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it to us at jer@foxnews.com. and follow us on twitter. that's it for this week's show. thanks to my panel and all of for you watching. we'll see you right here next week. and we begin with a fox news alert. it's been more than two weeks and the world is still asking, what happened to the missing malaysia airlines flight with those 239 passengers on board some searchers are using new satellite images to try to find what appears to be a large object in the southern indian ocean. they still haven't been able to identify it, though. >> the image has been released by malaisysian defense minister. you can see something that could be a chunk of debris. it was found in the same general area where australian satellites

spotted the two objects in the water earlier in week. now ships are scouring the area trying to locate that object the satellite picked up. you know takes slow and frustrating search. david piper is streaming live from thailand with the latest developments. >> reporter: yes, a fresh lead in the search for this missing plane which disappeared over two weeks ago now. as he said, china has released a satellite photo which shows an object in the south china sea. it measures around 70 feet by about 40. the photo causes taken on tuesday, but only released take. the malaysian authorities who are leading the investigation say china is sending ships to the area. >> china received the image of the floating object in the southern corridor and they will be sending ships to verify. malaysian government will announce this in a couple hours.

>> reporter: it was about 75 miles from where two large objects were seen by satellite last sunday. the object is likely to have moved a considerable distance since the satellite spotted it and they have widened the search area in the southern indian ocean now, but none of the search planes that wepts out today reported seeing the objects. the u.s. navy's p-8 advanced search plane will rejoin the search in a few hours time. planes from australia and china also head out to the search zone, about a four hour flight from perth. australian naval vessel has already reached the area. the weather, though, is a major concern. the forecast doesn't look good for the coming week. a cyclone is currently to the north of the search area. and moving toward it. and also of course they remain looking in that northern arc thailand, kazakhstan, india,

still searching the north just in case the plane went north instead of south. >> all right. we'll get back to you for any further developments. well, in the meantime, the malaysian government is releasing that new image today taken by the chinese satellites on march 18th. taken by their gaofen satellite that orbits 400 miles above the earth. it's part of a high resolution observation system that will be completed by 2020. the satellite cost about $250 million, it's a joint in-investigationment by china and brazil. >> and rough weather and seas could make it even more difficult to try and find that object that was spotted by satellites in the southern indian ocean. it's one of the roughest and most eye laisolated place on ea. and the weather is not cooperating. >> no, as you mentioned, this is

relentless weather across the world. and well continue to see the potential for more storm systems as they move into their fall and winter season. so there is where we have located that debris, the other piece of debris from last week's debris which is located in the yellow. and you can see the cloud cover that is moving in to this region. they have had a period of around 12 to 24 hours of clearer weather and they still have several hours to get out there and do shall investigating. but we have a number of storm systems, this is a very unforgiving area across the indian ocean. and as you can see, another front moves in with rain and battering winds and that is going to continue over the next several days as we head into monday. this is eastern time. they are ahead of us by 12 hours, but you can see just the continuous motion of storms pushing into the region. we'll have another better day on wednesday, but then thursday, we'll see another storm system. so it's very difficult to get ships and planes into this region.

and i just want to show you the buoy where we get weather data across the world. you can see where we have all of our you buoys stationed, but you nothing is in in area to give us ocean weather as well as waves to give us the current conditions in this region. so we don't have a lot to go on. just really satellite data. and forecast images. there is our forecast wind gust. and as the storm system moves in, 30, 40, 50-mile-per-hour winds especially south of this region. and then we have another storm system moving in where we'll see the continual gusty winds and of course those waves are going to be battering and very difficult conditions for the search crews in this region. >> and it is so far out there and so far away from meaningful land. meanwhile back here at home, what happened to spring? we thought spring had sprung, but not this week. >> we have another storm moving in. we'll have to watch very carefully. this one could be a doozy. so we will be monitoring it from the fox news extreme weather

center. developing coastal low could make for perfect conditions for a march nor'easter bringing the potential for rain, wind, and several, several inches of snow depending on the exact location and track of the system. so we're thinking tuesday into wednesday, right now it looks like a new england storm. but of course things can change and anywhere from east or west could mean the difference between perhaps just several inches of snow or maybe a foot or more. it seems like april fool's day. back to you. >> july 4th fireworks going to be canceled because of snow? >> some day we will be complaining about the heat. i know that will happen. >> can't come soon enough for some people. all right, janice, thanks so much. well, let's get to our other top story. shots reportedly fired at a ukranian air force base in crimea as pro russian forces storm the outpost.

