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bill: whatever the truth, ultimately 239 souls on flight 370. one of them on twitter. lift all loved ones for mh370. thank you for being our support and inspiration. phillip wood. age 50 from texas. martha: we'll be back later with more. jon: fox news alert. the long mystery as to what happened to malaysia airlines flight 370 might be coming to an end. good morning to you. i'm jon scott. jenna: hope you're off to a great week so far. i'm jenna lee. the latest from malaysian prime minister saying that the flight 370 ended in the southern indian ocean. new analysis of the satellite data that the plane carrying 239 people crashed in the indian ocean west of australia. the prime minister also says that the families of the victims
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have all been informed. here is more of what he had to say. >> it is there for with deep sadness and regret that i must inform you that according to this new data flight mh370 ended in the southern indian ocean. jon: our next guest says investigators must now find the aircraft, not only the black boxes if they want to find out what truly happened to that flight. we have the president of four wind consulting and joins us now. obviously if they find the black boxes they will likely find most of the rest of the fuselage with them or nearby. why do you think it is so important that they find everything? >> well, they should be able to find, get most of the information from the black box
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but they will have the ability to get a great deal of forensic evidence what may have physically what happened to the airplane by looking at how the structureed tore or came apart. to see if there was any fire damage. to see if there was any damage that happened to the aircraft before impact. all traffic investigators are trained to do that with ferrous and non-ferrous met it is as well as electrical wiring as well. the accident reminds me of problems we had and issues with the apollo 1 bad fire. astronaut frank borman said that nasa suffered a failure imagination. they could never imagination that such an incident could have occurred on a unfueled rocket strapped to the ground. we look at how aircraft are built in the future this is really challenging our imagination what kind of failure modes we can expect for these types of oceanic flying because a lot of factuals go against a lot of things we come to expect
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in accident investigation. jon: what about the possibility of a fire in the cargo hold or a fire that resulted in catastrophic, sudden decompression of the flight, does that fit what you have seen so far? >> catastrophic sudden decompression certainly would, would lent itself to the credence somebody has to turn around to go to lower altitude. that is something that happened before and we've seen that but we don't normally see airplanes fly for five hours when they're on fire. normally if they're on fire, a fire in the cargo hold and 20 minutes at most or they will be crashing or landing. jon: that is why this story has been such a mystery because none of the scenarios seems to fit the facts. now, this is not helped by the fact that in the early going the malaysian government was releasing information which later had to walk back and some of those timelines certainly made a hash of everything. but can you construct a scenario in which this plane ended up
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where it did in the southern indian ocean? >> well, i think we have to, we have to think about the fact that no person, no pilot who is recently trained or competent would put the aircraft there. so one of the possibilities we have to consider is that the pilots may have been incapacitated by the time the aircraft headed in that direction. but again, we simply are not going to know until we find the airplane itself and get the data recovery. jon: what about the data, the black boxes themselves? they have a loop, at least the voice, the cockpit voice recorder has a loop. is it a two-hour loop as far as you know? >> i don't know the design for this particular aircraft. they depend, older versions hat a shorter loop. the new versions have a longer two-hour loop. i would assume this would be a more, a more design for a two-hour loop but we'll just have to see. i think boeing corporation might be able to tell us that. jon: i wonder if there could ultimately be frustration if and
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when the black bongses are found, some kind of a situation which maybe that plane had been flying along for hours with no pilot input whatsoever and they get the boxes, get the voice recorder and essentially there is nothing on them. that is nothing to tells what happens, what happened to the plane? >> at least 300 parameters that are recorded in most of these flight data recorders. and those parameters tell us an enormous about what happened on the airplane. whether the cockpit switches were, where the controls were manipulated. where the automatic functions really on or off. so once you start looking at all that data collectively you will be able to paint a fairly detailed picture exactly what happened to the airplane. jon: i just know that the cockpit voice recorder generally gets recorded over after a certain period of time. if we had pilots in the cockpit who were incapacitated they are not going to be saying anything. >> true. jon: even flight data recorder has a longer loop but that also gets recorded over after a
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certain period of time. if that plane flew on for six or seven hours with no pilot inputs whatsoever i'm wondering how much they will be able to learn from the recorders? >> and that really brings up another point which is that the airplane did not communicate to the outside world. and maybe one of the failure modes that we just never thought about was maybe we should have the ability for that airplane to be able to communicate via satellite, to the outside world without any pilot interaction. i don't know. i am sure one thing for transport category aircraft that are flying these oceanic routes somebody in the faa or one of the investigative agencies is thinking about right now. jon: i wanted to get your opinion as to why now? i mean why all of a sudden does the prime minister come out and say we have developed information that leads us to believe the flight ended in the southern pacific -- southern indian ocean? seems like that is something they could have known quite a
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bit earlier and if they had, all of the frustrations, all of the agony would not have stretched out so long? >> i can only speculate and that is always a dangerous thing to do but sometimes the coordination between military radar and civilian radar isn't always a very firm handshake and sometimes the way that we archive military radar and the way we archive civilian radar is different. when i was in the navy and i was flying in the med trainian we dealt with both military and civilian radars and i can tell you there is quite a bit of difference the way they handle themselves and they don't always talk to each other. jon: also the fact that malaysia is a small country and not necessarily one that is used to have the world's attention focused on it in this way. john, that you so much. >> thank you. jenna: we'll continue to watch the developments on malaysian airline flight that disappeared. in the meantime we'll turn to news back here at home and there is details this hour on the deadly mudslide in washington
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state that killed eight people. more than a dozen still missing and rescue crews are continuing their search for survivors today. others who survived are getting help from the red cross. many still shocked what happened. >> this is total disaster beyond belief. just the power of the mud and water that came down through here, wow. >> i can't even describe it. it is like looking at pictures from mount st. helens and the river and everything is covered in gray. it is surreal. and i mean it is everywhere. >> we've been watching that slide for the last three weeks. every time we drive down below it kept looking over there and it was another chunk and it was growing. jenna: scary thoughts now. dan springer is live in arlington, washington, with the latest. dan? >> reporter: jenna the latest that death toll as you mentioned stands at eight. it is expected to rise. officials say this is still being called a search-and-rescue operation but hopes of finding
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anymore survivors are fading. five more bodies were pulled from that muddy mess yesterday. sunday afternoon crews were able to get out there but the efforts have been hampered by the dangerous conditions. the slide is unstable and being described as like quicksand. the first night people heard cries for help but yesterday, only silence. the landslide destroyed 30 homes, leaving dozens of people homeless and red cross shelters very busy. 18 people are listed as missing. though that number could go up. stories are heartbreaking. a man looking for his sister. knows in his heart she's gone. a woman looking for her husband. he is an electrician and was doing a job in the neighborhood was destroyed and a woman took to social media for answers. >> just happened to see a picture on facebook of the mudslide and i recognized it assistantly as my parents backyard. i want to know where she is. i want some answers and it is really, really hard not being in the loop or being in control.
