how our free market capitalist republic works and tell them the names of both of your u.s. senators at the very least. i'll see you "on the fives." have a great weekend, everybody. on the second day of searching a new area of the southern indian ocean, australian officials say ships have scooped up what they describe as objects from the ocean. three weeks after it vanished, could we finally be closing in on the fate of flight 370. we'll have the latest developments for uf. after sinking $125 million into its system to sign people up for obamacare, the state of maryland throws in the towel on its glitch-ridden website. we'll have a live report on what the state plans to do next. it's a potential game changer for college football players in northwestern's bid to unionize. appeals are ahead but could it change the way the ncaa operates. sportscasters and fox news contributor jim gray is here with that.

all that plus a hole host of country music singers uniting behind israel with the help of our own governor mike huckabee. america's news headquarters starts now. the very latest on the search for a plane, but first a week after one of the worst mud slides in u.s. history, families are coming to grips with the realization that some victims may never be found. in washington state search crews continue to dig through the mountain of mud one shovel at a time. we're live on site in arlington, washington. what's the latest there? >> reporter: well, you know, the weather has been consistently bad overnight and we're expecting to get an inch of rain over the weekend. that will make conditions all the more terrible, rescue workers describing the scene of the site in oso as miserable. it's actually just getting worse and we think that that will actually add to the conditions on the surface of the mud slide which is what the rescue workers have to wade through.

the latest video that we've got from the national guard just shows how difficult the job is. some rescue workers wading through mud as deep as four or five feet and officials now saying that it is actually dangerous to the rescue crews there. >> we noticed some slipping in the area and we took precautions by removing some of the workers in that area, our geologist told us it was okay, and they are back at the scene. >> reporter: and the rescue workers that are there are starting to suffer from hypothermia. it's about 46 degrees at the moment, but apparently feels like 38 degrees and, of course, moving around in that mud just really saps their body heat making the job really difficult. the mud so thick it's actually like wading through adhesive is how one rescue worker has described it. they're suffering fatigue and stress. there was one other body, one new body found yesterday, but because of the weather it was difficult to actually extract the body from there.

we now know that 26 bodies have been found at the site. the official death toll, though, remains at 17 and that's because it takes the medical examiner's office time to identify these bodies and once they have officially identified them, that's when they get added to the body count. we understand there will be two key developments today, an emergency access road will open linking the town of arlington to darington on the east side. it doesn't go directly across 530. runs parallel to the river along there. and what that will do is allow overland vehicles to get in and help remove some of the debris and programs create better access to where some of the victims suspected to be buried. also today, a moment of silence will be held at 10:37 precisely this morning. that was when the first stage of the slide hit the community of oso and moments later at 10:41 there will be another moment of silence we understand when the

second phase went through and that was the stage of the mud slide that really wyched out the large community. 90 people still missing. back to you, doug. >> dominick, in arlington, the state of washington, i should say, thank you very much for that. officials in california are now inspecting bridges, dams and rail tracks for damage after a magnitude 5.1 earthquake struck near los angeles last night. it caused a rock slide and some minor injuries but no major damage. it's the second quake, though, in two weeks. the u.s. geological society seismologist at caltech said there could be even larger earthquakes in the next few days. southern california has not suffered a devastating earthquake since 1994 when a magnitude 6.7 quake killed several dozen people and caused $25 billion in damage. the usgs also reports at least five aftershocks ra s ranging f magnitudes 2.7 to 3.6.

