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>> announcer: "fox news sunday" is a presentation of fox news. it has turned into one of the greatest aviation mysteries of all time. the disappearance . it has turned into one of the greatest aviation mysteries of all time, the disappearance of malaysian flight 370 with 239 passengers on board. welcome to the mystery of flight 370. tonight we take you inside the story, how it happened as it happened. we take you to the questions that remain. this first broke on "the kelly files" early saturday morning malaysian time. fox news alert, we have breaking
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news tonight on a missing commercial jet. we learned the plane left kuala lumpur and never arrived at its destination. worried families awaiting loved ones see delayed on the beijing airport screens. soon it's revealed that two stolen passports were used by passengers to board that plane. that detail sparking the first real suspicions that this may have been no accident. the airline calls in a disaster recovery company fearing the worst but saying, quote, we are not ruling anything out. meanti meantime, former faa official scott brenner tells us the following. >> one of the things -- one of the advances we've seen in some of these boeing aircrafts is they are constantly connected with all their important data that is constantly being communicated tho their home bas. >> by sunday, march 9, it was communicated this this plane may have turned around not northeast but southwest to the indian
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ocean. but the search still continues off malaysia's east coast. the monday after the disappearance, the "new york times" reports the search area is expanding. there is wide speculation over the aircraft's fate. a character named mr. ali emerges, an iranian who paid for the jr. heourneys of the men wie stolen passports. the one-way tickets were bought last minute and paid in cash. they told "the kelly files" they suspect foul play. >> the 737 is such a reliable airplane, i can't imagine there was some sort of structural malfunction that was enough to bring this airplane down. >> the men with the stolen passports are identified as iranian nationals, but authorities discount any links to terrorism, suggesting their goal was to emigrate to europe.
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this as we learn about the plane's new track. it seemed to disappear into thin air with 239 people on board. the people conducting the investigation is now claiming 370 went 170 miles off course before it went off radar. conflicting information continues to come from the malaysians while route changes come under more scrutiny. is there any chance, mike, that these were confused pilots? i don't know what may have happened to shut off the transponder, but they may have thought when they made the u-turn that they were going the direction they meant to be going? >> with those pilots and expertise and experience, no, there was something that caused that airplane to turn and go south. >> day 5. a wednesday. we learn the final words from the cockpit were seemingly calm, "all right. good night." no mayday call was ever issued. concern grows that this was deliberate.
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>> i think as brennan has stated, that you cannot rule out terrorism at this point. >> then the chinese released two satellite images of what they suggest might be pieces of the wre wreckage. they appear off malaysia's east coast. that very next day, that lead falls apart. new reports tonight that the plane's communication system was shut down manually and not because of catastrophic failure. also, the wall street journal is now reporting that this plane -- this is the new information -- flew up to five hours -- five hours -- after communications went dark. u.s. investigators are now reportedly looking into the possibility that it was diverted to a secret location. the chinese leader at mitz their satellite images were a false alarm. by now almost a week has passed. and then -- >> at the end of the day, what you have is a plane that was going erratically in different
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directions and was going up and down in ways a plane obviously is not supposed to, and this raises the questions i was saying before about who was controlling the plane at that point? was it someone who didn't know how to fly a plane? >> attention increases on the pilots. yet that the time they have not searched their homes. we also learn the planes made significant changes in altitude after it changed its course. and suspicions continue that the plane may have landed somewhere. >> i think the plane may have landed somewhere. that i don't know. i've looked 75 feet inland with the large hangars in pakistan and in eastern iran. >> by saturday malaysia declares this is a criminal matter. >> this is consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane. >> in a bombshell development, it emerges that the plane was detected by satellites through 8:11 a.m., the day it
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disappeared. nearly eight hours after takeoff and seven hours after air traffic control lost track of the aircraft. but still, no answers as to where it was going or why. the search is expanded to a daunting area off malaysia's west coast, including a northern and southern track in the indian ocean. sunday, march 16. authorities claim the plane's communication system known as acars, was disabled before the pilot's last words to air traffic control, leading to questions about why the crew did not raise this issue. but the timing of the acars shutdown would later be called into question. that same day, malaysia's government reveals the captain's personal flight simulator is being examined. and by the next day -- >> we're not miss anything. i think someone clearly was up to no good. >> we learn it was a co-pilot that issued the final words of the flight "all right. good night."