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>> reporter: this disaster could get a lot worse. the landslide essentially plugged the north fork of the river and there is new lake being formed behind this earthen dam. if that dam is breached all at once and all the lake water is released down river there could be catastrophic flooding and major damage to three bridges. there was some good news late yesterday. a down river vac vision order was lifted. -- evacuation order was lifted. some water is getting through and around the dam and that is risking and lowering pressure of a major breach. >> water that is coming out on the other side of the dam and heading downstream, it is okay. it is expected. it is coming out at a good pace. we have to remember the riverbed is very lowdown stream. there is a lot of capacity for this water to move up. >> this area has a history of slides. there was one in 1967 and another one in 2006. weather has been a major contributing factor this time
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around. this has been a very wet month n fact, normal is four 1/2 inches in this area. they have already had over seven and it is expected to get wet again on tuesday and be rainy throughout the rest of this week. so again search efforts continuing but again the hopes are fading of finding anybody alive. jenna. jenna: have to think about the families there. dan, thank you very much. jon: well there's a shocker for fans of a popular tv drama. the plot twist no one saw coming on, "the good wife." now reaction is pouring in. also live to the white house and the last push to get obamacare sign-ups. the deadline in case you don't have your obamacare yet, now just one week away. what the president is doing. plus the new problems popping up. we'll go in depth. peace of mind is important when you're running a successful business. so we provide it services you can rely on.
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jenna: this is the latest reaction on the news from malaysia today that malaysian airlines flight 370 did indeed go down in the southern indian ocean. the plane of course has not been located. if you're just joining us, malaysia's prime minister came out about an hour ago and confirmed this is their belief, that no one on board survived and that the plane crashed. most of those families of the 239 were chinese families and china certainly has been upset with the communication thus far with malaysia. we're getting some new information into our newsroom as well from the white house. the president of course is in europe where he had a series of meetings with the white house through the deputy national security advisor ben rhodes, making some comments saying that the united states will continue to support the search efforts as they go on today. zeroing in on this one place in the south indian ocean that was new reaction.
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obviously so much grief, from so many about this mysterious disappearance. we'll continue to bring you the latest as we get it. jon: well the clock now ticking on obamacare. the deadline to get signed up for health insurance just a week away, if you don't have it through your employer or some other means. but new problems are popping up with some people still having trouble getting coverage through the healthcare.gov website. all this as the obama administration makes a final pitch with the president pushing for more sign-ups, even while he's overseas. joining us now, we have senior politics reporter for "u.s. news & world report." this thing was born four years ago when the president signed it into law. here we are, the march 31 deadline just days away. how would you assess the state of obamacare, david? >> well look, they have got about a million more sign-ups to make in the next week, to meet that 6 million person new, sort of, new insurance person goal
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that they set but the interesting thing is, look, the president is almost trying to flood the zone with his administration almost like a campaign. they're deploying administration officials all across the country to target at radio markets, television markets where uninsus live to try to get people to sign up but there's a division on some of the tactics on how to do it because there's, some people who believe, look, you've got to tell people they will be penalized if they have a financial penalty if they don't sign up by march 31st, but you have some people in the state saying look, we'll not using scare tactics to try to get people to sign up. they're not, it will be interesting to see if they make it to six million. even if they don't make it to six million, there is going to be people who don't sign up, that missed the deadline. the question that i have is, how far are they going to go with these penalties in are we going
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to see a string of stories people are penalized because they were either confused how to sign you, they couldn't sign up, they didn't have the resources to sign up and how is the obama administration responding to those line of stories? jon: while the administration is trying to, i guess brag in effect about six million sign-ups there are at last count some five million people or five million policies that have been canceled under obamacare. it is practically a net wash, so it would seem at this point. talk to us some of the problems outlined in the "washington post" because of some quirks, bad language in the law, people who live apart from spouses who abused them for instance, are having trouble signing up. people who have twins are having trouble signing up through the website. what is going on? >> right. and then there is also the problem with filing your taxes and whether to encompass, whether you have insurance or not or whether you're going to have insurance within the next week or so into paying your
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taxes and, you know, h&r block is trying to explain to people, for instance, lay out the options saying, look, this is what you're going to be fined. this is what you're going to pay with obamacare. this is what you're growing to pay without it. but look, these are complex plans, very difficult decisions. i mean, everybody knows, trying to pick health insurance when you go through open enrollment even with your employer could be very confusing, depending your family, how many children you have, your income level. these are tough decisions. to try to make people settle on a plan within a week, if you're in that window of trying to do it this week, is really tough. jon: so the folks at h&r block and tax preparers all over the country are left to explain what, government incompetence or at least -- >> well, they have to explain a lot of these regulations. we know how big this, this piece of legislation is. and, you know, i mean, just reading the reports over the
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weekend, there is a lot of people that are just, they are trying to get insurance, that, are understand the penalty. they're now moving into trying to get help but they don't exactly understand which plan to choose, and frankly, is it more financially advantageous to take the financial hit in the first year and not sign up, and then try to sign up next year, when you have better information? and look, penalties start at $95 and go from there. jon: right. >> so you might have some people say, look, i will pay the penalty rather than maybe paying a higher fee. jon: for some folks 95 bucks doesn't sound so bad, but it is 95 bucks or 1% of your income, whichever is higher. that is big, big difference. david, "u.s. news & world report. thanks. jenna: we're tracking fate of flight 370 following a somber announcement by the malaysian prime minister that the plane
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did indeed go down in a remote corner of the indian ocean. the search continues for the plane. we'll keep you updated on that. take a look at this. a dramatic scene at chicago o'hare's airport after a commuter train jumps the tracks and on to an escalator. dozens injured. we're live with the story. >> the train was all the way up the escalator. they say the driver had a heart attack. >> there was a lost panic because it was hard to get them people off the train. it was just in shock. that's all. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ]
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jenna: investigators now looking into a train derailment at chicago o'hare's international airport that injured dozens of people t happened early this morning. the train was pulling into the station at the time but for some reason it failed to stop. it ended up landing on top of an
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airport escalator. garrett tenney is live in chicago with more. garrett, do we have any idea exactly what happened here? >> reporter: yeah, jenna, typically as trains come into the station here at o'hare international airport they will slow down, come to pretty much a stop there by the end because this is the last stop on the train line but witnesses say this train did not appear to decelerate at all as it entered the station until it ran into the bumpers they have there at the end that are supposed to stop the train. it jumped up on to the sidewalk and ended up running halfway up a set of stairs and an he escalator there at the end of the line. investigators are now reviewing video footage to find out how fast this train was going as it ran through the station and how this incident happened all together. officials they have said 32 people on board sustained what they're calling whiplash-like injuries in addition to bumps and bruises but all of them, we're told, were able to walk off the train on their own before they were taken to local
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hospitals. the national transportation safety board arrived here on scene in the last hour and they are now taking the lead of that investigation, we're expecting an update here from them shortly in the next hour, jenna. jenna: in that update, garrett, have they had a chance to talk and interview the driver yet? >> we spoke with someone from the chicago transit authority a short time ago and they said they have spoken to the train's operator. they say she was at the very front of that first car that went up the stairs and the escalator. she only had minor injuries. they have spoken to her. we should find out more about the details of that conversation and exactly what she said. we know in cases like these operator error is something they are always looking at very closely and as a part of that, right after the incident she did undergo some drug and alcohol testing. those results will come back at end of today and possibly tomorrow. we have spoken with several people here that have been working for the chicago transit authority for some 30 years and
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they say they have never seen anything quite like this and they say it will take at least the rest of the day to get the train, pretty much taken apart and removed from the station here at o'hare airport. jenna. jenna: such a busy airport. i'm sure that is a big project. garrett, thank you. jon: well, malaysia's prime minister just over and hour ago saying investigators have new evidence telling them generally where flight 370 came to an end. that it went down in the southern indian ocean. as a key piece of american equipment is now headed to that region to try to locate the plane's flight and voice recorder. live report with breaking details coming up next. also hitting the grocery store, getting more expensive. you probably noticed the cost of major staples from bacon to juice and fruit, all rising. we'll look what is behind these price hikes.
