar location. there's no way it can be there. somebody has a lot of explaining to do if we find it in the indian ocean. all of that information led us in the wrong direction and really prolonged this investigation which i find very, very disturbing if that was the case. i am holding out these people will be found alive and hopefully the other reports will be unfounded. >> the chances are slim as shep
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was reporting earlier. it would be great if some of the survivors were floating on rafts and had food and water with them. it would be a great story. we will offer our prayers and hope that happens. what do you think happened here? >> vr many theories there but more and more one of the initial theories i talked about 12 days ago was that i believe this airplane was hijacked and i believe the airplane landed some place. is it possible something else happened to it? yes. absent those facts we don't know. tktd be almost anything that happened. >> why do you think hijacking? >> the second transponder going
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off and the system being disabled and remember reports said it was heading toward south asia, in south asia heading up in that directions. how can it be over water and land at the same time? there are so many conflicting facts and even with the malaysian government as we know faktdz and time lines have been changing. >> hopefully this will provide answers. >> day 12 a-- day 13 into this search. is the tough task of searching the ind nian ocean which is ten of thousands of feet deep. >> what conditions the search teams are facing over there. >> this is a very tough search. the location we are looking at is a remote area we typically
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think of the indian ocean azriel tively warm in the low 70s and 80s. 40 degrees latitude south you see the temperatures quickly dropping. we could be seeing temperatures in the low 60s maybe in the 50's. temperatures tend to drop off quickly. we have an area of low pressure. we have poor visibility that of course is making the search even tougher. once it moves toward the east and out of this region we are looking at quieter condition coe potential the indian ocean very deep as
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well. we have average 12,000 feet deep. some of the deepest points 24,000 feet deep. we are looking at the storm system moving through this region. it will be much tougher the kind of system will be there. all of the cloud cover associated with the storm system. >> stay with us. continuing coverage on this missing malaysian flight. possible debris found. we will be right back.
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>> a huge development this morning in the case of the missing malaysian flight. two objects that could be debris from the jets spotted on satellite off the coast of oughted australia.
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>> rescue coordination of australia received satellite imagery have objects possibly relating to the search for the missing aircraft flight m h370. four aircraft have been reoriented to locate the objects possibly 12,500 kilometers southwest. >> you are looking at the brand new images from the australwes australian government. they are rushing to find this in the indian ocean. >> it is the third largest body of water. it has an average depth where they expect the debris to be is one place where a commercial airline could crash without a ship spotting it a radar spotting it or without a satellite picking it up. they do appear to be fairly
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large. the biggest appears to be estimated to be around 80 feet long. >> that is about a third of the links or the west if you include the wing span. of they have consultant and president of integrated aviation solution he joins us on the phone. good morning to you, ken. >> good morning. we are providing more information. press conference coming up in 10, 15 minutes. we are going to go live with that. as of now the latest press conference the off fifrp shallings were saying locating the objects may not turn out to be related at all to this search. how long before we find out if if it is the debris of the plane. >> it is dark there now so at daybreak australian time we will get more clarity on this. the plane -- there was a t-3
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prop airplane about a 13 hour duration. it is five hours possibly from the coast of the area where the debris was found. they got on the station there two, three hours looking to expand the search area. it will be dark. the primary concern is to look initially. there is a possibility. they want to rule that out if there are aren't survivors it will go to recovery mode. >> we tested -- touched on this a little bit. there are these so-called blackout zones or areas in which planes cannot be spotted or tracked by satellite or radar. this is actually one of those areas from what i understand
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where this plane could have gone down and not have been spotted. how many of those areas exist? >> those exist in many places when you are under oceanic procedures. once you are outside of land or outside of radar range, you are not in any sort of physical contact if you disable the airplane system. swavlling around t -- traveling the globe you won't have data much like if you were driving in your car cell phone would drop out and come back in. those are little spots around the globe and they do experience that. when you are traveling outside of land outside of radar range if you disable some of the communications in the airplane then you are flying in blind if you will and to other controllers in other aircrafts aren't able to see you.