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the company search has grown from 18 to 26. >> the companies involved in this investigation, they're telling me at least within the first 26 minutes of that flight, the pilots were already changing the flight path. so what we originally thought was the plane had gone up, basically flying towards us on its original course to beijing and then signing off with air traffic control and then making a westerly turn, we now know within those first 26 minutes, they were in contact with air traffic control. >> so the pilots had intentionally changed their path, but the reason why remains a mystery. asian authority now reveals the acars system could have been shut down any time between 1:07 and 1:37 a.m., not necessarily before the co-pilot signed off. the total search area is now at more than 2 million square nautical miles. the next day we learn that files have been deleted from the captain's at-home flight simulator. but what files and why?
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the fbi steps in to help as the families of the missing reach the breaking point. on thursday, march 20, potentially big news from australia, whose prime minister said satellites have spotted debris off the aussie's west coast that may belong to the missing plane. this lines up with the southern path identified as one possible route for the plane. two large objects are spotted from the skies. but not by initial searchers who head to the spot. officials underscore it could be unrelated to this plane. >> so an international effort to find this plane is focused on the southern indian ocean. but figuring out where 370 came to rest does not answer the why or the how. just ahead, the unavoidable questions about the two men flying this jet. what we know and what we do not. >> hi, everyone. thls a u-2 video i had made as a
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at first, flight 370 was just delayed, at first flight 370 was just delayed, then missing, then feared crashed. but a fourth idea started to take hold within 24 hours of takeoff that this plane had been hijacked. our chief intelligence correspondent katherine heritage has been tracking that part of the story from washington. >> megyn, within hours of the jet's disappearance, investigators focused on two passengers who used stolen passports to board flight 370. the men purchased those tickets through an iranian middle man. >> he's been identified. he's iranian. >> intelligence officials emphasized that while the men's profiles were run through multiple databases, no positive hits for terrorism were found. it was later determined that at least one of the iranians was meeting his mother in germany. while all passengers' backgrounds were scoured for flight training, nothing was ruled out. >> one possibility is hijacking.
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>> uls u.s. officials were alson to the possibility of terrorism. >> we know there are terrorist groups still open to attacks. >> then this were hijacking reports. >> despite media reports that the plane was hijacked, i wish to be very clear. we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused flight 370 to deviate from its original flight path. >> with 152 chinese nationals among the missing passengers, beijing said there was no terrorism linked to its citizens. and malaysian investigators refocused its efforts with the fbi getting involved. >> we are working with authorities in malaysia. we're trying to offer any assistance that we can, but at
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this point, i don't think we have any theories that i could p propound. >> with dramatic changes in the aircraft's altitude reported, formal intelligence and homeland security officials say the pilots may have taken heroism actions like they did in 9/11. >> they may have carried it out just like they did in 9/11. >> until the black boxes are found, investigators will determine whether flight 370 was taken down in a criminal act for a catastrophic event. megyn? >> more with mike boyd, analyst for boyd group international. peter brooks is a former cia officer and former defense secretary, and peter phillips, a former flight instructor. peter, let me start with you on this. in light of the most recent developments looking down on the site of australia, many saying this was consistent with a flight path that would have been on auto pilot and gone straight
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past an airport, do you believe that terrorism or hijacking is diminished? >> well, you know, the other possibility, megyn, is whoever took control of this aircraft didn't want the aircraft to be found and put it out in a place that was very inhospitable to recovery operations or search operations. so as little as we know about possible motivations, i'm not ruling any of the above out at this point. >> mike, same question to you. >> absolutely. we don't know anything yet. all we know is the airplane disappeared. at this point in time, there are plausible arguments that it could have been a zombie airplane that something went wrong in the cockpit, but there's a lot of other information that's come out, misinformation in some cases from the malaysians, indicating there was something rotten in kuala lumpur, and this could be a terrorist act. >> and b act, you're