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jenna: bringing home the bacon is getting more expensive, literally. we'll look at a dramatic rise in food prices and what to expect in the weeks ahead. a neighbor telling the court in the oscar pistorius trial, she heard screams the night of the killing and ronald reagan fought for a program to deliver america news and views inside the iron curtain. that program is now facing cuts
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just as the west grows more concerned about russia moving into eastern europe. jon: fox news alert now and new details on malaysia airlines flight 370. malaysia's prime minister now says new data indicates that the plane took a southern flight path that it went down somewhere in the southern indian ocean far from land. this as crews follow up on more sightings of possible debris in the water. doug following all of this from washington. that same information was first provided to the families of the passengers and those on board, right? >> that's right. it should help to provide some closure for the families. in a televised statement, prime minister told reporters that new information that was compiled by the u.k. company, that provided much of the satellite data in the first place has now determined that the flight flew in a southwesterly direction and it's last position was smack dab in the middle of the south indian ocean. >> for them, the past few weeks
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have been heartbreaking. i know this news must be hard. i urge the media to respect their privacy and allow them the space they need at this very difficult time. >> that statement effectively means there can be no survivors after over two weeks in the remote, stormy, frigid waters. search efforts are now intensifying with the discovery of new debris today. crew on board the australian p 3 reported seeing two pieces of debris, a gray or green circular object and an orange rectangular object. >> i caution, again, mr. acting deputy speaker, that we don't know whether any of these objects are from mh 370.
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>> keep in mind that area of the indian ocean is also known for the plentiful debris, often clumped together by strong currents. jon: the u.s. navy, we understand, is sending some equipment to the area that should help locate the black boxes if they can again actively link that debris to the plane, right? >> yes. u.s. pacific command has located the black pox locator in the region. it is towed from a ship and it is able to locate pretty precisely the pinger on any downed navy or commercial aircraft, down to a maximum depth of 20,000 feet anywhere in the world. because the pinger is attached to the aircraft's black box, it could lead searchers to the vital piece of equipment and shed light on what caused this plane to go down. that should have a bit more than two weeks of battery life left. jon: all right. doug, keeping an eye on that live from washington. thank you. jenna: breakfast and just about every other meal is costing more
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these days. experts blame a combination of droughts and other shortages around the world. and so right now the bureau of labor statistics says food prices in the west are up 1 1/2% in the past year. nationally ground beef rose nearly 4% in a month. you might notice that in your burgers. sharpest rise in 11 years. fruits are costing more. price of appear ems rose more than 3% as well as oranges and eggs jumps more than 2% between january and february. and the prices can continue to climb. dagen is with the fox business network and i mean, we have to just here. i think what really got us on our team is the headline that bacon prices are surging along with everything else, though. >> it really is across the board. and i can't tell you that it's going to get any better because food prices are still expected to go up about 3 1/2% in the next year. but let's just talk about bacon because that's a really good indication of what's been going on in this country. a pound of bacon is 13% more expensive than it was a year ago, about $5.50 for that pound.
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what happened there is there's a deadly disease that's infecting the hog population in this country but those herds were already thin because of the drought back in 2012 when grain prices shot up and farmers basically reduced the sizes of their hog population. the same thing has happened with cattle in this country. it's one of the reasons you see cattle prices going up but orange juice prices going up. coffee prices are up because of drought and then you're also going to see vegetable and fruit prices continue to rise because of the drought out in california right now. jenna: all our favorite food groups. i'll take the good news. what have you got? >> these price increases, and this is the type of inflation we feel as americans more than anything else next to gasoline prices. but this inflation is self correcting because what happens is the price of like cattle goes up and hogs go up and the
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farmers then increase the supply because they want to take advantage of these higher prices so they're going to raise more hogs and raise more beef and grow more oranges potentially and eventually it will be self correcting. you have month supply and then prices come down. jenna: that's one of the questions. if we see the food prices going up at the grocery store, it's one thing if you can afford it, if your income is also going up but are we seeing americans' incomes match some of the increases we're seeing in food price snz >> not in some areas. one thing people try to do is try to make choices but because you're seeing such broad based food inflation in many areas, people can't just easily do that but another thing, a lot of these food companies are hesitant to pass along food price increases to the consumer because there's so much competition between all of these various companies and i can tell you, i don't think the price of like a drip cup of starbucks is going to go up. starbucks did lock in its own
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coffee prices for at least a year. we're happy about that. jenna: you're giving me more motivation. do i get a blt or scrambled eggs? i'll go with the blt knowing that it could be more expensive in the future. >> i would always opt for the blt. jenna: what am i talking about? >> you can get the lt but that's kind of boring. jenna: i'll go with it along with avocado. jon: chocolate. you need to ask her about chocolate. >> we have eggs, orange juice, bacon, hamburgers. we didn't get into chocolate. room for next time. jon: dramatic new testimony in the oscar pistorius murder trial. what one neighbor says she heard the night his girlfriend was shot to death. plus we'll take a look into a report the prosecutors might be gearing up to call the blade runner's own father to testify against him. >> it was moments after the shots, i heard a lady screaming.
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terrified, terrified screaming. we moved to the bigger balcony as we have a better view from there. the screaming at that stage discontinued. it didn't stop during that period that we were walking up. i said to my husband, it sounds to me as if there's a family murder. nice morning, scott? aye, or...a mornin' of tiny voices crying out, "feed us -- we've awakened from our long winter's nap and we're peckish to the point of starvin'"!!