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>> do you believe that that equipment was in fatentionally disabled as we have heard from some and intentionally thrown to this area then? >> it is sort of leaning in that direction. i like to use the aircraft investigation model and the opposed crash forensic data provided that would be a telltale sign. it is certainly leaning that way that equipment was disabled because it clearly wasn't tra e transmitting the normal data other aircraft will transmit. it appears that the aircraft did continue on a flight path. >> ken christian son, aviation consultant. thank you for joining us this morning. press conference coming up at 5:30. we will have the latest developments. we will be right back. co: i've always found you don't know you need a hotel room
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>> a satellite spots debris that may be from the missing malaysian plane. >> they are heading to that area. some 1500 miles or five hours southwest. australian officials say it is possible the debris is from malaysian flight m 8370. >> we must keep this in mind. the task of locating these oblts will be extremely difficult. it may turnout they are not related to the search for flight m h370. >> a u.s. spotter plane on the way to the scene also reportedly detected several large objects
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in the water in that that aim same area. >> it has been 12 days since it vanished. the family of those on board are waiting for answers. >> one american family urgently waiting for answers. >> this news is a sign they could get answers finally but it is also a sign their loved ones may be lost. the families gathered to hear the latest news they were given phone numbers but after they found the numbers didn't work there was an outburst of emotions there.
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(indiscernible arguing) >> he was expressing the anger of families told about the possible fate of their missing family. one family watching and waiting for word on phillip wood. the facebook page of family and friends said this morning please bring all of t-- keep all of th passengers and loved ones in your positive thoughts and prayers as the latest report unfolds. it boiled over yesterday when one woman interrupted a news conference demanding information about her missing son. again today's news being watched very closely by family members who have been through 12 days of pure agony so far.
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>> a mother pleading for any information about her lost son. that breaks your heart. >> john bolton joins us now with more insights. thank you for joining us. we were watching the ang wash of families looking for answers. give us your opinion on how you think malaysia handled the situation so far? >> so far they have handled it very badly. given our capabilities they were ashamed embarrassed worried about the reputation of the malaysian airline state airline and the country. animosity among tensions with china i think inhibited them. that is why when the united
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states, australia and others began to get into the picture the odds improved we might actually find the airplane. >> we are learning this morning australian military crews, u.s. navy crews, new zealand crews are out there searching. we are waiting for a press conference with the malaysian officials. where are they? why aren't they taking part? >> they don't have the capabilities. beginning with how to handle a crisis situation with data coming in that is incomplete and conflicting. let's hope we have now begun to this mystery. two or three-days china published a satellite imagery of debris in the water. everybody thought that was the plane that turned out to be wrong, too. until we get more positive
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identification obviously you have to suspend judgment on what it out there. >> the objects, the yellow object turned out to be a piece of sea crash they thought they saw. there has been speculation about what happened to the plane terrorism hijacking a fire on board. what do you believe happened given the information that is coming out this morning. >> i believe we don't have adequate information to make a judgment. i think a lot of these are valid as many others until we look at the structure of the plane to see what might have caused it if there was a fire in the hole that is important we won't be able to correct it until we get the airplane. until we get the airplane one
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theory is as good as another. >> former ambassador to the u.n. thank you for joining us and giving us your insight. >> we will continue coverage of the latest information-coming up. possible debris from the missing malaysian flight. stay with us. aflac. ♪ aflac, aflac, afc! ♪ [ both sigh ] ♪ ugh! ♪ you told me he was good, dude. yeah he stinks at golf. but he was great at getting my claim paid fast. how fast? mine got paid in 4 days. wow. that's awesome. is that legal? big fat no. [ male announcer ] find out how fast aflac can pay you
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>> right now transportation forces will the latest on the missing planes. let's take a look at them. >> good evening members. (indiscernible)
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(indiscernible) >> ladies and gentlemen to start off the press conference i call on (indiscernible) >> at 10:00 this morning the prime minister received a call from the prime minister of australia informing him that two possible objects related to the search for flight 370 has been identified in the southern indian ocean. the authorities also briefed me on the situation and the australian foreign minister was spoken to the foreign minister of australia.