crews are still searching a new part of the indian ocean for malaysia flight 370 but after day two there is still no confirmed sighting. an official with the maritime safety authority said objections were scooped up by ships but as of yet none have been confirmed to be related to the missing airplane. david piper is now joining us live from bangkok, thailand, with the latest on that now, david? >> reporter: hi, doug. yes, those search planes did spot some objects in the southern indian ocean today. but as you said, no confirmation that any of them are debris from the missing plane. now, the chinese planes which reported the sighting said the objects were red, white and orange. buoys were dropped to help ships try and find the objects. two chinese ships are currently in the search area with more on the way. more bad weather is on the way also. the search area has moved to a new location northeast of the earlier one after satellite data suggested the plane to have been traveling faster thus burning

more fuel. the new location near perth allows planes to search longer over the zone. earlier in the week the malaysian authorities said the new satellite data showed there was no chance of any anybody surviving, the plane must have run out of fuel and crashed in the indian ocean. today, though, the acting transport minister seemed to contradict that by suggesting there was still hope. >> they said that no matter how remote, hope against hope, we will continue to find survivors. and i have said that from the beginning. that no matter how remote i'm always hoping against hope and i'm praying, and as they are as also in any remote manner has always been to find more sourve survivors. >> reporter: this has, of

course, given fresh hope to the families of the passengers and crew, but nothing, doug, at the moment to substantiate it. back to you. >> david, thank you very much for that. with just two days now left until the obamacare enrollment deadline maryland is announcing its ditching its state-based online exchange. plagued with technical problems from the start, state officials say they plan to use technology from connecticut's now. let's get more. molly? >> maryland's democratic governor martin o'malley signaled that some announcement would be coming on the $125 million state obamacare exchange and now the word is maryland is going to toss aside its own troubled system and all that money and look to use software from connecticut. the official now announcement likely will come next tuesday, now, that's one day after what was supposed to be the firm sign-up deadline march 31st for obamacare. but the obama administration is sayi inamericans can have a few more weeks to sign up.

here's what health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius said about that yesterday. >> we now have 6 million folks as of a couple of days ago who have enrolled in a plan. i think we will have significantly more by the time that open enrollment ends and that's new health security for millions of americans. >> but republicans dispute those numbers because they don't differentiate between those who sign up and those who have actually made a first payment for new health insurance. one republican congressman says the true sign-up numbers may be a lot lower. >> we discovered a portal with which they communicate to insurance companies since december which is where they insist insurance companies provide them with the number of those when have enrolled and those who have paid as well and so they have if not a precise, a very accurate picture, of who actually has paid. it could be as much as 20% off of these gross numbers that they're giving to the press.

>> house republican speaker john boehner tweaked the white house, boehner says is this a, quote, joke. the white house press secretary jay carney said it's an effort to give people who are trying to sign up but may not meet the march 31st deadline enough time to do so. doug? >> thank you, molly. more than 6 million people have now signed up as you heard from obamacare, a surge of enrollments ahead of the march 31st deadline. but it comes as the obama administration announced yet another extension for those who won't make the deadline, a move that drew republican ridicule. let's bring in now jay angoff he's a former health and human services official. thanks very much for coming in. good to see you. >> thank you. >> what do you make of this surge? >> i think it's a good thing. it's a good thing for people who can now have -- who have been signing up in droves obviously the last ct with this extension they'll have more time to sign up and it's also a good thing for insurance

companies because the people who sign up at the end are likely to be in pretty good health. the people who are in bad health that really needed insurance are the people who signed up at the beginning, so this flood of people at the end and with the extension with more people i think that will do good things for the risk pool and allow rates to be lower. >> there are a lot of republicans and we just heard it in molly's piece there who are skeptical of this 6 million figure. they flat-out don't believe it. i want you to listen to congresswoman marsha blackburn from tennessee and what she had to say about it recently -- >> i think they are lying to us about who has paid, who has not paid, who is getting subsidies, how much they keep pushing off. they don't want to give us the numbers. it's, like, all of these delays. they weren't going to have any delays. this was ready to go. then one after another and now we're at 38 delays. >> pretty incendiary accusations and basically saying the

administration is lying. >> and she could take the high road and yet she's not. there are high road arguments to made on the other side and that's not one. 6 million people have signed up through the exchanges and in addition there are people who have signed up off the exchanges so the number that really that have signed up because of obamacare is going to be substantially more than 6 million. >> there are some insurers who are upset over this. they say that they can't calculate their premiums for next year until they know how many people sign up and more importantly, perhaps, with how many people have paid. >> the insurance industry has to be a little ambivalent. because on the one hand it's good for them if there's more time and more people in good health sign up. on the other hand, there has to be some end to it. hhs cannot be delaying things, this deadline forever. and it's true hhs has delayed a lot of things and sometimes the statutory authority for those delays is questionable. but this is delay that there is statutory authority for and that does make sense. >> well, i'm confused about that, because we've heard