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the morning his girlfriend was shot to death. the neighbors saying she also heard a man screaming followed by a series of gunshots and then silence. this new testimony comes amid reports the state could wrap up its case by calling pistorius' own father as a witness for the prosecution. dan is a former prosecutor who joins us. jonna is a criminal defense attorney. why would they call his father, the prosecution? >> yeah. the last person you want to have to call when you're prosecuting somebody is the defendant's mother or father. if they can't say anything good about you, nobody can. but my guess would be they're trying to attack pistorius' -- not his credibility but his character. they're trying to show he's kind of this mean, rough and tumble guy who is always playing with guns and has a short fuse. that's the only reason to suspect they want to call the father. jon: why would you put a father
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on the stand? >> maybe he saw the interactions within the relationship. we saw testimony today that there were prior conflicts between oscar pistorius and his girlfriend. we heard about text messages where she was saying he was controlling and jealous and angry. maybe the father saw some of this. we'll have to see as the testimony comes out. jon: so you are of the opinion that the prosecution has not proved its case here. >> absolutely. i think the prosecution is going to need some sort of perry mason moment in order to get a murder conviction. they just haven't shown that oscar pistorius was acting with the malice in his heart or that he actually knew it was his girlfriend in that bathroom behind that shut door. they haven't gone there. the evidence doesn't support murder. jon: do you think they've built their case? >> i do. you have four shots into a locked bathroom door with his girlfriend inside. there's to reason for him not to check the bedroom to see if she was in there. why do you fire into a bathroom four times unless you have the intent to kill?
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there's no reason to believe there was an intruder because we heard witnesses say there were screams from a woman in a shot. it's an overwhelming case of murder here. jon: they had scheduled this thing to be wrapped up by now. march 20 was the original end date. now they say they're going to the middle of may. sometimes less is more in the courtroom. is there a possibility here the prosecution is overplaying this case? >> it could be. in fact, the prosecution was supposed to call over 100 witnesses and ended up calling just a fraction of those. jon: because this thing is moving at such a slow pace. >> but also oddly, they're going to take a week long break next month for some reason. that's going to drag it out, too. prosecution has -- if they don't have some sort of substantial evidence before they rest, which they're planning to do, i think, this week, there's there's a motion to dismiss. i don't know. >> you have him firing four times in a locked bathroom door
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with his girlfriend inside. she was staying over. why would he not think she was in the bathroom? untilled he think anyone else was in there? we have a text message today that there was jealous behavior on his part. i think it's a clear case of murder. jon: she texted apparently to him that she said i was not flirting with my friend's husband. i mean, that is exhibit a, isn't it? so many men get jealous when they see their girlfriend at a party and they think she's making eyes at some other guy. >> excellent point and so many men don't then murder their girlfriend after that. so i think that's a very large leap to go from being a jealous boyfriend to being a murderer. jon: but it's almost testimony from beyond the grave, isn't it? >> right. it's certainly relevant to the intent to kill. he shows he has an anger, this jealousy that he was upset with her on many occasions, that she was complaining about it. she said he was, quote, picking on her so it's part of the
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intent to prove, part of proving the intent to kill and it's very powerful testimony. jon: the prosecution -- i'm sorry, the defense has been trying to pick apart the stories of some of these prosecution witnesses and some of them, in fact, have been forced to say, yes, i thought i saw a guy there but, in fact, i didn't, or i thought i heard such and such a thing but in fact, it was the other way around. when you do that, there's no jury here. it's just a judge but it does affect the credibility of these witnesses, doesn't it? >> absolutely and that's part of the job of the defense is to do that. they are doing a good job at it, especially of the witness who testified she heard a woman screaming opposed to a man screaming. so i think that her testimony is not the highlight that the prosecution wanted it to be. jon: at the same time, if you ask me to recount what i did this morning, i would have trouble getting the exact time line straight. >> that's the problem with all witness testimony. witnesses don't always remember things as well as they think and you have to put it all together
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and think, is there another reasonable conclusion other than he intended to kill his girlfriend? he did kill her which was the overwhelming weight of the evidence did show, i would say. jon: a trial supposed to be over by now will go another six or seven weeks, so we're told. thank you both. jenna: the long search for malaysia airlines flight 370 may be one step closer to coming to an end. the latest sightings of what could be wreckage in the indian ocean where malaysia's prime minister says the plane did go down. and ronald reagan took a hard stand against the soviet union and advocated for american radio stations broadcasting behind the iron curtain at the height of the cold war. now some of those very communication tools may be in jeopardy just as new fears about russia emerge in that region. a story you haven't heard much about next. co: i've always found you don't know you need a hotel room
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jon: knocks news alert. malaysia's prime minister somberly announcing that flight 370 ended in the southern indian ocean. the prime minister made a somber announcement today saying a new analysis of satellite data indicates that the plane carrying 239 people went down in the indian ocean far from land west of australia. the prime minister also saying that the families of all of the victims have been informed. a white house spokesman says the president expressed his sympathies to the chinese families impacted by the missing jet. jenna: growing threat from russia and crieses in the ukraine will dominate the president's european trip this week and while the president will try to rally support from allies, there are new questions about how we're investing in promoting ideals around the world, especially now we're learning about possible budget cuts to radio-free europe which
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was a vital lifeline of communication to people living behind the iron curtain. it had key supporters, including ronald reagan. >> my name is ronald reagan. last year the contributions of 16 million americans to the crusade for freedom made possible the world freedom bell, symbol of hope and freedom to the communist dominated people of eastern europe and built this powerful 135,000 watt free europe transmit engineer eastern germany. this station appears with the truth, bringing a message of hope to millions trapped behind the iron curtain. grateful letters from listeners smuggled past the secret policeg informers by name. jenna: the spokesman for the former ambassadors to the u.n., that clip was from 1955, radio-free europe is still very much operating. before we get into the details
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of the budget cuts, why do you think it's important still today? >> well, i think we just have seen president vladmir putin cutting the free media throughout crimea and it's clear he's on the offense. eastern europeans are very nervous. we've seen reports that those in the balkans are extremely nervous about the growing threat from russia and from others. we need to have information parity. there needs to be a way we can ensure that the debate is really saturating the public so that the publics within eastern europe are getting both sides of the argument. we need to have a debate about free market, the human rights issues that are extremely important to the public there. if we only allow the russians to have one side of that conversation, then we're going to find in five to 10 years that we're having a lot more problems. jenna: interesting to note that radio is still very relevant today because it cannot be tracked the same way that the
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internet is or shut down in the same way the internet is. for example, if you're logging on to facebook and you're part of an opposition, the government can kind of find out who you are but no one can really find out who is listening to the radio so one of the areas they're looking to cut is the balkans. it's a proposal from the broadcasting group, the broadcasting board of governors to congress so it's their proposal because they say they're pulling back from that part of the world and we want to invest in places like africa and china, the pivots to the east. what do you think the risk is of that? >> first of all, i think the broadcasting board of governors is right to think about how do we communicate going forward and there's been a healthy debate for several years how to do that. i think it's crucial right now to recognize that what's going on in russia and ukraine specifically and a growing threat from really a one sided media throughout the eastern europe that we recognize that we
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cannot be cutting radio-free europe funding, ball can services. we need to double down, actually. instead of cutting, we should have surge funding. we need to have money throughout eastern europe to have the healthy debate. it's going to be a down payment, if you will, for saving money later because we will have a healthy debate and i think when we have that healthy debate, the people throughout eastern europe will choose democracy, capitalism and liberty when they're for all sides. jenna: rick, gret to see you as always. thank you so much. >> thanks. jon: a major piece of a confounding puzzle might be in place. malaysian prime minister saying the missing jetliner went down in the southern indian ocean far from land. ships and planes now from several nations are looking for
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the wreckage of malaysian airlines flight 370 and the black boxes that will hold the key to learning why it went down.