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the maritime continues to search for the missing malaysian airline aircraft within the search and rescue area with assistance from australian defense force and the u.s. navy. they have received satellite imagery possibly related to the essential search. they received satellite imagery. the images were captured satellite. they may not be related to the aircraft. the assessment of these images was provided by australian intelligence organization as a possible indication of southwest. as a result of this information four aircraft 400 kilometers
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southwest. australian air force arrived in the area at about 10:50 a.m. another aircraft has been found brought to the area including an aas owe rye yen, royal new zealand aircraft owe rye enand u.s. navy poseidon. it was expected to arrive early this afternoon. it was expected to depart mid afternoon. it was due to depart this afternoon. the aircraft has been found to assist in drift modeling. they will provide an ongoing records point south of relocating. it is issued by australia on
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monday is expected to arrive in the area this afternoon. the royal australian navy ship is on route to the area but some days away. the ship is quick to recover any objects. every effort is being made to help in the satellite imagerima. the search is a monumental effort. i will give you an update on what has been deployed. during the course of the administration they have spoken to the counterparts including australia, indonesia, nepal, new sgleep land, singapore, thailand and the usa. all were very supportive and all offered assistance.
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as the focus has moved to southern and southern corridors our international partners continued to provide whatever support they can. currently there are 18 ships, 29 aircrafts and six helicopters employed along the northern and southern corridor adds follows. two from malaysia one from japan and one from the u.s. in the south irn corridor there are 25 aircraft two were malaysia, 5 australia, three from china, four from indonesia, two from india, four from japan one from new zealand two from south korea and one from the usa. all ships in the southern corridor 6 from malaysia one
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from australia, 5 from china and six from indonesia. six helicopters three from malaysia and 3 from china. search and rescue operations will continue. two aircraft in kazakhstan and the u.k. sending one ship to the south corridor. in addition to what i just listed above a number of countries are carrying out search and rescue operations within. china is using 21 special lines to search the area and is ready to send more chips and aircraft wherever they are needed. they are conducting search operations within cambodia lose and singapore is using the
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fusion center which they are using dispensation to the mariners and help to the search. they are conducting search operations in the northern part with all available air crafted. vietnam are conducting search operations within the territory using an unspecified number of the aircraft. i am thankful for the cooperation of our partners as we continue to focus on finding malaysian flight 3370. i would like to confirm representatives from the government spoke to the families who were present here yesterday. in addition the prime minister's special invoice china today for the chinese families hewho are here. also there will be the
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department of civil aviation the avr armed forces and foefrn affairs. for the families around the world the one piece of information, they want more information we just don't have the location of m h317. our primary focus has always been to find the aircraft. our efforts have been there. we wanted to reduce the area of the search, we now have a credible lead. there remains much work to be done to deploy this and this work will continue overnight. thank you. >> oo ladies and gentlemen
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(indiscernible). >> (inaudible question) >> i have listed all of the asse assets. but we are intensifying the area, the search area in which we had the credible leads from the australian authority. >> we have the aircraft and all in the aircraft but judging from
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what we saw yesterday we should address the whole thing. the way it is shaping up... (inaudible question) >> i know it's a very pertinent question. but as of today, what i am comfortedable with is that it is a credible lead. that credible lead requires us
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overnight for cooperation. as long as there's hope we will continue and that is why i said that is a priority to find the aircraft and possibly the black box. but to be fair to the family we must never never give up hope. >> (inaudible question)>> (indiscernible)
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>> (inaudible question) (speaking in foreign language) >> just to recap you have been watching a news conference coming out of malaysia. not a lot of new information confirming, though, the search
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is now focused on the southern corridor about 1500 miles off the coast of perth, australia where two pieces of debris rather large have been spotted that could possibly be debris from the missing malaysian airliner. >> about the size one-third of the plane either in length or in width if you include the wing span. doug luzader is live for us in washington, d.c. not only works here at fox news but also a pilot himself. tell me a little bit about the aircraft being sent over. new zealand u.s. nave reand australia are sending aircraft. owe rye enincluding the usp 8 which is a pos side den are you familiar with these planes? >> this is a poseidon pa. it is a naval sub hunter. that's one of the things it is designed to do.