administration officials saying that this delay is only to mid-april. but to my understanding there's nothing in the language that says there's an end point to the delay, it appears to be open-ended and because it's on the honor system you don't know who is telling the truth or not. >> very fair statement. there is no finite number. when they announced the delay, they didn't say it was going to be until a certain date. and that's possible that they will extend it more. they have left themselves a little bit of wiggle room. >> jay, really appreciate you being here. thank you for your time. >> good to be here. fair and balanced to an outspoken critic of the president's signature legislation, let's bring in michael tanner from the cato institute. what's on the top of mind after you heard what jay just had to say? >> well, i think we should really be skeptical of some of the numbers like the 6 million. we know that about 20% of those 6 million have not actually paid. they're a little bit like people who put something in the cart for amazon.com but never actually checked out. we don't know how many of them will pay in the end. and about 3% to 5% more paid

their first payment and then stopped paying for their insurance, so you've got to cut them out. in addition to that we don't know how many were uninsured previously. there's estimates all over the place suggesting maybe as many as three-quarters of the people who sign up for the exchanges maybe as few as a quarter of them were people who had insurance, lost their insurance because it didn't satisfy the obamacare criteria and then were forced to sign up through the exchanges in order to get reinsured, so this is not necessarily people who are newly insured. it may be people who simply carrying their own insurance and switching from private insurance through the exchange-based insurance. >> in a telephone conversation i had with you earlier this week, you sort of made a connection to this being very similar, this extension being very similar, to people buying auto insurance after they've had a car accident. can you explain that? >> well, the danger is that because you are on sort of an honor system and you can go back and say, well, i meant to sign up for insurance or i tried to sign up for insurance and

couldn't do it, so now i'm going to be covered. someone who gets sick, let's say, in the middle of april, can then sign up for insurance, claim that they were enrolled -- or trying to enroll back in march and still be covered by insurance. that's sort of like being able to crack your car up and then get auto insurance that covers that accident. >> i'm going to get to something real quickly here. last wednesday when all the attention on obamacare was focused on the hobby lobby case in the supreme court there was another court case going on in d.c. at the d.c. circuit court of appeals, we were hearing arguments about another lawsuit against obamacare, a lawsuit that hinges on four simple words in the affordable care act, those four words are established by state. the plaintiffs are saying basically in this case that consumers are eligible for subsidies, quote, established by a state. well, a lot of the states don't have exchanges. the plaintiffs are saying that this thing could potentially be invalidated because 34 states don't have their own exchanges?

>> that's right. in the plain statutory language of the law says that subsidies are only available on exchanges that are set up by a state, not on the federally run exchanges that are in some 30-odd states. now, the obama administration says that was just a drafting error, that they intended to offer the subsidies on the federal exchanges and they've gone ahead and done this. because the subsidies trigger things like the employer mandate and other taxes, several businesses have sued claiming that they -- the obama administration can't just impose subsidies and impose taxes unilaterally. this is now in the circuit court and the judges in the court were very skeptical of the obama administration's argument. >> i wish we had more time to discuss it. this is not the final case. the court will apparently rule by this summer but there is an appeals process available, correct? >> yes, this will end up in the supreme court almost certainly. >> michael tanner from the cato institute, good to see you. uniting with israel, mike