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jenna: malaysia prime minister said that investigators believe that flight 370 crashed into the indian ocean. jon: the prime minister says it is not possible that any of the 239 people on board survived. the malaysian jetliner disappeared more than two weeks ago. latest on the multi national search for a debris field, chinese and australian airports spotting objects in the search zone. navy ship is now trying to reach them to see if they could be part of the plane. that ship could arrive as early as tonight. crews searching a dangerous area of the indian ocean more than 1200 miles off the coast of western australia. joining us now, robert mark, fox news aviation analyst. robert, i suppose it was no
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surprise when the malaysian prime minister made that announcement today. my question is why? what is this new information that would have led them to determine now more than two weeks later that the plane went down there in the southern indian ocean? >> well, i know everybody has been very skeptical of the malaysian government and the way they've handled this investigation. my guess is that this probably had some relatively recent conversations with either the australians or the chinese that make them feel pretty certain that they're on to something here. jon: the satellite pings, the engines were communicating information about how they were function to go satellites flying overhead. is it possible they may have -- well, the malaysian prime minister said they've used a technique never used before to determine where the plane was. is it possible that somehow through satellites' triangulation they were able to
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make that determination? >> it's possible. the satellites that are up there right now that we were talking about with these pings for the last couple of weeks are an older generation satellite. the precise capabilities i can't speak to. they may have figured something out. i am just hoping beyond hope they've confirmed this with people that know a little bit more about this than the malaysians have in the past. jon: you are far more experienced and capable pilot than i am but i think as piles we both know these things are very rare and the fact that a 777 goes down tells you that something incredibly unusual happened, whether it was human caused, pilot suicide, pilot encompass united nations or something. but we could be looking at an event that brought down this airliner that has never happened before. couldn't we? >> absolutely and i think what we found after the air france accident in 2009, these were
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situations that only came to light after we found the black boxes and everyone was horrified to find out that the pilots essentially lost control of the airplane. and i think what we're going to find here, hopefully, if we do find the black boxes and we only have a couple of weeks to do that is that it's going to be a ground breaking event. how in the world does an airplane that took off northbound end up 3,000 miles in almost the opposite direction? jon: what about a catastrophic fire? there has been the point made that the cargo hold was carrying a large shipment of lithium ion batteries and lithium ion batteries have caused fire in cargo holds before. one of them brought down a 747 over the united arab emirates three years ago. >> that's very true and the lithium ion battery issue has been a big one for me. i know we've been trying to find
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out precisely what the quantity of the batteries were or was that was on the airplane and so far we haven't come up with any facts. but i certainly wouldn't rule that out. jon: they also say in that part of the world, it's not unusual to have mislabelled cargo or cargo that is, in essence, being smuggled so there could have been items on board that cargo manifest that maybe the airline didn't even know about. that's always possible. we knew about security breaches in malaysia within a day of this airplane disappearing with those two fellows getting on the airplane with stolen passports. so again, we know also about the fact that the first officer was known to let people into the cockpit while the airplane is in flight. all of these things alone are just not good signs. they may not be related to this accident but they do kind of
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point to a somewhat lack security policy. jon: and a lot of people were scratching their heads about what happened here. talk about the black boxes. one of the the concerns that i have is that perhaps they might not get a lot of information off of them just because they do loop over. they record over their previously recorded data after a certain period of time. don't they? >> well, that's true. the cockpit voice recorder does. it only holds 120 minutes' worth of information but again, that's just from the microphones in the cockpit. jon: so if the pilots were incapacitated the last two hours of the flight, we're not going to hear anything. >> no. absolutely not. but the data recorders in terms of the systems, what was the -- how were the engines doing, what was the state of pressurization, the electrical system, all that will be intact if they find that
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box. jon: commercial airline pilot and our fox news aviation analyst, robert, thank you. >> you're welcome. jenna: ukrainian base in crimea today as russia strengthens the grip on the region. now ukraine is pulling troops out of the peninsula as president bam wam and other world leaders meet in europe to discuss the crisis after russian nexted the black sea peninsula. greg is streaming live with the very latest. >> yeah. russian takeover of crimea appears to be wrapping up but they might be ready to move elsewhere. today here in kiev, ukrainian military officials issued evacuation orders for all troops and family members there. this after that marine base was overrun by russian troops this morning. armored vehicles and helicopters were involved. shots were fired, two injured. dozens of officers retrained and at least two officers were taken away. late breaking account we're
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getting, one of the last remaining ships under ukrainian control is being seized by the russians. three other officers remain in custody. the folks here in kiev and ukraine are working very closely with what president obama says and does in europe. they welcome the tone of a white house statement which said there has to be consequences, that if russia escalates, there was a need to impose greater costs. the escalation a lot of people here are thinking is that full bore invasion of eastern ukraine by russian troops. officials here at nato, even the white house again are raising that possibility for something like 20,000 russian soldiers in full battle gear just on the other side of that border. ukrainian military is beefing up and digging in, in that area again. russian president vladmir putin for the last several days has been saying he has no intentions of invading ukraine but he had been saying that in the past. people are not taking him at his word. back to you.