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it cannot only look at the surface but under the surface to a degree to see if they can detect anything. if there are items of debris that may be suspended a few feet below the surface it may be able to find that. it is the navy's version of the 737. it is used to find things in the ocean. we will see whether they come up with anything. this is certainly very promising. it doesn't mean this is going to be easy. we will go back quickly to this satellite image. this is a zoomed in image of it even though it is within keeping of the search area this debris if it is in the aircraft has been in the water for a week and a half now. almost two weeks. if that is the case think how far it may have drifted. it may take a while to come up with the debris field and
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pinpoint it and where it originated from. there's a clockwise occurrence the indian ocean goes this direction. if you find the debris here you have to search to the west of it to find where the aircraft would have entered the water. it is preliminary but it is interesting the australian officials are disseminating the information. there may be a high degree of probability this may be from the aircraft. we will see when they start getting eyes on this wreckage and more importantly hands on this debris to see if it came from the missing malaysian aircraft. >> i did want to mention that. you mentioned earlier the satellite image was taken as earlier. it was taken on march 16th. here we are march 20th, 21st there. what's the probability that that
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debris is still in the area. >> that's true. we talk about the issue of drift. they have to do math in both directions here. even though it may show here by now it could be here as they send the aircraft out to look for it. then you have to go to the other direction if it was here a few days ago it must have started out here. they have a lot of work to do to figure out what the current have been and the speed they have been travelling for days. when you look at the debris you have to look at the wind direction. there are a lot of different factors that come into play as you try to pinpoint this stuff. >> appreciate your insight this morning. >> former commercial pilot robert mark is on the phone with
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us. thank you for joining us for the second hour. the satellite image was taken on the 16th four-days later we are just hearing about this. then the press conference said the debris was found at 10:00 a.m. or noticed at 10:00 a.m. their time. that's 7 hours 48 minutes ago. i would think we would have confirmation this is or is not debris from the plane, correct? >> you have to understand the weather in the area is not reportedly very good. just because we know where the parts were we don't know where they are for certain now. you can't put too many airplanes in any one area to make sure they don't run together. it is still a bit like finding a
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needle in a haystack. the haystack is smaller but we are still doing searching. >> they signed off hm 370. prior to that the flight changed directions 12 minutes before he signed off. tell me this particular plane, the boeing 777, how long could it fly without power? >> you mean without electrical power? >> that's a toughy. it couldn't fly very long without electrical power if there was nobody in the cockpit that was able to fly the airplane. this is a fly by wire system and it needs electrical power to control the airplane. again, we are kind of pulling at hairs in this point.
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we do know if this is the airplane it flu pretty straight from the last point of known -- that we knew where it was in the bay of thailand to this point. it didn't go very far off of that course at all whichthailand >> my thought process being in order to have gotten this distance, it would have to have had electrical power? >> absolutely. >> robert, if you look at the map, this plane was taking off malaysia and then heading north to china. but it was found, or this debrisç is found -- not sure obviously if it is the wreckage. this debris was found if you look at this map off the coast of australia, way far south of where it was heading in china. what does this tell us? does this location make any sense? >> if we consider theat lookingt point of where it was, up
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there in the bay of thailand and if it turned around and did fly back across the peninsula of thailand and headed to the west, southwest, this is pretty much in line with that same course, meaning it never turned at all, which is,ñtr again, very strange because there was no place that it could possibly have landed headed the way it was. and now we're really going to start wondering what in the world was going on. >> thank you so much for joining us this morning. we really appreciate it. >> you're welcome. >> this area of the indian ocean is tens of thousands of feet deep. the search obviously a daunting task. maria molina is here with a look at what search crews are facing, the conditions right now. maria? >> hi, heather and ainsley. good to see you. hello everyone. this is a very deep ocean, about two miles deep or
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12,000 feet on average, the indian ocean. the region we're looking at is very remote, very poor or little radar coverage out here. temperature wise weç are looking at a relatively warm ocean, temperatures between 70 and 80 degrees farenheit. the area of interest is not that warm. that is in general the indian ocean. we have to go much farther south. once we're south of 40 degrees latitude south you're going to be seeing temperatures drop off quickly. in this region temperatures could be as cool as 50 degrees farenheit. there is a disturbance moving through and that is making search here tougher. we have poor visibility, choppy seas, rough surf. a lot of cloud coverage with it. it is going to be movingç through. once it does over the next couple of days we are going to be seeing conditions improving. the ocean current is something we've been talking about. generally speaking across the indian ocean we do have a counterclockwise flow.