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oare college athletes employees and should they be paid to play? that's the question after northwestern football players tebttively won the rights to unionize. right now they are digging in for a lengthy court battle that could reshape the multimillion dollar sports business. jim gray is a sportscaster and fox news contributor. he joins us now. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> they ruled that the football players are indeed employees and they have the legal right to unionize. how much is this ruling set in stone at this point? >> well, i guess until it's appealed and until the adjudication of the appeal would

take place, identi guess it's s. however, how do you implement it? they say they're student athletes, in many incidents they are athlete students, so this i think will cause tremendous reform in the ncaa. it only applies right now to private institutions, public institutions, the nlrb doesn't have jurisdiction over it, so it's only this case right here right now, but i think it will force change across the board. >> this is interesting because you use that term student athlete versus athlete student. and there are a lot of people who suggest that college athletes at least at the top tier, the bigtime football programs, are kind of a sham, that this is not amateur athletic in any sense of the term or should not be. what are your thoughts about that? >> well, it's just like anybody who goes to school. a lot of these athletes who go to school have dreams of playing in the nfl or the nba. it's a one in a million shot but that's where they are placing their hopes and dreams and that's where they're concentrating and spending their time. and it is a fallacy because the

television networks are making billions of dollars off this and they're spending billions in rights. the agents are involved. the coaches, they get to touch it, the sneaker companies, they're involved. and everybody's profiteering and you're saying the only people who can't touch it are the people who are providing all of this income and generating all of this revenue and that's the players. the ncaa rules are just, you know, so omnipresent and they don't allow for any stipends. it's remembidiculous. so, there's a long, long road here. and it's fraught with peril. are they also going to be paying taxes? every employee i know has to pay federal and state taxes. because of that there are so many issues and this is opening a whole pandora's box. >> a lot of people contend, you know, that these, again,

top-tier athletes in college really are not students in any sense of the word. we've seen lots of anecdotal evidence of really dumbed-down courses. you look at the ncaa basketball play-offs right now and you just imagine the kind of training and the time invested for these players to be participating in this postseason tournament. they have no time for school work. >> well, they do have time. and they do create time and they do have extra periods and tutors and so on and so forth. i get your point. however, the fact of the matter is, is that this system is broken and it needs to be reformed and this will be the first step. but for allowing them to unionize, no, i don't think that's the way to go. i just don't think that that is going to be -- what happens when a lot of these private schools decide to drop the program when they decide that the money coming in is outweighing the benefits are outweighed because they don't want to have to pay all of these players. the players should have better health care. they should have better benefits. they should be able to have

things long term if they do get injured and they lose a career potentially going forward, but they shouldn't be paid to the degree where we're now creating a minor league for the professional institutions, the nba and the nfl, and so forth. and also what happens with all of the funding that the facilities get, all of the funding that goes actually into the faculty and other areas of the university? a lot of this will be lost if it now goes to all of these players. a revamping of the system is necessary. unionizing i really think that we're a long way from that and i think by the time that this is appealed and adjudicated, everybody and better heads will come together. there's also, doug, another court case which is taking place right now by a former player at ucla, a basketball player, who is suing the ncaa. and that court case is being heard. good chance they'll win and that's for the rights for the colleges to sell these jerseys and use the name in perpetuity of all these players. north carolina should not own

michael jordan's name forever. >> all right, jim, really appreciate your opinion, and as you say this is really the opening volley. a lot more to come on this. thanks very much for your time. new jersey governor chris christie said the road closure scandal involving his office will not affect his decision on whether or not to run for president. christy was cleared by an internal review of any wrongdoing. speaking with megan kelly in an exclusive cable interview christie said he's learned a lot and has learned to ask more questions. >> how does this relate in your mind to what we've seen with president obama? >> well, i think a few things. first is whether you're president of the united states or whether you are governor of a large state like i am, it's a fiction to believe we know everything that's going on. but secondly, i think, it's how you respond after you find out something's being done in your name that you believe is inconsistent with your values. >> do you see a contrast between how you handled your situation and the president handled those? >> i don't know the particular circumstances of the president's relationship with the people that you talk about. but i think you're judged much more by the american people and

for me by the people of new jersey by how you react to those circumstances and whether you're decisive and direct or whether you look like you can't make a decision. >> part two of megan's interview with governor chris christie will air monday night, 9:00 p.m. eastern. tensions between the west and russia ratchet up as news comes that the number of russian troops massed on ukraine's eastern border may be a lot higher than first thought. we'll have a live report from kiev with the latest on that. and find out how governor huckabee and some country music legends are you've fighting to support israel. >> it's just an incredible experience and what a -- what a gift to be able to give back to israel. it's given us so much.