injuring two people. it comes just one day after putin made his annexation of ukraine's southern region official, signing bills absorbing crimea into russia. president obama mean while leaves tomorrow for a two day nuclear summit in europe where talks about ukraine is expected to dominate those meetings. with more on the u.s. voech involvement, james rosen joins us live. a lot going on in the ground in ukraine militarily and in terms of diplomacy. whatbama take in terms of get things under control or getting whatever he's looking for from the region? >> no question it's on his agenda. the embattled interim prime minister of ukraine got a symbolic show of support today. united nations second general ban ki-moon said during a meeting this morning he is confident the fragile ukranian government will be able to, quote, overcome this difficult

time. ban congratulated him for showing restraint when many y ukranians are feeling anger. at the same time pro russian forces stormed one of the last military installations in crimea. with gun shots rippinging out, armored vehicles crashed concrete barriers. the defense ministry says two officers suffered gunshot wounds. journalists including foreign press were beaten. >> so let's me ask you if president obama will head to the summit tomorrow, ukraine as you said obviously a major focus. where does the crisis go from here, what kind of impact can he really have? >> the summit that mr. obama will be attending in the netherlands on monday and tuesday is focused on nuclear proliferation, but the president will meet on the sidelines of this summit with members of the g-7, pointedly excluding russian president putin whose membership in the g-8 is now somewhat

tenuous. his foreign minister will attend. a leading expert told fox news he doesn't see putin at least in the near term launching a broader invasion of ukraine analogous to the soviet invasion in 1968. >> probably things a bit more subtle, special forces probing, prodding here and there, seeing where there are weaknesses and try to destabilize the government in kiev. probably try to prevent the elections from happening may 25th because that would result in a legitimate government being elected that mr. putin could no longer claim was ill legitimate. >> a team of 200 observers is soon to touchdown in ukraine. no word on whether they will be permitted access to crimea. >> so much going on. thank you so much. good to see you.

>> more than two weeks ago, flight 370 took off in the miflgtd night starting all this staenks and there are many theories about what could have caused its fate. coming up next, we'll break down what could actually have happened to that boeing 777. >> all kinds of theories out there. and in all of this, we cannot forget the grieving families. unimaginable what they're going through waiting for any word about their loved ones. >> i know it has been incredibly hard for everyone. especially for the families. we hope and pray this difficult search will be resolved. [ male announcer ] ortho crime files. reckless seeding. a backyard invasion. enter homeowner, and ortho weed b gon max.

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if this debris is any part of the plane flight 370, joining me now to break down is robert mark, commercial pilot and publisher. very good to see you again. thanks so much for being with us. >> you're most welcome. >> merehere's what i wanted to . we have all these satellites up in the air. we use them for everything, for getting -- i could google map your house and see your driveway. so why are we having such a hard time identifying this debris? is it the location in that part of the world? >> well, i think my own personal opinion on that is that the resolution of the photos we've been receiving has been purposely, you know, blurred. we look at the photos that came from china a few weeks go that turned out to be nothing. i'm having a hard time believing the chinese couldn't have come up with something a little more

clearer. then again, not being a satellite technology geek, you know, i'm not absolutely positive on that. >> but you have a gut about what may have happened. we've talked about a number of different scenarios together and i really appreciate your insight. and it's interesting because michelle obama's making a trip to china at a time that we need them to cooperate and give us all the information that they have. i just think people are having a very hard time grasping why we're not getting answers more quickly. the question i have is about what we can do to change things in the future, lessons learned. i never knew until discussions with you and others that passenger:00 again only lasts 15 minutes, that a pilot could literally flip the switch and turn off different mechanical equipmentonly lasts 15 minutes, that a pilot could literally flip the switch and turn off different mechanical equipment in a plane and also in terms of getting information about cargo and manifests, that it could be this troublesome to

track down a cause of a plane's disappearance. will anything change on our shores? >> i think there are certainly things that must change. for one, we'll see technology changes. there are new systems that are coming online. there are people who do sat phones that we see in the movies all the time, they have a deal with canada that will put new technology system for airplanes that will allow us to know where an airplane is anywhere on the face of the globe, but that doesn't start for a couple of years yet. but i also think the international civil aviation organization in montreal, the u.n.'s function for aviation in the world, is going to have to start looking at how we all work together better than we have. >> there has to be cooperation. and we can't with malaysian you because we don't have any flights between the countries. we can't control even the checking of those passports

initially. let me ask you this other question i actually didn't know up this disaster and this situation. that voice data recorders are two hours long and they rerecord over themselves after that two hours. who decided that was long enough? >> well, that's a very interesting question. for what it's worth, years ago it used to be only 30 minutes. and i don't honestly know who certified it that way. but the reason they did it was that the majority of accidents tend to happen during landing and during takeoff. and they just assumed that that was going to be the really important information to know about what was going on in the cockpit. >> so let's me ask you this last question. if in fact these pilots continue to fly this plane after good nighting and already changing course, could they have been trying to outsmart the equipment and would the faa or any other airline authority let that happen again? hey, just buy two voice

recorders. when one ends, let the other one start. >> that's a very interesting question. going back to mentioning the system nav canada is involved in, one of their suggestions is that there is a system that always have a standby trance mitder that is always transmitting that can't be turned off from the cockpit so you would always know where the airplane is. >> i like it. you bring such great information to the story. >> thank you very much. >> i hope we're talking about that we have a conclusion. you just mentioned one possible cause that authorities are considering. whether or not flight 37 on lost cabin pressure. it has caused crashes before. this as the faa happens to warn airlines at the same time about possible decompression from fuselage cracks on some boeing 777s. coming up next, we'll take a look at what happens to passengers if you're on a plane and the oxygen suddenly goes