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jenna: it's a story we're going to continue to watch and you ton cover. thank you. jon: and this. closing arguments underway now in the trial of the osama bin laden's son-in-law. he's accused of conspireing to kill americans and aiding al qaeda. he is pleading not guilty in his terror trial that's now playing out in a new york city federal courtroom. jonathan is live outside of that courthouse. he has the latest for us. >> prosecutors have been summing up their case this morning in their closing arguments saying that he did indeed conspire to kill americans. they have painted him as a cheap messenger for osama bin laden, a man who made video and audio recordings that recruited young men to come to training camps in afghanistan and train to fight and kill americans. pointing at him as he was in the
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courtroom, one of the prosecutors said with this man, al qaeda took its private propaganda global and they said, those videos and those audio recordings are enough alone to make him guilty of each of the crimes he has charged with. now, later today we will hear from solomon's defense team. they're likely to say he was nothing more than a messenger. they will back up what he himself said on the witness stand, that he never actually took part in any plotting, any planning of any attacks to kill americans. the jury, jon, could get this case as early as this afternoon. remember, this is a vital case for the government because this is the most senior alleged al qaeda member ever to be tried in a civilian court. jon: we will certainly keep an eye on that courthouse and i'm sure you'll be there to let us know what happens. thank you. jenna: latest on the trial of
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the son-in-law of osama bin laden, we want to mention a new way to honor victims of 9/11. a new museum will open on may 21 following a six-day dedication period for family members and first responders. planners originallimented the museum to open in 2011 marking 10 years after the attack but construction delays, super storm sandy, a whole host of issues pushed the opening back. museum will include two main exhibitions at the world trade center site. jon: a major oil spill shut down one of the world's busiest shipping lanes as ships are left stranded in port. and russian tanks rolling over the fence, over the walls, taking another crimean base. can the united states and our allies stop russia from taking more territory in eastern europe or is it simply too late? we asked people a question,
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jenna: ukraine redreets from the region today, pulling troops from bases there waiting for redeploy many as russia strengthens it is force as long ukraine's eastern border. now president obama is in europe joining other world leaders, in part trying to find a way to cool tensions with the kremlin. critics say we should be even harder on russian president vladmir putin. >> he goes to bed at night thinking of peter the great and he wakes up thinking of stalin. we need to understand who he is and what he wants. it may not fit with what we believe of 291st century but that's not who he is and that's not what he's trying to accomplish. jenna: joining me is the director of the keenan institute at the wood row wilson center. he's the goi to talk to about this. great to have you on the program. >> happy to be with you. jenna: one of the things you say you're watching the next few
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days is unintended consequences. what do you mean by that? >> what i mean is, you know, vladmir putin has one vision. we may not agree with it but he has an idea of what he can accomplish, what is under his control, what it means when he puts 20,000 troops on the border with eastern ukraine. it may not mean he plans an invasion. unintended consequences, though, are the things that he inspires on the ground. when he convinces local separatist leaders that moscow has their back, they may do things but the russians are not directly ordering but they may create consequences that actually bring both russia and ukraine much closer to the brink of war. we've seen a little bit of that very recently when you have -- finally have casualties on the ground in crimea. you poo you tell that much weaponry, that much armor, that many motivated people in the same small area, accidents are going to happen and no matter how effective a grand strategist vladmir putin is, he'll not have the consequences. jenna: we've also heard russia talk about the native russian
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speakers in other countries as well and wanting to support them. so do you think the same unintended consequences that you laid out in the ukraine could actually spill over to some other countries as well, even though russia may not be at the border? >> there's a very ironic risk here, actually, for vladmir putin's grand strategy. he may think he can limit this confrontation to some easy, low cost territorial gains in ukraine. i think what he'll quickly find is separatist nationalist leaders throughout the former soviet space, so in places like maldova to the west of ukraine but has a breakaway territory dominated by russian speakers, they may see this as their opportunity. they have vladmir putin over a barrel. he set the precedent that they will back up separatists. now is the time when they can declare independence, started shooting, provoke fighting on the ground and the russians have more or less got to come to their assistance. this could come in places that will get the e.u. much more
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ramped up and be much more serious consequences for russia if there's further action of this kind. jenna: what places would those be? >> baltics, for example. you have substantial russian speaking populations where there was an unspoken understanding between the russians and the balts after 1991. again, you're talking about territorial annexation of a european country fundamentally changing the map of europe. i think a lot of local ethnic russian leaders will say, hey, all bets are off. if we had a dream of making up with mother russia again, now is the time to pursue it. once the european political, geo graphic and security order begins to break down, the entire economic order on which we have built our prosperity is called into question. we cannot reliably maintain a global trading system in which
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industry are not security. jenna: how do we prevent that from happen sng >> i think we need really, really serious consequences and that goes far beyond the limited sanctions that target individuals are naming and shaming, finger wagging approach. i think we need a serious, broad based punishment for the russian economy and we have to acknowledge that's going to impose costs on the united states, going to cozy costs on the european partners and allies. we have to be very clear we're prepared to pay those costs. otherwise, vladmir putin is not going to think we have any credibility when we threaten things. right now he doesn't think we have any credibility in our claim that there will be costs. jenna: we had a guest last week that said it's too little, too late. it would be incredibly difficult to come back now and appear tougher. do you think it's too late to do anything? >> it's increasingly getting too late. i think the area where it's not necessarily too late is forward looking, explaining that, look, if you have any designs on eastern ukraine, if this nen --
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phenomenon, if any of this continues and if russia continues to support the breakdown of basic security and political order on the european continent, then the following costs will come. being very explicit that we know there will be costs to the united states side. there will be costs to the european side. we're entirely ready to pay the costs. this is the way you really hurt the russian economy but it's going to hurt us, too. jenna: i know you've worked on bipartisan initiatives to help with russia. an interesting piece in the "new york times" mapped out through several presidents who have tried to repair this relationship with vladmir putin and have failed thus far. some suggest we're losing ground. things we have repaired we're never going to get back again. can you give us an idea how you feel about that? about what relationship we
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should truly desire with russia right now? >> look. you know, we're not going to become vladmir putin's best friend or trusted confidant. it is far too late for that. if we had an opportunity, it was a decade ago and it's gone and it's behind us. that doesn't mean we can't work with russians. plenty of issues, their interests are not much different than ours. they're prepared to do deals. they don't want to be in a state of war with the united states, with nato, with the wider global, economic trading system that they depend on for their own prosperity and that means they're going to be prepared to cut deals but in any business relationship, you don't get by. you do not succeed if the other side doesn't have confidence that you are good for your word. so when we say there will be costs, when we threaten there will be consequences, i think those have to be real and severe and have to believe that our pain threshold, ourly to rabs is high enough we're willing to impose toes -- those costs.
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jenna: thank you very much. jon: the united states could be giving away control over the internet but one former president said letting other countries oversee domain names, that, he says, would be a mistake for america. also a major oil spill causing more than just shipping problems. the impact on the people and the wildlife there. coming up. >> this is a significant spill. we have been alert to and looking for reports, not just from our own surveillance teams but from the public of oil wildlife. announcer: where can an investor be a name and not a number? scotade. ron: i'm never alone with scottrade. i can always call or stop by my local office. they're nearby and ready to help. so when i have questions, i can talk to someone who knows exactly how i trade.
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jon: fox news alert. la police department tells fox news at about 8 chl.