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john kerry, he was on a flight home from saudi arabia today when he decided to head to paris instead. the state department says kerry plans to meet with russian foreign minister sergey lavrov there tomorrow or on monday to discuss the very tense situation in ukraine. we've got details now live from kiev. greg? >> reporter: folks here in kiev, doug, are watching these diplomatic moves very carefully. for them it's literally a matter of life or death. ukraine military over the past couple of days has been getting ready for a possible russian invasion. this following the annexation by russia of crimea. a top security official just told me a short time ago that he believes there's something, like, 88,000 russian troops now in position around ukraine's borders. it's widely thought that they would overrun a smaller and a weaker ukrainian army which is why comments from russian president putin in a call last night with president obama that he is willing to examine a

diplomatic solution to the crisis had been well received here. still, the folks here are not buying yet assurances coming from russia that they won't attack. here is what ukrainian prime minister arseniy yatsenyuk had to say to me -- >> translator: it's still a huge possibility that russia's military could cross the border and grab ukrainian territory. >> reporter: meanwhile, more talk about russia coming from former ukrainian prime minister timashenko, she said vladimir putin is enemy number one for ukraine and she said it during a campaign rally in her run for president here. it could be another motivation behind a moscow attack, again, heading off that attack as you note, doug, the main goal of a

meeting between secretary state kerry and russian foreign minister lavrov planned in the coming days, folks here in kiev, again, watching this very closely. back to you. and here now to discuss what's going on in ukraine and this apparent overture by mr. putin to be in some sort of dialogue with the united states is allen colton, the author, host of the alan colmes show and also tammy bruce, host of "the tammy bruce show" and a fox news contributor. good to have you here. >> ed henry last night said that this phone call between the two heads of state was initiated by mr. putin. do you read anything into that at all? tammy, let's start with you. >> well, look, i mean, putin has nothing to lose. he's in the catbird seat. anything he wants, he's going to get. any negotiation at this point, look, you don't go into a negotiation or request one unless you know what it is you want and it's obvious that putin can ask for anything. i would suggest with all of those troops putin's in a

position now where he not only could ask for a reversal of the small sanctions that we've already done but could also ask for no aid to go to ukraine. he could ask for the moon. so, if he's very worried, we've got, look, our billion aid package that we'll vote on on tuesday is nothing compared to the $18 billion that the imf is suggesting and even more from the eu, but none of that has been implemented yet. he could effectively demand that we help him isolate ukraine and considering the failure of obama's approach, of kerry's approach at this point, we're now scrambling to effectively give putin what he wants and i'm afraid that that's going to harm ukraine at this point. >> alan the phone call initialiate initiated by mr. putin. >> i see it definitely than tammy. the fact that putin negotiated this could mean he's feeling the heat. we've slowly ramped up pressure against russia, getting them out of the g-8. economic sanctions, there's more to come and he knows that so

putin i think would like to stop the pressure on him. he also doesn't want to be isolated from the rest of the world. he has economic interests in the west. he doesn't want assets frozen. i don't believe he called out of strentd but because of our strength and the fact that the entire western hemisphere is opposing what he's doing, he knows he's got to make a deal. >> i want to shift gears to an entirely different story as you know, the irs issue came up again today this week, i should say, in congress, saying it would take years to release a series of e-mails from the irs official who has claimed the fifth, tammy, what do you make of that? >> well, look, i'd love to what the irs for me to say it will take years to get the audit materials you want. no one would put up with that. it's a sign that it's seen as a paper tiger. it's clearly an indication that the irs and no governmental agency is taking anything that the republicans in the house do seriously. they've seen that nothing's