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there's something called decompression sickness, if the plane somehow as a result of the crack in the plane, the air can get in, and the pilot has to either bring it down to a lower altitude or really go up. when that happens, you may get something called decompression sickness. what exactly is it? you know, in our body, in or blood, in our muscles, we have a lot of gases like nitrogen gas. and we have others. as a result of the pressure change, this gas can come to the surface and go into our spinal cord, it can go into our brain, something called an air embolus. >> do you know this is happening or do you just go to sleep? >> it's an interesting question.

you may have some joint pain, back pain, you can cause visual disturbances or slowly you can go unconscious and have seizure and die. depending on the way the things happen. it's very gradual. what we're finding out is, a lot of these passengers were sleeping, taking a nap, and they're -- >> it's an overnight flight? >> absolutely. they may not have even realized this was happening. and it was so gradual, that including the pilot, may have gone gradually to sleep, lost control of the plane and then the plane was base eggly going on auto pilot for many years. >> that's what happened to paine stewart, the golfer, he was in a learjet, when the fighters came up, they saw the windshield was all iced over, and tragically crashed. there's paine stewart. it happened with a greek flight, exactly the same thing, went on auto pilot at 34,000 feet and crashed. they didn't realize they didn't have oxygen. >> this is exactly what the

principle behind this is called henry's law. the same way you open a can of coke. you see all of a sudden all the air bubbles will come to the surface, you're doing the decompression of that can, which is exact letter what happens when this plane, which is it almost like a can of soda, decompresses, the air will come up, and it can hurt neurologic. it can hurt the pilot and the passengers. >> we don't know for sure what happened, but everyone's confident eventually they will find out. >> thank you so much. >> jamie? >> thanks, we'll see you tomorrow. we continue to follow breaking developments in crimea after russian troops storms a military base. a live report coming up for you right here on the fox news channel straight from kiev.

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we start a new hour with the fox news alert. in the new developments in the search for the malaysian airlines flight 370. chinese satellite picked up a large piece of something. floating debris in a very remote stretch of the southern indian ocean. could that be part of the records of the ill-fated flight or is it just more ocean junk. >> they say this is the most difficult part of the world to search, within these deep waters, the debris that was spotted was also seen by australian authorities who reported seeing something very

similar just two days ago. several countries are now sending planes and ships there to try to figure out what is it? now, this latest development comes more than two weeks since the boeing 777 disappeared. there were more than 230 passengers as you know on board. doug is live in washington. good to see you. >> good to see you too, jamie. the hopes the debris from the missing airliner may have been found have been rekindled by the satellite release from the chinese government. state run chinese media says this measures 72 feet by 43 feet. the release of that image follows the publication by the daily telegraph of a purported transcript of cockpit communications with air traffic controllers. the transcript indicates no abnormalities or emergencies in the cockpit. it ends with the words, all right, good night.

just before communications were handed off. >> right after that handoff was supposed to occur. the plane went dark and it diverted. that is circumstantial evidence that helium involvement caused the plane to veer offcourse. >> there's still speculation that the search of the vast indian ocean may be misdirected. that the plane was hijacked and landed in a remote area. search planes have relatively little time on site before having to return to australia for refueling. and a cyclone is now bearing down on the search area. because of strong currents and winds the debris spotted by the chinese satellite, could have already flown at 300 miles since the image was snapped on tuesday. a tough, tough situation, jamie. >> getting more difficult by the

hour, doug. good to see you. >> for more on what the satellite image could reveal about what happened to flight 370, let's turn to d.j. frost, an international commercial airline pilot. the satellite image is from tuesday. i mean, that's four days ago, and especially the same size as the australian satellite image that we had. could it be the same piece? how do we know eventually what it could be? >> it's very encouraging, but no question about it, and, of course, i hope it does lead to some closure for the families especially the families who are suffering through all of this. >> absolutely. for you as a pilot, what's the most major clue, that left turn unexplained? what do you think happened? >> well, i'm still want to know more about what was in the cargo hold, if it was lithium batteries, a little nugget was thrown out recently there were lithium batteries, they were in a protective cover.