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-- 8:05, officers went to a dispute. lapd reports they have one officer down as a result of that response. lapd has no other information at this time. we don't know the condition of the officer. the only report is that the officer is down. whether that's a fatality or wound, we don't know yet. we're working to get more information on this shooting in the hollywood hills above los angeles. more information as we get it. jenna: and from california to texas now, cleanup crews are scrambling to protect one of the shore lines there after a massive oil spill near houston this weekend. big news. lauren has more on this. >> you know, this is a thick, tar-like oil and it's causing huge problems. crews removed the remaining contents from the damaged barge onto other vessels but the concern now, the potential impact on the environment and
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the economy. nearly 168,000 gallons of the crude leaked into the texas waters after the barge carrying nearly a million gallons of oil collided with the ship in the narrow and very busy houston channel. as of yesterday afternoon the oil could be detected 12 miles off shore into the gulf of mexico. i the migration season and if the oil seeps into the sand and affects the food supply, it could impact wildlife for decades. >> what's important here is that we remove the oil from the environment as quickly as we can and protect our resources here in the bay. >> three cruise ships are among scores of vessels trapped in the waters off texas banned from entering the six mile containment area as crews work non stop so clean up the spill. it's also had an effect on local businesses like this ship shop. no supplies could come in. now, the channel handles about 80 vessels a day.
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as of right now officials are trying to determine when at least a partial ship traffic can resume. jenna: hopefully soon. thank you. jon: it's been something of a media blackout on a controversial plan that could affect how you log on to the web. obama administration considering a move that would have the u.s. give up oversight of the domain registry of the internet. currently controlled by the u.s. commerce department but it could be handed over to an international agency. former president bill clinton criticizing the plan last week at a student conference in arizona calling it a bad idea any way you cut it. listen. >> the united states has been, by far, the country most committed to keeping the internet free and open and uninterrupted. a lot of these people who say they want multi stake holder control over domain names and internet access, what they really do is want the ability to
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shut down inconvenient exchanges within their own countries. jon: joining us is jim pinkerton, contributing writer for the american conservative area and also with us, alan colmes, host of the alan colmes show. both are fox news contributors. as you well know, it was basically the united states that invented the internet with or without the help of al gore. so why give it up? why give it up to some international body? hasn't the internet done just fine on its own? >> i agree. it was done, called arc net, dropped by the defense department with u.s. tax dollars and it should be in the hands of a representative democracy like the united states. once we let it go, the plan was in place since 1998 to eventually cede power to some international body. we don't know what it is, what it consists of, it's vague what the plans would be going forward.
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it's a bad idea. jon: international corporation for assigned names and numbers, i don't know that anybody in this country is really aware that all of this is going on. bill clinton is pretty fired up about it but mainstream media is not covering it. sdm there was a terrific piece in which was said that conservatives, wake up. this is like the pannal canal treat my in the 1970's and how reagan in 1975 and 1976 and 1977 took on the democrats and republicans said that the panama canal treaty is a stupid idea. it's the exact same situation now and republicans, with a few exceptions have yet to wake up to realize that when even alan colmes thinks it's a bad idea to give away the internet to iran and china and russia and the plo, then it ought to be a bad
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idea for republicans to sit there and do nothing. they should be out there leading the charge against this and i think it would be a great political issue for them. jon: so we have this on record, you're in opposition to this being made by the obama administration to give up control over domain names on the internet. >> i would like to clear up the misconception that i agree with obama on everything. on my radio show i disa gr a ga- disagree a lot. jon: what are the dangers, jim? >> look. every other time the u.n. or some other international body gets ahold of something, whether it's human rights where they're saying the united states, iran or china or a global warming or arms control or any number of other environmental and social regulation that we wind up being controlled by, you know, some
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uganda or some country in the third world somewhere that writes our policy for it. it's crazy. it speaks to the desire of some in the elite, especially on the democratic side to give power from the united states to the world in some gesture of good faith through the global community. and we're seeing the fruits of it right here. >> we were a growing so beautifully but now you want to make it global about democrats to be the ones that cede power. this started in 1998, this idea of moving ican to some international body. jon: who was president in 1998? >> this is not a left-right issue to me. if you want to make it that way, it's fine. jon: you dguys talk after we sa goodbye. jenna: after weeks of anguish for the families of 239 families, they learn today from the malaysian government new information says it went down in the indian ocean and no one survived. but the plane still remains
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missing and there are so many questions. where does the search go next?
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♪ ♪ ♪ jenna: malaysia's prime minister announcing new satellite data indicates flight 370 went down in the southern i understand i can't understand ocean and no one survived but the families of passengers and crew still are not getting close you're today. the wreckage of the plane has not been found. this could be a big break.
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after australian and chinese planes spotted more large debris in the water. here is the latest. william? >> as you said until now families held out hope. however thin. now the prime minister concluding a plane crashed with no survivors. in the last 24 hours, two sightings of debris in the water. chinese plane seeing a large white square object, some 72 feet long, hours later an australian plane locating a gray or green circular object, shape and color consistent with the metal air frame, also an orange rectangular object like an emergency life raft or passenger slide. a navy ship is racing to the scene to recover the objects, to inspect them and get photos to bowing and malaysian air to confirm they're flight 370 or not. >> vessel covers such a small area compared to an aircraft but when the aircraft finds stuff, the only way to prove it is
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boots on the ground or guys on the boat, on the water. that's the only way. >> now comes an equally hard part, finding the point of impact. today u.s. navy sent this underwater microphone designed to listen for the ping of a black box and the flight data recorder. searchers will also bring in an under cover robot to scan the ocean floor for debris. it's a drone that moves like a lawn mower up and down the ocean floor looking for metal. robot can only cover the area about the size of manhattan in a given day but it's a device that did find air france debris two years ago after that crash, a big problem is that they're dealing now with a modelling of the ocean currents and winds over 17 days to determine where that debris field actually is. these items could be on the surface. the items will help tell the story about how the plane crashed, if there's any evidence of a fire but all eyes right now
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are on the surface looking for the haystack before they can find the needle. back to you. jenna: thank you very much. we're waiting for any update as crews search for malaysia airlines flight 370 now believed lost in the indian ocean. former t.s.a. official said it's looking more like this was a criminal act. he joins us next. also the stock market has been striking off a lot of bad news lately. how are stocks trading today? a live report next. across america, people are taking charge of
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south. the prime minister said at the statement that he made that they have been able to eliminate that northern track. he said they've used a process never used before in a crash investigation to determine that the flight went down somewhere on that southern track. they believe that it came to an end, went into the water off the coast of australia in the southern indian ocean. there is, he said, no chance for survivors. they are now, the u.s. navy is now bringing in towed pinger locator. that's what it looks like. it's a very small device, towed by this cable behind a navy ship or actually in this case, it will most likely be a commercial ship but it will be towed behind a ship at a fairly low rate of speed, maybe one to five knots an hour and go looking for black boxes if they can, in fact, locate some debris. they have said that one of the things that was spotted was a