happened to lois lerner and the gal gall to say this will take years, no one in their right mind would put up with it. depending on how darrell issa responds to this, the grassroot are seeing him as presenting everyone with a dog and pony show. these are very serious issues obviously, ultimately possible by crimes. >> the irs said their reasoning for withholding the e-mails there might be confidential taxpayer information. it's illegal to release that stuff. what do you make of that? >> i mean, the irony of that, of course, is just mind-boggling. the issue here is that they were sending private information to left wing think tanks that they were, you know, put -- stopping the ability for them to move forward to get their 501-c3

status, claiming they don't want the privacy to be revealed is absurd. >> couldn't they keep these things confidential by releasing them to certain members or staffers on the committee? >> they may not be confidential enough. they may not trust the committee will keep it confidential. i issa has run a dishonest information. he wouldn't release all the information until he was forced to. there was a self-professed conservative republican who started the investigation, he started looking at these right wing groups. he admitted he was the one who started it. it started with him. he said it was not political, but because new paradigms had to be set for the formation of all these tea party groups. that is the story. there's no scandal here. darrell issa has been looking for a scandal since he took over the oversight committee and he's wasting a lot of time and taxpayer money doing it. >> alan colmes said not a

smidgen of scandal. >> if there's no scandal what is this with the fifth amendment with lois learner. >> i thought tammy had the last word. we'll continue some other time. this isn't going anywhere. it isn't over yet. thank you, both. coming up next north korea thumbs its nose at the west with a missile launcher, several of them, in fact. is the u.s. even paying attention to this? author and policy expert gaar gordening chang is coming up next. [ female announcer hands were made for playing.

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north korea appears to be up to its old tricks on wednesday pyongyang test fired two medium-range ballistic missiles in clear violation of u.n. resolutions, the first time this class of rocket has been fired in five years and it comes on the heels of a nuclear security meeting between the u.s., japan and south korea. here to talk about it is gordon chang, author of "nuclear showdown north korea takes on the world." gordon, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> this is not coincidental that the timing of this launch occurred at the time that it did. >> no, certainly it didn't. north korea wanted to express displeasure on the ongoing u.s./south korea military drills. they always take place this time of year so north korea will always do something provocative now but also there was the trilateral meeting that you

referred to and, of course, the north koreans have to test this stuff because these are the weapons that they would use in the first hours of a strike against japan and south korea. >> these are nuclear capable missiles, is that correct? >> we think that they are. they are basically 625 miles, 900 miles. you could put a nuke on top of them. they have yet to develop the nuclear warhead but nonetheless, they are very close to doing that. yes, they will be nuclear capable by the time that they need them. >> it's interesting i understand if you scrape the paint off these missiles, they are called nodong missiles, the exact same missiles that iran is using as well? >> yes, scrach t wrs, scrape th it's a shaabab 3 missile. they've a joint missile development program and basically iran funds north korea's research. north korea sells those missiles, and so what's in

iran's inventory as well as pakistan's inventory are north korean missiles. >> you have written that north korea is now slipped the bonds, slipped out of the control of china. is that a new development? and what is the risk inherent in that? >> yeah, we've seen this since about 2011. there are a number of reasons for this to occur, but essentially the chinese right now are on the outside looking in. and that means washington's policy which was based on the chine chinese reining in the north koreans is really no longer going to work because the chinese don't have the ability to deal with the north koreans like we hoped that they would. >> very, very disturbing and we're kind of taking our eyes off that ball with so many other major crises across the world, gordon chang, really appreciate your time. good to see you, sir. >> thank you. for more than 40 years now governor mike huckabee has been taking christians on a journey to the holy land in israel. why is this trip so important? we'll put the question to him

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for 41 years now governor mike huckabee has been taking fellow christians on a journey to the holy land in israel. the tour doesn't go beyond the western wall anymore because he says as a christian it's kind of dangerous there and israel is really the only place in the region that he feels safe. well, this year country and bluegrass stars ricky skaggs and larry gatlin went along and earlier today i sat down with all three of them. well, this is a real treat for me. i get to interview three of my favorite people in three different cities all at the same time. larry gatlin lives in springfield, missouri, getting ready for a show in branson, missouri, ricky skaggs who i have known since basically high school. you didn't know me back then but i used to follow you at places like -- i saw you play with the country gentlemen and, of course, the governor, all here to talk about this great trip that trip that you took to israel and something that you guys do, governor, been doing for 41 years, is that right?