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talking about people flying incapacitated much like they did in the payne stewart airplane. many pilots have said don't throw these pilots under the bus, because these may have been heroes, not villains, who were struggling to save this plane from mechanical failure, and that may explain the coordinates typed in to get to an alternate airport and just continuation down south winding up someplace west of australia. >> well, you know, megyn, i'm not ready to throw anybody under the bus at this point. however, in addition to being a pilot, i've been a criminal lawyer for the last 18 years. and what i know is that a proper investigation begins with ascertaining facts. unfortunately, to me, the facts suggest that this was a crime, this was a hijacking. the one key fact, and i think you broke it first a couple nights ago, was that the aircraft made a dramatic turn to the west, and it made that turn prior to the co-pilot making his last transmission to air traffic
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control. at that point, the troansponder were turned off and it went dark, and that suggests hijacking. ztz tha >> that is a key point. scott brennan who was at the faa in 9/11 and broke that news here, and we questioned it that very night, mike, because they were saying, look, the transponder was -- tracked the plane prior to that, and it doesn't match up. in other words, the ascertainable radar data doesn't support that assertion. i think we have to put a question mark on that point. we don't know for sure. what we do know is a destination that was west and not in the plane's original journey was programmed in prior to when they signed off from air traffic control, but i'm not sure what we can glean from that. >> we do know that they did not put 7700 into the transponders
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into the transponder, which is the emergency code, they did not put in the hijacking code, they turned it off. so we have to infer there was human involvement in this and it has to be a hijacking or stolen aircraft. >> mike? >> i have to agree entirely. and for safety's sake, we have to assume that going forward if someone has this airplane, that's a real stretch, and want to do something with it, sometime in the next 12 months they might do something with it, we need to look into those options. but i have to agree with the lawyer. it doesn't look good, and we can make excuses, but there is too many points here that just don't add up. >> peter brooks, we had lieutenant general mcinerny saying he thinks this plane could have made it to pakistan and that that's where we need to be looking. your thoughts on it? >> tom is a friend of mine, and i understand his theory there,
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and i give some plausability to it, and i'd like to know why israel has reacted so strongly to the disappearance of this aircraft. i can't say more than what tom told under the circumstances because he has the sources, but a few nights ago, we talked about how israel is very concerned and putting their air traffic controllers and their air defense systems on high alert. so what do they know that the rest of us may not know, if anything, about the disposition of this aircraft? >> and a lot of the officials we had on the broadcast have told us, even off the air, that they believe the american officials probably know much more than they're letting on, no matter what that information leads to. mechanical issues, terrorism issues, what have you. gentlemen, thank you. >> thank you. sdp >> thank you. >> thank you. >> so many air disasters are eventually blamed on pilot error, but what if this is different? what if one of the pilots intended to cause harm, that it wasn't an error, it was planned?
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up next, what we've uncovered about the two men in the cockpit. and then, this search is now unfolding more than 1,000 miles to anywhere. what does that mean for our mystery? we'll look for answer when "the kelly files" returns. [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children lauing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where th almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some financial folks who will talk to them about preparing early for retirement and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense.
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welcome back. whatever happened aboard this welcome back. whatever happened on board this missing jetliner, there was one
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thing that did not happen. there was not a single warning, not a mayday call, a single beacon, no sign of trouble. that has resulted in a number of questions about these two men. we take a look at the captain, the co-pilot and what was happening in that cockpit. >> megyn? one plane, 239 lives dependent on the character, judgment and expertise of these pilots. deliberate or accident? what happened on flight 370 will always reflect on what these two men did or did not do. 53-year-old captain zahari shaw joined the airline in 1981. he also built the simulator that officials received on february 3rd. he may have simply cleaned his hard drive. >> the forensic work to retrieve
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this data is ongoing. >> just hours before he took control of flight 370, the government sentenced distant relative and opposition leader anwar ibrahim to jail. to some, a motive. also in focus, first officer fareed abdul hameed, age 27. hameed joined them five years ago and just graduated to the 757. there was no sense of distress. this 2011 photo shows hameed with two women he invited into the cockpit for an hour of smoking and flirting. one called the experience friendly but sleazy. >> he took my friend's hand and said, your hand is very creased. that means you're a creative person. >> this would suggest if this was a deliberate act, one pilot