i'm not completely sold on that. you can ask my ups brothers and sisters, what a lithium battery can do to a plane. they're very flammable, very noxious, if something like that erupted within the cargo hold, could have been a catastrophic situation that happened quickly. >> that was one of the newest and last 7777s built. it happened on september 3rd, 2010, they're flying along and there's smoke in the cabin, they think it was lithium batteries that suddenly erupted, exploded and caused all this fire in the cargo hold? that was a cargo 747, a frighter? >> yes, it was a cargo 747, they were operating out of dubai that day. now, those lithium batteries have been proven to be unstable and highly flammable and highly noxious. so if a situation occurred then, that a flame, a hole full of

fire came into the avionics compartment, it could possibly explain then the time line of the transponder shutting off, the acars shutting off, the pilots turning back. we're taught from day one, ave yat, navigate and then communicate. i know a lot of people are questioning, why didn't they get a mayday distress signal out in time. they may not have had time unfortunately, that's what's concerning me at this point, that more focus is not being put in that direction. >> what about the possibility of decompression, that's happened before. the faa issued the following a air directive a couple weeks ago. it's supposed to take effect in april. this a.d. was prompted by cracking of the fuselage antenna adapter. this requires representative inspections of the fuselage to detect and repair cracking which could lead to rapid

decompression and loss of structural integrity of the airplane. now, we don't know at all if this had that equipment or if indeed this plane was inspected. what are the possibilities of that happening? they have a problem, they start to turn back, and they can't make it? >> well, the only thing i have with that is, i believe most airplanes have that big round antenna on top of the fuselage. that doesn't then explain the transponder turning off, the acars stopping transmitting signals. if there's a rapid decompression, we would hear a horn, we would get a warning in the cockpit immediately, we put on oxygen masks, there's no hesitation there, that's an immediate memory item on every emergency checklist that has to do with the rapid decompression. >> and you push it down, go to a lower altitude. and this flight apparently they didn't do that? >> well, without the black boxes, we don't have the radar coverage of -- as far as the altitudes properly. of course, that other

information, i think, is -- was invalid, and we don't know without the black boxes then, wedge they climbed, whether they had to do an emergency descent. we just don't know right now, that's a lot of conjecture at this point. >> so many questions that still remain unsolved. as you say, will likely not be solved until if and indeed they can recover those black boxes. thank you so much for joining us today on the fox news channel. >> you're welcome, eric. >> so many theorys and opinions, we'll continue to report the facts to you. and one thing we know for sure, it's a race against time to find that jet's black box. the flight data recorder has only about 30 days of battery life. this is what they look like, and they transmit a signal once they're submerged under water, it's been more than two weeks already since it may have hit the water, and that means a little less than two more weeks remain before it goes silent. once it does, recovery efforts and investigation into how the

plane may have come down, even if they find it could be more difficult. it took two years to find the black box from the wreckage of the air france flight 245 crashed in the atlantic in 2009. the ocean depth in the search area for 370 is thought to be more than two miles down. very difficult. >> let's take a look at some of the planes that have been deployed in the search right now much the lockheed p-3 orion. it's called the workhorse of the search effort because it can fly at very low altitudes for a long period of time. then we've heard about the u.s. navy's p-8 poseidon. it's a redesigned 737. it's used for marine warfare. it can detect objects deep in

the ocean. when we con figure it from a civilian jet it's packed with state of the art gear for these type of missions. and the hercules c-130 transport plane. it's being used to drop those buoys that they hope searchers can help track any debris where it's moving or any continued pings that may be emanating from the black boxes. an update now, and this fox news alert as we turn our attention to ukraine, where there are reports of shots fired. at a ukrainian air force base in crimea. after russian forces stormed that outpost. all of this on the heels of russian president vladimir putin signing a law that formalized russia's takeover of crimea from ukraine, something the west still calls illegitimate. does it matter what we call it? hi, greg?

>>. >> reporter: it's been a hectic and violent day in crimea, the takeover by russia of the peninsula apparently in its final phase. the ukrainian defense ministry has confirmed that perhaps the most important base ukrainian forces have there is seizes by russian forces. the kmabder has been the most defiant of any of the ukrainian officers through this crisis. we are told four russian armored vehicles smashed through the front gate of that base. and then shots and stun grenades were fired. it's confirmed to us, that two officers of the ukrainian military injured, and the brave ukrainian commander is detained by russian forces right now. earlier, more activity around the peninsula. ukraine's only submarine in crimea, seized by russian forces. another base stormed by pro russian militia. since president putin announced the annexation of crimea, move not recognized by the ukraine or the u.s. or the west. nearly all ukrainian military