>> yeah, first trip was 1973. i fell in love with the country and the people and i've been going back ever since. i lost track of how many times. and larry and ricky and i were part of a group that i took just last month. we just got back, and it was an amazing trip and once again a reminder of what a tremendous ally we have in israel and how every american ought to understand the value of our relationship with this very free and lovely country. >> you have said, governor, that going back to with this very fre and lovely country. >> you said going back to israel is like going back to home. what do you mean by that? >> it's one of the only places on earth i think an american can go where a person who loves liberty can go. the moment you get there, you feel like you've been there before. in part because i think of the spiritual roots we have. all of us who ever read the bible feel like we are walking in the land of the pages we lived. israel is so much like america in an organic way in that it

escaped from an incredible tyranny created to give people religious and every other kind of freedom. so you see that pioneer spirit in the people. you really can identify with it. >> larry, was this your first trip to the holy land? >> i went with governor huckabee last year. my wife janice and i went. it was our first trip. the bible is, i wanted to say technicolor, cinemascope. if you did it from a historical standpoint the trip would have been well worth it. to know you're standing there on the mount of olives in the garden tomb to see where the dead sea scrolls were found, then as governor huck puts it all together with today's geopolitical context, i mean it was a fascinating trip. my life will never be the same.

i told people if you take one trip abroad, you've been dreaming about the rest of your life go to israel with mike huckabee and the huckabee tour. your life will be enriched forever. i'm grateful to the gov. i can't wait till next february to go back. >> i saw a really cool picture of new the holy land donating blood. as i'm thinking about your history being a really religious guy playing a lot of gospel music, i can think of so many gospel songs that made reference to the blood, blood of the lamb or whatever you might have there. to me, it was just so rochester with symbolism. i'm sure it was for you, too. >> it real why i was. i was asked by an orthodox jewish friend if i would consider giving blood for israel. soon as he said that, he said think about it. i said i don't have to think about it. i said i want to do this.

jesus gave his blood for me. how could i refuse his brethren? i said count me in. soon as i get there, that's the first place i'll go. it was incredible. i would encourage everybody that's going to do that, one pint of blood we give can save up to three lives. it's just an incredible experience. what a gift to be able to give back to israel. it's given us so much. >> did you get a chance to play music there and how did it go over? >> we did. we played at the garden tomb, gethsemane, on the sea of galilee. it was great. we had a built-in audience with 282 people with governor huck. there are a lot of artists boycotting israel, a lot of musicians. >> the bgs movement. >> yes.

i really want to try, if i can, to put something together where we can have artists from america that will stand with israel and come over and play music and show our solidarity for israel and not a boycott thing but to be there playing music and bless the state of israel would be a wonderful thing. >> governor, we are running out of time. i know you have real problems with the administration's policy towards israel in this day and age. tell me what the basis of that is quickly. what's on the show for tonight? >> the basic problem is we are treating israel as if they are doing something wrong by trying to provide liberty and a safe haven for jewish people around the world, which allows them to come back and to locate. we have put more pressure on israel to stop building bedrooms for their families than we put on iran to stop building bomb. that's my basic beef. you ask about the show, we have a special guest. i'm going to ask him to stand with me. he's an old buddy of ricky

skaggs and larry gatling. charlie daniels is going to be with us tonight on the show. we are excited about having charlie. >> been a long time since we jammed together. >> that's right. >> he spoke at earl scruggs' funeral last year. i was struck by his words there. it meant a lot to me. thank you for doing that. that family really respects you, too. thanks for doing what you guys did. >> good to see you, doug. thanks. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition inharge™. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today?

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