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circular object, green in color. take a look at the remnants of asiana crash 214 that went down in san francisco over the summer. look at the tail section here. that crash, a 777, just like -- very much like the malaysian air flight, if you take a look at another angle of it, right there at the tail cone, the tail snapped off, the vertical and horizontal stabilizer snapped off but there you have a circular structure, green in color. is that what we've seen bobbing in the indian ocean? we don't know. but there are indications, at least, that some of the debris that they are starting to find may have come from that 777. joining me is a former t.s.a. deputy director. tom, this new technology that -- or this technology that the prime minister has said has never been used before to
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determine where that plane went down, do you have any idea what that is? >> well, it's something that has been developed out of the air france crash in the atlantic several years ago. every time there is an incident like this, we learn something, we develop some new technology that should help. and i think that the malaysians have benefitted from a very solid global response from satellite pictures, from multiple snagses, from a very generous response of resources, from the australians, americans and others to help make the progress to where we can say that this happened in the southern indian ocean. but i think the malaysians still have a great deal to answer for. for instance, the security at the airport is known not to be very good and while the malaysians want to clear for
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criminal purposes the crew and the passengers, i think that there are still questions about grund crew, fuelers and others and possibly even stowaways that may have had access to the aircraft before it took off. jon: you say we've learned something and this technology may have been developed from things we learned in the air france 447 crash in 2009. i want to take a look at another recent crash. didn't get a lot of attention in this country because it didn't happen here but it's the crash of united parcel service flight -- i believe it was flight six. this is all that's left of a gigantic boeing 747, 400 series, relatively new aircraft that went down in the united arab emirates back in september of 2010. it was later determined that they had a fire in the cargo hold on the main deck, fire caused probably, authorities said, by lithium ion batteries. we know the malaysian air flight also had lithium ion batteries
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on board, a large shipment in the cargo hold and here's part of the report from the national transportation safety board. the flight had taken off, they were 22 minutes in the flight when the flight crew members indicated to air traffic control that they experienced smoke in the cockpit and were unable to see their radios. they turned that flight around, they tried to get it back on e the. it crashed nine miles sort of the airport, 23 minutes after that first report of smoke in the cockpit. is there the possibility that something like that could have brought down malaysian air? >> there is and that would need to be evaluated but i think it needs to be evaluated with the security aspects of what went into that cargo hold in terms of who tendered cargo, where was it headed? what do we know about the people putting things in that cargo hold? here in the u.s., we have rules against flying of lithium ion
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batteries. why were the malaysians allowing that to happen and did they know these batteries were there? these are important questions that the malaysians have to stand up and answer, i think. jon: are these questions going to be answered to your satisfaction by the information on the black boxes? >> well, it's possible. we'll have to see what we can learn from them when we find them. but they certainly -- they certainly could hold clues. i don't want to get to a catastrophic incident just yet because i'm still concerned about the fact that the transponder was manually turned off. that continues to tell me that there is a human element here beyond some catastrophic, mechanical failure, at least that we continue to need to keep on the table and evaluate. jenn jon: i've mentioned this before but if you have an emergency, first you're supposed to aif yat, then you're supposed to
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navigate and the third thing is you're supposed to communicate. communication, talking to the ground, it is last on the list if you've got an emergency in the air. first you're supposed to fly the airplane, secondly you're supposed to steer the airplane. so i suppose it's possible that if these pilots were forced into a situation with a catastrophic failure of systems and they're throwing breakers and snapping systems off to try to isolate the problem, thee had time to talk to anybody on the ground. >> well, that's certainly a possibility but here's what comes to my mind. we're dealing with a very advanced airplane here where the avionics experts will tell us it's an aircraft that will nearly fly itself. so i have a little hard time accepting that an aircraft with that kind of advanced technology aboard was subject to some sudden emergency where you couldn't even let the ground know that there was a problem you were encountering and trying
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to manage. jon: are you fairly confident they will be able to find the black box that they'll be able to pull that sled in that we showed, the t.p.l. and find the black boxes? >> the sled ups chances of finding it but i'm not prepared to say that they are going to find it, at least not in the short-term. jon: formerly with the transportation and security administration, tom, thank you. >> thank you, jon. jon: there's a revolutionary way to watch tv, how a big deal between two corporate giants could change your viewing habits. we'll have this story and all the other news out of wall street coming up.
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jenna: wall street is starting off the week in the red but stocks are still trading near all-time highs. despite the ongoing crisis with russia and concern that china's economy may be slowing down,
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joel even is with us from the fox business network about what's happening now >> we were in the green this morning and now we're firmly in the red. we are looking at basically a crisis in crimea and so a lot of investors are feeling the pressures so stocks down in the red. it's weighing on investors plus we're getting bad economic data out of china and the euro zone and a few american companies actually do major basis in the crimea region but investors are concerned about the political and economic fallout. jenna: what's going on with apple and the deal with comcast? we're hearing something about it today. >> you see red across the board but apple is very much in the green today. they are rallying. ed world's most valuable company is actually in talks with comcast right now to do a potential deal and they might revolutionize the way you watch tv. streaming service would link apple and top box with comcast
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cable giving apple precious direct access to home television according to the "wall street journal." talks which are very much in early stages right now would allow users to stream live and on demand programming plus digital programming stored in the cloud. they would get special treatment to bypass web traffic that often gets backed up when other people in your neighborhood are using lots of bandwidth. cable tv operator saw their first full year drop in sub skripgs last week ever and that's according to snlk. rising prices, bad customer service and more online options like netflix. some say cut the cord. right now apple is up almost 1% doing quite nicely as everything else is in the red. jenna: very interesting. jon: if i can't stream a movie, i should go bang on my neighbor's door and tell them to knock it off? >> we'll see if they'll be able to strike a deal. two very big companies we're
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talking about. jenna: thank you. jon: we've been telling you about that horrible mudslide in washington state. an update on a very dangerous search for any more survivors. @
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fox news alert. the deadly mud slide in washington state. we have an idea now how big of an area we talked about. the pictures showed it all but we are getting new numbers right now according to the local law enforcement the number of dead is at eight. the number of land parcels is 112 land parcels of those 49 have a structure which could include homes. the river that is backing up. confirming seven homes are
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flooded and more in regarding is expected and the water is stricking through the slide and a creation of a new river channel is observed in the area. there are five down stream refers to watch for debris. to know that so many different land parcels are affected and the question of those missing. >> in the early going, they heard the voices of those trapped. those voices have all gone silent and they are asking the local respond ors asking for folks to call in if they are unaccounted for. they have no firm grasp on how many were affected. >> the mud was like quicksand and rescuers had a hard time
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getting there. >> much of the mountain side slid down and on the structures belong. what a tragedy. >> thank you, so you tomorrow. >> thank you, gena and john. malaysia officials said no one survived and the flight 370 ended in the indian ocean. >>im bill hemmer. >> they spotted debris near australia, capping an unprecedented two- week search involving 26 countries. >> now finding the black box is the high priority. >> and national security correspondent jennifer griffin joins us live from washington. >> reporter: it was the second time we heard from the malaysian prime minister in the past 17 days.

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