facilities have been given up. the officials say they're working on some kind of an evacuation plan for family and troops. in the eastern ukrainian city, we saw today a pro russian rally. this as officials here confirmed to us they're watching very closely, russian troop buildup and activity on the other side of the border. it's said to be something like 20,000 russian troops with full battle gear active there. russia says these are just exercises, they have no plans to invade, but the white house and the pentagon the last two days are saying that perhaps is not credible. finally, here, in kiev, diplomacy continues, ban ki-moon was here for another day meeting with the leaders of the interim government. canada's prime minister became the first g-7 leader to come here since the protests. and we saw 100 military observers set to arrive from the osce organization, their task will be to try to keep an eye on all sorts of activities all

across the country. a big job indeed. >> greg palkot for us live in kiev. thank you. we'll have a fair and balanced debate about how the administration is handling the ukraine crisis. our panel will weigh-in later on in our newscast. the unemployment debate is taking center stage in this year's midterm elections. what kind of impact will it have to boost the economy? we'll have a fair and balanced look at that. coming up, an indepth look at all that advanced technology that investigators are trying right now to locate missing flight 370. >> the united states is offering as many resources as possible to assist in the search. and please know that we are keeping all of the families and loved ones of those on this

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search crews to a remote area in the southern stretch of the indian ocean. the search is on to find any tangible signs of wreckage. once any debris is finally discovered, some new cameras, computers and advanced underwater technology could be deployed in any recovery effort. >> if wreckage from flight 370 is found, scientists will have to trace back and pinpoint a general search area where they think the plane hit the water. only then could phoenix international a u.s. company be mobilized to search miles beneath the surface. the search would begin with the hopes of finding this sound. pings emitted from the beacons attached to the airplanes two black boxes, the data and voice recorders. the pings are picked up by the toad pinger system, it can pick

up signals from two miles away. scientists have 30 to 50 days once the plane hits the water before the beacon batteries die making a difficult search even harder. >> it's important to find them before they go dead, because you can detect the location of the black box from a lot further away, if the ping is working or not working. what that does, it gives you a lot better idea of where the debris field is. >> ping or no ping. scientists would launch an awe taken mouse underwater vehicle. it's preprogrammed to map the sea floor. using satellite gps and side scan sonar. scientists download the data and can equip the auv with hd cameras if they think wreckage is found. if plane wreckage is found recovery begins with the remora 6,000, a remotely operated vehicle, it's equipped with thrusters, cameras, lights and robotic arms.

it can lift debris from the surface for heavier items like the engine. it attaches high strength recovery lines that are lifted from the boat. bottom line, this technology eric can only be used, though, if investigators know where to start looking. >> and they have about two weeks -- those pings are fascinating, never really heard them before. brian? thank you so much. >> now to the new questions that are being raised today over president obama's handling of the crisis in ukraine. critics wondering whether the president could have taken a tougher stance against russian president vladimir putin, following russia's official takeover of crimea. angela mcglowen and david welcome. >> good to see you, jamie. >> david, how big an impact do you think foreign policy will have in the midterm elections? the president's accomplishments, versus the other things that have been on his plate that have not yet been done?

>> i think as a standard in elections, foreign policy definitely takes a back seat to domestic issues. and in our case, with regard to the economy and making the economic future for the middle class more secure. however, this is a -- we have to put our attention to this, and the president has been doing that, the economic sanctions are having its impact. we've seen the credit of russia get downgraded. it's stock market slipping. and if russia was looking to play a role in the future of global politics, they may be putting that in jeopardy as they seek to take this approach as they have with crimea on their western border. so it may be a -- they may want to look back on what the consequences of this all are. and readjust. >> but one of the issues that remains really critically important, angela in this area is, natural gas? >> yes, and the fact is, that the president hasn't approved as

many of the approvals needed to actually cultivate more and develop more of that natural gas here to make us less energy dependent which is something that would be one of his goals. is that an issue that voters will look at, the fact that we have to be concerned about that region because of our need for fuel and our inability to provide it for europe? >> you're exactly right. we have not really seen the keystone pipeline. as for foreign policy, if we don't protect our homeland, we were seen as the leader of the free world. the president is seen weaker on foreign policy and international affairs. when it comes to terrorism related to foreign policy, now we stand since osama bin laden is dead, he ranks high. i think it's going to play a large role on foreign policy during the midterm elections. if we look at iran, and the president being in controversy with congress. you had republicans and

democrats disagreeing with the president's foreign policy. >> and the reason that i brought up the natural gas and the keystone issue is because that -- as david points out, if foreign policy takes a back seat, domestic affairs become more important, and that particular policy provides jobs. david? what about the fact that that -- secretary kerry's been overseas? president obama has been overseas, he's been on the phone with putin for an hour at a time, and they keep saying consequences, consequences. but what's the impact if putin pressures on and tries to get more of this crimian region? >> well, two things, with regard to jobs, that you mention, this president and the administration have created nearly 8 million jobs over the last 43, 44 months. there are many ways to create jobs, it's just not contingent on keystone pipeline, which has an exaggerated job projection, with maybe 30 or 3,000 jobs created. >> the unions don't think so,