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across the area of interest you would have the ocean flowing from west to east. that is a direction that any debris would potentially, if it is the case, a plane did crash out here, it would be moving in an eastward direction. based on the speed of the ocean current, the crash site could have been about 180 to 250 miles to the west of the area that we're looking at where that potential debris is located. again, relatively cool water out here. we have that disturbance moving through this region of the southern indian ocean. not good conditions. they should be improving over the next couple ofç days. >> maria, thank you so much. this new discovery, it could debunk what many have been focusing on for days and that being pilot sabotage. russ amer, a former commercial airlines pilot and boeing 777 instructor
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joins with his theory about what might have happened. >> this explains why the acar's dropping off because when the aircraft is on fire, these components drop off by the protection circuits and perhapsç pilots actually turning them off because when you have an electrical fire, any kind of fire, you start turning off components and perhaps the radios were not working where they could have made any contact. again, as i mentioned on several interviews, on-board fire is probably the worst-case scenario because the fire propagates so rapidly in an aircraft that sometimes there's absolutely no time. >> there was a u.p.s. 747 freighter crash a few years ago that was carrying
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lithium ion batteries and they crashed in dubai. this was very, veryç much in my mind every time i saw this. again, i had heard some news that this aircraft may have been carrying shipments of lithium ion batteries in the cargo department. >> aircraft? this is a navy p-8 poisedon designed to hunt submarines. today it will be looking for debris. >> we want now to go to john lusage, a licensed commercial pilot, a former new jersey state criminal investigator. he joins us now. we spoke with you earlier. we've had a news conference not a lot of new information there, just emphasizing that they are now focusing on this southern corridor off the coast of australia. do you have any new thoughts on this debris and
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whether or not you believe it is from the missing plane? >> if we go to malaysian time line where at 1:07 they deviate from their course and take a westerly course, we are 12 minutes into that, we have the pilots saying good night. if they had a problem that causes them to divert instead of saying good night, would the pilot not have said we're having a problem, we're diverting, we're declare an emergency or whatever they're doing? but instead this copilot sounds very calm and he saysç okay, good night. if they had an emergency, i would have believed they would called. that is what makes this even more confusing that this time line puts this aircraft on a new path and with no acknowledgement from the pilot that they're having any problem
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whatsoever? >> what are you suggesting? this could have been a hijacking gone wrong? >> i'm suggesting there are so many facts that have come out that have been proven to be wrong and the time lines have been changed that it makes it so confusing. a lot of people haveç a lot of theories out there and right now any one of them is possible. one of the theories is hijacking and it could still possibly be. we've seen so many reports come out about this including satellite images that have proven to be unfounded. let's not forget the [inaudible] never found either, yet that report came up. part of me is hoping we get resolution to this but part of me is hoping we find these people alive. >> earlier asked about a loss of power, some sort of catastrophic event that caused the plane to lose power. if that had not been the case -- and this was my reason for asking it -- the
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pilot could have radioed for help; is that correct? if they were in a situation that they were able to. >>ç right. first of all, when you fly an airplane, you fly the airplane first. if you have an emergency, you do whatever you need to deal with. you put the radio aside. but this pilot, copilot actually used the radio to say good night. if he had a problem, i believe he would have said something to the a.p.c., which is aircraft control, rather than just say good night, as though he was just being handed off in a routine manner to control. >> in a loss of power it would have gone down way before this area? >> no. loss of power is electrical. the airplane is still flying. some of theç suggestions and theories is that it killed these pilots and then it continued on with auto pilot. everything else is going down, why didn't the auto pilot go down also?
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i'm not buying -- >> we're hearing people, their cell phones were ringing, no one was answering. not one family member is saying they heard from their loved one that was on the plane. very bizarre. hopefully we will get some answers to all of these questions hopefully today. >> thank you. 239 people on board. if you recap, two objects that could be debris from the missing jet spotted on satellite off the coast of australia. you're looking at new images from the australian government. moments ago malaysian officials spoke.ç >> every effort has been made to locate the objects in the satellite imagery. it must be stressed that these [inaudible] while credible are still to be [inaudible] >> at this moment searchers are rushing to locate those objects in the southern indian ocean. the indian ocean is the world's third largest body of water, has an average depth of nearly 12,000 feet. that is two miles deep.
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>> this southern part where they suspect the debris to be, one place where a commercial airliner could crash without a ship spotting it, a radar prodding it or even a satellite picking it up. officials say the objects they have spotted appear to be fairly large. >> thanks for joiningç us. "fox & friends" takes it over from here. bye. good morning. it is thursday, march 20. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we start with a fox news alert. while you were sleeping, brand-new satellite images from the australian government show possible debris from that missing malaysian flight. they are in an extremely remote part of the indian ocean. >> moments ago malaysian officials had to say this in a press conference about what we found so far. >> every effort is being made to locate the objects

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