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would have to in kpcapacitate t other. it would not be the first time a lone wolf pulled off a murder. former analyst, former commercial jet pilot and former airline instructor, and mark boyd, instructional analyst. the lack of a mayday call, kathleen, that is the point on which so many people who want to give the pilots the benefit of the doubt get hung up on. your thoughts on it? >> i don't get hung up on it at all, and i can tell you as a former airline pilot and airline instructor, i don't really find this unusual, because as everyone knows from watching the news the past few days, there is an old saying first you aviate, you fly the airplane, then you navigate. if you have time, you communicate. potentially what happened, and this is a theory, that what happened was so sudden and so catastrophic that they didn't have time to react and to actually make that call. >> walk us through that, because
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as a layperson you say, how can you not have time to press a button and say "mayday." >> we do know there is a very good chance the captain was at the controls. one pilot tends to be at the controls, and the pilot not flying, in this case maybe the co-pilot, made the radio call. what would be interesting to find out ahead of time is if we could determine, possibly through air traffic control tapes, if there were earlier radio calls made. i would be very, very interested to know if we heard the captain's voice at all once they took off. the captain would be on the radio on the ground. but if the captain was on the air when they were flying from kuala lumpur to beijing and suddenly we hear that last call from the co-pilot, there is a very good chance that would mean there was an in-flight problem or emergency. in something like that in a crisis, what a captain might say is, you have the airplane, i'm going to work the problem, and you have the radios. so i would really like to hear those air traffic control tapes and see if possibly the captain
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had been on the radio earlier. >> and our information had been -- but this was just from one faa source -- that the captain had not been on the radio on this airplane journey, but that needs to be confirmed by more people. mike, your thoughts on it? because the absence of the mayday call, many people have talked about it, yet we learned in the payne stewart airplane crash who was also a so-called zombie flight where the decompression happened and the passengers -- everybody was flying -- nobody was flying the aircraft, there wasn't a mayday call in that situation, either. >> that was because it was, as the captain just mentioned, a catastrophic incident that took the whole airplane out. >> and it flew for several hours before it crashed. >> absolutely. that could be the case here, there's no question. again, the question is, was the airplane turned by the pilot, was it turned by the navigation system? those are all open questions. and there's a lot of plausible answers here. i still smell something. one thing that bothers me is the assumption is that the trajectory that airplane was making the last time some contact was made with it was one
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they would keep. if it was a hijacked airplane and we didn't know where it was after that last contact, that could have been taken back up north, south, east or west, and that really complicates the matter. >> so something could have gone wrong after that point. before i let you go, quickly, mike, no history of extremism in either of the backgrounds as far as we can tell? everybody who knows them tell us these are good guys, no history of problems, they loved their airline, they loved to fly airplanes. >> yeah. all we found out was kapt takcas been with the company basically over 30 years. the captain had some girls in the cockpit. he's a red-blooded guy, an american hustler, and his technique isn't all that smooth. other than that, there's nothing we really know about these two guys. >> wound up falling in love and meeting the right woman. the pilot's wife had just left him, according to some reports. thank you both. whatever happened to this plane, searchers are focusing
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live from america's news headquarters, i'm robert gray. crews pulling four more bodies from the debris caused by that landslide in washington state. that brings the death toll to eight. some people are still missing and a county fire chief says the situation remains fluid. the mudslide hit saturday, leaving mud, rocks and trees over a 1-square-mile area. it destroyed 30 homes and forced part of a highway to shut down. meantime, china's state news agency saying a chinese plane crew has spotted an object in the southern indian ocean. it's in an area where satellite images picked up possible debris
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from missing malaysia airlines flight 370. the object is described as white and square-shaped. recently satellite images from both china and austtified what linked to the missing jetliner. i'm robert gray. now more on flight 370 in a kelly file special. welcome back to our "kelly file" special, the mystery of flight 370. for now the focus of search involves a patch of water miles from anywhere. it's stormy, fierce and hard to reach. that's just the beginning of this challenge. chase gallagher has that part of our report. chase? >> megyn, the reason they're focusing so heavily on the southern indian ocean is because there's no confirmed radar from any country that indicates that flight 370 continued flying on a northward path. there is radar data that indicates the plane wasn't released for a while flying west