david. >> if i might finish. >> go ahead about. >> it's not to shake your head at pup but 8 million jobs have been created. moving with regard to the foreign policy front, germany and other european countries, germany is the largest importer of natural gas from russia and, therefore, the point being that we have to do this in conjunction in a foreign policy vein. >> we are. >> with our allies. >> we are. >> and in conjunction with them, and this is the approach that collectively has been decided upon as a first step. as as i mentioned on the economic sanctions, they are having an impact. >> no, they're not. >> let's not forget. >> hang on, guys. in terms of sanctions. >> let's not forget -- >> hold on a second, david. in terms of sanctions, when we look at iran, and i've been briefs on this, and done a lot of research on it as i'm sure you have as well. they've been very helpful in terms of getting iran to take notice as to the power that the

united states has to actually hurt their economy. they really were very uncomfortable with that, but i had a guest on the other day who brought something up that applies well, hope is not a strategy. >> thank you. >> and the president -- >> and sanctions are not a hope, it's not an actual execution of a policy that hurts them in their pocketbook. >> david, if i may -- >> if we may, because we're supposed to be fair and balanced, david, you have the america and the eu both taking economic sanctions on russia, and vladimir putin is thumbing his nose at all of us. >> i don't think he's thumbing his nose, nor is his economy suffering as a result of it. and that will take an impact on them. >> he's still taking action. >> i have to leave it there. just so our viewers understand if they missed the report, shots were fired. >> thank you. >> and he was reporting from kiev. it does seem like the russian troops that are on the ground have plans to potentially do more. we'll keep a close eye on all of that, and the president's policies as well for everyone.

thank you so much. >> thank you, jamie. >> wish we could have like five more minutes. take care. >> jamie, you know, there are millions of pounds of garbage floating in the ocean. it's going to have an impact on the search for flight 370. is this garbage or is that finally a piece of the plane? what some of those challenges are that face investigators. we'll take a look at that part of the story coming up. >> it could be anything. i mean, we dump millions of pounds of garbage in our oceans every day. it could be debris, it could be a piece of plane, it could be a no returned boat, it could be just about anything. it's unbelievable how difficult it is in a remote place like this. and the fact that they've even spotted anything is pretty amazing. you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition inharge™.

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the search area for malaysian flight 370 is roughly

the size of australia. it's not the only thing complicating matters for investigators. right now they also have to contend with the millions of pounds of garbage and other debris they find floating in our oceans every day. dominick is joining me now live in los angeles. this is a sad statement to how all the trash gets there. how much are we talking about? >> a massive amount, jamie. absolutely massive, the biggest problem with the search area, we're in the middle of what's known as the indian ocean garbage dump which is a class ali huge area of the indian ocean, where there's a lot of man maida bre that ranges in size, everything from really domestic plastic items to sea containers. it's churning around in this colossal rotating ocean current. and enough debris washed out to sea or cruise ships, leaving experts shrugging their

shoulders. >> it could be from icebergs to containers that have been pushed over the side of ships to freighters to parts of dolphins, it could even be light refra refracting off the ocean. >> and that really is just leaving everybody stumped. so while yes it could be the same piece of debris that the australians found. that is what we picked up on the chinese satellite, no one knows for sure until they can fish it out of the water. >> they may have to pick up a lot of other things before they get to identifying what was in that picture. do they know where this trash comes from? i mean, the fact that they need to now pinpoint that it's a piece of a plane? so challenging. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, basically, it's stuff that gets washed out to sea for us dumping things here on land to just as i was saying, cruise ships sometimes throw things overboard. bits drop off oil rigs, sea containers get washed overboard by those huge shipping

containers that cross the indian ocean and all the other oceans. this actual trash dump is one of five that exists around the world. the one in the pacific is by far the largest. it's -- i mean, it's absolutely colossal, on the screen right now, is a piece of debris found by the vietnamese. that's what's causing confusion here, is it just another piece of junk out there, jamie? >> maybe there's a 1% chance those represented a piece of a plane. maybe there's a 1/10 of 1% chance we ever find them. we are following fragments, because we don't have facts. >> we don't have facts, and it's almost as if we're grabbing at straws at this, people are desperate to know what happened to their families aboard that flight. the search continues, jamie. >> i think that's putting mildly. we're all praying for those families they get answers. thank you so much. interesting perspective on the search. >> how do you tell, find out whether it's garbage or a piece of debris from that plane.

the ships are moving out. trying to look at the debris that was found in the chinese satellite photo. if the rescue crews finally managed to find the wreckage, how difficult will it be to try to salvage it, in such a remote inhospitable area of our globe. the company that eventually found the wreckage of air france flight 447. it took two years to find the black box of that plane. what type of confidence do you have that 370 will be found? >> i think it will eventually be found if someone -- if someone starts looking in the right area, it's really just a platter of having the correct search area. the technology in location, it can be found. >> do you think -- >> it might take a long time. >> do you think they're looking

at the right area now, what happens when the black box pings give out less than two weeks from now. >> it's going to make things difficult. it's almost impossible for me to say whether they're looking in the right area or not. it's not in particular what i work on, but when the ping goes dead, it will make it far more difficult, you have to get our underwater sensors a lot closer to the wreckage to be able to detect anything under water. >> what type of challenges are there if and when they do find this to get down there, and how does that differ from 447. i mean, 447 was like what, 400 miles from land? this thing's out potentially. if it's out there, at least 1,800 miles from australia. >> well, it makes it a lot more difficult from a logistical standpoint. when we were in the air, air france 447 job, i think it was a two and a half day effort.

being in a remote area like this, makes it more difficult to get spare pots. they don't have very much time on site once they get out there. it's just a very isolated area. and it's not going to be an isolated area for anyone for that matter. >> what happens when they find it, and what type of equipment do you have, and what do you do to get don there to try to find out what happened? >> they're assuming the wreckage has been found, and then positively identified, typically, what you would -- i guess initially, what you would use, maybe an awe taken mouse underwater vehicle, so you can get an idea of the extent where all the wreckage parts are, and the second thing is, you have to get some eyeballs on this thing by using a remotely operated vehicle that can get down to the depth like a -- in any kind of -- you're looking at 4,000 meters of water depth here, that

in itself is the challenge, there's not a lot of that equipment in the world, and just to get down to that depth can take several hours, and the other thing, in this particular part of the world, it's not known for very good weather about part of the summer into the fall in australia, and 45 degrees latitude. it's a miserable place to work. i've been down there before. it's a horrible place. >> the winter is coming on, and you have 40 foot swells and the typhoon is in the area, coming up this next week, finally, curtis. how do you think this will all play out. they've been able to recover flight twa flight 800 off long island. we knew exactly where it was. what do you see happening and how this finally will play out? >> well, i think they're going to spend an awful lot of money, that's one thing.

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time now for a quick check of the headlines, north korea launching 30 short range rockets off its east coast. that according to officials in south korea. this will be north korea's fourth alleged test just this month. an apparent response to join military drills between the u.s. and south korea. the turkish government is blocking twitter. turkey blames social media for fueling recent anti-government campaigns there. first lady michelle obama continues her trip to china. she spoke to students in beijing about the importance of studying

abroad, free speech and access to information, this while china happens to have one of the world's tightest restrictions on the internet. both parties are taughting their policies for job growth. gop lawmakers attribute the falling unemployment numbers to their pro business policies. michigan's republican governor rick snyder praising the ideals of fellow gop governors in the national republican weekly radio address, listen. >> congress needs to address the rest of the country. pass the bill that would lift the federal minimum wage to $10.10 an hour. this wouldn't just raise wages for minimum wage workers, it's effects would lift wages for nearly 28 million americans across this country. >> it's not about bigger government, it's about creating a government for bigger jobs that means getting spending

under control, balancing budgets. letting the free market take off and do what it does best. we're seeing that in several states led by republican governors, like wisconsin, indiana, ohio, new jersey and, of course, in michigan. >> and joining me now, the other jamie, jamie weinstein, senior editor of the daily caller. it's great to have you here, jamie. >> thanks for having me. >> let me start by asking you about those states that have republican governors, what are they doing that are putting them on a trend to provide more jobs? >> well, i think in a large way it's what they're not doing, they're getting out of the way in business and job creators and allowing them to unleash the power of the free market. it's not necessarily what government does, it's reducing the regulation on states and businesses to allow them to hire people and expand their business. i think you can look at rick perry in texas, he's trying to make his state more attractive to business, they leave some of the states where the tax burden

is high like california and establish themselves in texas and create jobs there. i'm not a big person on crediting government for creating jobs, i think these governors understand they can do the best to get out of the way and allow business to do their job. >> i was talking to david mercer earlier, he worked as a democrat taking credit for the president's policies, which he says has brought the unemployment rate down to 6.7. others argue that's not the real rate, some people have stopped looking. how much credit should this administration take for the jobs that have been provided. is it enough, are we going in the right direction? >> i think this is hardly a booming economy, this is one of the worst recoveries in recent history. as you mentioned, the real unemployment rate is above 12%, that includes those who are discouraged from looking for work. i don't think this is a model of a great economy here. what the president is actually proposing right now, in many ways an anti-jobs program, most

notably increasing the minimum wage. as the cbo has said, that will cost between 500,000 and a million jobs. as anyone knows, that raises the cost of labor, it encourages businesses to automate, if you've been to cbs recently, you've seen they have a lot of automation for checking out. that only increases the incentive to do that. i'm not sure the president's policies are responsible for a great recovery. i'm not sure we've had a great recove roy. in fact, it's one of the worst recoveries in recent memory. >> that is a good example as we go to check out our items, chances are someone has to come over because we've done something wrong. if we don't, we've just taken a job from someone else. the president will certainly talk about a lot of things he accomplishes as we get closer to the the midterm elections. i believe that jobs is the one that people feel most in their pocketbooks, especially small business owners who are the largest employers in our nation.