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and then south. but finding debris may be the easier part of this monumental search because beyond that, hurdles become amazingly high. first they'll use wind and ocean currents to see how far the debris drifted. when they agree on a general vicinity, sonar buoys can be dropped into the water to pick up pings from the black boxes or radio transmitters. but the pings can only be detected a mile away and the batteries only last 30 days. they could send manned or unmanned subs but the plane could be miles deep like the crash back in 2009. that crash debris was found in five days but it took two years and $100 million to recover the black boxes. add to that the indian ocean is known for underwater vol contain ow -- volcanos, earthquakes and
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landslides, and if you have lead on it, it possibility gets even lower. >> a former ntsb and air travel investigator. shawn pernicky used to be a pilot and aviation investigate or and john fox an investigator. good to see you all. let me start with you on this, dr. diehl. the thought of going two or three miles under the ocean to try to find bits and pieces that may or may not be there seems overwhelming. how do they start? >> well, you're certainly right, megyn. we've done it before in the west indian ocean. we found a 747 south aft. south african airways lost one back in 1977. they knew roughly where the
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aircraft was, but they didn't get to it while the pings were still operational. it took them two years, and it answered the riddle. >> they call this body of ocean the roaring 40s because these seas are so overwhelming. they're talking about some of these waves getting up 32 feet high. how are they even supposed to search out there? >> well, you're exactly right. extremely challenging, and very adverse conditions, right? so part of this is using gps technology, which is something that is far more accessible now than some of the past investigations some of the other guests have talked about. but using that technology with known search patterns, these folks are trained to do this. they know how to do this. but that still doesn't negate the size of the task at hand. just a tremendous volume to cover. >> we're told once they're down there, they can use by knock r
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lar -- binoculars, they can spot digital radar. do you believe if something is there, they will find it? >> it's going to be very difficult, megyn. the sea state you pointed out with 32-foot waves, what you have there is essentially 32-foot rolling hills that radar won't penetrate. so if you have something in the trough of a wave, and what you're looking at suddenly pops up on the top of a wave and disappears again and you're sweeping your radar or you're looking out the window, it can make it very difficult even though you are looking at the right area at the right time, you're still looking through a soda straw and a wave moves it and it's gone. >> dr. diehl, how much confidence do you place in this particular search area? experts like you would get together, they would do math, they would figure out the currents, they would know where to look, we assume, but that's when you know generally where the plane descended. >> obviously, once we establish
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whether or not these debris on top of the water are part of the aircraft, then we know where to start. but, you know, we've talked about a needle in a haystack. right now we're looking at a needle in nebraska. we may find a needle in a hayfield, but once we find the haystack, then i'm quite confident, if we do it in the next few weeks when the pingers are operational, we'll be able to find it, particularly if the u.s. navy sends a fleet of their p-3 o ryans to that area. we have 150 of those aircraft in the inventory. we could get dozens of those to that area, a couple dozen, anyway, quickly. >> you know, shawn, we've been told we have 29 vessels out there searching and that 25 of them are pursuing this southern arc, four of them are pursuing the northern arc. it certainly seems those who are in the know much more so than we all are believe this plane went south and may, indeed, be in the south indian ocean. >> i think you're exactly right. i think this is where the search
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needs to concentrate. based on the data that we have now, megyn, we have to go on what we have. and as little as it is, it certainly points to this area, and i think this is where the investigation is going to need to focus. >> for those watching, hopes high, hopes not so high. >> i don't think they would be spending the time bringing the prime minister of australia to a news conference to talk about this evidence or this debris that they found and to be concentrating on what is such a desolate part of the planet. they're looking at a particular area of that. something, i think, led them there and my hopes are up. >> the defense minister of australia called this a logistical nightmare. we are in the most isolated part of the world, he said. gentlemen, thank you. relatives of those on board the plane had a roller coaster of heartbreak and suspicion.
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that part of the investigation is next. she's dropped to the floor. and she can't move. 239 souls . >> 239 souls, remember, on board that aircraft. i had loved ones on board. for the last 12 days, they've been given no information whatsoever. people are falling over, being shoved by the authorities. we're going to try and stand up. i'm going to try to get through while i'm reporting for you. they're literally shoving people out of the way.