how are they being impacted by obama care? is there enough certainty for them to be able to project their costs and now start hiring? >> well, i think there's a lot of regulations in obama care that are problematic to small businesses and businesses generally. but i don't think it's just obama care. if you want to do a jobs program in my mind, as i said, reduce regulation, i'm a big fan of the stossel rule, named after john stossel, the fox news host. for every regulation you add, eliminate two, three regulations that are burdening businesses already. also what i think is important, the number one domestic change, which will be an ultimate jobs program in the long run is fixing our long term fiscal program. if businesses know that we don't have 80 trillion in unfunded liabilities that we can't pay for, and that our economy is going to be find in the long run, they're going to be more confident in investing for the future, and building businesses and creating jobs. i think there are steps that can

be taken to build the confidence that america is on the right track to pay its debts. that would be great for businesses to step in and actually create jobs. >> let me just sneak in one last question. our troops are coming home as we withdraw. students are graduating from colleges without jobs in record numbers. when they hit the workforce, what do you see as the impact on the unemployment rates? >> well, obviously when you have more people coming in with a limited amount of jobs at the moment the unemployment rate would go up. that doesn't have to be the case. we're a dynamic economy, we can expand the pie if you will. and i think some of the policies to reduce regulation would do that, you just have to unleash small businesses and businesses to want to hire workers and expand their companies. i think more regulations does not provide an incentive to do that. >> interesting perspective, john stossel i believe would agree with you, it's mostly the libertarian view, more people learning more about. thank you, jamie, it's great to

have you here. >> the stossel rule, how about that. russian president vladimir putin, he's done it again. he annexed crimea. now with the buildup of russian troops on the eastern ukrainian border, could that be putin's target next? and can we and the europeans do anything to stop him?

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returning to one of our top stories, as reports come in of those shots fired. at least two people wounded after pro russian forces. that follows president putin's formal annexation of the region yesterday. this as russia continues to build up its troops on the eastern ukrainian border. executive director of the foundation for the defense of the democracies joins us. mark? could putin's next grab be part of eastern ukraine? >> it certainly can be. putin is already mobilizing troops on the borders. we certainly have seen some evidence that eastern and southeastern ukraine may be his next move. we've also heard speculation that he may be coveting parts of

muldova and a long term strategic vision of taking bites out of the baltics. putin is trying to re-establish the soviet union in practical terms he called the demise of the soviet union the greatest geo political catastrophe of the 20th century. >> it seems like he's on the move trying to do that. how do you think this will play out? you have ethnically russian speaking people in those countries, in moldova, for example, one by one, they can now fall under the kremlin, looming kremlin gaze, they'll say look, crimea, they joined russia, are back with moscow, we want to do the same thing too. >> putin wants to take bites of the european apple, he's showing with georgia, crimea, that he has a very well developed and very well thought out playbook

about how to do that. the united states, which i think has created a real vacuum, a real power vacuum in the world will get the europeans to begin to try to send a message to putin that there is a protective barrier around much of europe, and we're not going to allow him to move further. >> they've been sending that message, they have the sanctions, two rounds now. the message isn't being received. in moscow, he's like this, he doesn't care. what type of strong message can we send? should we reinstall that missile defense shield in poland and the czech republic. >> absolutely, i think here are some of the things we can do. we can reinzaul the missile defense shields in those countries, we can provide military assistance to ukraine. we have to stop cutting and gutting the u.s. military budget. this is going to be a dangerous 21st century. we can send a serious message to

putin and his cronies. not only for them but the russian economy if they continue their territorial grabs. and i think we need to start really dealing with this energy issue, both for europe and the united states. we need to increase energy abundance, energy diversity, and we need to start shipping natural gas to our european partners, because they are too dependent right now on putin and natural gas exports. >> finally, 20 seconds, is he going to stop? >> i don't think he's going to stop. unless we do something to inflict enough economic and political pain on putin. the other thing we need to do is, we also need to go after putin in russia and places like syria. right now the most important ally of russia, syria, and bashar al assad is winning on the ground. and that is a significant threat to american security interests. there is a moderate opposition still left in syria.

let's beat them there. >> we have a lot on our plate, and he's not listening so far. thanks so much. >> thanks. that does it for us. >> stay right where you are, because greg and athel join you next with the missing malaysian plane in ukraine. have a great day. [ woman ] i've always tried to see things from the best angle i could. it's how i look at life. especially now that i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. i was taking warfarin but wondered, could i focus on something better?

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