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people are being shoved by the authorities. so we're going to the women are trying to stand up. i'm in the front of this. i'm going to keep reporting for you. they're literally shoving people out of the way. one of the family members was shoved to the wall and he can't move. 239 souls, remember, on board that aircraft. these people had loved ones on board. for the last 12 days, they've been given no information whatsoever. >> this is pandemonium. that was the scene at a recent dramatic news briefing on the missing malaysian jet. a sky news reporter discussing
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how a relative was dragged out by a reporter. aviation analyst with us, peter brooks as well, and mark dunbroth is a former u.s. attorney. nice to see you all. i spoke with a senior executive of the satellite group that tracked this plane heading westward first and foremost. they knew it two days later. they told authorities no later than the wednesday the plane went missing, and still malaysia allowed the focus to be on the east coast of malaysia and didn't even come out until three, four, almost five days later to say, oh, we should be searching on the west coast, not the east coast. is that incompetence, peter, or is that something worse than incompetence? >> megyn, there's a lot at play
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here. you have to remember this is a national airlines, it's not a private company, so the government is responsible for it. also i think our expectations are very high because we're so blessed with having such terrific law enforcement and intelligence and public relation skills here in the united states. my view is that in some cases, and i don't know this, but my sense is that this tragedy, if it is a tragedy, as we believe it is now, exceeded the capacity of the malaysian government to deal with it. so i'm not sure there was any benevolence or malfeasance indicated here in confidence, but that it's just different culture in malaysia. >> i left out a third option, good old-fashioned responsibility. that same satellite communications executive said, look, they wanted to run down leads. it's not a smoking gun. they didn't want to sort of get
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everybody engaged on the wrong coast before they really had confidence that the information was right. but that's just one of many things the malaysian government has done that has concerned people. >> i think, megyn, the flow of information has been very troubling in terms of not only its speed or lack of speed but also the fact that they haven't really provided, it seems, reliable information. i think it's very difficult because the facts are simply not there yet. the malaysian government in many respects is sitting and waiting as it relates to locating the airplane. the investigation -- certainly the investigation has started, but it's very difficult to investigate an aircraft accident until you've located the aircraft. >> let me ask you about that. how much anger and frustration is just borne of that, the fact that tragedy has struck and there are no answers to give? >> i think you put your finger on it in terms of these scenes we've seen of the families. i've handled many, many airline accidents on behalf of the airlines. the number one thing that the
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families want, the number one thing, is information. and the airlines that we represent -- i represent -- are very sophisticated in dealing with these sorts of situations. they train very hard. malaysia airlines has procedures for this sort of thing. but the families want information. and that information doesn't come from the airline, megyn, it comes from the investigators, and the investigators are, in fact, the malaysian government. >> mike, you have to imagine how terrible it is for these families. one day it's hijacking, next day it's catastrophic mechanical failure. next day it could be terrorism. the next day the chinese are saying it's over here, the next day the australians are saying, we think it's over here. then we get information that it's the most isolated place in the ocean with 30-foot seas and you have to sit and wonder about your loved one. >> anguish must be intolerable for these people, but where i
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drag the malaysians into this, there is a term you learn when you're trying to explain what happened, and that is we don't have that information at this time. we don't know. you don't let anything out unless you're sure it's accurate, and that we can't accuse the malaysians of doing. we had misinformation of when this thing made contact. we had misinformation of when it made a turn and two days later they told us it made a turn. they handled this at best in competently, and you have to ask yourself some questions. >> you can see the anguish that would happen no matter what, but with all the crazy turns this investigation has taken, you have to feel especially for these families. gentlemen, thank you. >> thank you. coming up, how is the missing malaysian plane affecting the flying public? an interesting look at that question next.
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welcome back, the mystery of welcome back. the mystery of this missing plane has captured the world's attention. and we want to know how it makes people feel about flying. frank lunts put that question to his focus group. >> we heard from the experts, now let's hear from the american people. how many of you are nervous to fly based on what's going on right now? why are you nervous? >> i'd be nervous to fly internationally, that's for sure. it doesn't seem like the type of background checks or the checks they're doing overseas in these countries like malaiysia even puts close to the competence we have here, if we're even that competent. >> clearly we weren't targeted. >> all i know is 30 years ago i flew and they were checking out
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toothpaste then. if we had profiling before and better screening, i wouldn't have any trouble flying. >> you want profiling. >> that's what the asians have been doing for decades -- >> racial profiling? >> no, they question them as to background, believes, and likelihood of carrying things. >> who is nervous to fly based on what's going on? tell me why. >> i feel much more comfortable to fly on an american airline because they have money for security issues and they are kind of well known. >> just the fact that two guys got on this plane with stolen passports, that really scares me. >> stay with us. our "kelly file" mystery of flight 370 will continue right after this.
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we want to know what you think happened to this aircraft. tell us what you think at we want to know what you think happened to this aircraft. tell us what you think at facebook.com/kellyfile. let me know your thoughts. thanks for watching, everybody. i'm megyn kelly.
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this is a special "kelly file." ♪ ♪ birds singing in. i'm chris wallace, in the search for malaysia airlines flight 370. the investigation now focuses on objects spotted by satellite in the indian ocean. >> it's about the most inaccessible spot on the face of the earth. if there is anything down there, we will find it. >> the fbi tries to retrieve files deleted from the pilot's flight simulator, while passengers families continue their agonizing wait. we'll have a live report on breaking developments and we'll talk with michael mccaul, chair of the house homeland security committee and alan

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